RE: Resolved was Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to the speaker when moved away from my ear?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard,

 

Thanks for that logical explanation as to why the phone speaker automatic 
switch is under VoiceOver. I didn't realize how easy it was for the sighted to 
switch to the speaker. I know it's really easy for them to butt call someone 
since calls can be generated with one touch so it only makes sense.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolved was Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to 
the speaker when moved away from my ear?

 

Hi Alan,

 

It is a Voiceover/accessibility feature because if Voiceover is not running the 
phone never automatically switches, this feature does not exist for sighted 
users because for them it’s super easy to simply tap the speaker button whereas 
a blind person has to find it first and if audio was only coming from the 
earpiece you have to sort of hold your phone close enough to hear but not so 
close that the screen doesn’t react to your touch and all that. I also 
sometimes wish this was more consistent.

All in all I still prefer the automatic switching even if from time to time it 
happens when you don’t want it to happen.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 3:10 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
Subject: Resolved was Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to the 
speaker when moved away from my ear?

 

Hello again List,

 

I found my own answer. It's under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, 
Auto select speaker in call. I've now turned this off. I guess I had trouble 
finding it because this doesn't seem like an accessibility setting to me since 
everyone talks on the phone whether using VoiceOver or not and might want to 
tweak whether the call comes through the speaker or not.

 

Alan

 

Hi List,

 

I'm having a devil of a time finding the setting to turn off causing the phone 
to send audio through its main speaker when moved away from the ear. When on a 
phone call, my phone keeps switching between the main speaker and the ear 
speaker even though I'm holding it next to my ear causing me to lose a lot of 
the spoken words.

 

I'm running iOS 13.2 on an iPhone 8.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Resolved was Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to the speaker when moved away from my ear?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

It is a Voiceover/accessibility feature because if Voiceover is not running the 
phone never automatically switches, this feature does not exist for sighted 
users because for them it’s super easy to simply tap the speaker button whereas 
a blind person has to find it first and if audio was only coming from the 
earpiece you have to sort of hold your phone close enough to hear but not so 
close that the screen doesn’t react to your touch and all that. I also 
sometimes wish this was more consistent.
All in all I still prefer the automatic switching even if from time to time it 
happens when you don’t want it to happen.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 3:10 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
Subject: Resolved was Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to the 
speaker when moved away from my ear?

Hello again List,

I found my own answer. It's under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, 
Auto select speaker in call. I've now turned this off. I guess I had trouble 
finding it because this doesn't seem like an accessibility setting to me since 
everyone talks on the phone whether using VoiceOver or not and might want to 
tweak whether the call comes through the speaker or not.

Alan

Hi List,

I'm having a devil of a time finding the setting to turn off causing the phone 
to send audio through its main speaker when moved away from the ear. When on a 
phone call, my phone keeps switching between the main speaker and the ear 
speaker even though I'm holding it next to my ear causing me to lose a lot of 
the spoken words.

I'm running iOS 13.2 on an iPhone 8.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Alan Lemly
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RE: Battery drain

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hmm, that one I am not sure about, I never even bothered changing my wallpaper.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery drain

For resetting network settings, it was my understanding that your wallpaper 
choice is deleted, not that this would concern a lot of us, only, when I reset 
network settings, I change my wallpaper, because I want to make sure that it is 
still wallpapers versus the dynamic wallpaper, which uses more battery than 
still wallpaper.



> On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:59 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> When you go to about phone to change your name after a network reset, you 
> might be prompted to update carrier settings. Be sure to do this as it will 
> give you updated settings from your carrier.
> 
>> On 10/30/2019 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Judy,
>> 
>> You go to Settings > General > Reset and then look for Reset Network 
>> Settings.
>> Once you double tap on it, you will get a prompt asking you to confirm if 
>> you want to do this, double tap Yes.
>> Then your iPhone restarts and when it gets back to the lock screen, enter 
>> your PIN if you have one.
>> There are only two thing you have to do after a reset network settings:
>> 1. If your iPhone is called something like Judy's iPhone, you have to go to 
>> Settings > General > About (at the very top). Double tap on it, the first 
>> item is the phone's name and during a reset network settings the name 
>> defaults back to simply "iPhone". This is a normal edit field, you can 
>> double tap on it, go to the beginning of the line and put "Judy's" in front 
>> of "iPhone" or call it whatever you want.
>> 2. You will also be disconnected from your WiFi, go to Settings > WiFi, find 
>> your network and double tap on it, you then have to enter your WiFi password 
>> and then double tap on "Join" at the bottom right of the keyboard.
>> That's it, after that you are done and I have seen this little procedure 
>> make a huge difference from battery life to other issues. There will be no 
>> change in anything else, all your apps will be there where you put them, you 
>> will loose no data or anything like that.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Judy Pryor
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery drain
>> 
>> Sieghard I have never done a network
>>  Reset.  How do you do it and do you have to put a lot of data back.
>> 
>> 
>> Judy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 30 Oct 2019, at 16:31, lenron brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My battery has been draining a lot lately, but my battery health is good 
>>> though.
>>> 
 On 10/30/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 Do a Reset Network Settings and see if that helps.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Candy Lowe
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery drain
 
 Judy,
 I am having a similar problem with my iPhone 8.  It does not seem 
 to be holding a charge, but, when I check the battery health 
 everything shows up as fine.  I have been in contact with apple 
 accessibility, and they are supposed to call me back this morning.  
 I will let you know if I learn anything.
 
 Candy
 
 Sent from my iPhone 8
 
>> On Oct 30, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10 
> percent yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple 
> support who tested everything and could find nothing wrong.  They 
> have booked me into my local Apple approved shop for further 
> investigation.  Has anyone got anythoughts as to why my SE is doing this.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to the speaker when moved away from my ear?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

I believe you already had your answer, but I once again want to point out the 
usefulness of the search field in Settings.
If  you type “speaker” in that search field the first result is what you want 
and if you swipe past it tells you exactly where to find it.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 2:50 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
Subject: Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to the speaker when 
moved away from my ear?

Hi List,

I'm having a devil of a time finding the setting to turn off causing the phone 
to send audio through its main speaker when moved away from the ear. When on a 
phone call, my phone keeps switching between the main speaker and the ear 
speaker even though I'm holding it next to my ear causing me to lose a lot of 
the spoken words.

I'm running iOS 13.2 on an iPhone 8.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Alan Lemly
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RE: Annoying Bug With the "Next Keyboard" Button for Text Entry in iOS 13.2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The easiest way to switch keyboards is to double tap and  hold, then drag your 
finger up to the keyboard you want and let go.
I could swear that I remember from the June keynote when iOS 13 was introduced  
that there was supposed to be a separate button to engage the emoji keyboard in 
iOS 13. I would really welcome this, I could simply use the keyboard button to 
switch between my two keyboards, English and German, and use the dedicated 
emoji button if I wanted to grab an emoji. I also think there should be a way 
to insert an emoji and have the keyboard revert back to whatever you were using 
before without having to do so manually.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying Bug With the "Next Keyboard" Button for Text Entry in iOS 
13.2

A friend of mine using iPhone told me that her iPhone has the same problem. She 
finds it hard to switch among the three keyboards she has.

Regards,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of David 
Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Annoying Bug With the "Next Keyboard" Button for Text Entry in iOS 13.2


Hello.

On the positive side I am thrilled that Flicktype's functionality has been 
restored to VoiceOver users as a third party keyboard in iOS 13.2. However, 
there is an annoying issue on my iPhone 8 which I have discovered that I wanted 
to mention. I plan to email Apple Accessibility about this but if others are 
affected by this issue I'd like to encourage them to do so as well.

When I bring up a text entry field with the standard English keyboard the "next 
keyboard" button reports something like "next keyboard, emoji." Double tapping 
this button switches to the emoji keyboard, as expected. I then hear "next 
keyboard, Flicktype" but double tapping the button does not switch to the 
Flicktype keyboard as it should and is it reliably did in iOS 12. Instead, it 
stays on the emoji keyboard. As a workaround if I double tap and hold the 
button it does seem to switch over to using Flicktype. I'm wondering if other 
Flicktype users are able to confirm this?




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Re: Battery drain

[Kathy Brandt]

For resetting network settings, it was my understanding that your wallpaper 
choice is deleted, not that this would concern a lot of us, only, when I reset 
network settings, I change my wallpaper, because I want to make sure that it is 
still wallpapers versus the dynamic wallpaper, which uses more battery than 
still wallpaper.



> On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:59 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> When you go to about phone to change your name after a network reset, you 
> might be prompted to update carrier settings. Be sure to do this as it will 
> give you updated settings from your carrier.
> 
>> On 10/30/2019 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Judy,
>> 
>> You go to Settings > General > Reset and then look for Reset Network 
>> Settings.
>> Once you double tap on it, you will get a prompt asking you to confirm if 
>> you want to do this, double tap Yes.
>> Then your iPhone restarts and when it gets back to the lock screen, enter 
>> your PIN if you have one.
>> There are only two thing you have to do after a reset network settings:
>> 1. If your iPhone is called something like Judy's iPhone, you have to go to 
>> Settings > General > About (at the very top). Double tap on it, the first 
>> item is the phone's name and during a reset network settings the name 
>> defaults back to simply "iPhone". This is a normal edit field, you can 
>> double tap on it, go to the beginning of the line and put "Judy's" in front 
>> of "iPhone" or call it whatever you want.
>> 2. You will also be disconnected from your WiFi, go to Settings > WiFi, find 
>> your network and double tap on it, you then have to enter your WiFi password 
>> and then double tap on "Join" at the bottom right of the keyboard.
>> That's it, after that you are done and I have seen this little procedure 
>> make a huge difference from battery life to other issues. There will be no 
>> change in anything else, all your apps will be there where you put them, you 
>> will loose no data or anything like that.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Judy 
>> Pryor
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery drain
>> 
>> Sieghard I have never done a network
>>  Reset.  How do you do it and do you have to put a lot of data back.
>> 
>> 
>> Judy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 30 Oct 2019, at 16:31, lenron brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My battery has been draining a lot lately, but my battery health is good 
>>> though.
>>> 
 On 10/30/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 Do a Reset Network Settings and see if that helps.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
 Of Candy Lowe
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery drain
 
 Judy,
 I am having a similar problem with my iPhone 8.  It does not seem to
 be holding a charge, but, when I check the battery health everything
 shows up as fine.  I have been in contact with apple accessibility,
 and they are supposed to call me back this morning.  I will let you
 know if I learn anything.
 
 Candy
 
 Sent from my iPhone 8
 
>> On Oct 30, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10
> percent yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple
> support who tested everything and could find nothing wrong.  They
> have booked me into my local Apple approved shop for further
> investigation.  Has anyone got anythoughts as to why my SE is doing this.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Dual sym card capability?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I believe the dual SIM support started last year with the iPhone XS and XS Max, 
not sure if the XR has it also. However, there are not two SIM trays, the one 
has to be a so-called e-SIM and I am not sure which carriers in Canada support 
e-SIM although the Apple Watch uses e-SIM and it is supported by all 3 major 
carriers, Telus, Bell and Rogers, but not yet carriers like Koodo (not sure 
about Fido and Virgin).
.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shermeen 
Khan
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:15 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Dual sym card capability?

Hi all,

Has anyone tried and had any success with using two sym cards (or
micro-sims) in one phone? I seem to recall this being a feature in the iPhone 
11 onward, but didn't know if anyone had actually tried it.
It's a feature I have high hopes for, as I'd prefer to use one device for both 
work and personal use, while maintaining different phone numbers and such.

Thanks,
Shermeen

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RE: Another question Re: 13.2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

Your method works just fine, but I still find it easier to simply open the App 
Store, then swipe right once to the “My Account” button and double tap on it.
After that touch the screen somewhere in the middle just above the home button 
and you easily and quickly find the Updates section.
>From there I agree, a 3-finger swipe I s a good idea, then you can either tap 
>the “Install All” button or swipe through the updates, read what’s new and tap 
>individual update buttons.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another question Re: 13.2

Do a 1 finger triple tap on the app store icon, and a context menu will come up 
near the bottom of the screen. Flick through that with one finger to updates 
and double tap.
Also, you may want to do a three finger swipe down once you are in there to 
refresh the screen to get the most recent updates.
HTH,



Richard
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On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
I wanted to check for app updates, and the App Store seems to have changed.
Where do I find them?

Thanks.

Karen P

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Re: Battery drain

[Gordon]

When you go to about phone to change your name after a network reset, 
you might be prompted to update carrier settings. Be sure to do this as 
it will give you updated settings from your carrier.


On 10/30/2019 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Judy,

You go to Settings > General > Reset and then look for Reset Network Settings.
Once you double tap on it, you will get a prompt asking you to confirm if you 
want to do this, double tap Yes.
Then your iPhone restarts and when it gets back to the lock screen, enter your 
PIN if you have one.
There are only two thing you have to do after a reset network settings:
1. If your iPhone is called something like Judy's iPhone, you have to go to Settings > General > About (at 
the very top). Double tap on it, the first item is the phone's name and during a reset network settings the name 
defaults back to simply "iPhone". This is a normal edit field, you can double tap on it, go to the 
beginning of the line and put "Judy's" in front of "iPhone" or call it whatever you want.
2. You will also be disconnected from your WiFi, go to Settings > WiFi, find your network 
and double tap on it, you then have to enter your WiFi password and then double tap on 
"Join" at the bottom right of the keyboard.
That's it, after that you are done and I have seen this little procedure make a 
huge difference from battery life to other issues. There will be no change in 
anything else, all your apps will be there where you put them, you will loose 
no data or anything like that.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Judy 
Pryor
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery drain

Sieghard I have never done a network
  Reset.  How do you do it and do you have to put a lot of data back.


Judy
Sent from my iPhone


On 30 Oct 2019, at 16:31, lenron brown  wrote:

My battery has been draining a lot lately, but my battery health is good though.


On 10/30/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Do a Reset Network Settings and see if that helps.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Candy Lowe
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery drain

Judy,
I am having a similar problem with my iPhone 8.  It does not seem to
be holding a charge, but, when I check the battery health everything
shows up as fine.  I have been in contact with apple accessibility,
and they are supposed to call me back this morning.  I will let you
know if I learn anything.

Candy

Sent from my iPhone 8


On Oct 30, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:

For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10
percent yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple
support who tested everything and could find nothing wrong.  They
have booked me into my local Apple approved shop for further
investigation.  Has anyone got anythoughts as to why my SE is doing this.

Regards

Judy

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RE: Battery drain

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Judy,

You go to Settings > General > Reset and then look for Reset Network Settings.
Once you double tap on it, you will get a prompt asking you to confirm if you 
want to do this, double tap Yes.
Then your iPhone restarts and when it gets back to the lock screen, enter your 
PIN if you have one.
There are only two thing you have to do after a reset network settings:
1. If your iPhone is called something like Judy's iPhone, you have to go to 
Settings > General > About (at the very top). Double tap on it, the first item 
is the phone's name and during a reset network settings the name defaults back 
to simply "iPhone". This is a normal edit field, you can double tap on it, go 
to the beginning of the line and put "Judy's" in front of "iPhone" or call it 
whatever you want.
2. You will also be disconnected from your WiFi, go to Settings > WiFi, find 
your network and double tap on it, you then have to enter your WiFi password 
and then double tap on "Join" at the bottom right of the keyboard.
That's it, after that you are done and I have seen this little procedure make a 
huge difference from battery life to other issues. There will be no change in 
anything else, all your apps will be there where you put them, you will loose 
no data or anything like that.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Judy 
Pryor
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery drain

Sieghard I have never done a network
 Reset.  How do you do it and do you have to put a lot of data back.


Judy
Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Oct 2019, at 16:31, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> My battery has been draining a lot lately, but my battery health is good 
> though.
> 
>> On 10/30/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Do a Reset Network Settings and see if that helps.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Candy Lowe
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery drain
>> 
>> Judy,
>> I am having a similar problem with my iPhone 8.  It does not seem to 
>> be holding a charge, but, when I check the battery health everything 
>> shows up as fine.  I have been in contact with apple accessibility, 
>> and they are supposed to call me back this morning.  I will let you 
>> know if I learn anything.
>> 
>> Candy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 8
>> 
 On Oct 30, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>>> For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10 
>>> percent yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple 
>>> support who tested everything and could find nothing wrong.  They 
>>> have booked me into my local Apple approved shop for further 
>>> investigation.  Has anyone got anythoughts as to why my SE is doing this.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Judy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: On Screen keyboard in 13.2

[Andy Baracco]

Go into Settings, keyboard, and disable slide to type.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Karen Poulakos" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:53 AM
Subject: On Screen keyboard in 13.2



Hi,

I updated to 13.2 last night.  This morning I noticed that one of my 
folder
names has been changed to "Folder".  I've been trying to correct it.  I 
use

the touch typing setting.  As I run my finger over the letters to find the
correct letter, groups of letters seem to be inserted to my folder name 
edit

field.  Such as, sliding over the H, then the U, will unintentionally type
those letters without lifting my finger.  Then, when I try to delete them
I'm closed out of the edit mode, and my phone says "Finished Editing". 
And

even though I think they were deleted, they still appear to be there, and
the on screen keyboard has disappeared.

I checked the settings, and Touch Typing is still selected, as far as I 
can

tell.

Any suggestions?

Karen P

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Dual sym card capability?

[Shermeen Khan]

Hi all,

Has anyone tried and had any success with using two sym cards (or
micro-sims) in one phone? I seem to recall this being a feature in the
iPhone 11 onward, but didn't know if anyone had actually tried it.
It's a feature I have high hopes for, as I'd prefer to use one device
for both work and personal use, while maintaining different phone
numbers and such.

Thanks,
Shermeen

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Re: Repeating Notifications

[Tom Lange]

I’m running IOS 13.3 and I’ve noticed that notifications will repeat until 
they’re activated by double-tapping them or dissmissing them. To dismiss them, 
I usually flick down until I hear VO say “Dismiss”, then double-tap and the 
notification disappears. 

Tom l

> On Oct 30, 2019, at 8:01 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
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> 
> Since I upgraded to IOS 13.2 I get notifications that repeat every minute.  
> How do I stop this behavior?
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> Andy
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Repeating Notifications

[Andy Baracco]

Since I upgraded to IOS 13.2 I get notifications that repeat every minute.  How 
do I stop this behavior?

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RE: After upgrading to 13.2 ...

[Robert Wright]

Settings/sounds and haptech.

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From: Terri Hedgpeth
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: After upgrading to 13.2 ...

Ok, please someone remind me where to go to turn off all the key clicks, beeps, 
etc. so the rest of the world does not hear when I am accessing my phone.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: After upgrading to 13.2 ...

This is a known issue among those who use hearing aids and also were beta 
testers of 13.2. Let’s hope this is something Apple will fix soon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Earlene 
Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: After upgrading to 13.2 ...

Hello all,
Thank you Terri for posting your message. I am receiving the same results. 
Voiceover plays in my hearing aids, but, I am not receiving the message sound 
or the email sound on my phone or in my hearing aids. The loss of the message 
sound is definitely a problem. I am going to call Apple. Hopefully Apple will 
create a case for this issue.
-Earlene

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Hedgpeth
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: After upgrading to 13.2 ...

Hello all,
Since I upgraded yesterday to 13.2, Voiceover stills plays through my hearing 
aids, but all the clicks bumps and beeps do not route through them. Those 
sounds are heard by anyone in the room with me, and the sounds are loud. 
Thoughts?
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth
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RE: Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to the speakerwhen moved away from my ear?

[Robert Wright]

Settings/general/accessibility/voiceover/audio

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From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 3:49 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List'
Subject: Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to the speakerwhen 
moved away from my ear?

Hi List,

I'm having a devil of a time finding the setting to turn off causing the phone 
to send audio through its main speaker when moved away from the ear. When on a 
phone call, my phone keeps switching between the main speaker and the ear 
speaker even though I'm holding it next to my ear causing me to lose a lot of 
the spoken words.

I'm running iOS 13.2 on an iPhone 8.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Alan Lemly
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RE: Annoying Bug With the "Next Keyboard" Button for Text Entry in iOS 13.2

[Cris Ali]

A friend of mine using iPhone told me that her iPhone has the same problem. She 
finds it hard to switch among the three keyboards she has.

Regards,

Cris

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Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:59 PM
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Subject: Annoying Bug With the "Next Keyboard" Button for Text Entry in iOS 13.2


Hello.

On the positive side I am thrilled that Flicktype's functionality has been 
restored to VoiceOver users as a third party keyboard in iOS 13.2. However, 
there is an annoying issue on my iPhone 8 which I have discovered that I wanted 
to mention. I plan to email Apple Accessibility about this but if others are 
affected by this issue I'd like to encourage them to do so as well.

When I bring up a text entry field with the standard English keyboard the "next 
keyboard" button reports something like "next keyboard, emoji." Double tapping 
this button switches to the emoji keyboard, as expected. I then hear "next 
keyboard, Flicktype" but double tapping the button does not switch to the 
Flicktype keyboard as it should and is it reliably did in iOS 12. Instead, it 
stays on the emoji keyboard. As a workaround if I double tap and hold the 
button it does seem to switch over to using Flicktype. I'm wondering if other 
Flicktype users are able to confirm this?




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RE: Mystery Solved - RE: More Strangeness

[Karen Poulakos]

Thanks so much for that tip, Richard!  Glad to hear that.  I’ll take care of 
that right now.

 

The home phone is a Panasonic cordless phone with 5 hand sets.  The menu 
settings are not accessible, but it does have talking caller ID, which is why 
we purchased it.  It also has a USB port on the side of the main base, which 
really comes in handy for charging my iPhone. It was purchased at Sam’s club, 
about 6 years ago.

 

Karen 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mystery Solved - RE: More Strangeness

 

Is the home phone listed in your Bluetooth settings? 

If so, you could go to the ore info button and forget that device.

Then, it won't reconnect unless you add it back in.

At least, that is what I think would happen never had such a system.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Oct 30, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

What is happening is that my iPhone is connecting to my home phone using 
bluetooth.  Years ago, my son discovered that I could accept calls from my cell 
phone on our home phone, which is a set of 5 chordless phones.  He tested it, 
and it worked.  But I thought he had turned it off, because I really didn't see 
any need for that feature.

Somehow the update reactivated it.  Next time he is here I'll have to have him 
see if he can disable blutooth on the home phone. 

Karen P
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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: More Strangeness

Ok, my keyboard problem is solved.  It was the slide to touch  feature that
was the problem.  Thanks for the help with that.

Now, I just received a call on my iPhone, that also rang on my land line
phone.  That's also new since the 13.2 update.  What do I need to turn off
to solve that problem, without loosing the ability to have Facetime ring on
both my iPhone and iPad?

Thanks.

Karen P

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Re: Mystery Solved - RE: More Strangeness

[Richard Turner]

Is the home phone listed in your Bluetooth settings?
If so, you could go to the ore info button and forget that device.
Then, it won't reconnect unless you add it back in.
At least, that is what I think would happen never had such a system.




Richard
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On Oct 30, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

What is happening is that my iPhone is connecting to my home phone using 
bluetooth.  Years ago, my son discovered that I could accept calls from my cell 
phone on our home phone, which is a set of 5 chordless phones.  He tested it, 
and it worked.  But I thought he had turned it off, because I really didn't see 
any need for that feature.

Somehow the update reactivated it.  Next time he is here I'll have to have him 
see if he can disable blutooth on the home phone.

Karen P
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: More Strangeness

Ok, my keyboard problem is solved.  It was the slide to touch  feature that
was the problem.  Thanks for the help with that.

Now, I just received a call on my iPhone, that also rang on my land line
phone.  That's also new since the 13.2 update.  What do I need to turn off
to solve that problem, without loosing the ability to have Facetime ring on
both my iPhone and iPad?

Thanks.

Karen P

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Mystery Solved - RE: More Strangeness

[Karen Poulakos]

What is happening is that my iPhone is connecting to my home phone using 
bluetooth.  Years ago, my son discovered that I could accept calls from my cell 
phone on our home phone, which is a set of 5 chordless phones.  He tested it, 
and it worked.  But I thought he had turned it off, because I really didn't see 
any need for that feature.

Somehow the update reactivated it.  Next time he is here I'll have to have him 
see if he can disable blutooth on the home phone. 

Karen P
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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: More Strangeness

Ok, my keyboard problem is solved.  It was the slide to touch  feature that
was the problem.  Thanks for the help with that.

Now, I just received a call on my iPhone, that also rang on my land line
phone.  That's also new since the 13.2 update.  What do I need to turn off
to solve that problem, without loosing the ability to have Facetime ring on
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Karen P

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Nearby Explorer

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

All is well with Nearby Explorer, not the on-line version. Tweaked settings
and now I hear street names. Downloaded one of the first 2 in the lists for
Google Maps which appear to be identical only the descriptions aren't. Both
are 144 mb. I was confused by how each app was prefaced by my hearing
"advertisement button."  Many more things are now showing as nearby.
I wish I knew exactly what set of maps was downloading since voice
over said it was already 100% complete and now it is moving on to
downloading or updating more maps. I'm curious about the process.
Dulce are you using on-line Nearby Explorer now?

Deidre

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Resolved was Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to the speaker when moved away from my ear?

[Alan Lemly]

Hello again List,

 

I found my own answer. It's under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio,
Auto select speaker in call. I've now turned this off. I guess I had trouble
finding it because this doesn't seem like an accessibility setting to me
since everyone talks on the phone whether using VoiceOver or not and might
want to tweak whether the call comes through the speaker or not.

 

Alan

 

Hi List,

 

I'm having a devil of a time finding the setting to turn off causing the
phone to send audio through its main speaker when moved away from the ear.
When on a phone call, my phone keeps switching between the main speaker and
the ear speaker even though I'm holding it next to my ear causing me to lose
a lot of the spoken words.

 

I'm running iOS 13.2 on an iPhone 8.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Alan Lemly

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Annoying Bug With the "Next Keyboard" Button for Text Entry in iOS 13.2

[David Goldfield]

Hello.

On the positive side I am thrilled that Flicktype's functionality has been 
restored to VoiceOver users as a third party keyboard in iOS 13.2. However, 
there is an annoying issue on my iPhone 8 which I have discovered that I wanted 
to mention. I plan to email Apple Accessibility about this but if others are 
affected by this issue I'd like to encourage them to do so as well.

When I bring up a text entry field with the standard English keyboard the "next 
keyboard" button reports something like "next keyboard, emoji." Double tapping 
this button switches to the emoji keyboard, as expected. I then hear "next 
keyboard, Flicktype" but double tapping the button does not switch to the 
Flicktype keyboard as it should and is it reliably did in iOS 12. Instead, it 
stays on the emoji keyboard. As a workaround if I double tap and hold the 
button it does seem to switch over to using Flicktype. I'm wondering if other 
Flicktype users are able to confirm this?



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How to delete apps from my Apple watch?

[Ann Byrne]

My watch can't update because there isn't enough free space.  I would 
be happy to delete most of the apps from the watch, but I can't 
figure out how.  Could someone please clue me in?


Thx, 


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Where is the setting not to have the iPhone revert to the speaker when moved away from my ear?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I'm having a devil of a time finding the setting to turn off causing the
phone to send audio through its main speaker when moved away from the ear.
When on a phone call, my phone keeps switching between the main speaker and
the ear speaker even though I'm holding it next to my ear causing me to lose
a lot of the spoken words.

 

I'm running iOS 13.2 on an iPhone 8.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

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Re: Anyone using Instagram?

[Victor Gouveia]

Hi Sharonda,

Since Facebook took over Instagram, it's become much more accessible, with 
picture descriptions, just as you get on Facebook.


There are some ways to go with the App, but it's issues that will play for 
now until Facebook get's it's boots dug in.


Victor

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Subject: Re: Anyone using Instagram?

I would be interested in your tips with working with Instagram. I
thought that most stuff there is pictures, so I haven't tried. Do you
use a screenreader? If so, how do you get around? Thanks.
Sharonda

On 10/30/19, Maria Reyes  wrote:


Hi Robin,
Yes Instagram is manageable. I use it on my 11Pro. I have a few tips if
you want to post. but If you just want to just follow people, it's pretty
easy. when you sign up you can either enter your number or sign in with
Facebook.

On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:53 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:


I have had no desire to join Instagram, but an aspect of my job, some
volunteer work and even  an assignment my daughter had to do for school
makes me think I at least need to get on as a viewer.  Anyone here using
the iPhone app and can I manage it?  I have assumed it’s kind of like 
when
people post images on Facebook with little description, so I get it if 
the

actual posts may not be accessible.  Will I be able to manage setting it
up and finding people to follow?  Any tips are appreciated.

Robin -


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Re: Anyone using Instagram?

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> Hi, I use VoiceOver on my phone with Instagram If people are nice enough to 
> put captions on their posts, VoiceOver will read the captions. or the person 
> can edit the Alt text like on Facebook where VO will say something like 
> grass, tress, child standing outdoors. People can edit that and put in a more 
> accurate description. .
> 
> On Oct 30, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
> 
> I would be interested in your tips with working with Instagram. I
> thought that most stuff there is pictures, so I haven't tried. Do you
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> Sharonda
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> Yes Instagram is manageable. I use it on my 11Pro. I have a few tips if
> you want to post. but If you just want to just follow people, it's pretty
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> Facebook.
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> makes me think I at least need to get on as a viewer.  Anyone here using
> the iPhone app and can I manage it?  I have assumed it’s kind of like when
> people post images on Facebook with little description, so I get it if the
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Re: Anyone using Instagram?

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I would be interested in your tips with working with Instagram. I
thought that most stuff there is pictures, so I haven't tried. Do you
use a screenreader? If so, how do you get around? Thanks.
Sharonda

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>> Hi Robin,
>> Yes Instagram is manageable. I use it on my 11Pro. I have a few tips if
>> you want to post. but If you just want to just follow people, it's pretty
>> easy. when you sign up you can either enter your number or sign in with
>> Facebook.
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:53 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:
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>> volunteer work and even  an assignment my daughter had to do for school
>> makes me think I at least need to get on as a viewer.  Anyone here using
>> the iPhone app and can I manage it?  I have assumed it’s kind of like when
>> people post images on Facebook with little description, so I get it if the
>> actual posts may not be accessible.  Will I be able to manage setting it
>> up and finding people to follow?  Any tips are appreciated.
>>
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Re: And Wi-Fi in contacts

[Maria Reyes]

> 
> Hi, you have to be in close range to the other contact. It should just pop up 
> on your phone asking if you would like to share the wifi password with your 
> contact. I don't think it's a setting you enable or disable. 
> 
> On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
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> Hi there, I am actually trying to set things up so that I can bring someone 
> onto the Wi-Fi without having to give him the password.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 30, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> I don't quite follow what you are trying to do. What does a contact on  your 
> phone have to do with connecting your Mac to  your WiFi?
> Is there a reason why you can't simply type in your WiFi password? If you 
> want to make sure you are typing it correctly just type it first in a text 
> editor, copy it to the clipboard and then paste it into the field for the 
> WiFi password.
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> Hello everyone I am trying to get a MacBook Air onto the Wi-Fi. How do I set 
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Re: Anyone using Instagram?

[Maria Reyes]

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> app and can I manage it?  I have assumed it’s kind of like when people post 
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Re: problem with 13.2 update

[Arlene]

Vicki, reboot your phone which will help. This seems to happen when going 
through an update, that when the update it's done it switches to the samantha 
voice. For example that's what happened today when Wayne did the update on the 
ipad, and the tom voice we use was grayed out, so rebooting you phone should 
bring your voices back so you could change to them again.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vicki W. 
  To: IPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 5:43 PM
  Subject: problem with 13.2 update


  Well, I haven't had a problem with any of the updates until now. 

  When my phone first started after the update, my Voice Over was not using the 
default voice as it always did before.

  I went into Accessability to change it back and all the US voices were there, 
but the ones I had downloaded were not accessible, no button, just the name. 
The ones I hadn't downloaded were listed and downloadable.

  Even the SIRI male and female options in Voice over were listed, but I 
couldn't select them as Voice Over voices either.

  The other options under UK, India, etc were available to me.

  So how can I get my US voices to work again and where are they if I have all 
ready downloaded them?

  Thanks.

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Re: Question About Reading Email

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

This bug involves VoiceOver focus randomly leaping to either the top left 
button or to some email higher up the list. The bug has been around for a 
while. Please do report it to Apple Accessibility!
Harry

> On 30 Oct 2019, at 17:38, Shirley Baker  wrote:
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> My question about reading email is this. Once I read my email message and I 
> flick up to delete it, it says mail boxes back button. Instead of being able 
> to flick right to the next one, that's when I get this messsage. What should 
> I set my rotor to so it won't say mail boxes back button after deleting an 
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Re: Question About Reading Email

[Shirley Baker]

I just sent them an email and hopefully they will get this corrected.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Please report this to Apple Accessibility. accessibil...@apple.com
> This is a bug in iOS 13.
> It mostly occurs for me on the top email in the list; but it happens 
> elsewhere or it jumps me back several emails in the list.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> Wagner
> 
> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Shirley Baker  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> My question about reading email is this. Once I read my email message and I 
>> flick up to delete it, it says mail boxes back button. Instead of being able 
>> to flick right to the next one, that's when I get this messsage. What should 
>> I set my rotor to so it won't say mail boxes back button after deleting an 
>> email.
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Re: when answering my phone

[Richard Turner]

No, you cannot end calls with Siri or Voice Control.
Another thing to constantly request from Apple.




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On Oct 30, 2019, at 6:40 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

But you still cannot use Siri nor voice control on iPhone to end the call.
Harry

On 30 Oct 2019, at 13:06, Richard Turner  wrote:

You cannot do that with Siri, but you can with Voice Control.
It is something that may take two or three tries, but if you have Voice Control 
on, and the phone rings you can try either saying "VoiceOver Magic Tap," which 
you may have to repeat a couple times.
Or, say "swipe right" which should put you on the accept button, then say 
"double tap," and you have answered the phone.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: when answering my phone

It sucks that you can't just tell Siri to answer a call, Or is this feature 
somewhere and I just don't know it.

On 10/29/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Same here, automatic always worked for me and I only very rarely may
set it to answer automatically if I am doing something where I might
not be able to tap to answer a call but expect a call which I will want to 
answer.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: when answering my phone

Well, I have my phone set to automatic, and if the bluetooth earpiece
is on, I can answer with them.
Are you leaving your bluetooth headset on all the time?
Is it perhaps going to sleep?
I'm not sure what to say here.



Richard
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with it."
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On Oct 29, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:

Well, I've now found audio call routing, thanks to folks on this list.
But now, my phone rings, and my bluetooth headset turns off
completely.  How do I get calls to go directly to the headset as I
have now got it set up for that to happen.  But it doesn't

Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:41 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What does Audio Routing do? Is it in Setting on its own, in hearing
devices or VoiceOver?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: when answering my phone

Hi Shirley,

The setting Duane is looking for is not found in Voiceover > Audio,
that is only where you can turn the automatic switching from earpiece
to speaker on or off.
What Duane was looking for is in Accessibility > Touch > Call Audio
Routing.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Shirley Baker
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: when answering my phone

Go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, audio and double tap on the
one you want.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

Hello Friends,

In the latest update, I can't find the setting that allows you to let
your phone answer with the choice of speaker, bluetooth headset, or automatic.
That setting appears to have disappeared.  Any idea where it went?  Thanks.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Question About Reading Email

[Richard Turner]

Please report this to Apple Accessibility. accessibil...@apple.com
This is a bug in iOS 13.
It mostly occurs for me on the top email in the list; but it happens elsewhere 
or it jumps me back several emails in the list.




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On Oct 30, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Shirley Baker  wrote:

My question about reading email is this. Once I read my email message and I 
flick up to delete it, it says mail boxes back button. Instead of being able to 
flick right to the next one, that's when I get this messsage. What should I set 
my rotor to so it won't say mail boxes back button after deleting an email.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Question About Reading Email

[Devin Prater]

This is a bug, sorry. It should not do this.

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Re: Another question Re: 13.2

[Richard Turner]

Do a 1 finger triple tap on the app store icon, and a context menu will come up 
near the bottom of the screen. Flick through that with one finger to updates 
and double tap.
Also, you may want to do a three finger swipe down once you are in there to 
refresh the screen to get the most recent updates.
HTH,




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On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

I wanted to check for app updates, and the App Store seems to have changed.
Where do I find them?

Thanks.

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Getting stuck on the status bar

[Marcia Yale]

I have noticed that, with IOS 13.2, VoiceOver gets stuck on the status bar
when I open an app. The Nest app is a great example, but it has happened to
me with others, too. Most of the time if I hit the home button and then go
back to the app I can get at the app, but sometimes I just get stuck again
on the status bar. Thoughts please.

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Another question Re: 13.2

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I wanted to check for app updates, and the App Store seems to have changed.
Where do I find them?

Thanks.

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More Strangeness

[Karen Poulakos]

Ok, my keyboard problem is solved.  It was the slide to touch  feature that
was the problem.  Thanks for the help with that.

Now, I just received a call on my iPhone, that also rang on my land line
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to solve that problem, without loosing the ability to have Facetime ring on
both my iPhone and iPad?

Thanks.

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Question About Reading Email

[Shirley Baker]

My question about reading email is this. Once I read my email message and I 
flick up to delete it, it says mail boxes back button. Instead of being able to 
flick right to the next one, that's when I get this messsage. What should I set 
my rotor to so it won't say mail boxes back button after deleting an email.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: What does every one like about the new iOS update

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

I love love that too.

> On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Well, so far I like that if I hang up from a call, I don't lose VoiceOver, 
> worth the annoyance of that when Bluetooth on, sound effects do not stream to 
> my hearing aids. I'd rather that be like it was, but when compared to what I 
> was putting up with,  no problem in this world. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> What does every one like about the new iOS update
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RE: What does every one like about the new iOS update

[Carolyn]

Well, so far I like that if I hang up from a call, I don't lose VoiceOver, 
worth the annoyance of that when Bluetooth on, sound effects do not stream to 
my hearing aids. I'd rather that be like it was, but when compared to what I 
was putting up with,  no problem in this world. 

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What does every one like about the new iOS update

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RE: when answering my phone

[Carolyn]

Did you check in Hearing Devices or VoiceOver for Audio Routing? Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Duane Steele
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:06 PM
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Subject: Re: when answering my phone

Audio routing's supposed to allow you to choose how to answer your phone, 
automatic, Speaker or headset.  But it seems to have disappeared.  It used to 
be in accessibility.  But now, I can't find it anywhere.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:41 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What does Audio Routing do? Is it in Setting on its own, in hearing devices 
> or VoiceOver? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
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> Hi Shirley,
> 
> The setting Duane is looking for is not found in Voiceover > Audio, that is 
> only where you can turn the automatic switching from earpiece to speaker on 
> or off.
> What Duane was looking for is in Accessibility > Touch > Call Audio Routing.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: when answering my phone
> 
> Go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, audio and double tap on the one you 
> want.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Friends,
>> 
>> In the latest update, I can't find the setting that allows you to let your 
>> phone answer with the choice of speaker, bluetooth headset, or automatic.  
>> That setting appears to have disappeared.  Any idea where it went?  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: After upgrading to 13.2 ...

[Terri Hedgpeth]

Ok, please someone remind me where to go to turn off all the key clicks, beeps, 
etc. so the rest of the world does not hear when I am accessing my phone.

Best,

Terri Hedgpeth

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: After upgrading to 13.2 ...

 

This is a known issue among those who use hearing aids and also were beta 
testers of 13.2. Let’s hope this is something Apple will fix soon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Earlene Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: After upgrading to 13.2 ...

 

Hello all,

Thank you Terri for posting your message. I am receiving the same results. 
Voiceover plays in my hearing aids, but, I am not receiving the message sound 
or the email sound on my phone or in my hearing aids. The loss of the message 
sound is definitely a problem. I am going to call Apple. Hopefully Apple will 
create a case for this issue.

-Earlene

 

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Terri Hedgpeth
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 12:14 PM
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Subject: After upgrading to 13.2 ...

 

Hello all,

Since I upgraded yesterday to 13.2, Voiceover stills plays through my hearing 
aids, but all the clicks bumps and beeps do not route through them. Those 
sounds are heard by anyone in the room with me, and the sounds are loud. 
Thoughts?

Best,

Terri Hedgpeth

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Re: Battery drain

[Judy Pryor]

Sieghard I have never done a network
 Reset.  How do you do it and do you have to put a lot of data back.


Judy
Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Oct 2019, at 16:31, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> My battery has been draining a lot lately, but my battery health is good 
> though.
> 
>> On 10/30/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Do a Reset Network Settings and see if that helps.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Candy
>> Lowe
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery drain
>> 
>> Judy,
>> I am having a similar problem with my iPhone 8.  It does not seem to be
>> holding a charge, but, when I check the battery health everything shows up
>> as fine.  I have been in contact with apple accessibility, and they are
>> supposed to call me back this morning.  I will let you know if I learn
>> anything.
>> 
>> Candy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 8
>> 
 On Oct 30, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>>> For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10 percent
>>> yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple support who tested
>>> everything and could find nothing wrong.  They have booked me into my
>>> local Apple approved shop for further investigation.  Has anyone got
>>> anythoughts as to why my SE is doing this.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Judy
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Re: Battery drain

[Judy Pryor]

Thank you Candy, Michael and Gordon will let you know of the outcome frrom the 
Apple shop.  I am quite prepared to buy a new battery as I am very happy with 
my SE.


Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Oct 2019, at 13:36, Candy Lowe  wrote:
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> Judy,
> I am having a similar problem with my iPhone 8.  It does not seem to be 
> holding a charge, but, when I check the battery health everything shows up as 
> fine.  I have been in contact with apple accessibility, and they are supposed 
> to call me back this morning.  I will let you know if I learn anything.
> 
> Candy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 8 
> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10 percent 
>> yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple support who tested 
>> everything and could find nothing wrong.  They have booked me into my local 
>> Apple approved shop for further investigation.  Has anyone got   anythoughts 
>> as to why my SE is doing this.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
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Re: Battery drain

[lenron brown]

My battery has been draining a lot lately, but my battery health is good though.

On 10/30/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Do a Reset Network Settings and see if that helps.
>
>
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>
> Judy,
> I am having a similar problem with my iPhone 8.  It does not seem to be
> holding a charge, but, when I check the battery health everything shows up
> as fine.  I have been in contact with apple accessibility, and they are
> supposed to call me back this morning.  I will let you know if I learn
> anything.
>
> Candy
>
> Sent from my iPhone 8
>
>>> On Oct 30, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10 percent
>> yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple support who tested
>> everything and could find nothing wrong.  They have booked me into my
>> local Apple approved shop for further investigation.  Has anyone got
>> anythoughts as to why my SE is doing this.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Question About Reading Email

[Shirley Baker]

After I read an email using iPhone 6S plus with the latest update, it says mail 
boxes back button. What can I do to go to the next message? I don't always open 
each message to read them but I lay 3 fingers on the screen and let it read the 
message unless the message is very long and I flick up to delete and swipe 
right to go to the next message. Also, what should my rotor be set to?Question 
About Reading Email

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Anyone using Instagram?

[R Van Lant]

I have had no desire to join Instagram, but an aspect of my job, some volunteer 
work and even  an assignment my daughter had to do for school makes me think I 
at least need to get on as a viewer.  Anyone here using the iPhone app and can 
I manage it?  I have assumed it's kind of like when people post images on 
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accessible.  Will I be able to manage setting it up and finding people to 
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Re: And Wi-Fi in contacts

[Michael Irons]

Hi there, I am actually trying to set things up so that I can bring someone 
onto the Wi-Fi without having to give him the password.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> I don't quite follow what you are trying to do. What does a contact on  your 
> phone have to do with connecting your Mac to  your WiFi?
> Is there a reason why you can't simply type in your WiFi password? If you 
> want to make sure you are typing it correctly just type it first in a text 
> editor, copy it to the clipboard and then paste it into the field for the 
> WiFi password.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: And Wi-Fi in contacts
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> Hello everyone I am trying to get a MacBook Air onto the Wi-Fi. How do I set 
> up a contact in my phone so that I can bring the computer onto the Wi-Fi 
> without having to put in the passcode?
> 
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RE: And Wi-Fi in contacts

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't quite follow what you are trying to do. What does a contact on  your 
phone have to do with connecting your Mac to  your WiFi?
Is there a reason why you can't simply type in your WiFi password? If you want 
to make sure you are typing it correctly just type it first in a text editor, 
copy it to the clipboard and then paste it into the field for the WiFi password.

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Irons
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Subject: And Wi-Fi in contacts


Hello everyone I am trying to get a MacBook Air onto the Wi-Fi. How do I set up 
a contact in my phone so that I can bring the computer onto the Wi-Fi without 
having to put in the passcode?

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RE: Battery drain

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do a Reset Network Settings and see if that helps.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Candy 
Lowe
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery drain

Judy,
I am having a similar problem with my iPhone 8.  It does not seem to be holding 
a charge, but, when I check the battery health everything shows up as fine.  I 
have been in contact with apple accessibility, and they are supposed to call me 
back this morning.  I will let you know if I learn anything.

Candy

Sent from my iPhone 8 

>> On Oct 30, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10 percent 
> yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple support who tested 
> everything and could find nothing wrong.  They have booked me into my local 
> Apple approved shop for further investigation.  Has anyone got   anythoughts 
> as to why my SE is doing this.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Judy
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RE: keyboard puzzlement

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Could you provide a reason why you don’t want a keyboard which potentially can 
support more than one device? If you don’t want to use the feature you don’t 
have to.
There is always the Apple wireless keyboard, I think it’s called the Magic 
Keyboard.

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 3:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keyboard puzzlement

I was afraid they had stopped making that keyboard and I am contemplating a 
replacement for that reason. Suggestions? Keeping in mind, I want to stay away 
from multi-device keyboards. Now, to your question. Apparently, according to 
the list of keyboard commands listed under accessibility, the page up and down 
keys allow access to the control center and I believe the notification center. 
Someone may want to crosscheck that but I am fairly certain that there are 
keyboard commands which require use of either page up or down.
DE WA4WGA

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 20:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keyboard puzzlement

Its too bad they stopped making that keyboard.
I think you are right that the FN key is the lower left.
In what situation are you needing page up or down?
Are you talking about the same as a three finger swipe up or down?
I've not run into situations where I needed a page up/down key.



Richard
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On Oct 29, 2019, at 4:25 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
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Several years ago, I bought an Amazon Basics Blue Tooth keyboard which I have 
managed to use across all three of the phones I have had over the years. A 5, a 
6plus, and now an 8plus. It did not occur to me that this keyboard did not have 
a page up or page down key until I found I needed those functions this morning. 
First question, How do I emulate page up and page down functions which I 
understand requires use of the FN key? Second question, Where is the FN key on 
this particular keyboard? I believe it to be bottom lower left of the keyboard 
but I am not certain as it is not spoken in keyboard help when pressed. Does it 
have to be used with a modifier key? Is it locked? If so, How do I go about 
unlocking it? Or, does that particular key not work on the IPhone? Anyone who 
knows anything about this keyboard, I’m running up a help me flag. Thanks folks.
Ray T. Mahorney
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RE: Braille output shows up in UEB

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

I added the English us braille table, but the English us is 
dimmed and the unified English is selected.  I can’t figure out how to unselect 
it.  The double tap doesn’t seem to do the trick. Sorry for being so dense.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

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Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:14 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
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Hi,

 

You need to change your braille table to U.S. English Braille. To do this, open 
VoiceOver Settings, choose Braille, then Braille Tables. You'll find a button 
that says, "English, Unified, System." Double-tap that and then double-tap 
English, U.S.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 





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Hi.  Yes, I’m one of those old school people who wants contracted braille input 
and output.  I just updated to 13.2 and my braille output shows up in UEB.  
I’ve tried turning my phone off and back on again and also doing a hard re-set 
with the volume up, then volume down and holding the lock screen button. I’ve 
checked the braille settings and they show up as contracted braille both for 
input and output.  I tried turning them off and back on again and that doesn’t 
seem to help.  I remember that someone else had the same issue and there was a 
solution, but I can’t seem to find it now.  Any help would be appreciated.  I’m 
using an IPhone 7.

Thanks very much.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

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What happened to the scrub gesture to exit braille screen input?

[Kimber Gardner]

Hi all,

I just updated my iPhone 7 yesterday. To my dismay, I found the scrub
gesture no longer works to exit braille screen input.

I seem to recall there is some way to define this gesture so I can
still use it. Is this true? And if so would someone list the steps for
me?

And finally, why the heck would apple change that? Sometimes I just
don't see the reason for some changes.

Thanks,
Kim

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Notifications don’t leave

[regina alvarado]

Hi, wondering if it is only my phone. Just annoying so if I have to do what I 
have been doing so be it. Just curious to know if anyone else has noticed this. 
When I get a notification it no longer leaves the screen after a couple 
seconds. I actually have to dismiss it. Sometimes it gets in the way to 
continue to do what I wanted to do. I am running 13.2 on an XR.


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Nearby Explorer and Google Maps

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Hello 
3 days ago I downloaded Nearby Explorer from a family sharing purchase page
in the App Store. What I have is Version1.30.00 copywright date of
2010-2019. I've hard since that the only Nearby Explorer now available is
the on-line App. This does not appear to be true since the app I downloaded
works fine except it is not announcing street names.
I've looked at every setting and streets is dimmed out. I am getting
business names, precise compass directions, and all kinds of other things
that I want. . One of the few things I have turned off is Gobeam. I don't
even know what it is.
I am using an i Phone 6, and I cannot update to 13, and   the bugs
others have reported are not relevant to  what I am running.
I just selected Google Maps in Nearby Explorer's settings. I went to
the App store to download some Google Maps but there are so many choices and
I don't know which I should choose. Help! 
I updated the maps when prompted by NE when I first downloaded the
app, and that had to be Apple maps. In Settings there is an option to delete
the Maps App, but is it safe to do that. Will my iphone truly allow me to
run Google Maps on it if I choose the most comprehensive of their Maps App?
That seems unusually altruistic. 

Deidre

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Re: Braille output shows up in UEB

[Richard Turner]

Go into the braille settings and change the braille table to US.




Richard
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On Oct 30, 2019, at 7:42 AM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
wrote:


Hi.  Yes, I’m one of those old school people who wants contracted braille input 
and output.  I just updated to 13.2 and my braille output shows up in UEB.  
I’ve tried turning my phone off and back on again and also doing a hard re-set 
with the volume up, then volume down and holding the lock screen button. I’ve 
checked the braille settings and they show up as contracted braille both for 
input and output.  I tried turning them off and back on again and that doesn’t 
seem to help.  I remember that someone else had the same issue and there was a 
solution, but I can’t seem to find it now.  Any help would be appreciated.  I’m 
using an IPhone 7.
Thanks very much.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon

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Re: Braille output shows up in UEB

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

You need to change your braille table to U.S. English Braille. To do this, open 
VoiceOver Settings, choose Braille, then Braille Tables. You'll find a button 
that says, "English, Unified, System." Double-tap that and then double-tap 
English, U.S.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi.  Yes, I’m one of those old school people who wants contracted braille 
> input and output.  I just updated to 13.2 and my braille output shows up in 
> UEB.  I’ve tried turning my phone off and back on again and also doing a hard 
> re-set with the volume up, then volume down and holding the lock screen 
> button. I’ve checked the braille settings and they show up as contracted 
> braille both for input and output.  I tried turning them off and back on 
> again and that doesn’t seem to help.  I remember that someone else had the 
> same issue and there was a solution, but I can’t seem to find it now.  Any 
> help would be appreciated.  I’m using an IPhone 7.
> Thanks very much.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
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And Wi-Fi in contacts

[Michael Irons]

Hello everyone I am trying to get a MacBook Air onto the Wi-Fi. How do I set up 
a contact in my phone so that I can bring the computer onto the Wi-Fi without 
having to put in the passcode?

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Re: On Screen keyboard in 13.2

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Karen,

It sounds like you're engaging Slide to type, which allows you to type by 
sliding your finger to all the letters of the word instead of tapping each 
letter. This feature is engaged if you hold your finger on a letter for more 
than a second. You can either turn it off or increase the amount of time you 
need to hold your finger on a letter before it turns on.

To turn off Slide to Type, go to Settings/General/Keyboard and turn off Slide 
to Type. To change how long you need to hold your finger on a letter to engage 
Slide to Type, go to settings/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Typing, and adjust the 
Keyboard Interaction Time.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 30, 2019, at 8:53 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I updated to 13.2 last night.  This morning I noticed that one of my folder
> names has been changed to "Folder".  I've been trying to correct it.  I use
> the touch typing setting.  As I run my finger over the letters to find the
> correct letter, groups of letters seem to be inserted to my folder name edit
> field.  Such as, sliding over the H, then the U, will unintentionally type
> those letters without lifting my finger.  Then, when I try to delete them
> I'm closed out of the edit mode, and my phone says "Finished Editing".  And
> even though I think they were deleted, they still appear to be there, and
> the on screen keyboard has disappeared.
> 
> I checked the settings, and Touch Typing is still selected, as far as I can
> tell.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Karen P  
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Braille output shows up in UEB

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi.  Yes, I’m one of those old school people who wants contracted braille
input and output.  I just updated to 13.2 and my braille output shows up in
UEB.  I’ve tried turning my phone off and back on again and also doing a
hard re-set with the volume up, then volume down and holding the lock screen
button. I’ve checked the braille settings and they show up as contracted
braille both for input and output.  I tried turning them off and back on
again and that doesn’t seem to help.  I remember that someone else had the
same issue and there was a solution, but I can’t seem to find it now.  Any
help would be appreciated.  I’m using an IPhone 7.

Thanks very much.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

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On Screen keyboard in 13.2

[Karen Poulakos]

Hi,

I updated to 13.2 last night.  This morning I noticed that one of my folder
names has been changed to "Folder".  I've been trying to correct it.  I use
the touch typing setting.  As I run my finger over the letters to find the
correct letter, groups of letters seem to be inserted to my folder name edit
field.  Such as, sliding over the H, then the U, will unintentionally type
those letters without lifting my finger.  Then, when I try to delete them
I'm closed out of the edit mode, and my phone says "Finished Editing".  And
even though I think they were deleted, they still appear to be there, and
the on screen keyboard has disappeared.

I checked the settings, and Touch Typing is still selected, as far as I can
tell.

Any suggestions?

Karen P  

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Re: when answering my phone

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

But you still cannot use Siri nor voice control on iPhone to end the call. 
Harry

> On 30 Oct 2019, at 13:06, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> You cannot do that with Siri, but you can with Voice Control.
> It is something that may take two or three tries, but if you have Voice 
> Control on, and the phone rings you can try either saying "VoiceOver Magic 
> Tap," which you may have to repeat a couple times.
> Or, say "swipe right" which should put you on the accept button, then say 
> "double tap," and you have answered the phone.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> Richard
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
> brown
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: when answering my phone
> 
> It sucks that you can't just tell Siri to answer a call, Or is this feature 
> somewhere and I just don't know it.
> 
>> On 10/29/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Same here, automatic always worked for me and I only very rarely may 
>> set it to answer automatically if I am doing something where I might 
>> not be able to tap to answer a call but expect a call which I will want to 
>> answer.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 5:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: when answering my phone
>> 
>> Well, I have my phone set to automatic, and if the bluetooth earpiece 
>> is on, I can answer with them.
>> Are you leaving your bluetooth headset on all the time?
>> Is it perhaps going to sleep?
>> I'm not sure what to say here.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it."
>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
>> Jane Wagner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I've now found audio call routing, thanks to folks on this list.  
>> But now, my phone rings, and my bluetooth headset turns off 
>> completely.  How do I get calls to go directly to the headset as I 
>> have now got it set up for that to happen.  But it doesn't
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:41 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> What does Audio Routing do? Is it in Setting on its own, in hearing 
>> devices or VoiceOver?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 12:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: when answering my phone
>> 
>> Hi Shirley,
>> 
>> The setting Duane is looking for is not found in Voiceover > Audio, 
>> that is only where you can turn the automatic switching from earpiece 
>> to speaker on or off.
>> What Duane was looking for is in Accessibility > Touch > Call Audio
>> Routing.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Shirley Baker
>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: when answering my phone
>> 
>> Go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, audio and double tap on the 
>> one you want.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Friends,
>> 
>> In the latest update, I can't find the setting that allows you to let 
>> your phone answer with the choice of speaker, bluetooth headset, or 
>> automatic.
>> That setting appears to have disappeared.  Any idea where it went?  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Battery drain

[Candy Lowe]

Judy,
I am having a similar problem with my iPhone 8.  It does not seem to be holding 
a charge, but, when I check the battery health everything shows up as fine.  I 
have been in contact with apple accessibility, and they are supposed to call me 
back this morning.  I will let you know if I learn anything.

Candy

Sent from my iPhone 8 

>> On Oct 30, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10 percent 
> yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple support who tested 
> everything and could find nothing wrong.  They have booked me into my local 
> Apple approved shop for further investigation.  Has anyone got   anythoughts 
> as to why my SE is doing this.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: when answering my phone

[Richard Turner]

You cannot do that with Siri, but you can with Voice Control.
It is something that may take two or three tries, but if you have Voice Control 
on, and the phone rings you can try either saying "VoiceOver Magic Tap," which 
you may have to repeat a couple times.
Or, say "swipe right" which should put you on the accept button, then say 
"double tap," and you have answered the phone.

Richard


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: when answering my phone

It sucks that you can't just tell Siri to answer a call, Or is this feature 
somewhere and I just don't know it.

On 10/29/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Same here, automatic always worked for me and I only very rarely may 
> set it to answer automatically if I am doing something where I might 
> not be able to tap to answer a call but expect a call which I will want to 
> answer.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 5:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: when answering my phone
>
> Well, I have my phone set to automatic, and if the bluetooth earpiece 
> is on, I can answer with them.
> Are you leaving your bluetooth headset on all the time?
> Is it perhaps going to sleep?
> I'm not sure what to say here.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
> Jane Wagner
>
>
>
> On Oct 29, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Well, I've now found audio call routing, thanks to folks on this list.  
> But now, my phone rings, and my bluetooth headset turns off 
> completely.  How do I get calls to go directly to the headset as I 
> have now got it set up for that to happen.  But it doesn't
>
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
>
> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:41 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> What does Audio Routing do? Is it in Setting on its own, in hearing 
> devices or VoiceOver?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 12:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: when answering my phone
>
> Hi Shirley,
>
> The setting Duane is looking for is not found in Voiceover > Audio, 
> that is only where you can turn the automatic switching from earpiece 
> to speaker on or off.
> What Duane was looking for is in Accessibility > Touch > Call Audio 
> Routing.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: when answering my phone
>
> Go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, audio and double tap on the 
> one you want.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>
> Hello Friends,
>
> In the latest update, I can't find the setting that allows you to let 
> your phone answer with the choice of speaker, bluetooth headset, or automatic.
> That setting appears to have disappeared.  Any idea where it went?  Thanks.
>
>
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: keyboard puzzlement

[Richard Turner]

My work around for getting to the control center or notification center with 
the keyboard is to do the status bar command followed by the swipe up or down 
command with Options Key up or down arrow:
Notification Center: VO-m then Option key-up arrow
Control Center: VO-m then Option key-down arrow

Richard

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From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 3:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keyboard puzzlement

I was afraid they had stopped making that keyboard and I am contemplating a 
replacement for that reason. Suggestions? Keeping in mind, I want to stay away 
from multi-device keyboards. Now, to your question. Apparently, according to 
the list of keyboard commands listed under accessibility, the page up and down 
keys allow access to the control center and I believe the notification center. 
Someone may want to crosscheck that but I am fairly certain that there are 
keyboard commands which require use of either page up or down.
DE WA4WGA

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 20:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keyboard puzzlement

Its too bad they stopped making that keyboard.
I think you are right that the FN key is the lower left.
In what situation are you needing page up or down?
Are you talking about the same as a three finger swipe up or down?
I've not run into situations where I needed a page up/down key.



Richard
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On Oct 29, 2019, at 4:25 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Several years ago, I bought an Amazon Basics Blue Tooth keyboard which I have 
managed to use across all three of the phones I have had over the years. A 5, a 
6plus, and now an 8plus. It did not occur to me that this keyboard did not have 
a page up or page down key until I found I needed those functions this morning. 
First question, How do I emulate page up and page down functions which I 
understand requires use of the FN key? Second question, Where is the FN key on 
this particular keyboard? I believe it to be bottom lower left of the keyboard 
but I am not certain as it is not spoken in keyboard help when pressed. Does it 
have to be used with a modifier key? Is it locked? If so, How do I go about 
unlocking it? Or, does that particular key not work on the IPhone? Anyone who 
knows anything about this keyboard, I’m running up a help me flag. Thanks folks.
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: Battery drain

[Gordon]

It's all about your battery. I've known several people who have had this 
same problem and needed a battery replacement. So be prepared to pay for 
that when you take the phone in.


On 10/30/2019 7:20 AM, Judy Pryor wrote:

For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10 percent 
yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple support who tested 
everything and could find nothing wrong.  They have booked me into my local 
Apple approved shop for further investigation.  Has anyone got   anythoughts as 
to why my SE is doing this.

Regards

Judy

Sent from my iPhone



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Battery drain

[Judy Pryor]

For the past 2 nights my fully charged iPhone has dropped to 10 percent 
yesterday and 1 percent today.  I have been on to Apple support who tested 
everything and could find nothing wrong.  They have booked me into my local 
Apple approved shop for further investigation.  Has anyone got   anythoughts as 
to why my SE is doing this.

Regards

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Re: small announcement bug in settings when going back

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

ah so I was not the only one seeing that. While I am not a beginner, I still 
thought it a pain.
DE WA4WGA

From: Davy Cuppens 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 17:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: small announcement bug in settings when going back

Folks 

When in a menu f.e. settings accessibility voiceover speech when you do the 
scrub gesture or push the back button the previous main menu will be announced 
so back to voiceover, accessibility or settings back button.
>From ios13.2 on voiceover nolonger announces anything and stays quiet until 
>you touch somewhere on the screen.
This could come in handy to give you directions where you are and can be a pain 
for beginners I assume.
Regards
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RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Fanus Buys]

I do not quite understand you. An Apple iPod is an Apple device, so if Imazing 
can transfer music from a pc to an iPhone the same would be true for an iPod. 
Or do I totally misunderstand the whole concept of Imazing? So my question is 
if one can transfer music from pc to iPhone or is it only possible to transfer 
music from iPhone to pc?

Kind regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

We can't help you with working imze with an ipod since we've never had an ipod. 
Hopefully someone has had experience with an ipod and imzing.

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:43 AM

Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

Hello Arlene

How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the music 
then stored on the iPod?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.

- Original Message - 

From: Malcolm Parfitt   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an Apple 
device.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner





On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.







https://softorino.com/waltr/#  

Richard

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Re: keyboard puzzlement

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

I was afraid they had stopped making that keyboard and I am contemplating a 
replacement for that reason. Suggestions? Keeping in mind, I want to stay away 
from multi-device keyboards. Now, to your question. Apparently, according to 
the list of keyboard commands listed under accessibility, the page up and down 
keys allow access to the control center and I believe the notification center. 
Someone may want to crosscheck that but I am fairly certain that there are 
keyboard commands which require use of either page up or down.
DE WA4WGA

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 20:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: keyboard puzzlement

Its too bad they stopped making that keyboard. 
I think you are right that the FN key is the lower left.
In what situation are you needing page up or down?
Are you talking about the same as a three finger swipe up or down?
I've not run into situations where I needed a page up/down key.





Richard
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  On Oct 29, 2019, at 4:25 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


   
  Several years ago, I bought an Amazon Basics Blue Tooth keyboard which I have 
managed to use across all three of the phones I have had over the years. A 5, a 
6plus, and now an 8plus. It did not occur to me that this keyboard did not have 
a page up or page down key until I found I needed those functions this morning. 
First question, How do I emulate page up and page down functions which I 
understand requires use of the FN key? Second question, Where is the FN key on 
this particular keyboard? I believe it to be bottom lower left of the keyboard 
but I am not certain as it is not spoken in keyboard help when pressed. Does it 
have to be used with a modifier key? Is it locked? If so, How do I go about 
unlocking it? Or, does that particular key not work on the IPhone? Anyone who 
knows anything about this keyboard, I’m running up a help me flag. Thanks folks.
  Ray T. Mahorney
  WA4WGA
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siri and phone calls

[Robert Wright]

Why is it that I can say hey Siri and ask it to make a call and some times it 
will respond with, “ calling on speaker” but not every time?

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Re: How Do You Stop a Notification From Repeating More Than One Time?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes I am not disputing that at all. In fact I'm in agreement with you. It 
was my understanding of what the other poster had said that this was 
available for every app in notification center. I was just reporting in that 
I understood it to be different that's all.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Shirley Baker

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How Do You Stop a Notification From Repeating More Than One 
Time?


When I went to notifications and messages, I only saw one place in there 
that said how often to repeat and one of those was repeat never but I never 
saw that in banners or badges and I did go to the bottom of the phone.

It also said show on locked screen and notification center.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,
With all due respect I only see this option under messages not with each 
individual app. I see selections for badges, sounds, banners keeping it in 
history and automatically group or not but nothing about repeating 
notifications as I said except for the messages app.

What am I missing?
This is in iOS 13.2 and on an iPhone 11 Pro Max.
Robin


-Original Message- From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 11:09 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: How Do You Stop a Notification From Repeating More Than One Time?

Hello,
If you go to settings, notifications, you’ll notice that each app has 
customizable settings for your notifications styles banners alerts etc. In 
each app if you go to the very bottom you will see, Repeat Alerts Button.
If you double tap on this button and then select never, you will only get 
one alert.


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