Re: SuperSense AI has an update: don't get excited

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I need to start using envision AI more. I use superSense often but lately end 
up going to either Seeing AI or AIRA out of frustration. I purchased SuperSense 
at a Convention several years ago after a live presentation full of promises.  
I”m wondering when a host of new promised features will appear with a new 
subscription model. Such as we have been recently seeing.
Merv


> On May 14, 2024, at 4:08 AM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> I also enjoy envision AI. Esther.
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
>> On May 13, 2024, at 4:39 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Well, I am about ready to delete the app since Envision AI, which is free, 
>> does as good a job with bar codes, which is my primary use of SuperSense. 
>> This BS about them always promising exciting new features has gone on long 
>> enough. And, they never reply to emails sent to them. 
>> Here is what the update says:
>> Hello, Below are the latest updates and improvements in this release: 1) 
>> Minor UI changes and bug fixes for a faster and more stable experience. More 
>> exciting news and features are on the way! As always, we appreciate any 
>> feedback to provide our users with the best solutions. Please let us know 
>> what you think about Supersense by sending your thoughts to 
>> superse...@mediate.tech. Best, Supersense Team
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
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Re: Family Sharing with Voice Dream Subscription

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I wrote to support and I ham waiting for a reply. I am not clear if I have 
Family Sharing available as an option or not. It is showing  in my list of 
third party apps even after everything has been updated and rebooted.
Merv


> On Apr 1, 2024, at 1:41 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately the App Store is deceiving regarding this.
> 
> It will display the logo if any of in-app purchases or subscriptions supports 
> this.
> 
> So it is entirely possible that what you reported is correct - there are 
> other in-app purchases from the old version of the app that have Family 
> sharing set to on, which is enough to enable displaying of the logo in the 
> App Store.
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 4:38:50 PM UTC+2 Mervin Keck III wrote:
>> Greetings: 
>> This is not to debate the new subscription plan. This is a question 
>> regarding Family Sharing on the iPhone. And I am going to email support as 
>> soon as I send this message. 
>> Last evening I subscribed to the annual plan $59.95 on my iPhone 14 Pro Max. 
>> I have Family Sharing turned on and my wife and I both have sharing enabled. 
>> We share the 2TB plan with Apple. But we have not been able to see third 
>> party apps such as VDR or the other apps that I am supposed to have 
>> available for family sharing. 
>> 
>> According to my settings I have all the boxes checked. My wife has sharing 
>> enabled as well. I am wondering if there is something we are missing? 
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> Merv 
>> 
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Family Sharing with Voice Dream Subscription

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Greetings:
This is not to debate the new subscription plan. This is a question regarding 
Family Sharing on the iPhone. And I am going to email support as soon as I send 
this message.
Last evening I subscribed to the annual plan $59.95 on my iPhone 14 Pro Max. I 
have Family Sharing turned on and my wife and I both have sharing enabled. We 
share the 2TB plan with Apple. But we have not been able to see third party 
apps such as VDR or the other apps that I am supposed to have available for 
family sharing.

According to my settings I have all the boxes checked. My wife has sharing 
enabled as well. I am wondering if there is something we are missing?
Thanks in advance.
Merv

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Re: latest updates from supersense

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I have always liked the ability to make custom labels. I use some grocery items 
that do not have barcodes available. Once I make the custom label it generally 
sticks. Only once have I lost a custom label after an app update. I should 
really begin getting more mileage out of the app. Especially since the latest 
improvements. I have always liked it especially for the barcodes.
Merv


> On Mar 29, 2024, at 11:22 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> I have recently tried the scan text feature and it really works well.  When 
> you scan a document you get a summary and a description of what the document 
> is before the document itself which is really useful.
> 
> One thing that sets SuperSense appart in my view is its guidance when 
> scanning documents.  Telling the user that not all edges are visible is not 
> really too helpful.  SuperSense on the other hand advises you how to move 
> your device to get all the text in the camera’s frame.
> 
> I know that we’ve quite rightly been critical of this app in the past, but 
> credit where it is due they’ve really made some improvements in recent 
> months.  Whether the price is worth paying is debatable but they deserve 
> credit for recent developments.
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 29 Mar 2024, at 3:10 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi merv,
>> Well, the AI is new.  Finally a feature that is very good.  I just tried the 
>> Barcode channel on a couple things that got excellent results.
>> I will play with the AI for scanned text later.  
>> BTW, they already have a subscription option, so I very much doubt they will 
>> change the over priced one-time charge...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." 
>> -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 7:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: latest updates from supersense
>> 
>> I was playing with the AI last night and this morning. While I have not used 
>> this app much recently so I honestly do not remember if it always had AI in 
>> the title as it does now, the feature that allows the individual to scan a 
>> barcode, then ask questions based on the description works pretty well.
>> I would still like to see a few more improvements. As long as they don’t 
>> change to an annual subscription for those of us who purchased the lifetime 
>> subscription.
>> Merv
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2024, at 10:18 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>> 
>>> enjoy these wonderful updates lol
>>> 
>>> Hello, We've received many requests from our users and are responding to 
>>> them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to 
>>> announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Minor bug fixes 
>>> about translate language screen More exciting news and features are on the 
>>> way! As always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the 
>>> best solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by 
>>> sending your thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech. Best, Supersense Team
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dennis Long
>>> Sent from my iPhone 15  Pro Max
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Re: latest updates from supersense

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I was playing with the AI last night and this morning. While I have not used 
this app much recently so I honestly do not remember if it always had AI in the 
title as it does now, the feature that allows the individual to scan a barcode, 
then ask questions based on the description works pretty well.
I would still like to see a few more improvements. As long as they don’t change 
to an annual subscription for those of us who purchased the lifetime 
subscription.
Merv


> On Mar 28, 2024, at 10:18 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> enjoy these wonderful updates lol 
> 
> Hello, We've received many requests from our users and are responding to them 
> with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to announce 
> the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Minor bug fixes about 
> translate language screen More exciting news and features are on the way! As 
> always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best 
> solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your 
> thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech. Best, Supersense Team
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone 15  Pro Max
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Re: macbook

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Are you talking about V O Shift O? That brings up control Center on the Mac.
Merv


> On Dec 9, 2023, at 8:30 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> You know how like on an Iphone you can get to 
> brightness and where you want to send audio output? That thing is what I want 
> to get to. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Tom Rash
> Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 6:42 AM
> To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: macbook
>  
> Notification screen is control option N.  Not sure what you mean by control 
> center.  
>  
> 
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2023, at 7:37 AM, Star Gazer > > wrote:
>>  
>> Thanks. What about the notification screen and the control center? I’ll get 
>> this figured out. 
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Tom Rash
>> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2023 5:56 AM
>> To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: macbook
>>  
>> Try shift control option D.
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2023, at 4:38 AM, Star Gazer >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> It does. Hardest part is getting my brain not to think it’s a pc, something 
>>> I had to explain to my kid. 
>>> How do I get to what I think of as the start menu, I want to getto the 
>>> place where I see all the icons and haven’t figured out how to do it. Tab 
>>> and alt tab work like I’m used to. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 4:12 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: macbook
>>>  
>>> Hello, arrow keys won't work how you're expecting them to work. And places 
>>> where you find them not working, turn on quick navigation by pressing the 
>>> left and right arrows together. Then you can use the up-and-down arrows, or 
>>> the left and right arrows to navigate whatever you're wanting to navigate. 
>>> I hope this helps you and your new MacBook experience.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>>  
>>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
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>>> Connect with me on zoom
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 6, 2023, at 3:06 PM, Star Gazer >>> > wrote:
  
 My kid got one and I want to learn how to use it. Speciffically, the arrow 
 keys that normally work on a pc don’t work when reading on the mac. What 
 does? I’d like to read line by line with the ability to look at words and 
 charactors like I do with my pc. 
 I love my IPhone now I’m trying to get smart with the macbook. 
 Any ideas?
  
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Re: Question about the Vesync app

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Cosori Pro 3 Air Fryer 
Merv


> On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:17 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
> 
> What is the name of the air fryer that you guys are using with the Vesync 
> app. I looked for it on amazon but didn’t find anything called Vesync. This 
> air fryer sound interesting. Thanks 
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2023, at 4:44 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Rick, I think sometimes my messages are not coming through or 
>> something. I had sent a note saying I found them on the Amazon site just 
>> before we ordered it. They list 9.4 by 9.4 by 4.8 deep. Close enough to your 
>> measurements. Thanks again. 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>>  
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard and others,
>>> 
>>> In case you haven't gotten the inner dimensions of the pan yet, here they 
>>> are as per my tape king.
>>> The handled pan is 9.58 inches square by 4.8 inches deep without the 
>>> crisper tray. The crisper tray is inserted at the bottom of the pan and has 
>>> holes in it to allow for grease or liquid through to the bottom if desired.
>>> 
>>> This was just a quick measurement so probably not as precise it as it could 
>>> be but it should give you a good idea.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Warmest regards,
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>> rick.alf...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 11:42 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app
>>> 
>>> Well, they do not recommend more than one layer as the air has to be able 
>>> to circulate around the food.
>>> When they are talking chicken wings, I suspect they mean the kind you would 
>>> get at a bar, which only has the meaty portion and not the little flat wing 
>>> section.
>>> And since I don't do chicken wings, I don't really know about their sizes.
>>> But, yes, the large basket is geared probably for larger items, including 
>>> their cake pan, bread pan, pizza pan ... we can do enough sweet potato 
>>> fries or pot stickers for two in ours which I think may be a little smaller 
>>> than yours.
>>> 
>>> I'd appreciate it if you could get the size of the basket at some point.  
>>> NO hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA
>>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get 
>>> it.”
>>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>> 
>>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
>>> 2024.2310.70.400
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:37 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Question about the Vesync app
>>> 
>>> Sorry, richard. I don’t know the inner dimensions of the pan yet. Can’t 
>>> find it anywhere online, and I forgot to ask my sided spouse, but I shall 
>>> do so later today. Also, and I guess this is really getting off-topic, 
>>> since it’s not a technical question. What the heck is the point of this big 
>>> pan/basket if you’re only supposed to put food in one layer? I get how you 
>>> could do a chicken, a whole big piece of meat whatever.but is it really 
>>> true that even with the two burners you should only put one layer? The pan 
>>> is substantially smaller than a sheet pan, so a whole bunch of chicken 
>>> wings for instance, which they say you can do, how? You probably couldn’t 
>>> put more than maybe four big chicken wings in that basket in one layer. 
>>> That’s a far cry from I think 17 that they advertised. I don’t get it.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 22, 2023, at 6:45 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Good to know Rick.
 We probably should get that one, as ours is one of the recalled models, 
 but it has been working fine but we know we are using it at our own risk.  
 My wife cannot imagine being without one for 6 weeks or more if we go 
 through the replacement process by cutting the cord and submitting a 
 picture and waiting until they send us a replacement, which likely would 
 not be the 2 burner model...
 Christmas is coming. 
 
 
 
 
 Richard, USA
 “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
 stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell 
 to get it.”
 -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
 My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 
 Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS
 version 2024.2310.70.400
 
 
 -Original Message-
 

Re: Question about the Vesync app

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Hi,
I went into the Vesync app and into Forums in hopes of asking for the inner 
dimensions of the basket on the Cosori 3. However, on the iPhone 14 Pro Max I 
could not see anything for the most part but unlabeled buttons. I will have to 
do a bit of research on their web site and see if I can contact customer 
service and ask.

Nicki and I usually layer boneless wings across the bottom. As a rule I don’t 
pile anything up even if it is jalapeño poppers. Or potato wedges. One of these 
days I’m going to try getting some of those fresh red potatoes like I used to 
get back when I had vision years ago and some sweet onions and see if I can 
make some good homemade home fries. The kind us old country people used to make 
for breakfast.
Merv


> On Nov 22, 2023, at 11:42 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, they do not recommend more than one layer as the air has to be able to 
> circulate around the food.
> When they are talking chicken wings, I suspect they mean the kind you would 
> get at a bar, which only has the meaty portion and not the little flat wing 
> section.
> And since I don't do chicken wings, I don't really know about their sizes.
> But, yes, the large basket is geared probably for larger items, including 
> their cake pan, bread pan, pizza pan ... we can do enough sweet potato fries 
> or pot stickers for two in ours which I think may be a little smaller than 
> yours.
> 
> I'd appreciate it if you could get the size of the basket at some point.  NO 
> hurry.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
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> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about the Vesync app
> 
> Sorry, richard. I don’t know the inner dimensions of the pan yet. Can’t find 
> it anywhere online, and I forgot to ask my sided spouse, but I shall do so 
> later today. Also, and I guess this is really getting off-topic, since it’s 
> not a technical question. What the heck is the point of this big pan/basket 
> if you’re only supposed to put food in one layer? I get how you could do a 
> chicken, a whole big piece of meat whatever.but is it really true that even 
> with the two burners you should only put one layer? The pan is substantially 
> smaller than a sheet pan, so a whole bunch of chicken wings for instance, 
> which they say you can do, how? You probably couldn’t put more than maybe 
> four big chicken wings in that basket in one layer. That’s a far cry from I 
> think 17 that they advertised. I don’t get it.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2023, at 6:45 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good to know Rick.
>> We probably should get that one, as ours is one of the recalled models, but 
>> it has been working fine but we know we are using it at our own risk.  My 
>> wife cannot imagine being without one for 6 weeks or more if we go through 
>> the replacement process by cutting the cord and submitting a picture and 
>> waiting until they send us a replacement, which likely would not be the 2 
>> burner model...
>> Christmas is coming. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
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>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 12:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app
>> 
>> Hi Richard. I have the same model and have noticed where the second bottom 
>> element makes a huge difference is in the fact that you don't have to turn 
>> stuff over. For example, we just made a batch of mini eggrolls and they came 
>> out perfectly cooked and crispy all the way around. They honestly seemed 
>> like they had been deep fried. They were delicious and better in this air 
>> fryer than in any other we have had. I really didn't notice that much 
>> difference in cooking time however. Everything seems to cook more evenly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warmest regards,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> rick.alf...@gmail.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 12:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app
>> 
>> That is interesting about the cook time.  I wonder what the point is of 
>> 

Re: AirPods Pro Audio Question

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I can’t say why they are in Mono. But I can say I had issues with my M1 MacBook 
Pro and the Air Pod Pro 2 USB C edition. I’m using them just fine on the 14 Pro 
Max but I am no longer using them with the Mac. Audio kept losing voiceover and 
I would have to shut the Mac down to get it back.
Merv


> On Oct 30, 2023, at 8:05 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I bought Apple AirPod Pro Second Edition headphones recently and when I 
> connect them to my iPhone 15 they sound good. When I connect them to an M1 
> MacBook Air, I’m only getting mono audio. I wonder if anyone has ideas why 
> the audio isn’t working correctly on the MacBook?
> 
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Re: Echo Dot 5th generation

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

You can check the volume by saying wake word change volume to 3 or whatever you 
want the volume to be. However, it may be muted. There are four buttons on top. 
Of the 5th gen Dot. A plus and minus which are volume buttons. A round button 
which is both used for resetting and for waking up the Lady A. And opposite 
that is the mute button. That mute button makes a sound when mute goes on and 
off. It is higher pitched when mute goes off than when it is muted.
Hope that helps.
Merv

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> On Oct 24, 2023, at 6:56 AM, William Outman  wrote:
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> I am having some difficulty getting my new Echo Dot 5th generation going. Got 
> it connected toWi-Fi and did all the set up, I thought. Did recording of 
> voice profile but am not sure it took. Changed wake word to Echo in the app 
> and it reports it is changed to Echo. Tried to use it bu hear nothing. 
> Perhaps volume is at 0. Not sure of all the buttons on the unit. By the way 
> old Echo Dot shows up in app, which I lost track of two years ago. 
> I am planning to use the Echo to control a new Toshiba smart microwave I 
> bought from Amazon. That’s another issue. I have their smart appliance app 
> but already see there are two unlabeled tabs on the screen where you add a 
> device. Haven’t gotten into the smart appliance game before because of fear 
> of the complicated and not always fully accessible set up process. 
> Bill Outman 
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Re: Soundscape update

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

It will be interesting to see what these other apps eventually produce. I use 
voice Vista often and have had very good results. I’m even thinking of getting 
Air Pods to use with them and I don’t normally prefer earbuds of any kind. I 
have a waterproof lanyard that I got from Amazon and using Voice Vista I have 
overcome a spot that I have strayed into and got lost consistently for three 
years. Now I go right past it every time. Ironically, I never tried the 
original app once when it was a Microsoft app. Before they released the open 
source into the wild.
Merv


> On Aug 7, 2023, at 1:05 PM, Thomas Frank  wrote:
> 
> Voice Vista works very well and the developer is updating it frequently.
> Thomas Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2023, at 7:47 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Is there any news on the Soundscape replacements? Will open scape come out 
>> of beta and soundscape for everyone?
>> 
>> JODY
>> 
>> To Boldly Go   
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Using Voicevista for turn by turn directions

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

That is exactly what I was hoping for. I like the easy way of recording and 
setting markers. However I would also like to be able to have the change of 
direction automatically voiced without having to press a button.
I have a paid app and have never been able to figure out how to accomplish 
these two tasks with blind square or I would have been using that because I 
like the way it uses my watch.
Merv


> On Jul 8, 2023, at 11:32 AM, Steve Cook  wrote:
> 
> Using VoiceVista, is their way you can set the app to announce what is ahead 
> of you by moving the phone instead of tapping the button? With Sound Scape we 
> were able to do this.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 10:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Using Voicevista for turn by turn directions
>  
> I do use Good Maps Outdoors, but I was just trying to compare the two, I 
> guess to see if I like Voice Vista any better.
>  
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
> Doc Wright
> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using Voicevista for turn by turn directions
>  
> Why don't you use GoodMaps Outdoors? It will give you the information you 
> seek.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Christopher Chaltain 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 3:46 PM
>> Subject: RE: Using Voicevista for turn by turn directions
>>  
>> Exactly, so my question is whether you can use VoiceVista for turn by turn 
>> directions, and if so, how would you do it since the route tab doesn’t seem 
>> to be the way to go. Maybe you need to use voiceVista in conjunction with 
>> something like Apple Maps.
>>  
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>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 4:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Using Voicevista for turn by turn directions
>>  
>> I don't think it does that. It looks to me like you have to have dropped a 
>> bunch of waypoints along a route and then you can create a route out of 
>> those waypoints. It says on the route screen:
>>  
>>  
>> Create a route for yourself or for someone else by organizing a set of 
>> markers as waypoints on a route. While out on your route with VoiceVista, 
>> you will be informed on arrival to each waypoint, and the Audio Beacon will 
>> automatically advance to the next waypoint.
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Richard, USA.
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>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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>>  
>>  
>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Christopher Chaltain >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was using voiceVista the other day, and it seemed pretty cool, but I 
>>> wasn’t able to figure out how to get turn by turn directions out of it. Is 
>>> this possible, and where would I go to do it? The route tab just seems to 
>>> let me define and name a route.
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Hi Mark,
I would love to see the Messages app get some love. Since they updated it a few 
builds ago it has been a bit clumsy. It is often difficult to find the record 
button then again finding the send button when sending audio messages on the 
iPhone. Along with that, I would like a quick and easy way to export audio 
messages to files or folders on the Mac. I saw that CAF but couldn’t find an 
easy way to export an audio message to mp3 or WMA or even wav.
Merv


> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
> devices.
> 
> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.
> 
> You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.
> 
> 
> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
> see introduced next week?
> 
> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.
> 
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Re: what are good calendar apps

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I use the native Calendar app as well, Richard. On both my iPhone and iPad Pro 
as well as my MacBook Pro. I like the way that all three devices sync up 
immediately. In fact I also have a watch and that syncs up along with my other 
three devices. Nicki, my wife, and I have a shared Calendar in addition to my 
other calendars and her four devices and my four devices all sync up 
simultaneously when one of us enters something into the shared Calendar. Which 
we do often. 
I generally have something going daily on the Calendar as well as eight or ten 
reminders going in a variety of shared categories. I have both Calendar and 
Reminders as complications on my Apple Watch.
I would have a difficult time spending $56 on a third party app when VoiceOver 
works so well with the Native apps Calendar and Reminders.
Merv


> On Apr 20, 2023, at 11:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> I just use the native calendar on my iPhone. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
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> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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> 
>> On Apr 20, 2023, at 8:13 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What are good calendar apps that are good and accessible and easy to use?
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Re: Playing Apple classical music over my sonos speakers

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

According to someone, I spoke to at Sonos, they are working on support between Apple, classical music, and Sonos. However, it is not there yet. I also spoke to someone with Apple about support on Sonos, as well as the Mac and got a similar answer. And he said they have no plans to take it to the Mac with an apple.On Apr 17, 2023, at 4:11 AM, realman02 via VIPhone  wrote:Hi. I just bought a Sonos Era-300 and am anxious to hear spatial audio over my Era-300. I tried accessing the new apple Classical music app. I can get into it through Music, then go to apple Classical, but can’t figure out how to play it through Sonos. I can also get to it through Sonos, but can’t connect into the Era-300, although I can using Spotify. Anybody got any suggestions?Thanks. John  



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Re: Apple Music Classical

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled by the air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the voice control on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone who does use the AppleTV and Sonos throughout her home and she is very happy with the results.On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music Classical to Sonos as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for now.
Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an Android version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the works, I am pretty sure it is just a matter of time until it will be available natively from Sonos.
Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music Classic app for the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos surround setup, you could then play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.
I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though spacial music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it from the latest version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big difference in terms of audio quality. Therefore
 I would imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music Classical if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos app.

 


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Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical


 
Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.







On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  wrote:




I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, genre, or
 even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the weekend. 

There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak to them in this regard.


First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.


Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App Store.


I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple Classical
 App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love the app.


Merv


 






On Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 


Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is when it
 comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive regarding the new app.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 


 

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Re: Apple Music Classical

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I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very 
accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with 
classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, 
genre, or even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the 
weekend. 
There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m 
hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak 
to them in this regard.
First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While 
Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music 
App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.
Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who 
subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App 
Store.
I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad 
apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very 
well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple 
Classical App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that 
with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love 
the app.
Merv


> On Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say 
> about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a 
> few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is 
> when it comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated 
> with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive 
> regarding the new app.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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Re: Sonos CEO says Amazon, Google aren’t "doing anything interesting" in audio - The Verge

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Sonos has three options unless you get the models without microphones. Those 
options are Alexa, Google, and Sonos. You can run Sonos alongside Google and 
Alexa. Sorry if I evoked one or another of your speakers. Both Sonos and Google 
have Hey before them to prevent such issues. Sonos is rather basic but is very 
nice for controlling the alarm when you are half asleep in the morning and need 
to have music changed or volume along with your alarm.
Merv

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> I have a Sonos Roam, and I do use it with Alexa. I could also use it with 
> Google assistant if I wanted to. I think other Sonos speakers also have Alexa 
> as an option.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 11:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sonos CEO says Amazon, Google aren’t "doing anything 
> interesting" in audio - The Verge
> 
> I heard a Charge five and the sound was awesome! Unfortunately, it did not 
> have Alexa integration. I decided to go for a Marshall Alexa powered speaker 
> with Blue Tooth.  For those using sonos, do you wish you could use it with 
> Alexa?
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/10/23, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> I thought about grabbing a Sonos Move this week as I have a coupon for 
>> a discount that expires Sunday. But now I am going to wait and see if 
>> they will refresh that model. I bought a roam last year and gave it to 
>> Nicki, my wife, who had a specific need for it and it serves her well. 
>> The accessibility of the Sonos system is very good except on the Mac. 
>> I made several requests to have their Mac app as accessible as the PC 
>> and iPhone app.
>> Regarding the battery status, however, I have several Sony Headphones 
>> that will give me the battery status with the push of a button. I have 
>> two
>> WH1000-XM4 which still sell on Amazon for around $250 even though the 
>> XN5 model is available for around $350. The right side of the 
>> headphones are touch but very accessible. The left side has push 
>> buttons. One button speaks the battery status when pushed while the 
>> headphones are in operation.
>> If I didn’t already own the WH1000-XM4 I would have the XM5 because of 
>> the greater noise reduction for making calls in a crowded room. But 
>> the XN4 are my go to headphones on the iPhone and totally accessible.
>> Getting back to Sonos, I have never been disappointed with their 
>> quality or their committment to accessibility. If I lived in a house 
>> rather than an apartment, I would own a lot more than the ten Sonos 
>> speakers that I currently do own.
>> Merv
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>>> On Feb 10, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that: am interested in what the Era models will be like.
>>> 
>>> While on the subject of Sonos: I was wondering recently whether there 
>>> are any other brands who have speakers which one can speak to and get 
>>> the information about the battery spoken back. When I discovered I 
>>> had access to Sonos Voice I quickly got it set up and was blown away 
>>> by the fact that I could do that. To my mind, that makes them  
>>> eminently accessible. There are other bluetooth speakers and 
>>> headphones on which one can press a button and get that information 
>>> but this is the first time I’ve seen anything quite like what I can do with 
>>> my Roam and Move.
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Re: Sonos CEO says Amazon, Google aren’t "doing anything interesting" in audio - The Verge

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I thought about grabbing a Sonos Move this week as I have a coupon for a 
discount that expires Sunday. But now I am going to wait and see if they will 
refresh that model. I bought a roam last year and gave it to Nicki, my wife, 
who had a specific need for it and it serves her well. The accessibility of the 
Sonos system is very good except on the Mac. I made several requests to have 
their Mac app as accessible as the PC and iPhone app.
Regarding the battery status, however, I have several Sony Headphones that will 
give me the battery status with the push of a button. I have two WH1000-XM4 
which still sell on Amazon for around $250 even though the XN5 model is 
available for around $350. The right side of the headphones are touch but very 
accessible. The left side has push buttons. One button speaks the battery 
status when pushed while the headphones are in operation. 
If I didn’t already own the WH1000-XM4 I would have the XM5 because of the 
greater noise reduction for making calls in a crowded room. But the XN4 are my 
go to headphones on the iPhone and totally accessible.
Getting back to Sonos, I have never been disappointed with their quality or 
their committment to accessibility. If I lived in a house rather than an 
apartment, I would own a lot more than the ten Sonos speakers that I currently 
do own.
Merv

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> On Feb 10, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that: am interested in what the Era models will be like.
> 
> While on the subject of Sonos: I was wondering recently whether there are any 
> other brands who have speakers which one can speak to and get the information 
> about the battery spoken back. When I discovered I had access to Sonos Voice 
> I quickly got it set up and was blown away by the fact that I could do that. 
> To my mind, that makes them  eminently accessible. There are other bluetooth 
> speakers and headphones on which one can press a button and get that 
> information but this is the first time I’ve seen anything quite like what I 
> can do with my Roam and Move.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
>> On 9 Feb 2023, at 17:52, Sieghard Weitzel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Here the other article from The Verge:
>>  
>> Sonos CEO says Amazon, Google aren’t "doing anything interesting" in audio
>> And he doesn’t sound particularly impressed by Apple’s second-generation 
>> HomePod, either.
>> By CHRIS WELCH/ Feb 8, 2023, 3:53 PM PST
>>  
>> During Sonos’ Q1 2023 earnings call, CEO Patrick Spence expressed the usual 
>> optimism about his company’s financial performance, sales momentum, and 
>> upcoming product roadmap. This man really loves the word “flywheel,” folks. 
>> But he also took clear jabs at Big Tech competitors, including Amazon, 
>> Google, and Apple, for barely putting up a fight in recent months. With 
>> Amazon rumored to be taking a hard look at its ambitions surrounding Alexa 
>> and Echo products and Google largely focused on all things Pixel, Spence 
>> said that Sonos faced no serious competition during the crucial holiday 
>> quarter. “We’ve gone through fiscal Q1, which is the height of the consumer 
>> electronics and audio season and we’ve seen some of the traditional players 
>> go heavy discounting and, kind of like a traditional playbook for consumer 
>> electronics that we’ve always fought against and don’t really believe in,” 
>> he said. “And then, the big tech players, we just haven’t seen them active 
>> and we haven’t seen them doing anything interesting.”
>> Neither of Sonos’ primary smart speaker rivals launched any new audio 
>> hardware during the holiday quarter. And Apple’s second-generation HomePod 
>> arrived after it had already ended. But Sonos doesn’t seem all that 
>> impressed with or concerned about Apple’s resurrected $299 device. “We never 
>> want to get overconfident in these things, but you know, even seeing what’s 
>> emerged recently, from Apple, I could not be more excited or confident about 
>> the product roadmap we have and our ability to take more and more of that 
>> $96 billion global audio market,” Spence said.
>> Google’s most recent home audio product is the aging Nest Audio, and 
>> Amazon’s fall 2022 hardware event went light on smart speakers: the company 
>> introduced a refreshed Echo Dot and added a new white color option for the 
>> top-of-the-line Echo Studio. The regular Echo speaker was last refreshed in 
>> 2020.
>> I just feel like there’s 

Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

In this thread I have seen the owner of Twitter referred to as Idiot and 
Knucklehead. And that was just today. If this is the way the blind community 
expects to gain both respect and accessibility then good luck. And enjoy those 
third party apps. Oh wait! There are no more third party apps. I wonder why? 
Perhaps communication and disrespect of the blind and sighted communities are 
both breaking down these days. Perhaps Entitlement and Empowerment sometimes 
gets a bit confused in both the business and the private sector.
Merv


> On Jan 20, 2023, at 9:50 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> My sentiments exactly, I love the Twitter app, and will always continue to 
> use it. And if I have a problem, I'll go to the knucklehead himself and ask 
> him. Why did you have to get rid of your accessibility people I follow him 
> directly.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> As long as official the official Twitter app remains accessible, I don't 
>> plan on going anywhere. Dont be so harsh! The app might have its issues 
>> (adds for instance), but it's accessible. Look at Facebook, with no 3rd 
>> party apps, and how many blind people are still using it.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>>> El 20 ene 2023, a la(s) 10:10 a.m., Feliciano Godoy 
>>>  escribió:
>>> 
>>>  Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their 
>>> accessibility team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to 
>>> be utilized doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company.
>>> Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates: 
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>>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
>>> who do. -Steve Jobs 
>>> 
 On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 
 If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired 
 their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more 
 third-party clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, 
 now it’s not. It’s all about Elon and his stupidity. Get out!
 Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
 AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)
 
  
 Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit 
 third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's 
 API.
 
 On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
 prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.
 
 The change comes a few days after developers began reporting 
 
  their apps no longer worked.
 
 The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been 
 expanded to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the 
 company's development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some 
 apps might not work.
 
 Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some 
 apps not working.
 
 — Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023 
 
 
 However, as Engadget points out, 
 
  it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been 
 central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.
 
 Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history 
 since the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did 
 and is credited with coining the word "tweet."
 
 As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their 
 apps out of the App Store.
 
 Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull 
 Twitterrific from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.
 
 Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with 
 no path forward. Please read our blog for more information 
 https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD
 
 — Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023 
 
 
 Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current 
 controversies purportedly caused by Elon Muskacquiring the company 
 
  in October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving 
 advertising revenue for the company, as 

Re: Apple watch group

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

applewatchuncomplicated+subscr...@groups.io has been around for a few years now.MervOn Jan 8, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:Hi Marie and Kimberly,This is good information to have. I just picked up an Apple Watch Series 8. Unfortunately, my reasons were health related. I have to monitor my heart rate now and having the watch seems the best option for me. So I will check out this group and subscribe to it. Thanks for the info.Best regards,LesSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 8, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Mária Orovčíková  wrote:
  

  
  
Hello,
the subscription address is:
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Maria

On 8. 1. 2023 18:17, 'Kimberly Samco'
  via VIPhone wrote:


  Hi,

I took the plunge and got a refurbished series 7.  I’ve listened to all the videos on Apple Vis and a good many videos on YouTube but I need access to more info.  I know others asked about an Apple Watch user group but I can’t find the answers.  I sure would appreciate if someone could let me know how to find/join them.


Thanks,


Kim




  




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Re: Accessibility of music service aps

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I use YouTube Premium because the YouTube Music works so well with Sonos and also with my Mac, iPhone, and Windows platforms.MervOn Dec 27, 2022, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Thanks! I forgot to mention in my earlier post that Deezer seems to have some accessibility issues. When selecting artists for example, I couldn’t tell the state of the artist, e.g. I didn’t hear selected or unselected. I’m not sure if
 that will get in the way of my use of Deezer or not.
 

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Hi Christopher,

Spotify is pretty accessible in my opinion.


It works well with google and alexa.

Sent from my iPod






On Dec 27, 2022, at 5:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:




 
I’m shopping around for a new music service. It looks like right now I’m deciding between Spotify, Deezer and Amazon Music. I’ll play around with each as much as I can, but I’m wondering if anyone wants to share their opinions on the accessibility
 of the apps for these services.
 
Right now I’m using YouTube Music, which I like, but I’m looking for something that will be supported on more of the platforms I’m starting to use. I just bought a Sonos Roam, and I have a Denon receiver running HEOS. I also have smart
 speakers right now from Amazon, Google and Apple. I know I can use Airplay and Chromecast, but a service or assistant that supports these services would be a nice to have.
 
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Re: Interesting IOS16 feature, email follow-up sending mail back to the inbox.

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Thanks for the tip. That has been annoying me but I haven’t had time to figure 
out where it was originating.
Merv


> On Nov 13, 2022, at 8:52 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
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> Hello, I thought I’d send a message about this new switch in the mail 
> settings in IOS16. It's just after the privacy setting, and before the 
> threading options. It's called follow-up suggesttions. Reading about this 
> feature answered my internal question about why some sent mail was ending up 
> in my inbox a few days later. I wonered if it was waiting to send that 
> message until that later date, or what was going on. It turns out that yes 
> the mail goes out when you send it, but if you have questions within that 
> email to whomever, then Apple thinks you might want to follow up, if that 
> person doesn’t reply to your message. If you like this feature, it's on by 
> default, but if not, switch it off and your messages will not return to your 
> inbox like they have been.
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Re: Garage Band app

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I have a 12 Pro Max and 16.1. Garage Band is working fine for me. Although I 
prefer third party apps and prefer to use the Mac.
Merv


> On Oct 27, 2022, at 12:15 PM, William Outman  wrote:
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> Hello. Another friend was showing me the Garage Band app, so I thought I 
> would give it a try myself. 
> I found I could not open it in iOS 16.1, and got a message that the developer 
> needed to update it. 
> My friend was still on iOS 15, so am concerned about the future of this app. 
> I thought that a few versions ago Apple had given Garage Band to us without 
> our asking for it, as one year it suddenly just showed up. Has Apple 
> abandoned the app or is there some replacement for it within the operating 
> system? Does the phone model make a difference? I happen to be using an 8 
> Plus which may give way to a 14 Pro in a few months. 
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Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Hi,
I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough. 
I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.
Merv


> On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
> 
> Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
> when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? 
> When I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that 
> juring the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you 
> get out of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.
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Re: Is there a dedicated email list for apple watch?

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applewatchuncomplicated+subscr...@groups.ioWe have been around for a few years now.MervOn Oct 10, 2022, at 1:04 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:Yes there is and you can send a blank message to the following email address to subscribe.
watchosblindusersgroup+subscr...@groups.ioOn Oct 10, 2022, at 11:47 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:Hello listers,Does anyone know if there is a dedicated Apple Watch email list for blind and visually impaired people? If there is one, please send me the info. I will truly appreciate it.RegardsSent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BN8PR07MB5906B5F8E12637D5AFCCBA11C1209%40BN8PR07MB5906.namprd07.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: Embarrassing question.

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

The issue with this thread is it has not yet generated a discussion of dating 
apps. It has only generated controversy. And a few lonely heart pleas including 
phone numbers and cries for companionship. Perhaps if a few people stopped 
fanning the flames and either added to the solution or stopped making the 
problem bigger, the issue would not seem so insurmountable. And a solution 
would present itself to the individual who originally opened the thread. And 
the interested parties.
To bring the original thread back on topic: Amy accessible dating apps out 
there? 
Merv


> On Aug 31, 2022, at 9:30 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
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> Nothing wrong with it at all. I can't believe someone had the nerve to
> say that the person that asked this question should be blocked.
> Seriously what is wrong with the world.
> 
> On 8/31/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> What is the difference in what has been asked for than asking about any
>> other web site's accessibility on an iPhone? What an uproar. I do not get
>> it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Jenny Bomareto
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 3:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Embarrassing question.
>> 
>> The original poster regarding this topic should be very embarrassed as this
>> is the wrong group to be talking about stuff like this even though I’m not
>> the moderator of the group this is horrible stuff.  In my opinion I think
>> the original poster that posted that’s been talking about all this should be
>> blocked so he’s not allowed to send any email.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
>> Jenny Bomareto
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: What are people's thoughts on Spring for Twitter

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I use Spring for Twitter on both my Mac and my iPhone. I prefer my Mac but find 
it worthwhile on both devices. I don’t think $9.99 is unreasonable. Especially 
considering it is not a subscription. And it gives you push on the Mac. And it 
syncs very well with all three of your devices if you have both an iPhone and 
an iPad in addition to the Mac. And the developer is very quick to respond. 
I’ve only been back on Twitter for a few months after leaving it for about a 
year. So I don’t have a ton of followers or lists yet. Again. But so far this 
is my twitter app of choice for all of my devices.
And don’t let anyone tell you the Mac is losing accessibility. The Spring 
Twitter app proves that is totally bogus. 
Merv


> On May 1, 2022, at 4:03 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
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> What are people’s thoughts on Spring for Twitter?
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Re: apple watch email

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Merv


> On Apr 21, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Albert Brown  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Is there an email group please for the apple watch 
> 
> ALBERT
> 
> JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2022.2204.20
> 
> MICROSOFT WINDOWS
> VERSION 21h1 (OS BUILD 19043.1526)
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Re: Regarding Paramount plus

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We recently started having some accessibility issues on the Fire TV. Where we 
had no trouble with audio description now we are having trouble turning it on. 
It came only recently after the last update. Hopefully it will get fixed again.
Merv


> On Jan 12, 2022, at 8:20 AM, Don Ball  wrote:
> 
> Yes I use it all the time. It’s hard to easily move to a particular passage 
> in a video but it is accessible I need to learn a bit more about  direct 
> touch and that might help
>  
> Sent from Mail  for Windows
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> Subject: Regarding Paramount plus
>  
> Hi everyone. I have a couple of people who are interested to know whether 
> Paramount plus is accessible or not. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I like the Sony WH1000XM4. It is very comfortable. Has great sound. Normally 
retails for $349 US. However, I got a Black Friday deal for two of them for my 
wife and I. They were $100 off for several weeks over the holidays.
Merv


> On Jan 1, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
> Happy new year Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
>> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
>> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
>> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
>> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
>> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
>> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
>> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
>> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
>> updates for a while.
>> 
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
>> me by will be better in a year or two.
>> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much 
>> rather buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago 
>> because I know I'd be replacing them by now.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
>> Baracco
>> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it 
>> passes them by.
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> 
>>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>>> in or something.
>>> 
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
> headphones:
> 
> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
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> 
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Question of the Week: What is your Favorite Apple product and Why?

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Functionality of the watch will also depend on the model and whether you 
include cellular. I have the Series six and do not regret paying the price for 
the extra line on my phone plan. One day I was out walking and forgot my phone. 
A call came in informing me of a death in the family and I needed to act 
immediately even though I was out walking. If I had not been able to answer the 
call on my watch independently of my phone and then follow up immediately from 
where I was standing I would have been out of luck.
Merv


> On Dec 20, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Like with any product, the size of the watch, the watch band, and whether you 
> get one that contains a cellular radio is going to affect the price. As to 
> whether they're somewhat expensive or not is something each person will have 
> to decide for themselves.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 6:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question of the Week: What is your Favorite Apple product and 
> Why?
> 
> I thought that was the case.  I've heard apple watches can be somewhat 
> expensive.  I heard it depends on what watch band you get.
> 
> On 12/20/21, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi. If you choose the apple watch with cellular you can take calls on 
>> the watch regardless of whether you have your phone with you.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Judge
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Janet Bell
>> Sent: December 20, 2021 5:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question of the Week: What is your Favorite Apple product 
>> and Why?
>> 
>> Hi Josh unfortunately you can't get a call on an apple watch if you 
>> have left your phone behind.  but they are still good to have.  my 
>> favourite apple product is my SE20 Janet
>> 
>> On 20/12/2021 06:38, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>>> The only apple device I own, is my iPhone 8.  It wasn't easy for me 
>>> at first when I upgraded from a traditional flip phone.  However, 
>>> having had my iPhone for the last 2 and a half years, I'd never go 
>>> back.  It is so much fun to watch movies, listen to music, books, and 
>>> also call and text.  The phone works very well with all my bluetooth 
>>> speakers and headphones.  I've thought about getting an apple watch 
>>> at some point in the future.  It would be pretty cool to get a phone 
>>> call on my watch if I left my phone behind.  The fact that my iPhone 
>>> is a mainstream device makes it all the better for being independent 
>>> as much as I can.  Apple accessibility is also great if I have a 
>>> problem of any kind.  Having an entire library of bard books at any 
>>> time I want is totally cool.  Thanks for the question Mark.  One more 
>>> thing, being able to put on some ringtones to my iPhone is also a lot 
>>> of fun as well.
>>> 
>>> On 12/19/21, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
 I’d probably have to say my Apple Watch as well. I love the 
 complications and the fact that I can so easily flick between my 
 faces, to get a quick look at exactly what I want to see at that moment.
 
 I’m also a big fan of my Air Pod Pros’ and of course my iPhone 11.
 
 --
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 Chaltain at Outlook
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Diane Giannetti
 Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 10:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Question of the Week: What is your Favorite Apple 
 product and Why?
 
 I love my Apple Watch because you can leave your phone behind if 
 you’d like.
 Also it has the oxygen and it’s really cool with doing steps and all 
 that. I have the Apple Watch series 6.
 Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
 
 
 On Dec 19, 2021, at 9:18 PM, Esther Levegnale 
 mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
 I presently love my iPhone 7+, but since I ordered my new iPhone 13 
 Pro Max, I'm looking forward to that one.
 
 Esther
 Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
 
 
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Re: Question of the Week: What is your Favorite Apple product and Why?

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

Hi Mark,
I have never looked into turning that feature off because I actually like it. 
But I will see what I can find.
Merv


> On Dec 19, 2021, at 4:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Merv,
> 
> I do not want to get off topic but I recently purchased a M1 MacBook Air and 
> I really don't like the fact that the computer powers on when the lid is 
> raised or if any button on the built-in keyboard is pressed.  I have searched 
> and searched but cannot find anyway to disable this feature.
> 
> 1.
> Does the any-time on feature bother you?  
> 
> 2.
> Have you discovered a way to disable the feature?
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question of the Week: What is your Favorite Apple product and 
> Why?
> 
> I don’t have a favorite Apple Product. I have an M1 MacBook Pro, an Apple 
> Watch Series Six, An iPad Pro and an iPhone 12 Pro Max and I use them all. 
> And will no doubt get more Apple products when I can. I am not a fanboy but I 
> do like to stay in the apple system because they all work well together. I 
> can even stream to and from the Mac and the Sonos products throughout the 
> house including the very not Apple Toshiba Fire TV thanks to a new 
> cooperative upgrade to the fire TV this week. Ok maybe my M1 MacBook Pro is 
> my favorite these days.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 3:30 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mark, my favorite Apple product, is my Mac. Because I'm able to do my 
>> email very quickly.
>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 2:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> My favorite Apple product, at the moment, is my Apple watch with the 
>>> weather Complication.
>>> 
>>> Why?
>>> 
>>> Because I really enjoy the weather Complication as it allows me to 
>>> easily see the temperature, hour-by-hour, via the Digital Crown, for 
>>> the remainder of the day.  I find this extremely helpful when 
>>> determining when to start a fire, in my fireplace, or when to turn on the 
>>> furnace.
>>> 
>>> In the rainy season, using the Digital Crown, I can easily scroll 
>>> through the remainder of the day to see the rain forecast, hour-by-hour.
>>> 
>>> I truly do appreciate all of my Apple products for the independence 
>>> they allow me to enjoy; however, at the moment, I would say that 
>>> Apple watch with the weather Complication is topping my favorites list.
>>> 
>>> What is your favorite Apple product and why?
>>> 
>>> I look forward to your replies,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: Question of the Week: What is your Favorite Apple product and Why?

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I don’t have a favorite Apple Product. I have an M1 MacBook Pro, an Apple Watch 
Series Six, An iPad Pro and an iPhone 12 Pro Max and I use them all. And will 
no doubt get more Apple products when I can. I am not a fanboy but I do like to 
stay in the apple system because they all work well together. I can even stream 
to and from the Mac and the Sonos products throughout the house including the 
very not Apple Toshiba Fire TV thanks to a new cooperative upgrade to the fire 
TV this week. Ok maybe my M1 MacBook Pro is my favorite these days.
Merv


> On Dec 19, 2021, at 3:30 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mark, my favorite Apple product, is my Mac. Because I'm able to do my 
> email very quickly.
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 2:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> My favorite Apple product, at the moment, is my Apple watch with the weather
>> Complication.  
>> 
>> Why?
>> 
>> Because I really enjoy the weather Complication as it allows me to easily
>> see the temperature, hour-by-hour, via the Digital Crown, for the remainder
>> of the day.  I find this extremely helpful when determining when to start a
>> fire, in my fireplace, or when to turn on the furnace.
>> 
>> In the rainy season, using the Digital Crown, I can easily scroll through
>> the remainder of the day to see the rain forecast, hour-by-hour.
>> 
>> I truly do appreciate all of my Apple products for the independence they
>> allow me to enjoy; however, at the moment, I would say that Apple watch with
>> the weather Complication is topping my favorites list.
>> 
>> What is your favorite Apple product and why?
>> 
>> I look forward to your replies,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Three questions

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

If I recall correctly, Mark, our moderator is looking to purchase an Apple 
Watch right now. So I would expect to see quite a bit of Apple Watch traffic 
here in the near future.
Another Apple Watch group is:
applewatchuncomplicated+subscr...@groups.io 

Merv


> On Nov 27, 2021, at 7:17 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
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> Don't you hate it when people write a subject line like that?  I do have just 
> three questions though. 
> The first one is because I know this is an iPhone list, I suspect Apple watch 
> is off subject.  So, the question is, is there an Apple watch list?
> The next question is, how do you turn off the Apple watch?
> The third question is, how do you find the battery status on the apple watch?
> I am going to dive in to lots of information on the Apple watch right now, so 
> hopefully in the future, I won't have so many questions.  Thanks for any help.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
>  
> We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
> anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
> shining - just shine.
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Re: iCloud Email

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I have noticed that I tend to bouce about once a week on groups.io 
 since switching to iCloud. Usually it happens on weekends 
if I let it go an entire day without checking my email. But it is annoying.
Merv


> On Jul 10, 2021, at 12:11 PM, don.moore48 via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hint, if you've got any mail coming from groups.io , 
> iCloud doesn't play nicely with them.  You can count on bouncing several 
> times a week, in which case you have to respond to the email you get to 
> unbounce yourself.  Not sure what the problem is, but I'm not alone with it.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
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> A quick Google search found this Apple support article:
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> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/icloud/mmdd8d1c5c/icloud 
> 
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> How do I set up an iCloud Email?
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Re: Facebook today

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I got one of those messages yesterday which is very odd since I deleted my 
Facebook Profile in 2017 or 2018. I wasn’t sure what to do with the email so 
just deleted it. 
Merv


> On Apr 23, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Ann M Medlar  wrote:
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> I open on iPhone 12 pro and Windows desktop and same message:
> I did not click link to fix yet.  
> Is this a possible hack?  Any ideas?
>  
> At top of page it states
> Epsilon
> 
> Help 
> 
>
>  
> 
> Ann, Your Account Has Been Locked
> We saw unusual activity on your account. This may mean that someone has used 
> your account without your knowledge.
> 
> Account Locked April 23, 2021
> To protect you, your profile is not visible to people on Facebook and you 
> can't use your account.
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Re: Apple getting cheapq

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

At first I felt like Apple was being cheap. Then I looked around and realized I 
didn’t use the charging blocks I had here anyway. I use an old computer with a 
hub as a charging station for all types of devices including my watch, phone, 
and sometimes my iPad. I’ve got several of those bricks lying around gathering 
dust just in case. But haven’t used them in years. And I have four batteries 
and a JBL Boombox with two 20,000 MA ports on it that I keep charged that will 
keep me going for days in the event of a power outage. So the bricks are exacly 
as Apple says. Just future land fill or most likely recycle for electronic 
recycle day.
Merv


> On Apr 15, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Apple figures everyone has extra charging blocks from all their devices so 
> the environment doesn't need millions more for the landfills or that will end 
> up in the ocean.
> 
> BTW, USBC is not Apple's, it is universal; the lightning plug/ports are 
> Apple's exclusively.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:27 AM
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> Subject: Apple getting cheapq
> 
> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger.  How cheap is that considering 
> it's so proprietary?  It came with the C cord but not the charger.
> 
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Re: Glucose monitor?

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I would love to have that just because I don’t care for the Prodigy. My 
insurance company turned me down flat.
Merv


> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:00 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Andy,
> 
> Thanks for that note on the libre 2,
> 
> Will be interested to see more about that if it's here in nz or even 
> available yet.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:36 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Glucose monitor?
> 
> I can vouch, as my wife uses that system.  She can see well enough to tuse 
> the reader, but I set up the app on her phone and i can also check her 
> readings.
> There is now a Libre 2 which has additional features, such as various alarms, 
> and also a 21 day sensor, but as of now she uses the 14 day sensor.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Earlene Hughes" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 10:53 AM
> Subject: RE: Glucose monitor?
> 
> 
> Hello Ann and all,
> I recently started using the Freestyle Libre 14 day system product from 
> Abbott. I highly recommend this product. I downloaded the Libre link app on 
> my iPhone. The app is easy to use. You do not need to buy the reader unless 
> you want a sighted person to look at your readings. I use my iPhone to 
> monitor all of my data.
> I recently got my insurance company to purchase my sensors. I have a small 
> co-pay.
> Here is a link that can get you started:
> https://www.freestyle.abbott/us-en/home.html
> I hope this information is helpful to you.
> -Earlene Hughes
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann 
> Byrne
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:53 AM
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> Is there a glucose monitor that works with the iPhone???
> 
> Thx,
> 
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Re: Super strange Iphone bug

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I have never had a keyboard paired with my phone braille or bluetooth. Yet I 
have this vanishing keyboard issue several times a week. Apple Accessibility 
has tried a variety of fixes and even accused me of having an unknown keyboard 
in the house that was interfereing with my phone. They actually told me someone 
else in the house might have a braille or bluetooth keyboard in the house that 
was messing with my phone. I was home alone at the time. And had bluetooth 
turned off and had rebooted the phone and had reset the phone in settings.
What I have discovered is that most times if I turn off bluetooth then reboot 
the phone then turn on bluetooth that the keyboard will become visible again. 
This is a solid reboot and not just turning off the phone. If that does not 
work I sometimes can go into messages and into search and dictate and just act 
like I am dictating. Once the keyboard comes up I can cancel out of the search 
and the keyboard stays visible. 
This bug is more frequent than people realize and is easily googled. Apple 
really needs to address it as it was present even when I had my 8+  and still 
gives me issues on the 12 Pro Max.


> On Mar 25, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Yohandy,
> 
> If you ever use a braille display with your phone, connect it now. Go into an 
> edit box. Press Space with sh (dots 146) for Show Keyboard. Now turn off the 
> braille display. The keyboard should continue to show normally.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 12:47 AM, Yohandy  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> So I'm not sure if this is my phone, or if I perhaps broke some IOS setting, 
>> but it appears my Iphone keyboard either vanishes completely, or is having 
>> some weird issues. When I enter a text editing area, I hear this beeping 
>> sound. when I swipe past the text field, I hear another sound. However, when 
>> I'm actually on a text field, I can't type most of the time. At one point, I 
>> received a message that said, "keyboard shown", which leads me to believe 
>> it's some sort of keyboard issue, but no clue what could've caused it.
>> 
>> 
>> It is also super difficult to reset settings and perform software updates, 
>> because the password field isn't showing up with voiceover. However I can 
>> still type in Braille. I managed to reset keyboard settings, but that didn't 
>> fix the issue. I'm trying to avoid a full reset. This is totally bizarre. 
>> Hopefully someone's experienced this odd behavior and can help. thanks!
>> 
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Re: babyshark ringtone anyone

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I wish I had the baby shark ringtone. 
I’ll have to go do that this weekend.
Merv


> On Mar 25, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> I wish we could close this thread.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 1:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
> 
> Yeah
> Each to their own,
> 
> I have the nokia ring tone as my ipHones ring tone,
> 
> It's just such a classic I thought it was great,
> 
> It does confuse people when I answer my iPhone but it's ringing like a 
> classic nokia device.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 3:55 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: babyshark ringtone anyone
> Importance: High
> 
> I think it's a nice track. also, every one should be free to make there own 
> choice.
> I've got under the sea, from the little mermaid as my ringtone, mainly 
> because I am an open water swimming nut, and am quite often known as the 
> march Merman, March in Cambridgeshire being where I live, and Merman because 
> I spend so much time in the water.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 12:16 AM
> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
> 
> 
>> We shouldn't talk to  him then,
>> 
>> It's probably great for little kids but for adults I think it's 
>> annoying myself,
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 1:06 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>> 
>> But, if he likes it...?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 6:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>> 
>> Yeah no problem with self made ring tones, but the baby shark, that's 
>> out there.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 10:47 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>> 
>> I think it was fine for Joshua to do that. There are enough rings on 
>> the iPhone that I never have bothered to get one off the Net myself, 
>> even though my son would rather me have a car for his ring than a 
>> steam engine whistle.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Holly
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 4:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: babyshark ringtone anyone
>> 
>> I think the isolation of COVID has sent Joshua over the edge.  Hahahaha.
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Re: setting preferences and skills in the Alexa App

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

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Merv


> On Mar 8, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Danny Keys  wrote:
> 
> hello,
> 
> With all this discussion about echo device, what is the subscription 
> information for the echo list?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2021, at 7:28 AM, Richard Turner > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Reminders set on the echo device will not show up on your iPhone reminder 
>> app.
>> You can ask the Amazon lady, (I’m trying to avoid using her name as 
>> sometimes the speech synthesizer reading her name invokes a response if you 
>> don’t have headphones on,) what reminders do I have, etc.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>  
>>  
>> My web site, www.turner42.com 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of deidreandlou...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 7:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: setting preferences and skills in the Alexa App
>>  
>> Kimberly
>>Maybe it's time to get on the Echo list again and ask for 
>> sites that have answers to all these basic questions. There is a spot for 
>> help  and feedback on the Alexa App so I thinkI'll review what is in there. 
>> When I looked at the part of the App that reads "Accessibility" I don't 
>> remember anything extensive in the way of settings in there.
>> If I ask Alexa what skills I have enabled, I am told that  there are 5 of 
>> them which are broad catagories such as games, trivia, song quiz,  sounds… 
>> Yesterday someone looking in the Alexa App on my phone saw 11 of them.  It's 
>> confusing. I'mconfusedtoo why reminders on my phone say one thing and a 
>> reminder I created through Alexa is something different I told her to remind 
>> me of. That reminder was not recorded in my Reminders App and neither does 
>> it show anywhere else where I can delete it. Hmmm. 
>> Back to Skills, I'd like to know, for example,what category of skills, if 
>> that be what they are specific to, the TJ Sermonsstuff, or celebrity stuff, 
>> or Bible stuff is in. It would be nice to see that. My main interests are in 
>> music, science, the arts, and literature. I'd sure like to point to 
>> suggestions being made to include those topics. I currently hear short lists 
>> that say do you want to hear somethinglike TJ Sermons or somethingfrom the 
>> Bible, which I take are part of skills not yet "launched" or"enabled" - I'm 
>> not even sure if those terms are two different things or not.  I assume they 
>> are things proposed I might want to try.
>>Time to take these questions elsewhere.
>>  
>>Deidre
>>  
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