RE: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

2021-09-19 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hey folks, Just remember there are a lot of people on these lists that take part in the beta testing programs both developer and public user beta testers, May be ask the question to them if they have identified any of these mentioned issues Or join the beta testers list and find out more

Alternative Characters Hidden, Question About Arabic Keyboard of iPhone?

2021-09-19 Thread Fazil
Hi, Group. My question is about the Arabic Keyboard of iPhone. When I double-tap and hold a character in order to get more characters related to it, VoiceOver, sometimes, says 'Alternative Characters Hidden',. Can I unhide these hidden characters? Thanks! -- The following information is

Re: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

2021-09-19 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I don't use folders, and I have no idea what sharesheet is, but I don't think I'll be updating tomorrow either. First, I don't think my iPhone has enough space for the update. Also, I don't like the bug about the app switcher not always letting you know what apps are in it. I'll wait a little

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Not if you take in to account the new touch id buttons on the ipad air 4 and the new iPad mini, They are a touch id built in to the power button which doesn't take up any screen realestate, That's what was being meant. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Kelly Pierce
Sighted people want phones with edge to edge screens. A home button consumes valuable screen real estate that can be used for apps and videos. On 9/19/21, lenron brown wrote: > streaming doesn't always cut it. I mean we had horrible cell service > when the last hurricane came through, and it's

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread lenron brown
streaming doesn't always cut it. I mean we had horrible cell service when the last hurricane came through, and it's still messed up at times. I would rather have a nice amount of storage and that's more than 128 for sure. 256 is what my 12 pro max has. I think that's good for now but who knows

Re: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

2021-09-19 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Me too! I was realY looking forward especially to trying out the "Focus" feature! but yes I find too the bugs might interfeer with my iPhone's daily use/effectiveness, thus I tino plan to wait at least for the next update before taking the plunge. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd

Re: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

2021-09-19 Thread Dawn Bilpuch
Yeah. I agree it does look bad. A lot of the bugs I read about when I seen this seem to affect stuff I use daily if not regularly. Such as folders, the sharesheet bug, and apps not being announced in the app switcher. I don't think I'll update tomorrow either. I wish I could, because some of

Fwd: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

2021-09-19 Thread Rafał Marzec
I must say that it looks really bad Probably I will not upgrade till they will fix basic problems Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: The AppleVis Editorial Team > Date: 18 September 2021 at 8:57:43 am BST > To: bluewings1...@gmail.com > Subject: [AppleVis Newsletter] The

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah that's would be great but hell the cost is crazy, But like you the lower storage is all I need although I've got 256gb and only currently use 50 approx, Because everythings on line or streamable. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

RE: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users

2021-09-19 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Why haven't you tried riding a bike by yourself or skiing by yourself? I've done both Cycling was fine until the fence jumped out at me stopping the bike suddenly. And skiing was fine but the guide and instructors I was training got a bit concerned when I started skiing backwards telling them

Re: Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

2021-09-19 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I find the router easy to use. I don't use it all that much, but it is convenient when I do need to use it, like going to links when I receive a link in a text message. On 9/19/21, Barbara Stahl wrote: > Thanks everyone. I will try out both methods and see which works better for > me. I had no

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I don't believe it's not that they don't want it, I think it's more about they want something more up market or should I say out there in the world of different type of feature. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, 20 September

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I like my iPhone plan with Verizon. For $27 and some change, I get unlimited talk and text, and 5 gigs of data. I accidentally used a lot of that data up yesterday when watching movies. For me, data is important, because our internet is so crappy. Sometimes, our wifi just cuts out completely,

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
A couple of things I do to live with my 128G of storage and within the data limits of my plan are to leverage streaming services and cloud storage and take advantage of a wi-fi network when available. I'll download books, podcasts and music if I'm traveling and think I'll be away from wi-fi for

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Carolyn
Thanks, Richard. I understand now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Carolyn,

Re: Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

2021-09-19 Thread Barbara Stahl
Thanks everyone. I will try out both methods and see which works better for me. I had no idea you could adjust the speaking rate using the double tap and hold and then sliding your finger gesture. I typically never have the change speaking rate or volume controls on the roder because I often

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Richard Turner
Carolyn, and others, If you read about the way Seeing AI and SuperSense through their Super LIDAR app, are using this feature, it greatly enhances the ability to identify objects and give far more accurate information about how far away from you that object is. Yes, it also enhances

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Carolyn
Exactly - having same issue trying to buy mobile home, charges are extra for steps, to mention one essential. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 2:14 PM To:

RE: Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

2021-09-19 Thread Carolyn
Barbara, I had the exact, same problem. Someone told me to use the rotor, and mine is at 55. I tend to avoid the rotor like the plague. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:29

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Carolyn
Thanks, that answers my LIDAR question. I care nothing for photography; my daughter-in-love has a pro, and she's the one that really likes to take pictures. Still, Jim thinks that the iPhone has a great camera. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Carolyn
What is LIDAR. Is it an app to download or something else? I am asking, because recently I had an email from AT saying I was due an upgrade. As far an upgrade, if I could get it now, I would want the 13 mini. If I am only eligible for a 12 and wait, I am wondering if I switch from post to

Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users

2021-09-19 Thread CHELA Robles
Well the only ones that I’ve been doing this far are the ones with the heading labeled time to walk audio watch workouts. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Anna Dresner wrote: > > These are good points, Sieghard. It might be possible to do a similar Blind > alive workout

Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users

2021-09-19 Thread Anna Dresner
These are good points, Sieghard. It might be possible to do a similar Blind alive workout and then try one in Apple Fitness. there are a couple of Blind Alive pilates workouts, for example. If you did those and then tried a pilates workout in Apple Fitness, you might be able to follow it. My

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Just as any other company is charging extra for extra features whether it's a phone, a car, a computer or a barbecue, typically bigger means more money and more features means more money and bigger with more features will always cost the most; This is not a concept invented by Apple. From:

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And apparently Apple has a perfectly functioning home button with touch Id since they use it on certain iPad models including the newest iPad Mini, but I guess they don't want this for the iPhone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent:

RE: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users

2021-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And I want to drive a car, ride a bike and go downhill skiing. Actually I have done all three, but with sighted assistance. Well, I lost my sight a bit later in live so I knew how to drive and my Dad would let me drive on non-public roads after I lost my sight just for the fun of it, now after

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Kelly Pierce
Every year, Apple continues to develop a new version of touch ID. The rumor mill says the company actually created a prototype of the iPhone 13 with touch ID. Somehow, the new touch ID does not meet Apple’s standards and the team continues to develop the technology. I am not holding my breath over

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Richard Turner
IF one needs to keep a huge amount of pictures, music, books, movies, then memory is a higher priority. If one is focused on ease of picture taking, advances in object identification and location, then the camera features are a higher priority. The iPhone 13 with 512 GB is the same price as the

Re: Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

2021-09-19 Thread Arnold Schmidt
If you wish to adjust it by single digits in settings, double tap and hold, then while holding, roll your finger left and right. To borrow a phrase from a Brill Cream commercial from years ago, a little dab will do yuh, but if you are careful, you can move it by single digits. I use the setting

RE: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users

2021-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Then maybe take advantage of your 3 months because you may find it's useful after all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jenifer Barr Sent: September 19, 2021 6:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for

RE: Apple watch question

2021-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It's the watch indicating the time using vibrations. You are probably double tapping the watch when this happens whether you do it knowingly or not. If you want to do this deliverately the watch should be locked, then do a double tap without first waking up the watch, it's sometimes a bit

RE: Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

2021-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That is correct, in Voiceover settings you can double tap and hold and then drag your finger left or right and if you are doing it carefully enough you can adjust it by 1% or 2% increments. But I also find the other way where you make sure Speed is on the rotor and use the 5% increments there

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need because I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to listen to a book again I

Re: Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

2021-09-19 Thread Anthony Vece
Hello Barbara; I found that when you drag your finger very slowly this usually works. However, your motor movements need to be very very fine. Hope this helps. Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!! > On Sep 19, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: > > Yes, you can indeed

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. On 9/19/21, Michael Feir

Re: Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

2021-09-19 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Yes, you can indeed move the voice over speaking rate by 5% increments. Your speaking rate should be in your router. Once you find speaking rate, you should be able to move by 5% increments. If you go to speaking rate in voice over settings, then it would go by 10% increments. On 9/19/21,

Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

2021-09-19 Thread Barbara Stahl
Is there a way to get the voiceover speaking rate to move in 5 percent increments instead of ten? I was using my kindle app and I had VO set at 60 and it read just a bit too fast, but I could only seem to move the VO speaking rate at ten percent increments and 50 percent was too slow. --

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Michael Feir
The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for

RE: Apple watch question

2021-09-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I suspect your getting the time with the taptic time feature. The watch will vibrate the number of hours followed by the number of minutes. There's more information at Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple

RE: Apple watch question

2021-09-19 Thread Richard Turner
Could you say more about when you get those vibrations? Are they always the same? Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of dadnthed...@gmail.com

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Richard Turner
I'm very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From:

Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users

2021-09-19 Thread Devin Prater
Yeah, good luck. Apple Arcade has no games that were made with accessibility in mind. So there is precedent for them ignoring a bit of accessibility. Luckily, Eyes-free Fitness is floating around somewhere, so that resource can still be used. Sure, without the Apple Watch metric, but still,

Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users

2021-09-19 Thread CHELA Robles
Well I think someone should start a petition on change.org regarding this because Apple has to take into consideration that the disability community wants to take part in being fit and staying fit not just walking in my opinion and having the added audio descriptions like they’ve had with their

Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users

2021-09-19 Thread Jenifer Barr
Thank you for this thread. I just activated my three-month free trial. Now I know I won't be renewing. lol. Granted... I haven't tried the app yet but... Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2021, at 6:43 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Chela and thank you for the feedback. > > I don't know

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Michael Feir
I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-19 Thread Mike Arrigo
I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone

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2021-09-19 Thread dadnthedark
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Apple watch question

2021-09-19 Thread dadnthedark
I just got an Apple Watch. It is an Apple Watch 3. All working fine, but I get a vibration of three short and three long, and sometimes another three short, like an S O S. Any idea what that might be? There's no alert that pops up in relation to that. Thanks for any suggestions. -- The