RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Carolyn Arnold]

My call was not Face Time either. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

I can only repeat that everybody really should email Apple Accessibility and 
complain about this as not acceptable. Such a bug wouldn't survive 2 days if it 
effected sighted users.
Could you imagine if after almost every phone call the screen would go black 
and people had to try and reboot their phone without visual feedback in order 
to get back anything visual?

I also posted yesterday that every time I have an audio stream playing, in my 
case usually an Audible book, this doesn't seem to happen. I would really like 
others to try this:
1. Start an audio book, a Podcast or music playing 2. Make some calls, don't 
stop the music or book, just ask SIRI to make the call o r go into the phone 
app and call from your Recents, Favourites or Contacts.
3. Hang up the call when you are done and see if whatever you had playing when 
you started the call resumes playing. Then stop playback and check if Voiceover 
works.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

I have 13.1.2, and after a marathon conversation with a shut-in friend, I lost 
VoiceOver, had a time of it before getting it back. 

I've been busy this morning, but hope to have tine to call Apple Accessibiity 
about it and to get help with one other thing I want to do with my phone. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

That's nice it worked for you. However, I have an iPhone XR and have my wired 
earbuds connected, and have lost speech on phone calls. It doesn't happen all 
of the time, but it does happen. I have even notice it happening when hanging 
up from an Aira call. It happened yesterday to me when I was in an iPhone class 
of all things, but I got speech back fairly quickly and was able to go on with 
the class. This has happened in 13.1 and 13.1.1. I updated to 13.1.2 last night 
so am hoping for different results but wouldn't be surprised to see it happen 
again.

Wayne

On 10/2/19, dani pagador  wrote:
> Hey, Guys.
> Just wanted to update the list. It seems the VO loss after a FaceTime 
> or phone call only happens when an earpiece isn't connected, either 
> wired or via Bluetooth. I tried calling my husband twice, once with 
> the wired earpods and once with the Bluetooth headset I use when I'm 
> on the road, and both times managed to keep VO after hitting "End 
> Call". Guess I'll have to get in to the habit of having headphones on 
> me for the foreseeable future.
>
> More Later,
> Dani
>
> On 10/1/19, sai teja itss  wrote:
>> Hi Group,
>> I Purchased an iphoneX 2 years back but still can't use with indian 
>> sim, in usa i use sprint network but they not yet unlocky my phone so 
>> kindly need your help
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:05 PM dani pagador  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using a 6S. Happens with both phone and FaceTime calls, and I'm 
>>> not connected to any earpiece. Apple Accessibility e-mailed me back 
>>> and sent the usual song-and-dance line about we're looking in to it 
>>> and we don't know when it will be fixed.
>>>
>>> So Upset,
>>> Dani
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/1/19, Holly  wrote:
>>> > Here is another possible work around.
>>> >
>>> > If you have voice control on at that point you would just say 
>>> > reboot and swipe right twice and double tap then your phone would 
>>> > just restart and good to go.
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> > iPhone list.
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>>> > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach 
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RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Carolyn Arnold]

It happened to me last night, when I was using Bluetooth connected to my 
hearing aids. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

It actually seems to happen more for me with my iPhone 8 when I am using the 
wired earpods.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

That's nice it worked for you. However, I have an iPhone XR and have my wired 
earbuds connected, and have lost speech on phone calls. It doesn't happen all 
of the time, but it does happen. I have even notice it happening when hanging 
up from an Aira call. It happened yesterday to me when I was in an iPhone class 
of all things, but I got speech back fairly quickly and was able to go on with 
the class. This has happened in 13.1 and 13.1.1. I updated to 13.1.2 last night 
so am hoping for different results but wouldn't be surprised to see it happen 
again.

Wayne

On 10/2/19, dani pagador  wrote:
> Hey, Guys.
> Just wanted to update the list. It seems the VO loss after a FaceTime 
> or phone call only happens when an earpiece isn't connected, either 
> wired or via Bluetooth. I tried calling my husband twice, once with 
> the wired earpods and once with the Bluetooth headset I use when I'm 
> on the road, and both times managed to keep VO after hitting "End 
> Call". Guess I'll have to get in to the habit of having headphones on 
> me for the foreseeable future.
>
> More Later,
> Dani
>
> On 10/1/19, sai teja itss  wrote:
>> Hi Group,
>> I Purchased an iphoneX 2 years back but still can't use with indian 
>> sim, in usa i use sprint network but they not yet unlocky my phone so 
>> kindly need your help
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:05 PM dani pagador  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using a 6S. Happens with both phone and FaceTime calls, and I'm 
>>> not connected to any earpiece. Apple Accessibility e-mailed me back 
>>> and sent the usual song-and-dance line about we're looking in to it 
>>> and we don't know when it will be fixed.
>>>
>>> So Upset,
>>> Dani
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/1/19, Holly  wrote:
>>> > Here is another possible work around.
>>> >
>>> > If you have voice control on at that point you would just say 
>>> > reboot and swipe right twice and double tap then your phone would 
>>> > just restart and good to go.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>> > iPhone list.
>>> >
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>>> > list, or
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>>> > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach 
>>> > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I can only repeat that everybody really should email Apple Accessibility and 
complain about this as not acceptable. Such a bug wouldn't survive 2 days if it 
effected sighted users.
Could you imagine if after almost every phone call the screen would go black 
and people had to try and reboot their phone without visual feedback in order 
to get back anything visual?

I also posted yesterday that every time I have an audio stream playing, in my 
case usually an Audible book, this doesn't seem to happen. I would really like 
others to try this:
1. Start an audio book, a Podcast or music playing
2. Make some calls, don't stop the music or book, just ask SIRI to make the 
call o r go into the phone app and call from your Recents, Favourites or 
Contacts.
3. Hang up the call when you are done and see if whatever you had playing when 
you started the call resumes playing. Then stop playback and check if Voiceover 
works.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

I have 13.1.2, and after a marathon conversation with a shut-in friend, I lost 
VoiceOver, had a time of it before getting it back. 

I've been busy this morning, but hope to have tine to call Apple Accessibiity 
about it and to get help with one other thing I want to do with my phone. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

That's nice it worked for you. However, I have an iPhone XR and have my wired 
earbuds connected, and have lost speech on phone calls. It doesn't happen all 
of the time, but it does happen. I have even notice it happening when hanging 
up from an Aira call. It happened yesterday to me when I was in an iPhone class 
of all things, but I got speech back fairly quickly and was able to go on with 
the class. This has happened in 13.1 and 13.1.1. I updated to 13.1.2 last night 
so am hoping for different results but wouldn't be surprised to see it happen 
again.

Wayne

On 10/2/19, dani pagador  wrote:
> Hey, Guys.
> Just wanted to update the list. It seems the VO loss after a FaceTime 
> or phone call only happens when an earpiece isn't connected, either 
> wired or via Bluetooth. I tried calling my husband twice, once with 
> the wired earpods and once with the Bluetooth headset I use when I'm 
> on the road, and both times managed to keep VO after hitting "End 
> Call". Guess I'll have to get in to the habit of having headphones on 
> me for the foreseeable future.
>
> More Later,
> Dani
>
> On 10/1/19, sai teja itss  wrote:
>> Hi Group,
>> I Purchased an iphoneX 2 years back but still can't use with indian 
>> sim, in usa i use sprint network but they not yet unlocky my phone so 
>> kindly need your help
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:05 PM dani pagador  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using a 6S. Happens with both phone and FaceTime calls, and I'm 
>>> not connected to any earpiece. Apple Accessibility e-mailed me back 
>>> and sent the usual song-and-dance line about we're looking in to it 
>>> and we don't know when it will be fixed.
>>>
>>> So Upset,
>>> Dani
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/1/19, Holly  wrote:
>>> > Here is another possible work around.
>>> >
>>> > If you have voice control on at that point you would just say 
>>> > reboot and swipe right twice and double tap then your phone would 
>>> > just restart and good to go.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>> > iPhone list.
>>> >
>>> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this 
>>> > list, or
>>> if
>>> > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>> owners or
>>> > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> >
>>> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>>> > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach 
>>> > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> >
>>> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
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>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00B820EBEC6E4E0FBDB04BEB92
>>> DE4584%40HollyPC
>>> .
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RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It actually seems to happen more for me with my iPhone 8 when I am using the 
wired earpods.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

That's nice it worked for you. However, I have an iPhone XR and have my wired 
earbuds connected, and have lost speech on phone calls. It doesn't happen all 
of the time, but it does happen. I have even notice it happening when hanging 
up from an Aira call. It happened yesterday to me when I was in an iPhone class 
of all things, but I got speech back fairly quickly and was able to go on with 
the class. This has happened in 13.1 and 13.1.1. I updated to 13.1.2 last night 
so am hoping for different results but wouldn't be surprised to see it happen 
again.

Wayne

On 10/2/19, dani pagador  wrote:
> Hey, Guys.
> Just wanted to update the list. It seems the VO loss after a FaceTime 
> or phone call only happens when an earpiece isn't connected, either 
> wired or via Bluetooth. I tried calling my husband twice, once with 
> the wired earpods and once with the Bluetooth headset I use when I'm 
> on the road, and both times managed to keep VO after hitting "End 
> Call". Guess I'll have to get in to the habit of having headphones on 
> me for the foreseeable future.
>
> More Later,
> Dani
>
> On 10/1/19, sai teja itss  wrote:
>> Hi Group,
>> I Purchased an iphoneX 2 years back but still can't use with indian 
>> sim, in usa i use sprint network but they not yet unlocky my phone so 
>> kindly need your help
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:05 PM dani pagador  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using a 6S. Happens with both phone and FaceTime calls, and I'm 
>>> not connected to any earpiece. Apple Accessibility e-mailed me back 
>>> and sent the usual song-and-dance line about we're looking in to it 
>>> and we don't know when it will be fixed.
>>>
>>> So Upset,
>>> Dani
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/1/19, Holly  wrote:
>>> > Here is another possible work around.
>>> >
>>> > If you have voice control on at that point you would just say 
>>> > reboot and swipe right twice and double tap then your phone would 
>>> > just restart and good to go.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>> > iPhone list.
>>> >
>>> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this 
>>> > list, or
>>> if
>>> > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>> owners or
>>> > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> >
>>> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>>> > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach 
>>> > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> >
>>> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>>> > ---
>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
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>>> >
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00B820EBEC6E4E0FBDB04BEB92
>>> DE4584%40HollyPC
>>> .
>>> >
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 
>>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>
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>>> .
>>>
>>
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>> itself.
>>
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>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> 

RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have 13.1.2, and after a marathon conversation with a shut-in friend, I lost 
VoiceOver, had a time of it before getting it back. 

I've been busy this morning, but hope to have tine to call Apple Accessibiity 
about it and to get help with one other thing I want to do with my phone. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

That's nice it worked for you. However, I have an iPhone XR and have my wired 
earbuds connected, and have lost speech on phone calls. It doesn't happen all 
of the time, but it does happen. I have even notice it happening when hanging 
up from an Aira call. It happened yesterday to me when I was in an iPhone class 
of all things, but I got speech back fairly quickly and was able to go on with 
the class. This has happened in 13.1 and 13.1.1. I updated to 13.1.2 last night 
so am hoping for different results but wouldn't be surprised to see it happen 
again.

Wayne

On 10/2/19, dani pagador  wrote:
> Hey, Guys.
> Just wanted to update the list. It seems the VO loss after a FaceTime 
> or phone call only happens when an earpiece isn't connected, either 
> wired or via Bluetooth. I tried calling my husband twice, once with 
> the wired earpods and once with the Bluetooth headset I use when I'm 
> on the road, and both times managed to keep VO after hitting "End 
> Call". Guess I'll have to get in to the habit of having headphones on 
> me for the foreseeable future.
>
> More Later,
> Dani
>
> On 10/1/19, sai teja itss  wrote:
>> Hi Group,
>> I Purchased an iphoneX 2 years back but still can't use with indian 
>> sim, in usa i use sprint network but they not yet unlocky my phone so 
>> kindly need your help
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:05 PM dani pagador  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using a 6S. Happens with both phone and FaceTime calls, and I'm 
>>> not connected to any earpiece. Apple Accessibility e-mailed me back 
>>> and sent the usual song-and-dance line about we're looking in to it 
>>> and we don't know when it will be fixed.
>>>
>>> So Upset,
>>> Dani
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/1/19, Holly  wrote:
>>> > Here is another possible work around.
>>> >
>>> > If you have voice control on at that point you would just say 
>>> > reboot and swipe right twice and double tap then your phone would 
>>> > just restart and good to go.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>> > iPhone list.
>>> >
>>> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this 
>>> > list, or
>>> if
>>> > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>> owners or
>>> > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> >
>>> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>>> > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach 
>>> > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> >
>>> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
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>>> DE4584%40HollyPC
>>> .
>>> >
>>>
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>>>
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>>> itself.
>>>
>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 
>>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>
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>>> 4GVaauShQ8duoMgjzcJNP0L5A%40mail.gmail.com
>>> .
>>>
>>
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Wayne Merritt]

That's nice it worked for you. However, I have an iPhone XR and have
my wired earbuds connected, and have lost speech on phone calls. It
doesn't happen all of the time, but it does happen. I have even notice
it happening when hanging up from an Aira call. It happened yesterday
to me when I was in an iPhone class of all things, but I got speech
back fairly quickly and was able to go on with the class. This has
happened in 13.1 and 13.1.1. I updated to 13.1.2 last night so am
hoping for different results but wouldn't be surprised to see it
happen again.

Wayne

On 10/2/19, dani pagador  wrote:
> Hey, Guys.
> Just wanted to update the list. It seems the VO loss after a FaceTime
> or phone call only happens when an earpiece isn't connected, either
> wired or via Bluetooth. I tried calling my husband twice, once with
> the wired earpods and once with the Bluetooth headset I use when I'm
> on the road, and both times managed to keep VO after hitting "End
> Call". Guess I'll have to get in to the habit of having headphones on
> me for the foreseeable future.
>
> More Later,
> Dani
>
> On 10/1/19, sai teja itss  wrote:
>> Hi Group,
>> I Purchased an iphoneX 2 years back but still can't use with indian sim,
>> in
>> usa i use sprint network but they not yet unlocky my phone so kindly need
>> your help
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>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:05 PM dani pagador  wrote:
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>>> I'm using a 6S. Happens with both phone and FaceTime calls, and I'm
>>> not connected to any earpiece. Apple Accessibility e-mailed me back
>>> and sent the usual song-and-dance line about we're looking in to it
>>> and we don't know when it will be fixed.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[dani pagador]

Hey, Guys.
Just wanted to update the list. It seems the VO loss after a FaceTime
or phone call only happens when an earpiece isn't connected, either
wired or via Bluetooth. I tried calling my husband twice, once with
the wired earpods and once with the Bluetooth headset I use when I'm
on the road, and both times managed to keep VO after hitting "End
Call". Guess I'll have to get in to the habit of having headphones on
me for the foreseeable future.

More Later,
Dani

On 10/1/19, sai teja itss  wrote:
> Hi Group,
> I Purchased an iphoneX 2 years back but still can't use with indian sim, in
> usa i use sprint network but they not yet unlocky my phone so kindly need
> your help
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:05 PM dani pagador  wrote:
>
>> I'm using a 6S. Happens with both phone and FaceTime calls, and I'm
>> not connected to any earpiece. Apple Accessibility e-mailed me back
>> and sent the usual song-and-dance line about we're looking in to it
>> and we don't know when it will be fixed.
>>
>> So Upset,
>> Dani
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/1/19, Holly  wrote:
>> > Here is another possible work around.
>> >
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[sai teja itss]

Hi Group,
I Purchased an iphoneX 2 years back but still can't use with indian sim, in
usa i use sprint network but they not yet unlocky my phone so kindly need
your help

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:05 PM dani pagador  wrote:

> I'm using a 6S. Happens with both phone and FaceTime calls, and I'm
> not connected to any earpiece. Apple Accessibility e-mailed me back
> and sent the usual song-and-dance line about we're looking in to it
> and we don't know when it will be fixed.
>
> So Upset,
> Dani
>
>
>
> On 10/1/19, Holly  wrote:
> > Here is another possible work around.
> >
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[dani pagador]

I'm using a 6S. Happens with both phone and FaceTime calls, and I'm
not connected to any earpiece. Apple Accessibility e-mailed me back
and sent the usual song-and-dance line about we're looking in to it
and we don't know when it will be fixed.

So Upset,
Dani



On 10/1/19, Holly  wrote:
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>
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> swipe right twice and double tap then your phone would just restart and
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Jed Barton]

Yes, i had this happen to me yesterday, very annoying.

On 10/1/19, Holly  wrote:
> Here is another possible work around.
>
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> swipe right twice and double tap then your phone would just restart and
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Holly]

Here is another possible work around.

If you have voice control on at that point you would just say reboot and
swipe right twice and double tap then your phone would just restart and good
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Esubalew Johnston]

I have the iPhone XS!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Maybe it does on  your phone, for me Voiceover is gone as in completely 
> inaudible and so are all other sounds and vibrations. There is no SIRI tone, 
> there is no sound if I play the Audible book I am currently listening to and 
> if I call my iPhone from another line it shows the incoming call on the 
> screen, but the phone neither rings nor does it vibrate.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time 
> call and you loose all speech
>  
> So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. When 
> I hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in my left 
> ear. I turned voice over on and back off and it came back just fine. So this 
> phone call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the phone goes from phone 
> call back to the duel speakers.
> 
> On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this once 
> for me.
> The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two calls 
> where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call somebody 
> and that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was 
> fine. I have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a 
> work-around for this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is 
> playing before you start the call, maybe others can try it as well.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Liel 
> Ben Simon ?? ?
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time 
> call and you loose all speech
>  
> Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart voiceover 
> to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has returned 
> to normal behavior.
> 
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
> 
> 
> 
> ‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador ‏ כתב/ה:
> 
> OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
> Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
> wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
> of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
> It's unacceptable!!!
> 
> So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
> if you don't have one around, then what?
> 
> I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
> suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
> active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
> vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
> there.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Frustrated,
> Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12
> 
> On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone  wrote:
> 
> 
> It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
> force re boot
>  
> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND  wrote:
>  
> Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever
> someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
> even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
> force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
> September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
> Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
> after hanging up a face time call
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Esubalew Johnston]

Hey y’all, hope everyone is doing well, yes my phone does the same thing to 
whether I get a phone call or make a phone call voiceover dies I had to find 
somebody to shut off the phone after I turn off voiceover and turn it back on 
and I’d order for it to work. Worst bug ever.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Maybe it does on  your phone, for me Voiceover is gone as in completely 
> inaudible and so are all other sounds and vibrations. There is no SIRI tone, 
> there is no sound if I play the Audible book I am currently listening to and 
> if I call my iPhone from another line it shows the incoming call on the 
> screen, but the phone neither rings nor does it vibrate.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time 
> call and you loose all speech
>  
> So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. When 
> I hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in my left 
> ear. I turned voice over on and back off and it came back just fine. So this 
> phone call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the phone goes from phone 
> call back to the duel speakers.
> 
> On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this once 
> for me.
> The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two calls 
> where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call somebody 
> and that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was 
> fine. I have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a 
> work-around for this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is 
> playing before you start the call, maybe others can try it as well.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Liel 
> Ben Simon ?? ?
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time 
> call and you loose all speech
>  
> Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart voiceover 
> to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has returned 
> to normal behavior.
> 
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
> 
> 
> 
> ‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador ‏ כתב/ה:
> 
> OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
> Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
> wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
> of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
> It's unacceptable!!!
> 
> So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
> if you don't have one around, then what?
> 
> I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
> suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
> active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
> vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
> there.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Frustrated,
> Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12
> 
> On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone  wrote:
> 
> 
> It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
> force re boot
>  
> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND  wrote:
>  
> Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever
> someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
> even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
> force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
> September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
> Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
> after hanging up a face time call
>  
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[James English]

Hi,

I have found a workaround for this issue. When this happens to me, I
find it works if you go into app switcher and scroll an inordinate
amounts of times right (just to make sure you are on the last app) and
close it. Voiceover tends to return if I do that.

Hope this helps,
- James

On 10/1/19, regina alvarado  wrote:
> Ignore my last post. Wrong list. Sorry!
>
> Reggie Alvarado
>
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>
> 
> Maybe it does on  your phone, for me Voiceover is gone as in completely
> inaudible and so are all other sounds and vibrations. There is no SIRI tone,
> there is no sound if I play the Audible book I am currently listening to and
> if I call my iPhone from another line it shows the incoming call on the
> screen, but the phone neither rings nor does it vibrate.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Gordon
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time
> call and you loose all speech
>
> So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. When
> I hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in my left
> ear. I turned voice over on and back off and it came back just fine. So this
> phone call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the phone goes from phone
> call back to the duel speakers.
>
> On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this
> once for me.
> The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two calls
> where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call somebody
> and that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was
> fine. I have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a
> work-around for this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is
> playing before you start the call, maybe others can try it as well.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Liel
> Ben Simon ?? ?
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time
> call and you loose all speech
>
> Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart
> voiceover to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has
> returned to normal behavior.
>
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>
>
>
> ‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador ‏ כתב/ה:
>
> OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
> Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
> wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
> of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
> It's unacceptable!!!
>
> So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
> if you don't have one around, then what?
>
> I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
> suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
> active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
> vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
> there.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Frustrated,
> Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12
>
> On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone  wrote:
>
>
> It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
> force re boot
>
> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND  wrote:
>
> Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever
> someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
> even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
> force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
> September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
> Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
> after hanging up a face time call
>
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[regina alvarado]

Ignore my last post. Wrong list. Sorry!

Reggie Alvarado 

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 


Maybe it does on  your phone, for me Voiceover is gone as in completely 
inaudible and so are all other sounds and vibrations. There is no SIRI tone, 
there is no sound if I play the Audible book I am currently listening to and if 
I call my iPhone from another line it shows the incoming call on the screen, 
but the phone neither rings nor does it vibrate.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech
 
So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. When I 
hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in my left ear. I 
turned voice over on and back off and it came back just fine. So this phone 
call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the phone goes from phone call 
back to the duel speakers.

On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this once 
for me.
The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two calls 
where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call somebody and 
that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was fine. I 
have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a work-around for 
this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is playing before you 
start the call, maybe others can try it as well.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Liel Ben 
Simon ?? ?
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech
 
Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart voiceover 
to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has returned to 
normal behavior.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי



‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador ‏ כתב/ה:

OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
It's unacceptable!!!

So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
if you don't have one around, then what?

I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
there.

Ideas?

Frustrated,
Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12

On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone  wrote:


It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
force re boot
 
On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND  wrote:
 
Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever
someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
after hanging up a face time call
 
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[regina alvarado]

Hi, i am using an XR with 13.1.2. I was very surprised when problems with MFI 
began showing up. Wonder if it is just the older phones? I have had no problem 
here. Everyding seems to be working. 

Carolyn Hawes, I spoke with a friend of yours last night, Donna Corson. She 
said you were extremely knowledgable on all things hearing and hearing aids. 
She told me I want to use a program outside that is closest to analog aids so I 
can hear all around me. Any thoughts on this? On the Oticons I have an all 
around program. Is this the same thing? Is that the program to tweak for 
outside? Thanks for thoughts.

Reggie Alvarado 

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 12:17 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 

It's almost enough to make me want to throw this thing. It's easy to
get up and running again, I just feel like I shouldn't have to do this
at least 5 times a day.

> On 10/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Maybe it does on  your phone, for me Voiceover is gone as in completely
> inaudible and so are all other sounds and vibrations. There is no SIRI tone,
> there is no sound if I play the Audible book I am currently listening to and
> if I call my iPhone from another line it shows the incoming call on the
> screen, but the phone neither rings nor does it vibrate.
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Gordon
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time
> call and you loose all speech
> 
> 
> So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. When
> I hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in my left
> ear. I turned voice over on and back off and it came back just fine. So this
> phone call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the phone goes from phone
> call back to the duel speakers.
> On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this
> once for me.
> The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two calls
> where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call somebody
> and that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was
> fine. I have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a
> work-around for this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is
> playing before you start the call, maybe others can try it as well.
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  On Behalf Of
> Liel Ben Simon ?? ?
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time
> call and you loose all speech
> 
> Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart
> voiceover to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has
> returned to normal behavior.
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
> 
> 
> 
> ‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador
> ‏mailto:missni...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
> OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
> Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
> wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
> of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
> It's unacceptable!!!
> 
> So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
> if you don't have one around, then what?
> 
> I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
> suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
> active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
> vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
> there.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Frustrated,
> Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12
> 
> On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
> force re boot
> 
> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever
> someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
> even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
> force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
> September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
> Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
> after hanging up a face time call
> 
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> list.
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

['Marshall Scott' via VIPhone]

Thanks, I won't upgrade until this is fixed!
Marshall
 

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:
> 
> Like I said earlier, it happened to me during a regular phone call. When I 
> hung up, I lost all sounds, which is really annoying. The phone has to be 
> rebooted.
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Marshall Scott' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 12:41 PM
> To: 'jan howells' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time 
> call and you loose all speech
> 
> Just for my information, does this bug occur with regular phone calls, 
> Facetime calls or both regular and Facetime calls?
> Thanks,
> Marshall
> 
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:17 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> It's almost enough to make me want to throw this thing. It's easy to
>> get up and running again, I just feel like I shouldn't have to do this
>> at least 5 times a day.
>> 
>> On 10/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Maybe it does on  your phone, for me Voiceover is gone as in completely
>>> inaudible and so are all other sounds and vibrations. There is no SIRI tone,
>>> there is no sound if I play the Audible book I am currently listening to and
>>> if I call my iPhone from another line it shows the incoming call on the
>>> screen, but the phone neither rings nor does it vibrate.
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Gordon
>>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time
>>> call and you loose all speech
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. When
>>> I hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in my left
>>> ear. I turned voice over on and back off and it came back just fine. So this
>>> phone call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the phone goes from phone
>>> call back to the duel speakers.
>>> On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this
>>> once for me.
>>> The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two calls
>>> where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call somebody
>>> and that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was
>>> fine. I have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a
>>> work-around for this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is
>>> playing before you start the call, maybe others can try it as well.
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>  On Behalf Of
>>> Liel Ben Simon ?? ?
>>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time
>>> call and you loose all speech
>>> 
>>> Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart
>>> voiceover to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has
>>> returned to normal behavior.
>>> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador
>>> ‏mailto:missni...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
>>> OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
>>> Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
>>> wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
>>> of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
>>> It's unacceptable!!!
>>> 
>>> So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
>>> if you don't have one around, then what?
>>> 
>>> I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
>>> suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
>>> active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
>>> vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> Ideas?
>>> 
>>> Frustrated,
>>> Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12
>>> 
>>> On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
>>> force re boot
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever
>>> someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
>>> even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
>>> force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
>>> September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
>>> Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
>>> after hanging up a face time call
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>>> list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any 

Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Mama Peach]

Like I said earlier, it happened to me during a regular phone call. When I 
hung up, I lost all sounds, which is really annoying. The phone has to be 
rebooted.


-Original Message- 
From: 'Marshall Scott' via VIPhone

Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 12:41 PM
To: 'jan howells' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time 
call and you loose all speech


Just for my information, does this bug occur with regular phone calls, 
Facetime calls or both regular and Facetime calls?

Thanks,
Marshall



On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:17 AM, lenron brown  wrote:

It's almost enough to make me want to throw this thing. It's easy to
get up and running again, I just feel like I shouldn't have to do this
at least 5 times a day.

On 10/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Maybe it does on  your phone, for me Voiceover is gone as in completely
inaudible and so are all other sounds and vibrations. There is no SIRI 
tone,
there is no sound if I play the Audible book I am currently listening to 
and

if I call my iPhone from another line it shows the incoming call on the
screen, but the phone neither rings nor does it vibrate.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face 
time

call and you loose all speech


So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. 
When

I hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in my left
ear. I turned voice over on and back off and it came back just fine. So 
this
phone call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the phone goes from 
phone

call back to the duel speakers.
On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this
once for me.
The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two 
calls
where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call 
somebody

and that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was
fine. I have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a
work-around for this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is
playing before you start the call, maybe others can try it as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of
Liel Ben Simon ?? ?
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face 
time

call and you loose all speech

Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart
voiceover to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech 
has

returned to normal behavior.
נשלח מה-iPhone שלי



‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador
‏mailto:missni...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
It's unacceptable!!!

So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
if you don't have one around, then what?

I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
there.

Ideas?

Frustrated,
Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12

On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone
 wrote:


It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
force re boot

On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND
 wrote:

Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens 
whenever

someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do 
a

force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
after hanging up a face time call

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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

['Marshall Scott' via VIPhone]

Just for my information, does this bug occur with regular phone calls, Facetime 
calls or both regular and Facetime calls?
Thanks,
Marshall


> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:17 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> It's almost enough to make me want to throw this thing. It's easy to
> get up and running again, I just feel like I shouldn't have to do this
> at least 5 times a day.
> 
> On 10/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Maybe it does on  your phone, for me Voiceover is gone as in completely
>> inaudible and so are all other sounds and vibrations. There is no SIRI tone,
>> there is no sound if I play the Audible book I am currently listening to and
>> if I call my iPhone from another line it shows the incoming call on the
>> screen, but the phone neither rings nor does it vibrate.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Gordon
>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time
>> call and you loose all speech
>> 
>> 
>> So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. When
>> I hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in my left
>> ear. I turned voice over on and back off and it came back just fine. So this
>> phone call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the phone goes from phone
>> call back to the duel speakers.
>> On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this
>> once for me.
>> The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two calls
>> where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call somebody
>> and that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was
>> fine. I have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a
>> work-around for this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is
>> playing before you start the call, maybe others can try it as well.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  On Behalf Of
>> Liel Ben Simon ?? ?
>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time
>> call and you loose all speech
>> 
>> Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart
>> voiceover to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has
>> returned to normal behavior.
>> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador
>> ‏mailto:missni...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
>> OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
>> Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
>> wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
>> of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
>> It's unacceptable!!!
>> 
>> So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
>> if you don't have one around, then what?
>> 
>> I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
>> suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
>> active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
>> vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
>> there.
>> 
>> Ideas?
>> 
>> Frustrated,
>> Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12
>> 
>> On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
>> force re boot
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever
>> someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
>> even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
>> force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
>> September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
>> Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
>> after hanging up a face time call
>> 
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[lenron brown]

It's almost enough to make me want to throw this thing. It's easy to
get up and running again, I just feel like I shouldn't have to do this
at least 5 times a day.

On 10/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Maybe it does on  your phone, for me Voiceover is gone as in completely
> inaudible and so are all other sounds and vibrations. There is no SIRI tone,
> there is no sound if I play the Audible book I am currently listening to and
> if I call my iPhone from another line it shows the incoming call on the
> screen, but the phone neither rings nor does it vibrate.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Gordon
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time
> call and you loose all speech
>
>
> So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. When
> I hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in my left
> ear. I turned voice over on and back off and it came back just fine. So this
> phone call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the phone goes from phone
> call back to the duel speakers.
> On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this
> once for me.
> The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two calls
> where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call somebody
> and that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was
> fine. I have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a
> work-around for this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is
> playing before you start the call, maybe others can try it as well.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  On Behalf Of
> Liel Ben Simon ?? ?
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time
> call and you loose all speech
>
> Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart
> voiceover to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has
> returned to normal behavior.
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>
>
>
> ‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador
> ‏mailto:missni...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
> OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
> Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
> wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
> of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
> It's unacceptable!!!
>
> So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
> if you don't have one around, then what?
>
> I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
> suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
> active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
> vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
> there.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Frustrated,
> Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12
>
> On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone
>  wrote:
>
>
> It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
> force re boot
>
> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND
>  wrote:
>
> Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever
> someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
> even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
> force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
> September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
> Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
> after hanging up a face time call
>
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RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe it does on  your phone, for me Voiceover is gone as in completely 
inaudible and so are all other sounds and vibrations. There is no SIRI tone, 
there is no sound if I play the Audible book I am currently listening to and if 
I call my iPhone from another line it shows the incoming call on the screen, 
but the phone neither rings nor does it vibrate.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech


So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. When I 
hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in my left ear. I 
turned voice over on and back off and it came back just fine. So this phone 
call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the phone goes from phone call 
back to the duel speakers.
On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this once 
for me.
The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two calls 
where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call somebody and 
that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was fine. I 
have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a work-around for 
this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is playing before you 
start the call, maybe others can try it as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Liel 
Ben Simon ?? ?
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart voiceover 
to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has returned to 
normal behavior.
נשלח מה-iPhone שלי



‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador 
‏mailto:missni...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
It's unacceptable!!!

So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
if you don't have one around, then what?

I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
there.

Ideas?

Frustrated,
Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12

On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
force re boot

On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND 
 wrote:

Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever
someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
after hanging up a face time call

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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Gordon]

So a few minutes ago I was on the phone with someone using my ear pods. 
When I hung up the call, voice over was there, but it was very soft in 
my left ear. I turned voice over on and back off and it came back just 
fine. So this phone call bug sounds like a channeling issue when the 
phone goes from phone call back to the duel speakers.


On 9/30/2019 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed 
this once for me.


The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two 
calls where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to 
call somebody and that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing 
and Voiceover was fine. I have to do this a few more times to see if 
this is actually a work-around for this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen 
if a book or music is playing before you start the call, maybe others 
can try it as well.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Liel Ben Simon ?? ?

*Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a 
face time call and you loose all speech


Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart 
voiceover to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover 
speech has returned to normal behavior.


נשלח מה-iPhoneשלי



‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador‏
כתב/ה:

OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
It's unacceptable!!!

So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
if you don't have one around, then what?

I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
there.

Ideas?

Frustrated,
Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12

On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone
 wrote:

It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having
to doo a

force re boot

On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND
 wrote:

Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.
  happens whenever

someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone
call. I don’t

even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes
silent must do a

force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix
On Saturday,

September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:

Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you
loose all speech

after hanging up a face time call

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RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Than you are lucky, toggling Voiceover off and back on hasn’t fixed this once 
for me.
The quickest and easiest way is to do a hard reset although I did two calls 
where I had an Audible book playing and I just asked SIRI to call somebody and 
that time after I hung  up my book resumed playing and Voiceover was fine. I 
have to do this a few more times to see if this is actually a work-around for 
this, i.e. that this doesn’t happen if a book or music is playing before you 
start the call, maybe others can try it as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Liel Ben 
Simon ?? ?
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart voiceover 
to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has returned to 
normal behavior.
נשלח מה-iPhone שלי


‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador ‏ כתב/ה:
OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
It's unacceptable!!!

So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
if you don't have one around, then what?

I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
there.

Ideas?

Frustrated,
Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12

On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone  wrote:

It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
force re boot

On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND  wrote:

Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever
someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
after hanging up a face time call

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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Hi, I'm getting a lost speech  voiceover. What's  help  me, restart voiceover 
to Presse on the power button,3 times  and my voiceover speech has returned to 
normal behavior.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-1 באוק׳ 2019, בשעה 5:47, ‏‏dani pagador ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
> Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
> wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
> of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
> It's unacceptable!!!
> 
> So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
> if you don't have one around, then what?
> 
> I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
> suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
> active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
> vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
> there.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Frustrated,
> Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12
> 
>> On 9/30/19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a
>> force re boot
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>>> even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
>>> force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
>>> September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
 Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[dani pagador]

OK, I get the lose speech thing after I do anything phone-call or
Face-Time related. I just sent off a very angry e-mail telling Apple I
wouldn't promote purchase of the iPhone to any of my friends or in any
of the blindness organizations I belong to till they fix this bug.
It's unacceptable!!!

So … how do you get speech back? I know I could ask a sightling, but
if you don't have one around, then what?

I've tried the power button and the volume up/down and power buttin as
suggested in another message, and nothing works. I know my phone is
active because I can call myself on my parents' landline and the phone
vibrates. But I can't answer the call on the iPhone, so am out of luck
there.

Ideas?

 Frustrated,
Dani, sad she can't go back to IOS12

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>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND  wrote:
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>> someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t
>> even have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a
>> force restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday,
>> September 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

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It is very very enjoying and plus it is a waste of time having to doo a force 
re boot

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:28 PM, LockwoodND  wrote:
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> someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t even 
> have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a force 
> restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday, September 
> 28, 2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[LockwoodND]

Yes I am currently experiencing this problem right now.   happens whenever 
someone hangs up a regular phone call or I hang up a phone call. I don’t even 
have to use FaceTime.   afterwords entire phone goes silent must do a force 
restart. It is out rages   updated to 13.1.2 no fix On Saturday, September 28, 
2019 at 5:11:21 PM UTC-4, wui chin Leong wrote:
> Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech  after 
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RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This has been going on for a long time during the Beta and for me it's worse in 
iOS 13.1.1. I can usually get Voiceover back by calling my phone from another 
phone and picking up the call, then turning Voiceover off and back on helps 
either before or after you call your phone, but just turning Voiceover off and 
back on usually does nothing for me and it's of course difficult to know if you 
actually turned it off since you have no feedback whatsoever. It is not only 
Voiceover which goes away, it's all system sounds as well, if I call my phone 
when this is happening it neither rings nor vibrates, but my sighted wife 
confirmed that call is coming in and it can be answered. Also saying "Hey SIRI" 
does not play the usual sound that SIRI is listening.
Apple Accessibility needs to be bombarded by messages about this one, I would 
consider it currently the worst issue with iOS 13.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Hi,

I began having this issue with iOS 13.1. However, with iOS 13.1.1, this issue 
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

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Hi,

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I have a friend who has had this issue 

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>> restore speech without turning off the phone.
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

No have i. I hope they will fix it in the next update

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> Yes I have. It happened to me many times. In each time I was not able to 
> restore speech without turning off the phone.
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Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

[Cris Ali]

Yes I have. It happened to me many times. In each time I was not able to 
restore speech without turning off the phone.


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Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you loose all speech

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

Has any one experienced the voice over bug where you loose all speech  after 
hanging up a face time call

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