Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Donna]

It isn’t a deal breaker..Another thing that I have noticed; I’ a member of the 
VI iPhone group. The first time when starting to read the email voiceover will 
pronnnounce the group name as 6 iPhone. After that voiceover pronounces the 
group name as V I iPhone. 

Donna 
> 
> I meant to say in my last message that I haven't noticed any difference in 
> the pronunciation with the emoji.
> - Original Message -
> From: kelby carlson
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:40 AM
> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
> 
> Richard,
> 
> I'm using the enhanced version of iOS Samantha. I use it for pretty much 
> everything on my phone. (Sidenote: I like Alex, but am not sure why there is 
> so much enthusiasm there.) I just checked the keyboard again and it 
> pronounces the word emoji normally.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kelby,
>> Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the 
>> Australian voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my 
>> default US english voice, or another US English voice, the strange 
>> pronunciation is used.
>> Very odd. indeed.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>> quieter.” 
>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when 
>>>> just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was 
>>>> saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by 
>>>> letter. It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
>>>> It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old 
>>>> word emoji together.
>>>> So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the 
>>>> dictionary under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for 
>>>> the j so it says emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two 
>>>> syllables at least.
>>>> 
>>>> I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old 
>>>> pronunciation back.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>>>> quieter.” 
>>>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi <gad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Same here. It is strange.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Godwin Adoyi Agada
>>>>> Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
>>>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>>>>> Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
>>>>>  
>>>>> I noticed the same exact thing
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that 
>>>>>> label for the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen 
>>>>>> this?  I wonder  what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think 
>>>>>> it used to clearly say “emogi keyboard” or something like that and now, 
>>>>>> while I can tell it’s saying something about emoticons, the way it says 
>>>>>> it is really strange. 
>>>>>> Robin
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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Arlene]

I meant to say in my last message that I haven't noticed any difference in the 
pronunciation with the emoji. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: kelby carlson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:40 AM
  Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade


  Richard,


  I'm using the enhanced version of iOS Samantha. I use it for pretty much 
everything on my phone. (Sidenote: I like Alex, but am not sure why there is so 
much enthusiasm there.) I just checked the keyboard again and it pronounces the 
word emoji normally.


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:


Kelby, 
Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the 
Australian voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my 
default US english voice, or another US English voice, the strange 
pronunciation is used.
Very odd. indeed.
Richard





“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:


  That's odd. I'm not noticing this.


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:


Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like 
when just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was 
saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. 
It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the 
old word emoji together.
So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the 
dictionary under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j 
so it says emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at 
least.


I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old 
pronunciation back.
Richard







“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi <gad...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Same here. It is strange.




  Godwin Adoyi Agada
  Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
  (Sent from my iPhone)

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  Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade 

  I noticed the same exact thing


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

  On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:


My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today 
that label for the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen 
this?  I wonder what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to clearly 
say “emogi keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can tell it’s 
saying something about emoticons, the way it says it is really strange.  

Robin


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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Arlene]

Richard, that's interesting of what you noticed about the pronunciations of the 
different english voices. It made me curious what other us english 
pronuciations are there? I'm thinking it's some of the different voices. Thanks.

Arlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:32 AM
  Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade


  Kelby, 
  Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the 
Australian voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my 
default US english voice, or another US English voice, the strange 
pronunciation is used.
  Very odd. indeed.
  Richard





  “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

  - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


  On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:


That's odd. I'm not noticing this.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:


  Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when 
just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was 
saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. 
It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
  It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the 
old word emoji together.
  So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the 
dictionary under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j 
so it says emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at 
least.


  I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old 
pronunciation back.
  Richard







  “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
quieter.” 

  - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


  On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi <gad...@gmail.com> wrote:


Same here. It is strange.




Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade 

I noticed the same exact thing


Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:


  My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that 
label for the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen this?  
I wonder what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to clearly say 
“emogi keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can tell it’s saying 
something about emoticons, the way it says it is really strange.  

  Robin


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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Alan Lemly]

Hi mark and List, 

I'm also experiencing this emoji mispronunciation issue on my iPhone 7 running 
iOS 11.2.6 and using Samantha enhanced voice. As Sieghard has said, I expect 
this should be fairly easy to correct but why it happened in the first place is 
perplexing. I get this bizarre pronunciation of emoji whenever VoiceOver speaks 
that word whether I come across it in settings, on one of my keyboards, or 
within the body of this email. Since I'm still using iOS 11.2.6, it seems as if 
it isn't an iOS version issue. 

Alan Lemly Hi mark and List, 

I'm also experiencing this emoji mispronunciation issue on my iPhone 7 running 
iOS 11.2.6 and using Samantha enhanced voice. As Sieghard has said, I expect 
this should be fairly easy to correct but why it happened in the first place is 
perplexing. I get this bizarre pronunciation of emoji whenever VoiceOver speaks 
that word whether I come across it in settings, on one of my keyboards, or 
within the body of this text. Since I'm still using iOS 11.2.6, it seems as if 
it isn't an iOS version issue. 

Alan Lemly Hi mark and List, 

I'm also experiencing this emoji mispronunciation issue on my iPhone 7 running 
iOS 11.2.6 and using Samantha enhanced voice. As Sieghard has said, I expect 
this should be fairly easy to correct but why it happened in the first place is 
perplexing. I get this bizarre pronunciation of emoji whenever VoiceOver speaks 
that word whether I come across it in settings, on one of my keyboards, or 
within the body of this text. Since I'm still using iOS 11.2.6, it seems as if 
it isn't an iOS version issue. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 11:43 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Rich,
> 
> I am experiencing the same pronunciation problem in iOS 11.3 on all three 
> phone that I tested including my 6 S, 7, and 8 Plus devices.  
> 
> Mind you I removed and then reinstalled Samantha Enhanced TTS on all three 
> phones but the results were the same.
> 
> As I have stated on more than one occasion, I'm getting to the point where 
> I'm almost afraid of updating, these days. (sad smile)
> 
> Mark 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
> 
> I just called Apple Accessibility and had the support person listen to my 
> work phone's pronunciation of Emoji. 
> I demonstrated that the Karen voice said it correctly, but Tom and the Siri 
> Female did not.
> She tried it on her phone, and Samantha said it correctly.
> But, since she heard mine, she will report it to the engineers. 
> I decided having someone hear it would be better than trying to explain it in 
> writing.
> But, sending in written reports certainly could help.
> Later,
> Richard
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> Same here, Richard. Anyhow, let’s all report this to Apple Accessibility 
> since I suspect this is not a difficult item for them to fix.
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
> 
> 
> This is truly fascinating. I just installed Samantha Enhanced and it does the 
> strange new pronunciation which is about 5 or 6 syllables.  
> So, for me, Samantha Enhanced, Tom Enhanced, and Siri Female all do this 
> strange new combination of emodican and emogi sort of.
> But, being in the US if I switch to Australian Karen, it uses the old 
> familiar two syllable word.
> This is so strange I may take the time later to call Apple Accessibility and 
> have them listen to it and see what they say.
> Later,
> Richard
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:23 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep, definitely on the current version.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right? 
> This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Bill Gallik]

 Hey Donna,

This is indeed strange; I have two iDevices, each with iOS 11.3 installed - an 
iPhone 6 and an iPad II.

The iPhone has the Emoji pronunciation issue concerning this thread, the iPad 
does not!  



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RE: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[M. Taylor]

Hello Rich,

I am experiencing the same pronunciation problem in iOS 11.3 on all three phone 
that I tested including my 6 S, 7, and 8 Plus devices.  

Mind you I removed and then reinstalled Samantha Enhanced TTS on all three 
phones but the results were the same.

As I have stated on more than one occasion, I'm getting to the point where I'm 
almost afraid of updating, these days. (sad smile)

Mark 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I just called Apple Accessibility and had the support person listen to my work 
phone's pronunciation of Emoji. 
I demonstrated that the Karen voice said it correctly, but Tom and the Siri 
Female did not.
She tried it on her phone, and Samantha said it correctly.
But, since she heard mine, she will report it to the engineers. 
I decided having someone hear it would be better than trying to explain it in 
writing.
But, sending in written reports certainly could help.
Later,
Richard


“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Same here, Richard. Anyhow, let’s all report this to Apple Accessibility since 
I suspect this is not a difficult item for them to fix.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
 
 
This is truly fascinating. I just installed Samantha Enhanced and it does the 
strange new pronunciation which is about 5 or 6 syllables.  
So, for me, Samantha Enhanced, Tom Enhanced, and Siri Female all do this 
strange new combination of emodican and emogi sort of.
But, being in the US if I switch to Australian Karen, it uses the old familiar 
two syllable word.
This is so strange I may take the time later to call Apple Accessibility and 
have them listen to it and see what they say.
Later,
Richard
 
 
“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:23 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yep, definitely on the current version.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
 
Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right? 
This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.
 
Richard
 
 
“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Jerry Mader <maderra...@icloud.com> wrote:
I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it and 
it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't recognize 
the problem either or Samantha.
Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice. 

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
Kelby, 
Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the Australian 
voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my default US 
english voice, or another US English voice, the strange pronunciation is used.
Very odd. indeed.
Richard
 
 
“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when just 
using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was saying 
and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. It is 
spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old word 
emoji together.
So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the dictionary 
under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j so it says 
emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at least.
 
I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old pronunciation 
back.
Richard
 
 
 
 
“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi <gad...@gmail.com> wrote:
Same here. It is strange.
 
 
Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

RE: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[R Van Lant]

Thanks, Richard.  I do use the Samantha voice, so that’s interesting to know 
other voices may say it correctly.  With all screen readers, I find it 
interesting how different synthesizers are “taught” to say things.  Sometimes 
my synthesizer choice for Window Eyes or Jaws butchers something my iphone 
voice says correctly and sometimes it’s the  other way around.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I just called Apple Accessibility and had the support person listen to my work 
phone's pronunciation of Emoji.
I demonstrated that the Karen voice said it correctly, but Tom and the Siri 
Female did not.
She tried it on her phone, and Samantha said it correctly.
But, since she heard mine, she will report it to the engineers.
I decided having someone hear it would be better than trying to explain it in 
writing.
But, sending in written reports certainly could help.
Later,
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Same here, Richard. Anyhow, let’s all report this to Apple Accessibility since 
I suspect this is not a difficult item for them to fix.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade


This is truly fascinating. I just installed Samantha Enhanced and it does the 
strange new pronunciation which is about 5 or 6 syllables.
So, for me, Samantha Enhanced, Tom Enhanced, and Siri Female all do this 
strange new combination of emodican and emogi sort of.
But, being in the US if I switch to Australian Karen, it uses the old familiar 
two syllable word.
This is so strange I may take the time later to call Apple Accessibility and 
have them listen to it and see what they say.
Later,
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:23 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yep, definitely on the current version.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right?
This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.

Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Jerry Mader 
<maderra...@icloud.com<mailto:maderra...@icloud.com>> wrote:
I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it and 
it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't recognize 
the problem either or Samantha.
Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice.

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Kelby,
Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the Australian 
voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my default US 
english voice, or another US English voice, the strange pronunciation is used.
Very odd. indeed.
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when just 
using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was saying 
and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. It is 
spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old word 
emoji together.
So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the dictionary 
under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j so it says 
emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at least.

I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old pronunciation 
back.
Ri

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Donna]

I find it very strange that some have the problem while others using the same 
voice does not. There has to be a common thread somewhere. 

Donna

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I just called Apple Accessibility and had the support person listen to my 
> work phone's pronunciation of Emoji.
> I demonstrated that the Karen voice said it correctly, but Tom and the Siri 
> Female did not.
> She tried it on her phone, and Samantha said it correctly.
> But, since she heard mine, she will report it to the engineers. 
> I decided having someone hear it would be better than trying to explain it in 
> writing.
> But, sending in written reports certainly could help.
> Later,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Same here, Richard. Anyhow, let’s all report this to Apple Accessibility 
>> since I suspect this is not a difficult item for them to fix.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
>>  
>>  
>> This is truly fascinating. I just installed Samantha Enhanced and it does 
>> the strange new pronunciation which is about 5 or 6 syllables. 
>> So, for me, Samantha Enhanced, Tom Enhanced, and Siri Female all do this 
>> strange new combination of emodican and emogi sort of.
>> But, being in the US if I switch to Australian Karen, it uses the old 
>> familiar two syllable word.
>> This is so strange I may take the time later to call Apple Accessibility and 
>> have them listen to it and see what they say.
>> Later,
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>> quieter.” 
>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:23 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yep, definitely on the current version.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right?
>> This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>> quieter.” 
>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Jerry Mader <maderra...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it 
>> and it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't 
>> recognize the problem either or Samantha.
>> 
>> Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App 
>> of choice. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kelby,
>> Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the 
>> Australian voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my 
>> default US english voice, or another US English voice, the strange 
>> pronunciation is used.
>> Very odd. indeed.
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>> quieter.” 
>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when 
>> just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was 
>> saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by 
>> letter. It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
>> It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old 
>> word emoji together.
>> So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the 
>> dictionary under Voi

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Richard Turner]

I just called Apple Accessibility and had the support person listen to my work 
phone's pronunciation of Emoji.
I demonstrated that the Karen voice said it correctly, but Tom and the Siri 
Female did not.
She tried it on her phone, and Samantha said it correctly.
But, since she heard mine, she will report it to the engineers.
I decided having someone hear it would be better than trying to explain it in 
writing.
But, sending in written reports certainly could help.
Later,
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Same here, Richard. Anyhow, let’s all report this to Apple Accessibility since 
I suspect this is not a difficult item for them to fix.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade


This is truly fascinating. I just installed Samantha Enhanced and it does the 
strange new pronunciation which is about 5 or 6 syllables.
So, for me, Samantha Enhanced, Tom Enhanced, and Siri Female all do this 
strange new combination of emodican and emogi sort of.
But, being in the US if I switch to Australian Karen, it uses the old familiar 
two syllable word.
This is so strange I may take the time later to call Apple Accessibility and 
have them listen to it and see what they say.
Later,
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:23 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yep, definitely on the current version.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right?
This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.

Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Jerry Mader 
<maderra...@icloud.com<mailto:maderra...@icloud.com>> wrote:
I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it and 
it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't recognize 
the problem either or Samantha.
Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice.

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Kelby,
Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the Australian 
voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my default US 
english voice, or another US English voice, the strange pronunciation is used.
Very odd. indeed.
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when just 
using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was saying 
and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. It is 
spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old word 
emoji together.
So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the dictionary 
under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j so it says 
emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at least.

I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old pronunciation 
back.
Richard





“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi 
<gad...@gmail.com<mailto:gad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Same here. It is strange.


Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com<mailto:a

RE: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Same here, Richard. Anyhow, let’s all report this to Apple Accessibility since 
I suspect this is not a difficult item for them to fix.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade


This is truly fascinating. I just installed Samantha Enhanced and it does the 
strange new pronunciation which is about 5 or 6 syllables.
So, for me, Samantha Enhanced, Tom Enhanced, and Siri Female all do this 
strange new combination of emodican and emogi sort of.
But, being in the US if I switch to Australian Karen, it uses the old familiar 
two syllable word.
This is so strange I may take the time later to call Apple Accessibility and 
have them listen to it and see what they say.
Later,
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:23 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yep, definitely on the current version.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right?
This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.

Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Jerry Mader 
<maderra...@icloud.com<mailto:maderra...@icloud.com>> wrote:
I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it and 
it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't recognize 
the problem either or Samantha.
Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice.

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Kelby,
Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the Australian 
voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my default US 
english voice, or another US English voice, the strange pronunciation is used.
Very odd. indeed.
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when just 
using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was saying 
and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. It is 
spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old word 
emoji together.
So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the dictionary 
under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j so it says 
emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at least.

I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old pronunciation 
back.
Richard





“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi 
<gad...@gmail.com<mailto:gad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Same here. It is strange.


Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com<mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I noticed the same exact thing
Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant 
<vanlant2...@msn.com<mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:
My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that label for 
the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen this?  I wonder 
what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to clearly say “emogi 
keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can tell it’s saying 
something about emoticons, the way it says it is really strange.
Robin
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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Donna]

y using the enhance Samantha & she says something other than emoji keyboard. 

Donna 
> 
> Richard,
> 
> I'm using the enhanced version of iOS Samantha. I use it for pretty much 
> everything on my phone. (Sidenote: I like Alex, but am not sure why there is 
> so much enthusiasm there.) I just checked the keyboard again and it 
> pronounces the word emoji normally.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kelby,
>> Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the 
>> Australian voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my 
>> default US english voice, or another US English voice, the strange 
>> pronunciation is used.
>> Very odd. indeed.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>> quieter.” 
>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when 
>>>> just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was 
>>>> saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by 
>>>> letter. It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
>>>> It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old 
>>>> word emoji together.
>>>> So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the 
>>>> dictionary under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for 
>>>> the j so it says emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two 
>>>> syllables at least.
>>>> 
>>>> I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old 
>>>> pronunciation back.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>>>> quieter.” 
>>>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi <gad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Same here. It is strange.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Godwin Adoyi Agada
>>>>> Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
>>>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>>>>> Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
>>>>>  
>>>>> I noticed the same exact thing
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that 
>>>>>> label for the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen 
>>>>>> this?  I wonder what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to 
>>>>>> clearly say “emogi keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can 
>>>>>> tell it’s saying something about emoticons, the way it says it is really 
>>>>>> strange. 
>>>>>> Robin
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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Bill Gallik]

 Thank God for this thread; now I can stop searching for what it was I did to 
initiate this strange pronunciation of “Emoji."


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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
I have noticed the issue when I use Tom as my voice. I do not notice it when I 
use other voices like Alex.

Greg Wocher

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right?
> This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Jerry Mader <maderra...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:maderra...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it 
>> and it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't 
>> recognize the problem either or Samantha.
>> 
>> Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App 
>> of choice. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com 
>> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Kelby,
>>> Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the 
>>> Australian voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my 
>>> default US english voice, or another US English voice, the strange 
>>> pronunciation is used.
>>> Very odd. indeed.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>>> quieter.” 
>>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com 
>>>> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when 
>>>>> just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it 
>>>>> was saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter 
>>>>> by letter. It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
>>>>> It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the 
>>>>> old word emoji together.
>>>>> So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the 
>>>>> dictionary under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for 
>>>>> the j so it says emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two 
>>>>> syllables at least.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old 
>>>>> pronunciation back.
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>>>>> quieter.” 
>>>>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi <gad...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:gad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same here. It is strange.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Godwin Adoyi Agada
>>>>>> Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
>>>>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Anthony Vece 
>>>>>> <ajv...@gmail.com <mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I noticed the same exact thing
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant <vanlant2...@msn.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Richard Turner]

This is truly fascinating. I just installed Samantha Enhanced and it does the 
strange new pronunciation which is about 5 or 6 syllables.
So, for me, Samantha Enhanced, Tom Enhanced, and Siri Female all do this 
strange new combination of emodican and emogi sort of.
But, being in the US if I switch to Australian Karen, it uses the old familiar 
two syllable word.
This is so strange I may take the time later to call Apple Accessibility and 
have them listen to it and see what they say.
Later,
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:23 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yep, definitely on the current version.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right?
This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.

Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Jerry Mader 
<maderra...@icloud.com<mailto:maderra...@icloud.com>> wrote:

I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it and 
it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't recognize 
the problem either or Samantha.

Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice.


On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Kelby,
Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the Australian 
voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my default US 
english voice, or another US English voice, the strange pronunciation is used.
Very odd. indeed.
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That's odd. I'm not noticing this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when just 
using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was saying 
and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. It is 
spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old word 
emoji together.
So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the dictionary 
under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j so it says 
emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at least.

I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old pronunciation 
back.
Richard





“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi 
<gad...@gmail.com<mailto:gad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Same here. It is strange.


Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com<mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I noticed the same exact thing

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant 
<vanlant2...@msn.com<mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:

My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that label for 
the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen this?  I wonder 
what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to clearly say “emogi 
keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can tell it’s saying 
something about emoticons, the way it says it is really strange.
Robin

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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[kelby carlson]

Yep, definitely on the current version.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right?
> This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Jerry Mader <maderra...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it 
>> and it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't 
>> recognize the problem either or Samantha.
>> 
>> Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App 
>> of choice. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Kelby,
>>> Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the 
>>> Australian voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my 
>>> default US english voice, or another US English voice, the strange 
>>> pronunciation is used.
>>> Very odd. indeed.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>>> quieter.” 
>>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when 
>>>>> just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it 
>>>>> was saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter 
>>>>> by letter. It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
>>>>> It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the 
>>>>> old word emoji together.
>>>>> So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the 
>>>>> dictionary under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for 
>>>>> the j so it says emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two 
>>>>> syllables at least.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old 
>>>>> pronunciation back.
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>>>>> quieter.” 
>>>>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi <gad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same here. It is strange.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Godwin Adoyi Agada
>>>>>> Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
>>>>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>>>>>> Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I noticed the same exact thing
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that 
>>>>>>> label for the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else 
>>>>>>> seen this?  I wonder what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used 
>>>>>>> to clearly say “emogi keyboard” or something like that and now, while I 
>>>>>>> can tell it’s saying something about emoticons, the way it says it is 
>>>>>>> really strange. 
>>>>>

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Richard Turner]

Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right?
This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.

Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Jerry Mader 
<maderra...@icloud.com<mailto:maderra...@icloud.com>> wrote:

I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it and 
it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't recognize 
the problem either or Samantha.

Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice.


On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Kelby,
Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the Australian 
voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my default US 
english voice, or another US English voice, the strange pronunciation is used.
Very odd. indeed.
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That's odd. I'm not noticing this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when just 
using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was saying 
and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. It is 
spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old word 
emoji together.
So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the dictionary 
under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j so it says 
emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at least.

I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old pronunciation 
back.
Richard





“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi 
<gad...@gmail.com<mailto:gad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Same here. It is strange.


Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com<mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I noticed the same exact thing

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant 
<vanlant2...@msn.com<mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:

My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that label for 
the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen this?  I wonder 
what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to clearly say “emogi 
keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can tell it’s saying 
something about emoticons, the way it says it is really strange.
Robin

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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Jerry Mader]

I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it and 
it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't recognize 
the problem either or Samantha.

Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice. 


> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Kelby,
> Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the 
> Australian voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my 
> default US english voice, or another US English voice, the strange 
> pronunciation is used.
> Very odd. indeed.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when 
>>> just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was 
>>> saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by 
>>> letter. It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
>>> It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old 
>>> word emoji together.
>>> So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the 
>>> dictionary under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for 
>>> the j so it says emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two 
>>> syllables at least.
>>> 
>>> I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old 
>>> pronunciation back.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>>> quieter.” 
>>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi <gad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Same here. It is strange.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Godwin Adoyi Agada
>>>> Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
>>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>>>> Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
>>>>  
>>>> I noticed the same exact thing
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that 
>>>>> label for the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen 
>>>>> this?  I wonder what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to 
>>>>> clearly say “emogi keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can 
>>>>> tell it’s saying something about emoticons, the way it says it is really 
>>>>> strange. 
>>>>> Robin
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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[kelby carlson]

Richard,

I'm using the enhanced version of iOS Samantha. I use it for pretty much 
everything on my phone. (Sidenote: I like Alex, but am not sure why there is so 
much enthusiasm there.) I just checked the keyboard again and it pronounces the 
word emoji normally.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Kelby,
> Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the 
> Australian voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my 
> default US english voice, or another US English voice, the strange 
> pronunciation is used.
> Very odd. indeed.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when 
>>> just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was 
>>> saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by 
>>> letter. It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
>>> It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old 
>>> word emoji together.
>>> So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the 
>>> dictionary under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for 
>>> the j so it says emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two 
>>> syllables at least.
>>> 
>>> I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old 
>>> pronunciation back.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>>> quieter.” 
>>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi <gad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Same here. It is strange.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Godwin Adoyi Agada
>>>> Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
>>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>>>> Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
>>>>  
>>>> I noticed the same exact thing
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that 
>>>>> label for the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen 
>>>>> this?  I wonder what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to 
>>>>> clearly say “emogi keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can 
>>>>> tell it’s saying something about emoticons, the way it says it is really 
>>>>> strange. 
>>>>> Robin
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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Richard Turner]

Kelby,
Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the Australian 
voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my default US 
english voice, or another US English voice, the strange pronunciation is used.
Very odd. indeed.
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That's odd. I'm not noticing this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when just 
using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was saying 
and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. It is 
spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old word 
emoji together.
So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the dictionary 
under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j so it says 
emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at least.

I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old pronunciation 
back.
Richard





“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi 
<gad...@gmail.com<mailto:gad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Same here. It is strange.


Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com<mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I noticed the same exact thing

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant 
<vanlant2...@msn.com<mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:

My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that label for 
the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen this?  I wonder 
what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to clearly say “emogi 
keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can tell it’s saying 
something about emoticons, the way it says it is really strange.
Robin

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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[kelby carlson]

That's odd. I'm not noticing this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when 
> just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was 
> saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by 
> letter. It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
> It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old 
> word emoji together.
> So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the 
> dictionary under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the 
> j so it says emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables 
> at least.
> 
> I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old 
> pronunciation back.
> Richard
> 
>  
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi <gad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Same here. It is strange.
>> 
>> 
>> Godwin Adoyi Agada
>> Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>> Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade
>>  
>> I noticed the same exact thing
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that label 
>>> for the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen this?  I 
>>> wonder what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to clearly say 
>>> “emogi keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can tell it’s 
>>> saying something about emoticons, the way it says it is really strange. 
>>> Robin
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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Richard Turner]

Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when just 
using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was saying 
and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. It is 
spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old word 
emoji together.
So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the dictionary 
under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j so it says 
emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at least.

I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old pronunciation 
back.
Richard





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- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi 
<gad...@gmail.com<mailto:gad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Same here. It is strange.


Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

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I noticed the same exact thing

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant 
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My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that label for 
the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen this?  I wonder 
what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to clearly say “emogi 
keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can tell it’s saying 
something about emoticons, the way it says it is really strange.
Robin

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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Godwin Adoyi]

Same here. It is strange.


Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

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I noticed the same exact thing

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant 
<vanlant2...@msn.com<mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:

My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that label for 
the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen this?  I wonder 
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Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[Anthony Vece]

I noticed the same exact thing

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
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> My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that label 
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emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

[R Van Lant]

My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that label for 
the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen this?  I wonder 
what changed.  I can't recall, but I think it used to clearly say "emogi 
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