Re: switching to ios only

[Richard Turner]

Well, control+up and down arrows will move you to the top and bottom of the 
screen, but not inside a document. Command+up and down arrows will move you to 
the top and bottom of the document, though I would never trust it in Word or 
Pages. They are notorious for misreporting the cursor position with VoiceOver.
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but that is what I recall. This is why for any serious 
word processing, I use a computer running Word and Jaws.
Richard




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On May 27, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Kliphton Miller 
<kliph...@icloud.com<mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote:

This can be done, I just helped teach a course on iTune U that is called 
“replacing your laptop with an iPad”  You can do it all, and I have been doing 
it for almost 6 months successfully.  I use apps for my banks, and even my 
business apps for distributors work on the iPad.  So it is all a matter of 
personal preference.
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On May 23, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Getting a printer which supports Airprint is a very minor investment if that is 
all holding you back.
Whether just iOS would do the trick for you is something you have to decide, I 
for one would not want to be without a laptop or desktop, but then again I'm 
also a Windows user and you can find some very inexpensive but decent Windows 
computers compared to what Macs cost.
Again, this is strictly my experience and how I like to work, but using Jaws 
and Chrome or Firefox browsing for me is so much more efficient, I have to do a 
lot of checking of my bank and credit card websites for my business and that 
includes copying and pasting stuff from websites into Excel, I use PDF files a 
lot some of which are not accessible hence I use Jaws OCR to recognize and read 
them and again I do a lot of copying and pasting of information from PDF 
reports generated by my point of sale software into Excel and there just is no 
way this can be done efficiently and quickly with iOS.
Then there is working with spreadsheets in general, if that is not something 
you have to do or almost never have to do then maybe that would be OK, I live 
in Excel because of my business.
iOS and thje iPhone are fantastic, but I prefer to use whatever tool is most 
suited and at this point I don't consider iOS a tool which can do it all just 
as in my woodworking the table saw is an incredibly versitiele tool and one no 
serious woodworker can do without, but there are many things where you do need 
additional tools apart from a good table saw.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: switching to ios only

I know at least three people who are iOS only. They aren’t doing complicated 
things, however. The main thing getting in my way of perhaps doing it, is when 
I might need to do major copying and pasting, and being able to print, because 
I can’t connect wirelessly with the printer I have.

On May 23, 2018, at 4:15 AM, Anouk Radix 
<radix.an...@gmail.com<mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less and 
less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting a 
laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 1998 but 
Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. Still its a big 
jump, are there people who have done this already and what are your experiences?
Can office on ios be used?
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: switching to ios only

[Kliphton Miller]

Pages gets the job done on IOS for editing and writing long documents.  I know 
someone who raves about doing things with pages instead of Microsoft word.
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> On May 23, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> If you need to do much serious word processing, then you do not want to limit 
> yourself to iOS only. I do like voice dream writer on my iPhone, but I will 
> always go to my computer and use word if I need to do a lot of writing or 
> editing. I also use windows since Mac computers confuse me to no end. All 
> that interacting and stop interacting stuff...
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On May 23, 2018, at 6:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>> Getting a printer which supports Airprint is a very minor investment if that 
>> is all holding you back.
>> Whether just iOS would do the trick for you is something you have to decide, 
>> I for one would not want to be without a laptop or desktop, but then again 
>> I'm also a Windows user and you can find some very inexpensive but decent 
>> Windows computers compared to what Macs cost.
>> Again, this is strictly my experience and how I like to work, but using Jaws 
>> and Chrome or Firefox browsing for me is so much more efficient, I have to 
>> do a lot of checking of my bank and credit card websites for my business and 
>> that includes copying and pasting stuff from websites into Excel, I use PDF 
>> files a lot some of which are not accessible hence I use Jaws OCR to 
>> recognize and read them and again I do a lot of copying and pasting of 
>> information from PDF reports generated by my point of sale software into 
>> Excel and there just is no way this can be done efficiently and quickly with 
>> iOS.
>> Then there is working with spreadsheets in general, if that is not something 
>> you have to do or almost never have to do then maybe that would be OK, I 
>> live in Excel because of my business.
>> iOS and thje iPhone are fantastic, but I prefer to use whatever tool is most 
>> suited and at this point I don't consider iOS a tool which can do it all 
>> just as in my woodworking the table saw is an incredibly versitiele tool and 
>> one no serious woodworker can do without, but there are many things where 
>> you do need additional tools apart from a good table saw.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Kathy Brandt
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: switching to ios only
>> 
>> I know at least three people who are iOS only. They aren’t doing complicated 
>> things, however. The main thing getting in my way of perhaps doing it, is 
>> when I might need to do major copying and pasting, and being able to print, 
>> because I can’t connect wirelessly with the printer I have.
>> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 4:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>> are your experiences?
>> Can office on ios be used?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: switching to ios only

[Kliphton Miller]

This can be done, I just helped teach a course on iTune U that is called 
“replacing your laptop with an iPad”  You can do it all, and I have been doing 
it for almost 6 months successfully.  I use apps for my banks, and even my 
business apps for distributors work on the iPad.  So it is all a matter of 
personal preference.
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> On May 23, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Getting a printer which supports Airprint is a very minor investment if that 
> is all holding you back.
> Whether just iOS would do the trick for you is something you have to decide, 
> I for one would not want to be without a laptop or desktop, but then again 
> I'm also a Windows user and you can find some very inexpensive but decent 
> Windows computers compared to what Macs cost.
> Again, this is strictly my experience and how I like to work, but using Jaws 
> and Chrome or Firefox browsing for me is so much more efficient, I have to do 
> a lot of checking of my bank and credit card websites for my business and 
> that includes copying and pasting stuff from websites into Excel, I use PDF 
> files a lot some of which are not accessible hence I use Jaws OCR to 
> recognize and read them and again I do a lot of copying and pasting of 
> information from PDF reports generated by my point of sale software into 
> Excel and there just is no way this can be done efficiently and quickly with 
> iOS.
> Then there is working with spreadsheets in general, if that is not something 
> you have to do or almost never have to do then maybe that would be OK, I live 
> in Excel because of my business.
> iOS and thje iPhone are fantastic, but I prefer to use whatever tool is most 
> suited and at this point I don't consider iOS a tool which can do it all just 
> as in my woodworking the table saw is an incredibly versitiele tool and one 
> no serious woodworker can do without, but there are many things where you do 
> need additional tools apart from a good table saw.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Brandt
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: switching to ios only
> 
> I know at least three people who are iOS only. They aren’t doing complicated 
> things, however. The main thing getting in my way of perhaps doing it, is 
> when I might need to do major copying and pasting, and being able to print, 
> because I can’t connect wirelessly with the printer I have.
> 
> On May 23, 2018, at 4:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less and 
> less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting a 
> laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 1998 
> but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. Still its 
> a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what are your 
> experiences?
> Can office on ios be used?
> Greetings, Anouk,
> 
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Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Kliphton Miller]

You can use these commands in any editing app, notes, pages, email, even text 
messaging.  And to go to the top and bottom of text, use control down arrow to 
go to bottom, and control up arrow to go to the beginning.
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> On May 24, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Selecting text with the keyboard with these commands only work if you are 
> editing.So, if in an Email that you are reading, you still have to use the 
> Text Selection, the same on a web page.
> I just tested it.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On May 24, 2018, at 7:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>> Well, that is good to know. However, does this only work in Pages or can you 
>> also use it to select, copy or move text when composing an email, writing a 
>> note etc.? How about selecting text on a web page?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Maria Reyes
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching 
>> to ios only
>> 
>> 
>> So if you want to select text using a Bluetooth keyboard, you press option 
>> shift left, right, or up and down arrows. command o takes you to your 
>> document list, command v pastes. You obviously have your command b for bold 
>> and command i and u for italic and underline. 
>> 
>> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anouk,
>>> 
>>> Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the 
>>> end.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using 
>>>> pages? Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the 
>>>> touchscreen for that?
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
>>>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift 
>>>>> to commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>>>>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>>>>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
>>>>>> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
>>>>>> but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
>>>>>> Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for 
>>>>>> is typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the 
>>>>>> rotor to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I 
>>>>>> think you also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to 
>>>>>> characters, words or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few 
>>>>>> lines, press home to go to the beginning of a line and then hold down 
>>>>>> control+shift and arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use 
>>>>>> Control+c or Control+X to copy or move them etc. These are exactly the 
>>

Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

Great! Thanks,
Greetings,Anouk,

> Op 24 mei 2018, om 22:50 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi Anouk,
> 
> Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using 
>> pages? Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen 
>> for that?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>>> 
>>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift 
>>> to commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
>>>> but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
>>>> Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is 
>>>> typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor 
>>>> to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you 
>>>> also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words 
>>>> or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home 
>>>> to go to the beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and 
>>>> arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to 
>>>> copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when 
>>>> the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a 
>>>> bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing 
>>>> it what is being selected and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Anouk Radix
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
>>>> ios only
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard 
>>>> and pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i 
>>>> know you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
>>>> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document 
>>>> with command+up/command+down arrow?
>>>> Thanks in advance for any info,
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but 
>>>>> very seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It 
>>>>> just depends on what you want to do.  
>>>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it 
>>>>>> less and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>>>>>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had 
>>>>>> laptops since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a 
>>>>>> waste of money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done 
>>>>>> this already and what are your experiences?
>>>>

Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Russ Kiehne]

Perhaps the following will help.  From the ios 11 users guide.

Use these commands (with Quick Nav turned off) to work with text. VoiceOver
reads the text as you move the insertion point.

Go forward or back one character:
Right Arrow or Left Arrow
Go forward or back one word:
Option–Right Arrow or Option–Left Arrow
Go up or down one line:
Up Arrow or Down Arrow
Go to the beginning or end of the line:
Command–Left Arrow or Command–Down Arrow
Go to the beginning or end of the paragraph:
Option–Up Arrow or Option–Down Arrow
Go to the previous or next paragraph:
Option–Up Arrow or Option–Down Arrow
Go to the top or bottom of the text field:
Command–Up Arrow or Command–Down Arrow
Select text as you move:
Shift + any of the insertion point movement commands above
Select all text:
Command–A
Copy, cut, or paste the selected text:
Command–C, Command–X, or Command–V
Undo or redo last change:
Command–Z or Shift–Command–Z


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching 
to ios only


There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient 
with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long 
text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, 
for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to 
use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words or lines to 
select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the 
beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and arrow right to 
select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to copy or move 
them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when the topic of 
efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a bit easier as 
they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing it what is 
being selected and so on.`~~~`


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
ios only


Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know 
you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c).
And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
command+up/command+down arrow?

Thanks in advance for any info,
Greetings, Anouk,

Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
volgende geschreven:


I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
depends on what you want to do.
My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had 
laptops since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a 
waste of money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this 
already and what are your experiences?

Can office on ios be used?
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Selecting text with the keyboard with these commands only work if you are 
editing.So, if in an Email that you are reading, you still have to use the Text 
Selection, the same on a web page.
I just tested it.
Richard




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On May 24, 2018, at 7:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Well, that is good to know. However, does this only work in Pages or can you 
also use it to select, copy or move text when composing an email, writing a 
note etc.? How about selecting text on a web page?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
ios only


So if you want to select text using a Bluetooth keyboard, you press option 
shift left, right, or up and down arrows. command o takes you to your document 
list, command v pastes. You obviously have your command b for bold and command 
i and u for italic and underline.

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

On May 24, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Anna Dresner 
<wadres...@att.net<mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:

Hi Anouk,

Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.

Best,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix 
<radix.an...@gmail.com<mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using pages? 
Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen for that?
Greetings, Anouk,

Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner 
<wadres...@att.net<mailto:wadres...@att.net>> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Sieghard and all,

I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift to 
commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the commands 
for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so neither did those 
selection commands, but the others worked fine.

Best,
Anna




On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient with 
bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long text, but 
as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, for example, 
you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to use the rotor and 
the text selection set to characters, words or lines to select text, you can't 
just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the beginning of a line and then 
hold down control+shift and arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use 
Control+c or Control+X to copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things 
people talk about when the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted 
people have it a bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as 
they are doing it what is being selected and so on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios 
only

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know you 
can copy and paste with command+v and command+c).
And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
command+up/command+down arrow?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Greetings, Anouk,

Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe 
<candyrl...@gmail.com<mailto:candyrl...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:

I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard for 
when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on the 
individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very seldom 
turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just depends on what 
you want to do.
My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes it 
better and he prefers the bigger screen.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix 
<radix.an...@gmail.com<mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less and 
less. I have been thinking about jus

RE: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, that is good to know. However, does this only work in Pages or can you 
also use it to select, copy or move text when composing an email, writing a 
note etc.? How about selecting text on a web page?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
ios only


So if you want to select text using a Bluetooth keyboard, you press option 
shift left, right, or up and down arrows. command o takes you to your document 
list, command v pastes. You obviously have your command b for bold and command 
i and u for italic and underline. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On May 24, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anouk,
> 
> Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using 
>> pages? Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen 
>> for that?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>>> 
>>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift 
>>> to commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
>>>> but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
>>>> Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is 
>>>> typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor 
>>>> to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you 
>>>> also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words 
>>>> or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home 
>>>> to go to the beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and 
>>>> arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to 
>>>> copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when 
>>>> the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a 
>>>> bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing 
>>>> it what is being selected and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Anouk Radix
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
>>>> ios only
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard 
>>>> and pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i 
>>>> know you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
>>>> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document 
>>>> with command+up/command+down arrow?
>>>> Thanks in advance for any info,
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but 
>>>>> very seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It 
>>>>> just depends on what you want to do.  
>>>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent 

Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Maria Reyes]

So if you want to select text using a Bluetooth keyboard, you press option 
shift left, right, or up and down arrows. command o takes you to your document 
list, command v pastes. You obviously have your command b for bold and command 
i and u for italic and underline. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On May 24, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anouk,
> 
> Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using 
>> pages? Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen 
>> for that?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>>> 
>>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift 
>>> to commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
>>>> but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
>>>> Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is 
>>>> typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor 
>>>> to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you 
>>>> also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words 
>>>> or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home 
>>>> to go to the beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and 
>>>> arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to 
>>>> copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when 
>>>> the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a 
>>>> bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing 
>>>> it what is being selected and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Anouk Radix
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
>>>> ios only
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard 
>>>> and pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i 
>>>> know you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
>>>> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document 
>>>> with command+up/command+down arrow?
>>>> Thanks in advance for any info,
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but 
>>>>> very seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It 
>>>>> just depends on what you want to do.  
>>>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it 
>>>>>> less and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>>>>>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had 
>>>>>> laptops

Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Anouk,

Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.

Best,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using pages? 
> Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen for that?
> Greetings, Anouk,
> 
>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>> 
>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift to 
>> commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
>>> but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
>>> Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is 
>>> typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor 
>>> to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you 
>>> also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words 
>>> or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home to 
>>> go to the beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and arrow 
>>> right to select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to copy 
>>> or move them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when the 
>>> topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a bit 
>>> easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing it 
>>> what is being selected and so on.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> Anouk Radix
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
>>> ios only
>>> 
>>> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard 
>>> and pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i 
>>> know you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
>>> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
>>> command+up/command+down arrow?
>>> Thanks in advance for any info,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
>>>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>>>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>>>> depends on what you want to do.  
>>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>>>>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had 
>>>>> laptops since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a 
>>>>> waste of money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this 
>>>>> already and what are your experiences?
>>>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
>>>>> list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather

Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using pages? 
Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen for that?
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi Sieghard and all,
> 
> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift to 
> commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the commands 
> for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so neither did 
> those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
>> you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient 
>> with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long 
>> text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, 
>> for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to 
>> use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words or lines to 
>> select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the 
>> beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and arrow right to 
>> select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to copy or move 
>> them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when the topic of 
>> efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a bit easier as 
>> they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing it what is 
>> being selected and so on.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anouk 
>> Radix
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
>> ios only
>> 
>> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
>> pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know 
>> you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
>> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
>> command+up/command+down arrow?
>> Thanks in advance for any info,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>>> depends on what you want to do.  
>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>>>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops 
>>>> since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of 
>>>> money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already 
>>>> and what are your experiences?
>>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
>>>> list.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
>>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>> 
>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
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RE: switching to ios only

[Carolyn Arnold]

That sounds right on the mark, Daniel. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: danielmcgee...@icloud.com [mailto:danielmcgee...@icloud.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: switching to ios only

My Mac book pro will be 7 years old this year and while I still use it now and 
then. I find myself using my iPhone and iPad more these days. Granted back 
then, I was in college and had to use a computer for typing purposes. Essays, 
evaluations course work etc. So a computer was required for those long typing 
periods. 

I think, whatever situation one is in, you as the user needs to decide for 
yourself what kit your willing to learn and depending on your skills with 
technology, and platform you want to work with. 

At the end of the day, these are tools and one needs to find the right tool or 
tools to fit work, or play. If that makes sense. 

Regards 

Daniel 




On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 5:49 PM +0100, "Anouk Radix" <radix.an...@gmail.com 
<mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com> > wrote:



For me personally i would mostly use it for at home or on the go. 
Reading books, podcasts, the news, watching tv looking stuff up on the 
internet, whatsapp. Using my banking app and doing some basic text editing and 
mail.
I agree that some websites can be problematic on ios though so thats 
something htat I will have to look into. Wikipedia, which i use most frequently 
works fine though.
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 24 mei 2018, om 18:42 heeft Sieghard Weitzel  het volgende 
geschreven:
> 
> Mostly on needs and only somewhat on preference. There is no way even 
if I wanted to that I could ever use just iOS for what I do. If you don't need 
a PC for work or a business and all you do is deal with email, browse the web a 
bit (here it already gets iffy) and want to do some online banking, social 
media, home automation then no problem. But as I said, if you spend a lot of 
time online then a PC with Jaws (or NVDA for those who are profficient with it) 
beats Voiceover hands down and I wold probably include Voiceover on the Mac in 
this.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of SoonerAnnie
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: switching to ios only
> 
> I, too, use only my iPhone! It is so much easier for me, and I can 
take it anywhere! I do have a Bluetooth keyboard which I use when I am doing a 
lot of typing, and, since my Windows laptop bit the dust a couple years ago, I 
haven’t been all that interested in getting a new one, especially since I would 
have to learn a new Windows system and figure out if I wanted to keep pouring 
money into Jaws. I am not doing anything that would necessitate using Word, 
Excel, etc., so am very happy with IOS! As others have said, it is a personal 
choice based on your preferences and needs. 
> 
> Ann 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go 
on a deep dive with the iWork suite. 
>> 
>> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth 
keyboard for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends 
on the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just depends 
on what you want to do.  
>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  
He likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use 
it less and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops 
since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what are 
your experiences?
>>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V 
iPhone list.
>>>> 
>>>> I

Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Sieghard and all,

I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift to 
commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the commands 
for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so neither did those 
selection commands, but the others worked fine.

Best,
Anna




> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
> you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient 
> with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long 
> text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, 
> for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to 
> use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words or lines to 
> select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the 
> beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and arrow right to 
> select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to copy or move them 
> etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when the topic of 
> efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a bit easier as 
> they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing it what is being 
> selected and so on.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anouk 
> Radix
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
> ios only
> 
> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
> pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know 
> you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
> command+up/command+down arrow?
> Thanks in advance for any info,
> Greetings, Anouk,
> 
>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>> depends on what you want to do.  
>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
>> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>>> are your experiences?
>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
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Re: switching to ios only

[danielmcgee134]

My Mac book pro will be 7 years old this year and while I still 
use it now and then. I find myself using my iPhone and iPad more these days. 
Granted back then, I was in college and had to use a computer for typing 
purposes. Essays, evaluations course work etc. So a computer was required for 
those long typing periods. 
I think, whatever situation one is in, you as the user needs to decide for 
yourself what kit your willing to learn and depending on your skills with 
technology, and platform you want to work with. 
At the end of the day, these are tools and one needs to find the right tool or 
tools to fit work, or play. If that makes sense. 
Regards 
Daniel 









On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 5:49 PM +0100, "Anouk Radix" <radix.an...@gmail.com> 
wrote:










For me personally i would mostly use it for at home or on the go. Reading 
books, podcasts, the news, watching tv looking stuff up on the internet, 
whatsapp. Using my banking app and doing some basic text editing and mail.
I agree that some websites can be problematic on ios though so thats something 
htat I will have to look into. Wikipedia, which i use most frequently works 
fine though.
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 24 mei 2018, om 18:42 heeft Sieghard Weitzel  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Mostly on needs and only somewhat on preference. There is no way even if I 
> wanted to that I could ever use just iOS for what I do. If you don't need a 
> PC for work or a business and all you do is deal with email, browse the web a 
> bit (here it already gets iffy) and want to do some online banking, social 
> media, home automation then no problem. But as I said, if you spend a lot of 
> time online then a PC with Jaws (or NVDA for those who are profficient with 
> it) beats Voiceover hands down and I wold probably include Voiceover on the 
> Mac in this.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of SoonerAnnie
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: switching to ios only
> 
> I, too, use only my iPhone! It is so much easier for me, and I can take it 
> anywhere! I do have a Bluetooth keyboard which I use when I am doing a lot of 
> typing, and, since my Windows laptop bit the dust a couple years ago, I 
> haven’t been all that interested in getting a new one, especially since I 
> would have to learn a new Windows system and figure out if I wanted to keep 
> pouring money into Jaws. I am not doing anything that would necessitate using 
> Word, Excel, etc., so am very happy with IOS! As others have said, it is a 
> personal choice based on your preferences and needs. 
> 
> Ann 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go on a deep 
>> dive with the iWork suite. 
>> 
>> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>>> depends on what you want to do.  
>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>>>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops 
>>>> since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of 
>>>> money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already 
>>>> and what are your experiences?
>>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
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>>>

Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

For me personally i would mostly use it for at home or on the go. Reading 
books, podcasts, the news, watching tv looking stuff up on the internet, 
whatsapp. Using my banking app and doing some basic text editing and mail.
I agree that some websites can be problematic on ios though so thats something 
htat I will have to look into. Wikipedia, which i use most frequently works 
fine though.
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 24 mei 2018, om 18:42 heeft Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Mostly on needs and only somewhat on preference. There is no way even if I 
> wanted to that I could ever use just iOS for what I do. If you don't need a 
> PC for work or a business and all you do is deal with email, browse the web a 
> bit (here it already gets iffy) and want to do some online banking, social 
> media, home automation then no problem. But as I said, if you spend a lot of 
> time online then a PC with Jaws (or NVDA for those who are profficient with 
> it) beats Voiceover hands down and I wold probably include Voiceover on the 
> Mac in this.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> SoonerAnnie
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: switching to ios only
> 
> I, too, use only my iPhone! It is so much easier for me, and I can take it 
> anywhere! I do have a Bluetooth keyboard which I use when I am doing a lot of 
> typing, and, since my Windows laptop bit the dust a couple years ago, I 
> haven’t been all that interested in getting a new one, especially since I 
> would have to learn a new Windows system and figure out if I wanted to keep 
> pouring money into Jaws. I am not doing anything that would necessitate using 
> Word, Excel, etc., so am very happy with IOS! As others have said, it is a 
> personal choice based on your preferences and needs. 
> 
> Ann 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Maria Reyes <mgrp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go on a deep 
>> dive with the iWork suite. 
>> 
>> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>>> depends on what you want to do.  
>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>>>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops 
>>>> since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of 
>>>> money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already 
>>>> and what are your experiences?
>>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
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RE: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient with 
bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long text, but 
as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, for example, 
you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to use the rotor and 
the text selection set to characters, words or lines to select text, you can't 
just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the beginning of a line and then 
hold down control+shift and arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use 
Control+c or Control+X to copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things 
people talk about when the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted 
people have it a bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as 
they are doing it what is being selected and so on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios 
only

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know you 
can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
command+up/command+down arrow?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard for 
> when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on the 
> individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very seldom 
> turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just depends on 
> what you want to do.  
> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>> are your experiences?
>> Can office on ios be used?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
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RE: switching to ios only

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Mostly on needs and only somewhat on preference. There is no way even if I 
wanted to that I could ever use just iOS for what I do. If you don't need a PC 
for work or a business and all you do is deal with email, browse the web a bit 
(here it already gets iffy) and want to do some online banking, social media, 
home automation then no problem. But as I said, if you spend a lot of time 
online then a PC with Jaws (or NVDA for those who are profficient with it) 
beats Voiceover hands down and I wold probably include Voiceover on the Mac in 
this.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
SoonerAnnie
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: switching to ios only

I, too, use only my iPhone! It is so much easier for me, and I can take it 
anywhere! I do have a Bluetooth keyboard which I use when I am doing a lot of 
typing, and, since my Windows laptop bit the dust a couple years ago, I haven’t 
been all that interested in getting a new one, especially since I would have to 
learn a new Windows system and figure out if I wanted to keep pouring money 
into Jaws. I am not doing anything that would necessitate using Word, Excel, 
etc., so am very happy with IOS! As others have said, it is a personal choice 
based on your preferences and needs. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Maria Reyes <mgrp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go on a deep 
> dive with the iWork suite. 
> 
> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>> depends on what you want to do.  
>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
>> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>>> are your experiences?
>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
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Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

Thanks for the podcast tip, i will check it out though of course this doe snot 
take voiceover into account…
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 23 mei 2018, om 21:40 heeft Maria Reyes  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go on a deep 
> dive with the iWork suite. 
> 
> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>> depends on what you want to do.  
>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
>> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>>> are your experiences?
>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
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Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

I used to game as well but nothing new seems to come out or if it does often 
its also available for ios.
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 24 mei 2018, om 07:26 heeft lenron brown  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> No way I could or would ever give up my windows computer, I also have
> a mac book but I don't enjoy using it as much because of all the
> interacting and not interacting it drives me nuts. Also I game a bit
> as well so don't want to have to just rely on IOS.
> 
> On 5/23/18, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>> I, too, use only my iPhone! It is so much easier for me, and I can take it
>> anywhere! I do have a Bluetooth keyboard which I use when I am doing a lot
>> of typing, and, since my Windows laptop bit the dust a couple years ago, I
>> haven’t been all that interested in getting a new one, especially since I
>> would have to learn a new Windows system and figure out if I wanted to keep
>> pouring money into Jaws. I am not doing anything that would necessitate
>> using Word, Excel, etc., so am very happy with IOS! As others have said, it
>> is a personal choice based on your preferences and needs.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go on a
>>> deep dive with the iWork suite.
>>> 
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 On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
 
 I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard
 for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on
 the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but
 very seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It
 just depends on what you want to do.
 My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He
 likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it
> less and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not
> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had
> laptops since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a
> waste of money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done
> this already and what are your experiences?
> Can office on ios be used?
> Greetings, Anouk,
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shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know you 
can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
command+up/command+down arrow?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard for 
> when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on the 
> individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very seldom 
> turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just depends on 
> what you want to do.  
> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>> are your experiences?
>> Can office on ios be used?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

Voicedream writer is not available here in the Netherlands but I am hoping word 
for ios and or pages will do the job. WIll buy a bluetooth keyboard and find 
htat out before making the jump though.
Greetings,Anouk,

> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:42 heeft Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> If you need to do much serious word processing, then you do not want to limit 
> yourself to iOS only. I do like voice dream writer on my iPhone, but I will 
> always go to my computer and use word if I need to do a lot of writing or 
> editing. I also use windows since Mac computers confuse me to no end. All 
> that interacting and stop interacting stuff...
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On May 23, 2018, at 6:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>> Getting a printer which supports Airprint is a very minor investment if that 
>> is all holding you back.
>> Whether just iOS would do the trick for you is something you have to decide, 
>> I for one would not want to be without a laptop or desktop, but then again 
>> I'm also a Windows user and you can find some very inexpensive but decent 
>> Windows computers compared to what Macs cost.
>> Again, this is strictly my experience and how I like to work, but using Jaws 
>> and Chrome or Firefox browsing for me is so much more efficient, I have to 
>> do a lot of checking of my bank and credit card websites for my business and 
>> that includes copying and pasting stuff from websites into Excel, I use PDF 
>> files a lot some of which are not accessible hence I use Jaws OCR to 
>> recognize and read them and again I do a lot of copying and pasting of 
>> information from PDF reports generated by my point of sale software into 
>> Excel and there just is no way this can be done efficiently and quickly with 
>> iOS.
>> Then there is working with spreadsheets in general, if that is not something 
>> you have to do or almost never have to do then maybe that would be OK, I 
>> live in Excel because of my business.
>> iOS and thje iPhone are fantastic, but I prefer to use whatever tool is most 
>> suited and at this point I don't consider iOS a tool which can do it all 
>> just as in my woodworking the table saw is an incredibly versitiele tool and 
>> one no serious woodworker can do without, but there are many things where 
>> you do need additional tools apart from a good table saw.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Kathy Brandt
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: switching to ios only
>> 
>> I know at least three people who are iOS only. They aren’t doing complicated 
>> things, however. The main thing getting in my way of perhaps doing it, is 
>> when I might need to do major copying and pasting, and being able to print, 
>> because I can’t connect wirelessly with the printer I have.
>> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 4:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>> are your experiences?
>> Can office on ios be used?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

My printer has airprint so htat is not a problem here luckily. I have some 
files that i would still want to access but could get a bigger icloud account 
and put that stuff there. I hear good htings about apps like filebrowser for 
moving files around. I did read up on the (voiceover)shortcuts that you can use 
with a wireless keyboard and an iphone and you can really do a lot htat way.
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 23 mei 2018, om 15:17 heeft Kathy Brandt  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> I know at least three people who are iOS only. They aren’t doing complicated 
> things, however. The main thing getting in my way of perhaps doing it, is 
> when I might need to do major copying and pasting, and being able to print, 
> because I can’t connect wirelessly with the printer I have.
> 
> On May 23, 2018, at 4:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less and 
> less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting a 
> laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 1998 
> but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. Still its 
> a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what are your 
> experiences?
> Can office on ios be used?
> Greetings, Anouk,
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RE: switching to ios only

[Carolyn Arnold]

When the time comes that my computer has died, I'd use the iPhone only, if 
there was a word processing program in it. There is notes, but it would be hard 
for me to keep three programs that have figures in them. 

I am getting used to the keyboard and do not want a physical one. I never 
thought I'd say that. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
SoonerAnnie
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: switching to ios only

I, too, use only my iPhone! It is so much easier for me, and I can take it 
anywhere! I do have a Bluetooth keyboard which I use when I am doing a lot of 
typing, and, since my Windows laptop bit the dust a couple years ago, I haven’t 
been all that interested in getting a new one, especially since I would have to 
learn a new Windows system and figure out if I wanted to keep pouring money 
into Jaws. I am not doing anything that would necessitate using Word, Excel, 
etc., so am very happy with IOS! As others have said, it is a personal choice 
based on your preferences and needs. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Maria Reyes <mgrp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go on a deep 
> dive with the iWork suite. 
> 
> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>> depends on what you want to do.  
>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
>> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>>> are your experiences?
>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: switching to ios only

[lenron brown]

No way I could or would ever give up my windows computer, I also have
a mac book but I don't enjoy using it as much because of all the
interacting and not interacting it drives me nuts. Also I game a bit
as well so don't want to have to just rely on IOS.

On 5/23/18, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> I, too, use only my iPhone! It is so much easier for me, and I can take it
> anywhere! I do have a Bluetooth keyboard which I use when I am doing a lot
> of typing, and, since my Windows laptop bit the dust a couple years ago, I
> haven’t been all that interested in getting a new one, especially since I
> would have to learn a new Windows system and figure out if I wanted to keep
> pouring money into Jaws. I am not doing anything that would necessitate
> using Word, Excel, etc., so am very happy with IOS! As others have said, it
> is a personal choice based on your preferences and needs.
>
> Ann
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 23, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>>
>> Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go on a
>> deep dive with the iWork suite.
>>
>> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
>>
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard
>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on
>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but
>>> very seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It
>>> just depends on what you want to do.
>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He
>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:

 Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it
 less and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not
 getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had
 laptops since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a
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 Can office on ios be used?
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Re: switching to ios only

[SoonerAnnie]

I, too, use only my iPhone! It is so much easier for me, and I can take it 
anywhere! I do have a Bluetooth keyboard which I use when I am doing a lot of 
typing, and, since my Windows laptop bit the dust a couple years ago, I haven’t 
been all that interested in getting a new one, especially since I would have to 
learn a new Windows system and figure out if I wanted to keep pouring money 
into Jaws. I am not doing anything that would necessitate using Word, Excel, 
etc., so am very happy with IOS! As others have said, it is a personal choice 
based on your preferences and needs. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go on a deep 
> dive with the iWork suite. 
> 
> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>> depends on what you want to do.  
>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
>> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
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Re: switching to ios only

[Maria Reyes]

Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go on a deep 
dive with the iWork suite. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
> 
> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard for 
> when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on the 
> individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very seldom 
> turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just depends on 
> what you want to do.  
> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
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>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>> are your experiences?
>> Can office on ios be used?
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Re: switching to ios only

[Candy Lowe]

I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard for 
when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on the 
individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very seldom 
turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just depends on what 
you want to do.  
My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes it 
better and he prefers the bigger screen.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less and 
> less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting a 
> laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 1998 
> but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. Still its 
> a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what are your 
> experiences?
> Can office on ios be used?
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: switching to ios only

[Richard Turner]

If you need to do much serious word processing, then you do not want to limit 
yourself to iOS only. I do like voice dream writer on my iPhone, but I will 
always go to my computer and use word if I need to do a lot of writing or 
editing. I also use windows since Mac computers confuse me to no end. All that 
interacting and stop interacting stuff...

Richard



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On May 23, 2018, at 6:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Getting a printer which supports Airprint is a very minor investment if that is 
all holding you back.
Whether just iOS would do the trick for you is something you have to decide, I 
for one would not want to be without a laptop or desktop, but then again I'm 
also a Windows user and you can find some very inexpensive but decent Windows 
computers compared to what Macs cost.
Again, this is strictly my experience and how I like to work, but using Jaws 
and Chrome or Firefox browsing for me is so much more efficient, I have to do a 
lot of checking of my bank and credit card websites for my business and that 
includes copying and pasting stuff from websites into Excel, I use PDF files a 
lot some of which are not accessible hence I use Jaws OCR to recognize and read 
them and again I do a lot of copying and pasting of information from PDF 
reports generated by my point of sale software into Excel and there just is no 
way this can be done efficiently and quickly with iOS.
Then there is working with spreadsheets in general, if that is not something 
you have to do or almost never have to do then maybe that would be OK, I live 
in Excel because of my business.
iOS and thje iPhone are fantastic, but I prefer to use whatever tool is most 
suited and at this point I don't consider iOS a tool which can do it all just 
as in my woodworking the table saw is an incredibly versitiele tool and one no 
serious woodworker can do without, but there are many things where you do need 
additional tools apart from a good table saw.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
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Subject: Re: switching to ios only

I know at least three people who are iOS only. They aren’t doing complicated 
things, however. The main thing getting in my way of perhaps doing it, is when 
I might need to do major copying and pasting, and being able to print, because 
I can’t connect wirelessly with the printer I have.

On May 23, 2018, at 4:15 AM, Anouk Radix 
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Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less and 
less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting a 
laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 1998 but 
Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. Still its a big 
jump, are there people who have done this already and what are your experiences?
Can office on ios be used?
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RE: switching to ios only

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Getting a printer which supports Airprint is a very minor investment if that is 
all holding you back.
Whether just iOS would do the trick for you is something you have to decide, I 
for one would not want to be without a laptop or desktop, but then again I'm 
also a Windows user and you can find some very inexpensive but decent Windows 
computers compared to what Macs cost.
Again, this is strictly my experience and how I like to work, but using Jaws 
and Chrome or Firefox browsing for me is so much more efficient, I have to do a 
lot of checking of my bank and credit card websites for my business and that 
includes copying and pasting stuff from websites into Excel, I use PDF files a 
lot some of which are not accessible hence I use Jaws OCR to recognize and read 
them and again I do a lot of copying and pasting of information from PDF 
reports generated by my point of sale software into Excel and there just is no 
way this can be done efficiently and quickly with iOS.
Then there is working with spreadsheets in general, if that is not something 
you have to do or almost never have to do then maybe that would be OK, I live 
in Excel because of my business.
iOS and thje iPhone are fantastic, but I prefer to use whatever tool is most 
suited and at this point I don't consider iOS a tool which can do it all just 
as in my woodworking the table saw is an incredibly versitiele tool and one no 
serious woodworker can do without, but there are many things where you do need 
additional tools apart from a good table saw.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: switching to ios only

I know at least three people who are iOS only. They aren’t doing complicated 
things, however. The main thing getting in my way of perhaps doing it, is when 
I might need to do major copying and pasting, and being able to print, because 
I can’t connect wirelessly with the printer I have.

On May 23, 2018, at 4:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less and 
less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting a 
laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 1998 but 
Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. Still its a big 
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Can office on ios be used?
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Re: switching to ios only

[Kathy Brandt]

I know at least three people who are iOS only. They aren’t doing complicated 
things, however. The main thing getting in my way of perhaps doing it, is when 
I might need to do major copying and pasting, and being able to print, because 
I can’t connect wirelessly with the printer I have.

On May 23, 2018, at 4:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:

Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less and 
less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting a 
laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 1998 but 
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switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less and 
less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting a 
laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 1998 but 
Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. Still its a big 
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