RE: "a question about updating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe this is a fix in iOS 16.1 then, I am running the iOS 16.1 Public Beta and 
Siri has been working fine for the last couple of weeks identifying songs. If I 
hear a song and want to know what it is I just ask "Siri, what song is that", 
Siri will say "Let me listen" and after maybe 8 or 10 seconds I get the answer.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 2:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

Joshua, I have no need to know what song is playing on my phone. The song name 
& singer/band are there on the screen. I need to know song info when listen to 
the radio, out in public in a store/restaurant, etc.

Donna

> 
> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone 
> identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem 
> is happening though.
> 
>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
>> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another 
>> source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or 
>> computer, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, 
>> and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing 
>> with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>> 
>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening 
>>> Shazam on my
>>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>>> Siri does not.
>>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, 
>>> but you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open 
>>> Shazam instead of asking it to identify the song.
>>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Donna Casteen
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago 
>>> there was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch 
>>> running IOS 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But 
>>> if I use my iPhone 11 running
>>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any 
>>> song.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
 
 Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
 Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
 Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
 Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
 Pannel?
 And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
 lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open 
 the song right in Spotify!
 
 Gera
 Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
 
> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
> 
> escribió:
> 
> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Judge
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>> 
>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and 
>> nothing.
>> 
>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the 
>> song quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button 
>> to get the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more 
>> now that I paid attention to the Shazam screen.
>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who 
>> are having success, have that subscription?
>> 
>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

Re: Telegram Messaging App

[Wendy Lin]

I’ve tried using Telegram at least 5 times and all those times, I don’t find 
the app accessible enough, especially when it comes to Telegram groups, the 
messages are so much more cluttered comparing to being on WhatsApp and Facebook 
Messenger groups I find. Plus I don’t have many of my phone contacts using 
Telegram verses WhatsApp.

> On Oct 8, 2022, at 7:25 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> It’s been a while sense I have used Telegram. However, the last time I used 
> Telegram, I couldn’t access channels or groups. I could message people. But 
> that’s it. Maybe it has changed sense I last used it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of manyofus1...@outlook.com 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Telegram Messaging App
>  
> Telegram is accessible, but creating your account is not easy. Once you’ve 
> done that though, its very accessible. I use it a lot. Its kind of like whats 
> app. The interface is similar.
> Shirley
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
> Sent: 08 October 2022 16:51
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Telegram Messaging App
>  
> Good morning everyone,
>  
> Recently, someone mentioned something to me called Telegram. From what I’ve 
> read, it is some sort of Messaging service. Has anyone used it, or could 
> anyone give me more information about it?
> I’m a bit concerned about its accessibility with VoiceOver. I tried going 
> into it and creating what I thought might be an account, and it really didn’t 
> read things very well. At one point, I figured that there was a box where one 
> entered a phone number. It was a bit clumsy after that, but I think I created 
> an account or whatever it’s called.
> Now, I need to know how and why to use it. 
> Thanks much.
> Jim
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zoom lens query

[anthonyborg001]

Hi 

 

Can anyone explain to me how to turn off the zoom lens please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

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Re: Linked in in the iPhone

[Wendy Lin]

The Linked In app for iPhone seems ok, I think it can improve more in terms of 
accessibility.

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 5:55 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, how accessible is linked In on the iPhone?
>  
> Best,
> Leo Bado
>  
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Linked in in the iPhone

[literophilus]

Hi, how accessible is linked In on the iPhone?



Best,

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RE: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.

[R Van Lant]

I have also seen as suggestion to buy a doorbell and put the noise making side 
were you want the beacon and keep the doorbell button in your pocket.  Someone 
suggested this in a case where they were trying to find a particular driveway 
in a long row of houses.   I agree that AirTags may not be great, at least as a 
sound beacon. I read a comparison that Tiles are better for volume, but still 
probably not loud enough if the environment is loud. It just takes one 
lawnmower to make hearing anything impossible for me.





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are 
some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.

Hi Richard,

I am ever amazed by your wealth of knowledge and suggestions. This is a 
brilliant idea and I have not thought of it. I will go check this out.

Thank you!

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:07 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Beth,
> Check out the app, NaviLens which is free.
> You can request pdf files of tags you print off, then scan with NaviLens and 
> enter or record whatever text you want.
> The tags come in multiple sizes, full page, 4 on a page, 16 on a page and so 
> on.
> The full page one is scannable at at least 70 or 80 feet away.
> What I would do, is print out a full page or at least the 4 on a page, Tape 
> it on a window near the door, and when you are getting close, fire up 
> NaviLens and once it sees the label, it will lead you to it.
> 
> If your address is posted on that door, or near it, if you have a pro model 
> of the 12, 13, or 14, the new door detection feature might work as well.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are 
> some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I appreciate the discussion because I think it’s talked me out of buying 
> because there’s probably other ways I can accomplish what I need. I am 
> looking to learn where a door is in a row of townhomes where there is no 
> distinguishing landmarks or clues to know which is which. But I could at 
> least till winter put some thing audible in the house by the door like a 
> small radio or some thing that I could hear. Until I learn, which is which. 
> An AirTag would work for this, but I think there are other better solutions. 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> BetH
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 10:40 PM, The Evil Chocolate Cookie 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If you’re looking to attach it to something like a remote or anything with 
>> a big enough flat surface, a good old-fashioned piece of tape will do the 
>> trick.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 8, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Keith Kramlinger  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> I have not yet pursued getting AirTags. I do understand, however, that in 
>>> addition to the AirTag,one needs to acquire AirTag holders, so they can be 
>>> affixed to things like keychains, luggage, etc. Of course you could stuff 
>>> it inside a pocket, but this solution may not always work.
>>> This is just an FYI.
>>> If anyone is aware of third-party AirTag holding devices, I would be 
>>> interested to learn how expensive these are. I believe the ones from Apple 
>>> are not necessarily an expensive.
>>> Best, Keith USA
>>> 
>>> 
> On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
 
 As I understand it, they use the Find My app, which is totally accessible.
 
 As Sieghard says, you are the only one who can say if you need them.  I 
 personally don't need to spend $30 for one little tag to track anything.
 Perhaps if I travelled a lot and wanted to track my luggage, but even 
 then, in all the traveling I did when I was younger, my bags were only 
 lost once, and air tags wouldn't have helped since they ended up on a 
 later flight and were delivered to the hotel the next morning.
 
 
 
 
 Richard, USA.
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
 it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
 My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:31 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What 
 are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
 
 You 

Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:

Thank you all for your help, but I am missing something.  Finding the 
"extra" weather like pressure without using containers seems to be a bit 
hit or miss.  I got a good number of them a couple days ago, but am only 
finding 1 or 2  today using Barbara's instructions:  "You just slide 
your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced by days 
rather than hours. Scroll through this and then you will reach all the 
extra information like uv index, wind speed pressure visibility and so on."


I thought I would have better luck if I could add containers to the 
rotor but am not having any luck with either Barbara's instructions "You 
add containers to the roder by going to settings, accessibility, then 
roder, then select containers." or Marda's below: "In order to put items 
in the rotor you have to go to

> settings, then voiceover, then rotor."

I've never found an icon on the home screen for weather like there is 
for settings, health, etc. and begin by double tapping onWeather Widget 
Stack? my City and temperature to the right of some Verizon information 
on the status bar.   I don't know what a widget is and thought weather 
was an app


Lately, instead of saying Weather widget etc. the status bar sometimes 
says Notes widget and other times photos widget other times.  I was 
trying to work with notes the other day and may have accidentally messed 
something up.  I don't think I have even accidentally taken a 
photograph.  I want weather front and center and I don't want notes or 
photos the focus of attention.


In trying to find out what a widget is, I found some posts that referred 
to today view.  I know there can be multiple home screens and, right 
now, I seem to have 3, but today view is completely new for me.  Please, 
can someone enlighten me?



I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an SE 2020.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 10/5/2022 7:07 PM, Marda wrote:
Hi Margaret.  In order to put items in the rotor you have to go to 
settings, then voiceover, then rotor.  if you're swiping through 
settings you have to go through eight or nine of them before you get to 
rotor.  Then you have to select the things you want in the rotor.  I 
have containers in my rotor too but when I went to the rotor settings I 
didn't find that setting.  So I don't know if they still have it or 
not.  I don't know anything about containers so can't help with that. If 
you do find that setting and put it in the rotor and don't like where it 
is you can reorder items in the rotor to put the most important things 
first.  There are a whole bunch of things you can put in the rotor, 
maybe thirty or forty of them but it's probably best not to clutter the 
rotor up with too many things like you wouldn't want to have too many 
things on your desktop in your pc if you have one.  hth


Marda


On 10/5/2022 4:01 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:

Hi, All:

I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, 
but doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling. I've been 
looking for something with a little more pressure information and 
someone suggested Dark Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 
2023.  I found an old post from Richard which mentions pressure and 
some other items like moon phase that I'm interested in being on the 
native weather app.


Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to 
be heard on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me 
and I sort of understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the 
rotor for the screen that lists some of today's weather 10 day 
forecast etc. I've got Characters; Words; Headings and Speaking Rate 
on the rotor


Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I 
can get this additional weather information.


I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.

I'd be very grateful for any help.

Margaret

On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Kay,
When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the 
current conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy 
conditions from 4 pm-6pm with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.

The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air 
quality, Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, 
humidity, visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 
day forecast.


 From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I 
right flick, then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump 
into the 10 day forecast.


If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, 
Today, Saturday, Sunday, etc.

  I think that is everything that is on the screen.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." - Jane Wagner


My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Kay Malmquist

Sent: Friday, 

Re: "a question about updating

[Donna Casteen]

Joshua, I have no need to know what song is playing on my phone. The song name 
& singer/band are there on the screen. I need to know song info when listen to 
the radio, out in public in a store/restaurant, etc.

Donna

> 
> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone
> identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem
> is happening though.
> 
>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
>> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another source and
>> your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or computer, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, and
>> youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing with no
>> issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>> 
>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam
>>> on my
>>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>>> Siri does not.
>>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but
>>> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam
>>> instead of asking it to identify the song.
>>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Donna Casteen
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there
>>> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS
>>> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my
>>> iPhone 11 running
>>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any
>>> song.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
 
 Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is
 Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to
 Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
 Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control
 Pannel?
 And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the
 lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the
 song right in Spotify!
 
 Gera
 Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
 
> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen
> 
> escribió:
> 
> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again
> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I
> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Judge
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>> 
>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and
>> nothing.
>> 
>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song
>> quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get
>> the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now that
>> I paid attention to the Shazam screen.
>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who
>> are having success, have that subscription?
>> 
>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in
>> the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the 

RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

Right, the feature is intended to use the iPHone microphone and have Siri 
listen to a song not laying on your phone.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I’ve been able to indeed identify songs from the phone; for example let’s say 
I’m in Youtube Music and a song sarts playing? I keep the song playing, go to 
the Control Center’s Music Identification button, double-tap and in no time at 
all, a notification pops up with the song’s name. It even works if you’re 
wearing earbuds/headphones!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 2:34 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?  
> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another source and 
> your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or computer, 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
> Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, and 
> youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing with no 
> issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
> 
>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening 
>> Shazam on my
>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>> Siri does not.
>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but 
>> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam 
>> instead of asking it to identify the song.
>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there 
>> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 
>> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my 
>> iPhone 11 running
>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>>> Pannel?
>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the 
>>> song right in Spotify!
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>> 
 El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
 
 escribió:
 
 Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
 later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
 requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
 
 Donna
 
> 
> That's what I’m getting as well.
> 
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
> 
> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and 
> nothing.
> 
> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song 
> quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get 
> the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now 
> that I paid attention to the Shazam screen.
> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who 
> are having success, have that subscription?
> 
> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who 

Re: "a question about updating

[Gerardo Corripio]

I’ve been able to indeed identify songs from the phone; for example let’s say 
I’m in Youtube Music and a song sarts playing? I keep the song playing, go to 
the Control Center’s Music Identification button, double-tap and in no time at 
all, a notification pops up with the song’s name. It even works if you’re 
wearing earbuds/headphones!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 2:34 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?  
> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another source and 
> your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or computer, 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, and 
> youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing with no 
> issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
> 
>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam 
>> on my
>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>> Siri does not.
>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but 
>> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam 
>> instead of asking it to identify the song.
>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there 
>> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 
>> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my 
>> iPhone 11 running
>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>>> Pannel?
>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the 
>>> song right in Spotify!
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>> 
 El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
 
 escribió:
 
 Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
 later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
 requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
 
 Donna
 
> 
> That's what I’m getting as well.
> 
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
> 
> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and 
> nothing.
> 
> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song 
> quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get 
> the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now that 
> I paid attention to the Shazam screen.
> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who 
> are having success, have that subscription?
> 
> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
> the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  
> My Siri correctly identifies songs if 

Re: "a question about updating

[Mickey Quenzer]

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 2:47 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> If the song is playing on your phone, I wouldn't think you would need Siri
> to identify it.
> The point of the feature is if you are listening, say to a car radio, and
> don't know a song, you can ask Siri to identify it.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original  now that I have the latest beta, I am not able to use the
> feature again. Luckily I haven’t got rid of the entry in Feedback so maybe
> they’ll fix it again!

However, it doesn’t look like they’ve seen it because it still shows update
> as open and no other issues like it so I’m disappointed and not sure how to
> fix the problem. Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone
> identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem is
> happening though.
>
> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> > Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
> > I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another
> > source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or
> computer, 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard, USA.
> > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it.”
> >  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> >
> > My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> > Joshua Hendrickson
> > Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> >
> > I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music,
> > and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing
> > with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of
> IOS.
> >
> > On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> >> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening
> >> Shazam on my
> >> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
> >> Siri does not.
> >> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but
> >> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam
> >> instead of asking it to identify the song.
> >> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard, USA.
> >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
> >> with it.”
> >>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> >>
> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> >> Of Donna Casteen
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> >>
> >> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there
> >> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS
> >> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my
> >> iPhone 11 running
> >> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any
> >> song.
> >>
> >> Donna
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is
> >>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to
> >>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
> >>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control
> >>> Pannel?
> >>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the
> >>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the
> >>> song right in Spotify!
> >>>
> >>> Gera
> >>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> >>>
>  El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen
>  
>  escribió:
> 
>  Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again
>  later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I
>  requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
> 
>  Donna
> 
> >
> > That's what I’m getting as well.
> >
> >
> > Chris Judge
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> > Behalf Of Richard Turner
> > Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: "a question about updating
> >
> > All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
> > I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and
> > nothing.
> >
> > However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song
> > quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get
> > the 

RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

If the song is playing on your phone, I wouldn't think you would need Siri to 
identify it.
The point of the feature is if you are listening, say to a car radio, and don't 
know a song, you can ask Siri to identify it.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone identify 
songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem is happening 
though.

On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another 
> source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or 
> computer, 
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, 
> and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing 
> with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>
> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening 
>> Shazam on my
>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>> Siri does not.
>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but 
>> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam 
>> instead of asking it to identify the song.
>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>
>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there 
>> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 
>> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my 
>> iPhone 11 running
>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any 
>> song.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>>>
>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>>> Pannel?
>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the 
>>> song right in Spotify!
>>>
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>
 El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
 
 escribió:

 Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
 later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
 requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.

 Donna

>
> That's what I’m getting as well.
>
>
> Chris Judge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>
> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and 
> nothing.
>
> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song 
> quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get 
> the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now 
> that I paid attention to the Shazam screen.
> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who 
> are having success, have that subscription?
>
> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
> the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-

Re: "a question about updating

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone
identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem
is happening though.

On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another source and
> your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or computer, 
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, and
> youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing with no
> issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>
> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam
>> on my
>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>> Siri does not.
>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but
>> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam
>> instead of asking it to identify the song.
>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>> it.”
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>
>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there
>> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS
>> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my
>> iPhone 11 running
>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any
>> song.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>>>
>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is
>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to
>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control
>>> Pannel?
>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the
>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the
>>> song right in Spotify!
>>>
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>
 El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen
 
 escribió:

 Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again
 later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I
 requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.

 Donna

>
> That's what I’m getting as well.
>
>
> Chris Judge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>
> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and
> nothing.
>
> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song
> quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get
> the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now that
> I paid attention to the Shazam screen.
> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who
> are having success, have that subscription?
>
> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in
> the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
> My Siri correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is
> playing, she gives me the correct answer.  I think the song has to
> be actually playing when you ask her the question to work
> correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri to Hang up on a call
> and it works correctly as well.
>
 On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> I just 

RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

Are you talking about music playing on your phone?  
I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another source and 
your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or computer, 





Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, and 
youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing with no 
issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.

On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam 
> on my
> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
> Siri does not.
> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but 
> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam 
> instead of asking it to identify the song.
> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there 
> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 
> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my 
> iPhone 11 running
> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>> Pannel?
>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the 
>> song right in Spotify!
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>
>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
>>> 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
>>> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
>>> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>

 That's what I’m getting as well.


 Chris Judge


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: "a question about updating

 All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
 I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and 
 nothing.

 However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song 
 quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get 
 the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now that 
 I paid attention to the Shazam screen.
 Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who 
 are having success, have that subscription?

 Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.




 Richard, USA.
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
 with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
 the Universe

 My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Joshua Hendrickson
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: "a question about updating

 I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  
 My Siri correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is 
 playing, she gives me the correct answer.  I think the song has to 
 be actually playing when you ask her the question to work 
 correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri to Hang up on a call 
 and it works correctly as well.

>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, 
>> the iPhone SE
>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was 
>> called the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, 
>> the SE 2022, i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st 
>> gen was the smaller 

Re: "a question about updating

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music,
and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing
with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of
IOS.

On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam on my
> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
> Siri does not.
> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but you
> can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam instead of
> asking it to identify the song.
> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
> Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there was an
> update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 9, Siri will
> immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my iPhone 11 running
> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is Siri
>> linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to Spotify, thus
>> don’t know if this would make a difference.
>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control
>> Pannel?
>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the lyrics,
>> you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the song right in
>> Spotify!
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>
>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again later. If
>>> I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I requested Siri on
>>> my phone to identify every time.
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>

 That's what I’m getting as well.


 Chris Judge


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: "a question about updating

 All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
 I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and
 nothing.

 However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song
 quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the
 lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid
 attention to the Shazam screen.
 Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are
 having success, have that subscription?

 Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.




 Richard, USA.
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
 with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in
 the Universe

 My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
 Of Joshua Hendrickson
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: "a question about updating

 I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My
 Siri correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she
 gives me the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually
 playing when you ask her the question to work correctly.  I have also
 been able to tell Siri to Hang up on a call and it works correctly as
 well.

>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the
>> iPhone SE
>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was
>> called the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year,
>> the SE 2022, i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st
>> gen was the smaller one released in 2016, which apparently is not what
>> they have after all.
>>
>> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>>
>> There was no SE in 2021.
>>
>> I hope that is all sorted now.
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>> with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
>> Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf Of Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
>> To: 

RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam on my 13 
pro identifies the song immediately.
Siri does not.
So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but you can 
get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam instead of asking 
it to identify the song.
At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there was an 
update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 9, Siri will 
immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my iPhone 11 running 16.02 
& the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.

Donna
 
> 
> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is Siri 
> linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to Spotify, thus 
> don’t know if this would make a difference.
> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control Pannel?
> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the lyrics, you’ve 
> got to link it first), you get the chance to open the song right in Spotify!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again later. If I 
>> use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I requested Siri on my 
>> phone to identify every time.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris Judge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.
>>> 
>>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly. 
>>>  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the 
>>> song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the 
>>> Shazam screen.
>>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are 
>>> having success, have that subscription?
>>> 
>>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
>>> correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me 
>>> the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you 
>>> ask her the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri 
>>> to Hang up on a call and it works correctly as well.
>>> 
>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
> iPhone SE
> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was 
> called the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, 
> the SE 2022, i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st 
> gen was the smaller one released in 2016, which apparently is not what 
> they have after all.
> 
> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
> 
> There was no SE in 2021.
> 
> I hope that is all sorted now.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
> it.”
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
> Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Donna Casteen
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
> iPhone Se
> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> One word answers are 

Re: "a question about updating

[Donna Casteen]

Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there was an 
update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 9, Siri will 
immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my iPhone 11 running 16.02 
& the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.

Donna
 
> 
> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is Siri 
> linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to Spotify, thus 
> don’t know if this would make a difference.
> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control Pannel?
> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the lyrics, you’ve 
> got to link it first), you get the chance to open the song right in Spotify!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again later. If I 
>> use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I requested Siri on my 
>> phone to identify every time.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris Judge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.
>>> 
>>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly. 
>>>  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the 
>>> song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the 
>>> Shazam screen.
>>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are 
>>> having success, have that subscription?
>>> 
>>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
>>> correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me 
>>> the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you 
>>> ask her the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri 
>>> to Hang up on a call and it works correctly as well.
>>> 
>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
> iPhone SE
> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
> 
> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
> 
> There was no SE in 2021.
> 
> I hope that is all sorted now.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
> it.”
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
> iPhone Se
> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones 
>> mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>> the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mr Ed
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>> 
>> Yes
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM

Hokusai multitrack recording

[Richard Turner]

Has anyone on here used the app, Hokusai, for multitrack recording and in 
particular, the panning feature?

 

The basic app is free and seems to work well with VoiceOver.  IN fact, they 
have very specific comments about the features they made accessible to 
VoiceOver in their user guide.

I would consider the $9.99 in-app purchase for the extra features, but it is 
really the panning feature I am most interested it so wanted to know if anyone 
used that successfully with VoiceOver.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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Re: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.

[Beth G]

Hi Richard,

I am ever amazed by your wealth of knowledge and suggestions. This is a 
brilliant idea and I have not thought of it. I will go check this out.

Thank you!

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:07 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Beth,
> Check out the app, NaviLens which is free.
> You can request pdf files of tags you print off, then scan with NaviLens and 
> enter or record whatever text you want.
> The tags come in multiple sizes, full page, 4 on a page, 16 on a page and so 
> on.
> The full page one is scannable at at least 70 or 80 feet away.
> What I would do, is print out a full page or at least the 4 on a page, Tape 
> it on a window near the door, and when you are getting close, fire up 
> NaviLens and once it sees the label, it will lead you to it.
> 
> If your address is posted on that door, or near it, if you have a pro model 
> of the 12, 13, or 14, the new door detection feature might work as well.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are 
> some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I appreciate the discussion because I think it’s talked me out of buying 
> because there’s probably other ways I can accomplish what I need. I am 
> looking to learn where a door is in a row of townhomes where there is no 
> distinguishing landmarks or clues to know which is which. But I could at 
> least till winter put some thing audible in the house by the door like a 
> small radio or some thing that I could hear. Until I learn, which is which. 
> An AirTag would work for this, but I think there are other better solutions. 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> BetH
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 10:40 PM, The Evil Chocolate Cookie 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If you’re looking to attach it to something like a remote or anything with 
>> a big enough flat surface, a good old-fashioned piece of tape will do the 
>> trick.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 8, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Keith Kramlinger  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> I have not yet pursued getting AirTags. I do understand, however, that in 
>>> addition to the AirTag,one needs to acquire AirTag holders, so they can be 
>>> affixed to things like keychains, luggage, etc. Of course you could stuff 
>>> it inside a pocket, but this solution may not always work.
>>> This is just an FYI.
>>> If anyone is aware of third-party AirTag holding devices, I would be 
>>> interested to learn how expensive these are. I believe the ones from Apple 
>>> are not necessarily an expensive.
>>> Best, Keith USA
>>> 
>>> 
> On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
 
 As I understand it, they use the Find My app, which is totally accessible.
 
 As Sieghard says, you are the only one who can say if you need them.  I 
 personally don't need to spend $30 for one little tag to track anything.
 Perhaps if I travelled a lot and wanted to track my luggage, but even 
 then, in all the traveling I did when I was younger, my bags were only 
 lost once, and air tags wouldn't have helped since they ended up on a 
 later flight and were delivered to the hotel the next morning.
 
 
 
 
 Richard, USA.
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
 it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
 My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:31 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What 
 are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
 
 You are the only person who would know if you have a use for them. Just 
 ask yourself why you need them? Do you have things you want to keep track 
 of? Do you travel a lot and want to use them in your suitcase?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Beth G
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 6:23 AM
 To: via VIPhone 
 Subject: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are 
 some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
 
 Hello group,
 
 The subject line says it. And go!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Beth
 
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Re: Tracking steps on iPhone

[Wayne Merritt]

In order to look day by day, you need to double tap the Week button in the Steps screen of the Health app. Once you do this, you will be able to look at each day and see the total steps in that day. Regards, Wayne MerrittSent from my iPhone 13 ProCheck out my GoodReads page:http://goodreads.com/waynesbooksOn Oct 8, 2022, at 8:45 PM, h.begum99 via VIPhone  wrote:Hi, So is there a good accessible free app to get step count because before the health app used to be good at doing this an you could look day by day to see the step count e.g. see how many steps you did last Monday but now it just seems to give a little comparison and you can’t check day by day. Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: 08 October 2022 23:14To: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Tracking steps on iPhone Yes it can track your steps.Probably best to have it in the front pocket; but I believe it uses distance traveled not just motion, so carrying it in a bag shouldn't matter.In health, select the browse tab, and then the profile button in the very top.Fill out all the information.You can opt to share it or not.I think after you have the profile filled out, and selected what you want for notifications, the summary should include activity at the bottom of the screen which will include steps.If you double tap on steps you can select day, week, month, year  Or, install Pedometer++ and try it out.   Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com On Oct 8, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Tom Cramer  wrote:Hello,RecentlyI'm going to be in a situation where I and others will bekeeping track of daily steps to see who can get the most after a monthor something.I was told that my iPhone can keep track of my steps and that it wouldbe in the health app.What do I have to do because when I go there, there is no activityregistered and I have my phone with me all the time.Do I also need to keep my phone on a certain way to record my steps?Hope someone knows what I need to do.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPr-VTo1ao1WjTiNW5iMU5sucBM0db-AGSLDbYm9WjrQSGn3Pw%40mail.gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2A83514F-C09C-44F7-B5A7-723288198E4F%40comcast.net.



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RE: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.

[Richard Turner]

Beth,
Check out the app, NaviLens which is free.
You can request pdf files of tags you print off, then scan with NaviLens and 
enter or record whatever text you want.
The tags come in multiple sizes, full page, 4 on a page, 16 on a page and so on.
The full page one is scannable at at least 70 or 80 feet away.
What I would do, is print out a full page or at least the 4 on a page, Tape it 
on a window near the door, and when you are getting close, fire up NaviLens and 
once it sees the label, it will lead you to it.

If your address is posted on that door, or near it, if you have a pro model of 
the 12, 13, or 14, the new door detection feature might work as well.

HTH,



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are 
some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.

Hi,

I appreciate the discussion because I think it’s talked me out of buying 
because there’s probably other ways I can accomplish what I need. I am looking 
to learn where a door is in a row of townhomes where there is no distinguishing 
landmarks or clues to know which is which. But I could at least till winter put 
some thing audible in the house by the door like a small radio or some thing 
that I could hear. Until I learn, which is which. An AirTag would work for 
this, but I think there are other better solutions. 

Thank you,

BetH

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2022, at 10:40 PM, The Evil Chocolate Cookie 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you’re looking to attach it to something like a remote or anything with a 
> big enough flat surface, a good old-fashioned piece of tape will do the trick.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Keith Kramlinger  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> I have not yet pursued getting AirTags. I do understand, however, that in 
>> addition to the AirTag,one needs to acquire AirTag holders, so they can be 
>> affixed to things like keychains, luggage, etc. Of course you could stuff it 
>> inside a pocket, but this solution may not always work.
>> This is just an FYI.
>> If anyone is aware of third-party AirTag holding devices, I would be 
>> interested to learn how expensive these are. I believe the ones from Apple 
>> are not necessarily an expensive.
>> Best, Keith USA
>> 
>> 
 On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> As I understand it, they use the Find My app, which is totally accessible.
>>> 
>>> As Sieghard says, you are the only one who can say if you need them.  I 
>>> personally don't need to spend $30 for one little tag to track anything.
>>> Perhaps if I travelled a lot and wanted to track my luggage, but even then, 
>>> in all the traveling I did when I was younger, my bags were only lost once, 
>>> and air tags wouldn't have helped since they ended up on a later flight and 
>>> were delivered to the hotel the next morning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:31 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What 
>>> are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
>>> 
>>> You are the only person who would know if you have a use for them. Just ask 
>>> yourself why you need them? Do you have things you want to keep track of? 
>>> Do you travel a lot and want to use them in your suitcase?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth 
>>> G
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 6:23 AM
>>> To: via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are 
>>> some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
>>> 
>>> Hello group,
>>> 
>>> The subject line says it. And go!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Beth
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.

[The Evil Chocolate Cookie]

Your idea would probably work a lot better, especially if you’re dealing with a 
lot of background noise. The AirTags don’t hold up well to background noise, so 
you may want to use something louder.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Beth G  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I appreciate the discussion because I think it’s talked me out of buying 
> because there’s probably other ways I can accomplish what I need. I am 
> looking to learn where a door is in a row of townhomes where there is no 
> distinguishing landmarks or clues to know which is which. But I could at 
> least till winter put some thing audible in the house by the door like a 
> small radio or some thing that I could hear. Until I learn, which is which. 
> An AirTag would work for this, but I think there are other better solutions. 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> BetH
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 10:40 PM, The Evil Chocolate Cookie 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If you’re looking to attach it to something like a remote or anything with 
>> a big enough flat surface, a good old-fashioned piece of tape will do the 
>> trick.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 8, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Keith Kramlinger  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> I have not yet pursued getting AirTags. I do understand, however, that in 
>>> addition to the AirTag,one needs to acquire AirTag holders, so they can be 
>>> affixed to things like keychains, luggage, etc. Of course you could stuff 
>>> it inside a pocket, but this solution may not always work.
>>> This is just an FYI.
>>> If anyone is aware of third-party AirTag holding devices, I would be 
>>> interested to learn how expensive these are. I believe the ones from Apple 
>>> are not necessarily an expensive.
>>> Best, Keith USA
>>> 
>>> 
> On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
 
 As I understand it, they use the Find My app, which is totally accessible.
 
 As Sieghard says, you are the only one who can say if you need them.  I 
 personally don't need to spend $30 for one little tag to track anything.
 Perhaps if I travelled a lot and wanted to track my luggage, but even 
 then, in all the traveling I did when I was younger, my bags were only 
 lost once, and air tags wouldn't have helped since they ended up on a 
 later flight and were delivered to the hotel the next morning.
 
 
 
 
 Richard, USA.
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
 it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
 My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:31 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What 
 are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
 
 You are the only person who would know if you have a use for them. Just 
 ask yourself why you need them? Do you have things you want to keep track 
 of? Do you travel a lot and want to use them in your suitcase?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Beth G
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 6:23 AM
 To: via VIPhone 
 Subject: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are 
 some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
 
 Hello group,
 
 The subject line says it. And go!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Beth
 
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Re: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.

[Beth G]

Hi,

I appreciate the discussion because I think it’s talked me out of buying 
because there’s probably other ways I can accomplish what I need. I am looking 
to learn where a door is in a row of townhomes where there is no distinguishing 
landmarks or clues to know which is which. But I could at least till winter put 
some thing audible in the house by the door like a small radio or some thing 
that I could hear. Until I learn, which is which. An AirTag would work for 
this, but I think there are other better solutions. 

Thank you,

BetH

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2022, at 10:40 PM, The Evil Chocolate Cookie 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you’re looking to attach it to something like a remote or anything with a 
> big enough flat surface, a good old-fashioned piece of tape will do the trick.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Keith Kramlinger  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> I have not yet pursued getting AirTags. I do understand, however, that in 
>> addition to the AirTag,one needs to acquire AirTag holders, so they can be 
>> affixed to things like keychains, luggage, etc. Of course you could stuff it 
>> inside a pocket, but this solution may not always work.
>> This is just an FYI.
>> If anyone is aware of third-party AirTag holding devices, I would be 
>> interested to learn how expensive these are. I believe the ones from Apple 
>> are not necessarily an expensive.
>> Best, Keith USA
>> 
>> 
 On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> As I understand it, they use the Find My app, which is totally accessible.
>>> 
>>> As Sieghard says, you are the only one who can say if you need them.  I 
>>> personally don't need to spend $30 for one little tag to track anything.
>>> Perhaps if I travelled a lot and wanted to track my luggage, but even then, 
>>> in all the traveling I did when I was younger, my bags were only lost once, 
>>> and air tags wouldn't have helped since they ended up on a later flight and 
>>> were delivered to the hotel the next morning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:31 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What 
>>> are some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
>>> 
>>> You are the only person who would know if you have a use for them. Just ask 
>>> yourself why you need them? Do you have things you want to keep track of? 
>>> Do you travel a lot and want to use them in your suitcase?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth 
>>> G
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 6:23 AM
>>> To: via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: Considering buying AirTags. How accessible is the app? What are 
>>> some good uses for them? Talked me into buying. Lol.
>>> 
>>> Hello group,
>>> 
>>> The subject line says it. And go!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Beth
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Unable to rename a playlist in apple music

[Kimberly Gardner]

Hi all,

I think this problem has been around for a couple of iOS releases now.

Using voiceover on my iPhone, I am unable to edit/change the title of
playlists. It doesn't matter if it is a playlist I created myself or a
new playlist I am attempting to create. I double tap the field
containing the name of the playlist I am unable to navigate by
character or to delete whatever name is in the field. By positioning
the cursor at the beginning of the field I am able to type additional
characters in front of any existing text, but I can't otherwise edit
the name.

Does anyone have a solution for this problem? It makes managing my
playlists really difficult.

Thanks for any info.

Kim

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Re: "a question about updating

[Gerardo Corripio]

Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is Siri linked 
to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to Spotify, thus don’t know 
if this would make a difference.
Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control Pannel?
And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the lyrics, you’ve 
got to link it first), you get the chance to open the song right in Spotify!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen  
> escribió:
> 
> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again later. If I 
> use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I requested Siri on my 
> phone to identify every time.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Judge
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>> 
>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.
>> 
>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly.  
>> And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the 
>> song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the 
>> Shazam screen.
>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are having 
>> success, have that subscription?
>> 
>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
>> correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me 
>> the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you 
>> ask her the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri 
>> to Hang up on a call and it works correctly as well.
>> 
 On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
>>> iPhone SE
>>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
>>> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
>>> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
>>> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>>> 
>>> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>>> 
>>> There was no SE in 2021.
>>> 
>>> I hope that is all sorted now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Donna Casteen
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
>>> iPhone Se
>>> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
>>> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
 
 One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones 
 mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
 
 
 
 
 Richard, USA.
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
 with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
 the Universe
 
 My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Mr Ed
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: "a question about updating
 
 Yes
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Lelia Struve
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
 To: Viphone 
 Subject: "a question about updating
 
 Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first 
 gen, or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
 
 Lelia
 
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Re: "a question about updating

[Donna Casteen]

Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again later. If I use 
my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I requested Siri on my phone to 
identify every time.

Donna

> 
> That's what I’m getting as well.
> 
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
> 
> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.
> 
> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly.  
> And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the 
> song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the 
> Shazam screen.
> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are having 
> success, have that subscription?
> 
> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
> correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me 
> the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you ask 
> her the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri to 
> Hang up on a call and it works correctly as well.
> 
>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
>> iPhone SE
>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
>> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
>> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
>> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>> 
>> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>> 
>> There was no SE in 2021.
>> 
>> I hope that is all sorted now.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
>> iPhone Se
>> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
>> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones 
>>> mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mr Ed
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Yes
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Lelia Struve
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
>>> To: Viphone 
>>> Subject: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first 
>>> gen, or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Lelia
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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IOS 16 & Identifying music

[Gerardo Corripio]

Some of you have been talking about in the thread entitled “Updating Questions” 
how some of you’ll have trouble identifying songs using iOS16’s Siri/Shazam 
integration? My experiences not being subscribed t Apple Music, but do have 
Spotify linked with Siri (I don’t know if this is the trick to all of this), 
but yesterday evening while at the grocery store (HEB) with my parents, I 
identified several songs playing over the AP,without issues! I did this through 
the route f going to Contorl Center, and double-tapping the associated icon. 
Hope this helps some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: "a question about updating

[Gerardo Corripio]

While at the grocery store with my parents last night, I identified several 
songs playing over the AP system without issues! I did it through the icon one 
has within the Control Center. Hope this helps some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:08 a.m., chrisjudge1...@gmail.com escribió:
> 
> That's what I’m getting as well.
> 
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
> 
> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.
> 
> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly.  
> And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the 
> song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the 
> Shazam screen.
> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are having 
> success, have that subscription?
> 
> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
> correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me 
> the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you ask 
> her the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri to 
> Hang up on a call and it works correctly as well.
> 
>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
>> iPhone SE
>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
>> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
>> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
>> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>> 
>> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>> 
>> There was no SE in 2021.
>> 
>> I hope that is all sorted now.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
>> iPhone Se
>> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
>> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones 
>>> mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mr Ed
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Yes
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Lelia Struve
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
>>> To: Viphone 
>>> Subject: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first 
>>> gen, or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Lelia
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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RE: "a question about updating

[chrisjudge1967]

That's what I’m getting as well.


Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "a question about updating

All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.

However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly.  
And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the song. 
 That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the Shazam 
screen.
Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are having 
success, have that subscription?

Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me the 
correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you ask her 
the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri to Hang up 
on a call and it works correctly as well.

On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
> iPhone SE
> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>
> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>
> There was no SE in 2021.
>
> I hope that is all sorted now.
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
> iPhone Se
> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones 
>> mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>> the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mr Ed
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: "a question about updating
>>
>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first 
>> gen, or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
>>
>> Lelia
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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