RE: Bi14 experiences?
Good idea, Andy. Thanks. Now that I am retired I don't get my hands on the latest goodies any more ... Susie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Bi14 experiences? Any such compendium would be out of date within a short time after compilation because there are constantly new entries coming out in the field. You might want to go to www.blindbargains.com and peruse their articles and podcasts that relate to the exhibits at the recent ACB and NFB conventions as well as the CSUN conference in March of this year. Andy - Original Message - From: "Susie Stageberg" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 10:26 AM Subject: RE: Bi14 experiences? I am still pondering which Braille display to get; 14 cells just doesn't seem like very many to tell you what the phone is doing. On the other hand, it would be compact and easy to toss in a bag. I looked at the Orbit, and it's a cute little device, but it's bigger than I thought it would be, as far as front-to-back. I realize I am spoiled by the 70-cell Alva I use on the desktop and the 32-cell BrailleNote. Maybe 14 isn't so bad? Is there someplace where someone has reviewed all the different displays that you can use with the phone? The NFB used to do this ... Susie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Bi14 experiences? The exchange rate hits hard. Baum made excellent displays, pity the firm crashed. 14 seems to be the new 18. On 8/14/2018 5:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > That seems like quite a large price difference. Here in the US, the price > difference between the two devices is $300. I’m just not sure if I 14 sale > display is going to be enough, even with a better keyboard. I wish they > would settle on 20, like the folks from Baum did. But that device was so > darn complicated. I guess nothings perfect. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >> >> You're welcome Mary. >> >> >> I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on >> that unit is great. >> >> >> I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to >> send it back myself. >> >> >> The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic. >> >> >> Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't >> loud. >> >> >> Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the >> $1350AUD that Humanware charge. >> >> >> Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go. >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> Sadam Ahmed >> >> >>> On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A >>> friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like >>> the keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar >>> layout in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting >>> tomorrow and try to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy >>> keyboard. If not, I will reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can >>> see a focus before laying out that kind of money. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order >>>> placement. >>>> >>>> They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. >>>> >>>> The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very >>>> mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. >>>> >>>> It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in >>>> Australia. >>>> >>>> Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my >>>> phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. >>>> >>>> Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to >>>> buy. just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>> >>>>> On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> I have to a
Re: Bi14 experiences?
You might want to consider the RefreshaBraille from APH. it has 18 cells and it is designed in such a way that you can simply turn it around if you would rather have the cells on top rather than on the bottom. i had one years ago and sold it because I found that I wasnt using it as much as I thought I would. Andy - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 10:26 AM Subject: Re: Bi14 experiences? Well, for whatever it maybe worth, I have decided to return my BI14 that was on loan. I just don’t like the keyboard. And frankly, I don’t think the 14 cell display is what I want. I don’t think they make what I want, because I don’t need 40. I want something that does have notetaking capability, but 40 is too darn expensive! Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2018, at 10:41 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: The exchange rate hits hard. Baum made excellent displays, pity the firm crashed. 14 seems to be the new 18. On 8/14/2018 5:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: That seems like quite a large price difference. Here in the US, the price difference between the two devices is $300. I’m just not sure if I 14 sale display is going to be enough, even with a better keyboard. I wish they would settle on 20, like the folks from Baum did. But that device was so darn complicated. I guess nothings perfect. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: You're welcome Mary. I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on that unit is great. I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to send it back myself. The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic. Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't loud. Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the $1350AUD that Humanware charge. Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go. Best, Sadam Ahmed On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like the keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar layout in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting tomorrow and try to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy keyboard. If not, I will reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can see a focus before laying out that kind of money. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order placement. They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. All the best, Sadam Ahmed On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old system was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would be curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 on your Apple TV. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott wrote: Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided to keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on it. It has some note taking capability and works very well with the computer. I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two Apple TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the 14 cell display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when using it with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like being able to connect it to several devices at once. My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still not working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing it as I already have the Braille Sense. One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in the word "type" they came that as the letter quite. I have found this to be the case on other displays as well. Barr
Re: Bi14 experiences?
Any such compendium would be out of date within a short time after compilation because there are constantly new entries coming out in the field. You might want to go to www.blindbargains.com and peruse their articles and podcasts that relate to the exhibits at the recent ACB and NFB conventions as well as the CSUN conference in March of this year. Andy - Original Message - From: "Susie Stageberg" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 10:26 AM Subject: RE: Bi14 experiences? I am still pondering which Braille display to get; 14 cells just doesn't seem like very many to tell you what the phone is doing. On the other hand, it would be compact and easy to toss in a bag. I looked at the Orbit, and it's a cute little device, but it's bigger than I thought it would be, as far as front-to-back. I realize I am spoiled by the 70-cell Alva I use on the desktop and the 32-cell BrailleNote. Maybe 14 isn't so bad? Is there someplace where someone has reviewed all the different displays that you can use with the phone? The NFB used to do this ... Susie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Bi14 experiences? The exchange rate hits hard. Baum made excellent displays, pity the firm crashed. 14 seems to be the new 18. On 8/14/2018 5:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: That seems like quite a large price difference. Here in the US, the price difference between the two devices is $300. I’m just not sure if I 14 sale display is going to be enough, even with a better keyboard. I wish they would settle on 20, like the folks from Baum did. But that device was so darn complicated. I guess nothings perfect. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: You're welcome Mary. I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on that unit is great. I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to send it back myself. The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic. Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't loud. Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the $1350AUD that Humanware charge. Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go. Best, Sadam Ahmed On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like the keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar layout in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting tomorrow and try to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy keyboard. If not, I will reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can see a focus before laying out that kind of money. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order placement. They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. All the best, Sadam Ahmed On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old system was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would be curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 on your Apple TV. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott wrote: Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided to keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on it. It has some note taking capability and works very well with the computer. I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two Apple TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the 14 cell display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when using it with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like being able to connect it to several devices at once. My focus 40 wa
Re: Bi14 experiences?
Well, for whatever it maybe worth, I have decided to return my BI14 that was on loan. I just don’t like the keyboard. And frankly, I don’t think the 14 cell display is what I want. I don’t think they make what I want, because I don’t need 40. I want something that does have notetaking capability, but 40 is too darn expensive! Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2018, at 10:41 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > > > The exchange rate hits hard. > Baum made excellent displays, pity the firm crashed. > 14 seems to be the new 18. > >> On 8/14/2018 5:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> That seems like quite a large price difference. Here in the US, the price >> difference between the two devices is $300. I’m just not sure if I 14 sale >> display is going to be enough, even with a better keyboard. I wish they >> would settle on 20, like the folks from Baum did. But that device was so >> darn complicated. I guess nothings perfect. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >>> >>> You're welcome Mary. >>> >>> >>> I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on >>> that unit is great. >>> >>> >>> I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to >>> send it back myself. >>> >>> >>> The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic. >>> >>> >>> Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't loud. >>> >>> >>> Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the $1350AUD >>> that Humanware charge. >>> >>> >>> Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go. >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> Sadam Ahmed >>> >>> On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like the keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar layout in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting tomorrow and try to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy keyboard. If not, I will reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can see a focus before laying out that kind of money. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > > > I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order > placement. > > They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. > > The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very > mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. > > It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. > > Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my > phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. > > Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. > just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. > > All the best, > > Sadam Ahmed > >> On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to >> an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is >> so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote >> that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to >> me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old >> system was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would >> be curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 >> on your Apple TV. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation >>> focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided >>> to keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on >>> it. It has some note taking capability and works very well with the >>> computer. >>> >>> I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two >>> Apple TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the >>> 14 cell display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when >>> using it with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like >>> being able to connect it to several devices at once. >>> >>> My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still >>> not working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing >>> it as I already have the Braille Sense. >>> >>> One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you >>> sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the
RE: Bi14 experiences?
I am still pondering which Braille display to get; 14 cells just doesn't seem like very many to tell you what the phone is doing. On the other hand, it would be compact and easy to toss in a bag. I looked at the Orbit, and it's a cute little device, but it's bigger than I thought it would be, as far as front-to-back. I realize I am spoiled by the 70-cell Alva I use on the desktop and the 32-cell BrailleNote. Maybe 14 isn't so bad? Is there someplace where someone has reviewed all the different displays that you can use with the phone? The NFB used to do this ... Susie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Bi14 experiences? The exchange rate hits hard. Baum made excellent displays, pity the firm crashed. 14 seems to be the new 18. On 8/14/2018 5:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > That seems like quite a large price difference. Here in the US, the price > difference between the two devices is $300. I’m just not sure if I 14 sale > display is going to be enough, even with a better keyboard. I wish they would > settle on 20, like the folks from Baum did. But that device was so darn > complicated. I guess nothings perfect. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >> >> You're welcome Mary. >> >> >> I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on >> that unit is great. >> >> >> I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to >> send it back myself. >> >> >> The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic. >> >> >> Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't loud. >> >> >> Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the $1350AUD >> that Humanware charge. >> >> >> Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go. >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> Sadam Ahmed >> >> >>> On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A >>> friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like the >>> keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar layout >>> in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting tomorrow and try >>> to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy keyboard. If not, I >>> will reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can see a focus before >>> laying out that kind of money. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order >>>> placement. >>>> >>>> They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. >>>> >>>> The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very >>>> mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. >>>> >>>> It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. >>>> >>>> Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my >>>> phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. >>>> >>>> Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. >>>> just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>> >>>>> On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to >>>>> an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is >>>>> so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote >>>>> that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to >>>>> me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old system >>>>> was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would be >>>>> curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 on >>>>> your Apple TV. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott w
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The exchange rate hits hard. Baum made excellent displays, pity the firm crashed. 14 seems to be the new 18. On 8/14/2018 5:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: That seems like quite a large price difference. Here in the US, the price difference between the two devices is $300. I’m just not sure if I 14 sale display is going to be enough, even with a better keyboard. I wish they would settle on 20, like the folks from Baum did. But that device was so darn complicated. I guess nothings perfect. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: You're welcome Mary. I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on that unit is great. I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to send it back myself. The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic. Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't loud. Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the $1350AUD that Humanware charge. Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go. Best, Sadam Ahmed On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like the keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar layout in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting tomorrow and try to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy keyboard. If not, I will reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can see a focus before laying out that kind of money. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order placement. They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. All the best, Sadam Ahmed On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old system was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would be curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 on your Apple TV. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott wrote: Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided to keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on it. It has some note taking capability and works very well with the computer. I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two Apple TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the 14 cell display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when using it with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like being able to connect it to several devices at once. My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still not working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing it as I already have the Braille Sense. One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in the word "type" they came that as the letter quite. I have found this to be the case on other displays as well. Barry Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length? Have you used other displays, those from humanware or capability. My do you think of the input keys on this compared with other displays you might have used? Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott wrote: Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for example go into your google Account and make sure that notes is turned on. Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure that you are in the Gmail folder when you write the note. Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your note should link up the next time you turn the device on. The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that the notes are turned on within your account. I
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That seems like quite a large price difference. Here in the US, the price difference between the two devices is $300. I’m just not sure if I 14 sale display is going to be enough, even with a better keyboard. I wish they would settle on 20, like the folks from Baum did. But that device was so darn complicated. I guess nothings perfect. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > > You're welcome Mary. > > > I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on > that unit is great. > > > I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to send > it back myself. > > > The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic. > > > Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't loud. > > > Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the $1350AUD > that Humanware charge. > > > Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go. > > > Best, > > > Sadam Ahmed > > >> On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A >> friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like the >> keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar layout >> in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting tomorrow and try >> to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy keyboard. If not, I will >> reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can see a focus before laying out >> that kind of money. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >>> >>> >>> I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order >>> placement. >>> >>> They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. >>> >>> The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very >>> mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. >>> >>> It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. >>> >>> Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my >>> phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. >>> >>> Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. >>> just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Sadam Ahmed >>> On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old system was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would be curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 on your Apple TV. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott wrote: > > Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation > focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided to > keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on it. > It has some note taking capability and works very well with the computer. > > I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two Apple > TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the 14 cell > display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when using it > with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like being able > to connect it to several devices at once. > > My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still not > working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing it as > I already have the Braille Sense. > > One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you > sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in the > word "type" they came that as the letter quite. I have found this to be > the case on other displays as well. > > Barry > > > > Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone > >> On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length? >> Have you used other displays, those from humanware or capability. My do >> you think of the input keys on this compared with other displays you >> might have used? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott wrote: >>> >>> Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for example >>> go into your google Account and make sure that notes is
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You're welcome Mary. I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on that unit is great. I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to send it back myself. The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic. Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't loud. Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the $1350AUD that Humanware charge. Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go. Best, Sadam Ahmed On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like the keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar layout in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting tomorrow and try to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy keyboard. If not, I will reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can see a focus before laying out that kind of money. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order placement. They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. All the best, Sadam Ahmed On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old system was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would be curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 on your Apple TV. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott wrote: Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided to keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on it. It has some note taking capability and works very well with the computer. I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two Apple TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the 14 cell display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when using it with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like being able to connect it to several devices at once. My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still not working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing it as I already have the Braille Sense. One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in the word "type" they came that as the letter quite. I have found this to be the case on other displays as well. Barry Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length? Have you used other displays, those from humanware or capability. My do you think of the input keys on this compared with other displays you might have used? Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott wrote: Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for example go into your google Account and make sure that notes is turned on. Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure that you are in the Gmail folder when you write the note. Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your note should link up the next time you turn the device on. The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that the notes are turned on within your account. I hope this helps. Barryy Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi all, I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the compactness, but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to having so few cells. Especially with word wrap I guess, where sometimes, several cells are blank because the next whole word won’t fit on the line. I also don’t quite understand how the notes feature works. I have entered both my Google and Comcast accounts into the brailliant device. But I’m not sure what happens next. I
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Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like the keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar layout in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting tomorrow and try to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy keyboard. If not, I will reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can see a focus before laying out that kind of money. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > > > I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order > placement. > > They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. > > The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very mushy, > and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. > > It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. > > Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my phone > isn't cutting out as much as it used to. > > Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. just > a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. > > All the best, > > Sadam Ahmed > >> On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to an >> Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is so >> much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote that >> they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to me. I >> haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old system was, >> which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would be curious to >> know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 on your Apple TV. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation >>> focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided to >>> keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on it. It >>> has some note taking capability and works very well with the computer. >>> >>> I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two Apple >>> TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the 14 cell >>> display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when using it with >>> the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like being able to >>> connect it to several devices at once. >>> >>> My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still not >>> working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing it as I >>> already have the Braille Sense. >>> >>> One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you >>> sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in the >>> word "type" they came that as the letter quite. I have found this to be the >>> case on other displays as well. >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone >>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length? Have you used other displays, those from humanware or capability. My do you think of the input keys on this compared with other displays you might have used? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott wrote: > > Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for example > go into your google Account and make sure that notes is turned on. > > Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure that > you are in the Gmail folder when you write the note. > > Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your note > should link up the next time you turn the device on. > > The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that the > notes are turned on within your account. > > I hope this helps. > > Barryy > > Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone > >> On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the >> compactness, but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to having >> so few cells. Especially with word wrap I guess, where sometimes, >> several cells are blank because the next whole word won’t fit on the >> line. I also don’t quite understand how the notes feature works. I have >> entered both my Google and Comcast accounts into the brailliant device. >> But I’m not sure what happens next. I have read the manual. My other >> comment is that I preferred the keyboard on the older humanware braille >> displays. The typing keys on this one
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I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order placement. They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. All the best, Sadam Ahmed On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old system was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would be curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 on your Apple TV. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott wrote: Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided to keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on it. It has some note taking capability and works very well with the computer. I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two Apple TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the 14 cell display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when using it with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like being able to connect it to several devices at once. My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still not working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing it as I already have the Braille Sense. One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in the word "type" they came that as the letter quite. I have found this to be the case on other displays as well. Barry Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length? Have you used other displays, those from humanware or capability. My do you think of the input keys on this compared with other displays you might have used? Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott wrote: Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for example go into your google Account and make sure that notes is turned on. Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure that you are in the Gmail folder when you write the note. Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your note should link up the next time you turn the device on. The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that the notes are turned on within your account. I hope this helps. Barryy Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi all, I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the compactness, but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to having so few cells. Especially with word wrap I guess, where sometimes, several cells are blank because the next whole word won’t fit on the line. I also don’t quite understand how the notes feature works. I have entered both my Google and Comcast accounts into the brailliant device. But I’m not sure what happens next. I have read the manual. My other comment is that I preferred the keyboard on the older humanware braille displays. The typing keys on this one are to my way of thinking, mushy. I’m thinking I probably won’t buy it, but I do want to give it a fair chance. I like the price, and I like the idea of having notetaking ability which I could, or not, sync up with my phone. But I’m just not getting the mechanics of it I guess. Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group
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I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old system was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would be curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 on your Apple TV. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott wrote: > > Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation focus > 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided to keep the > Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on it. It has some > note taking capability and works very well with the computer. > > I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two Apple > TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the 14 cell > display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when using it with > the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like being able to > connect it to several devices at once. > > My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still not > working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing it as I > already have the Braille Sense. > > One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you sometimes > get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in the word "type" > they came that as the letter quite. I have found this to be the case on other > displays as well. > > Barry > > > > Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone > >> On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length? Have >> you used other displays, those from humanware or capability. My do you think >> of the input keys on this compared with other displays you might have used? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott wrote: >>> >>> Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for example go >>> into your google Account and make sure that notes is turned on. >>> >>> Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure that you >>> are in the Gmail folder when you write the note. >>> >>> Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your note >>> should link up the next time you turn the device on. >>> >>> The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that the notes >>> are turned on within your account. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Barryy >>> >>> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone >>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi all, I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the compactness, but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to having so few cells. Especially with word wrap I guess, where sometimes, several cells are blank because the next whole word won’t fit on the line. I also don’t quite understand how the notes feature works. I have entered both my Google and Comcast accounts into the brailliant device. But I’m not sure what happens next. I have read the manual. My other comment is that I preferred the keyboard on the older humanware braille displays. The typing keys on this one are to my way of thinking, mushy. I’m thinking I probably won’t buy it, but I do want to give it a fair chance. I like the price, and I like the idea of having notetaking ability which I could, or not, sync up with my phone. But I’m just not getting the mechanics of it I guess. Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following
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Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided to keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on it. It has some note taking capability and works very well with the computer. I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two Apple TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the 14 cell display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when using it with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like being able to connect it to several devices at once. My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still not working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing it as I already have the Braille Sense. One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in the word "type" they came that as the letter quite. I have found this to be the case on other displays as well. Barry Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone > On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length? Have you > used other displays, those from humanware or capability. My do you think of > the input keys on this compared with other displays you might have used? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott wrote: >> >> Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for example go >> into your google Account and make sure that notes is turned on. >> >> Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure that you >> are in the Gmail folder when you write the note. >> >> Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your note >> should link up the next time you turn the device on. >> >> The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that the notes >> are turned on within your account. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Barryy >> >> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone >> >>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the compactness, >>> but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to having so few cells. >>> Especially with word wrap I guess, where sometimes, several cells are blank >>> because the next whole word won’t fit on the line. I also don’t quite >>> understand how the notes feature works. I have entered both my Google and >>> Comcast accounts into the brailliant device. But I’m not sure what happens >>> next. I have read the manual. My other comment is that I preferred the >>> keyboard on the older humanware braille displays. The typing keys on this >>> one are to my way of thinking, mushy. I’m thinking I probably won’t buy it, >>> but I do want to give it a fair chance. I like the price, and I like the >>> idea of having notetaking ability which I could, or not, sync up with my >>> phone. But I’m just not getting the mechanics of it I guess. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop
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Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length? Have you used other displays, those from humanware or elsewhere? What do you think of the input keys on this compared with other displays you might have used? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott wrote: > > Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for example go > into your google Account and make sure that notes is turned on. > > Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure that you > are in the Gmail folder when you write the note. > > Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your note > should link up the next time you turn the device on. > > The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that the notes > are turned on within your account. > > I hope this helps. > > Barryy > > Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone > >> On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the compactness, >> but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to having so few cells. >> Especially with word wrap I guess, where sometimes, several cells are blank >> because the next whole word won’t fit on the line. I also don’t quite >> understand how the notes feature works. I have entered both my Google and >> Comcast accounts into the brailliant device. But I’m not sure what happens >> next. I have read the manual. My other comment is that I preferred the >> keyboard on the older humanware braille displays. The typing keys on this >> one are to my way of thinking, mushy. I’m thinking I probably won’t buy it, >> but I do want to give it a fair chance. I like the price, and I like the >> idea of having notetaking ability which I could, or not, sync up with my >> phone. But I’m just not getting the mechanics of it I guess. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Bi14 experiences?
Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for example go into your google Account and make sure that notes is turned on. Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure that you are in the Gmail folder when you write the note. Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your note should link up the next time you turn the device on. The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that the notes are turned on within your account. I hope this helps. Barryy Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone > On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi all, > I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the compactness, > but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to having so few cells. > Especially with word wrap I guess, where sometimes, several cells are blank > because the next whole word won’t fit on the line. I also don’t quite > understand how the notes feature works. I have entered both my Google and > Comcast accounts into the brailliant device. But I’m not sure what happens > next. I have read the manual. My other comment is that I preferred the > keyboard on the older humanware braille displays. The typing keys on this one > are to my way of thinking, mushy. I’m thinking I probably won’t buy it, but I > do want to give it a fair chance. I like the price, and I like the idea of > having notetaking ability which I could, or not, sync up with my phone. But > I’m just not getting the mechanics of it I guess. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Bi14 experiences?
Hi all, I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the compactness, but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to having so few cells. Especially with word wrap I guess, where sometimes, several cells are blank because the next whole word won’t fit on the line. I also don’t quite understand how the notes feature works. I have entered both my Google and Comcast accounts into the brailliant device. But I’m not sure what happens next. I have read the manual. My other comment is that I preferred the keyboard on the older humanware braille displays. The typing keys on this one are to my way of thinking, mushy. I’m thinking I probably won’t buy it, but I do want to give it a fair chance. I like the price, and I like the idea of having notetaking ability which I could, or not, sync up with my phone. But I’m just not getting the mechanics of it I guess. Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
