Re: echo and echo dot

2022-05-22 Thread chaim biberfeld 
My sister is a quadriplegic and could not use the echo because the microphone 
is not sensitive enough for her diction. We have switched back to Google which 
is much more dependable on understanding faint or unclear commands

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

thegototherapist.com 

> On May 21, 2022, at 4:27 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:
> 
> They even sound better when you have 2 of them and they are paired. I think 
> I got the same deal that you did for $60 each!
> 
> Debbie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 4:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: echo and echo dot
> 
> I have a fourth generation Echo that I bought on sale for $60 that was 
> originally $100.  It has very nice sound.  I often use it with my iPhone to 
> listen to music from my phone and to stream audio dramas from my phone.  I 
> have also streamed bard books from bard mobile through my echo via my phone 
> and they also sound very good.  The echo fourth generation can get quite loud 
> as well.
> 
>> On 5/21/22, deidreandlou...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> The object identification for the Echo Show is very slow and that's 
>> probably because you need to know where you are standing for the 
>> camera to get the best view. I didn't find it useful. My original Echo 
>> which is round with no screen works great. The ones with screens miss 
>> a lot but I can't say if that is more due to my internet or that they 
>> are far from fool proof. For the most part, I love having them and use 
>> mine each day. If you don't need a screen for any reason, don't bother 
>> buying the more expensive ones. Read the specs for each device so you 
>> know what you are paying for. I bought an Echo
>> 5 inch screenn one for something like $33 a year or so ago for a 
>> friend, and she loves it. I can ask her to check in on my dog while I 
>> am away if I have any concerns. Amazon had all kinds of promotional 
>> stuff when I bought my Echo 5 with a little screen and my Echo 10 and 
>> between a sale price and a promotional extra many dollars off, I got a great 
>> deal on all of them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>       Deidre
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> kheve...@fuse.net
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo dot.  
>> I think the third generation has much better sound quality.  It also 
>> has tactil markers for all controls.  I also tried the echo show 2.  
>> It has a camera and even better sound quality that the echo dot.  A 
>> friend who has significant hearing loss got it.  It claims to identify 
>> product labels, etc.
>> I found it much more difficult to set up than the echo dot.  For 
>> whatever reason, I had trouble getting it to tell me what various 
>> things were.  Maybe I did not give it enough time.  I returned mine 
>> for a total refund.  Am pretty sure you would be able to return the echo dot 
>> for full refund too.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA
>> 
>> 73 Kitty
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll 
>> probably have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and 
>> you’ll need an amazon account to link it to. Once set up, it should be 
>> fairly straight forward to use. If it doesn’t work out, You can 
>> probably return it to amazon.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of Dan
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
>> To: 'cwc' via VIPhone > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>> Subject: echo and echo dot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other 
>> devices but didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one 
>> for myself

Re: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
I know music would sound very good this way. However, since I mostly
use my echo paired to my phone via bluetooth, I probably wouldn't have
2 of them in stereo.

On 5/21/22, Debbie Downey  wrote:
> Joshua,
>
> When you pair the 2 devices that is what creates the stereo. You do have to
> have both speakers in the same room! I go into the Alexa app on my phone to
> do this. It doesn't require blue tooth.
>
>
> Debbie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: echo and echo dot
>
> I've heard, that you can't put 2 echo fourth generations in stereo mode then
> pair with bluetooth.  If I had my own house, I'd have echo fourth gens in
> every room of my house.  It would be great to go into the livingroom in the
> recliner and have the fourth gen echo on the table beside me.
>
> On 5/21/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> I have the third generation echo dot. It’s the last one that looks
>> like a hockey puck the fourth generation looks more spherical. I’ve
>> also heard that echo shows are really good to use as well I don’t have
>> one but if I did it would probably be the echo show eight.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On May 21, 2022, at 1:58 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> What is difference between the echo dot third and fourth generations?
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of deidreandlou...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:57 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>>>
>>> The object identification for the Echo Show is very slow and that's
>>> probably because you need to know where you are standing for the
>>> camera to get the best view. I didn't find it useful. My original
>>> Echo which is round with no screen works great. The ones with screens
>>> miss a lot but I can't say if that is more due to my internet or that
>>> they are far from fool proof. For the most part, I love having them and
>>> use mine each day.
>>> If you don't need a screen for any reason, don't bother buying the
>>> more expensive ones. Read the specs for each device so you know what
>>> you are paying for. I bought an Echo 5 inch screenn one for something
>>> like $33 a year or so ago for a friend,  and she loves it. I can ask
>>> her to check in on my dog while I am away if I have any concerns.
>>> Amazon had all kinds of promotional stuff when I bought my Echo 5
>>> with a little screen and my Echo
>>> 10 and between a sale price and a promotional extra many dollars off,
>>> I got a great deal on all of them.
>>>
>>>Deidre
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of kheve...@fuse.net
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>>>
>>> Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo
>>> dot.  I think the third generation has much better sound quality.  It
>>> also has tactil markers for all controls.  I also tried the echo show
>>> 2.  It has a camera and even better sound quality that the echo dot.
>>> A friend who has significant hearing loss got it.  It claims to
>>> identify product labels, etc.  I found it much more difficult to set
>>> up than the echo dot.  For whatever reason, I had trouble getting it
>>> to tell me what various things were.  Maybe I did not give it enough
>>> time.  I returned mine for a total refund.  Am pretty sure you would
>>> be able to return the echo dot for full refund too.
>>>
>>> On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA
>>> 73 Kitty
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of llump...@austin.rr.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>>>
>>> The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll
>>> probably have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and
>>> you’ll need an amazon account to link it to. Once set up, it should
>>> be fairly straight forward to use. If it doesn’t work out, You can
>>> probably return it to amazon.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Dan
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
>>> To: 'cwc' via VIPhon

RE: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread Debbie Downey 
Joshua,

When you pair the 2 devices that is what creates the stereo. You do have to 
have both speakers in the same room! I go into the Alexa app on my phone to do 
this. It doesn't require blue tooth.
 

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: echo and echo dot

I've heard, that you can't put 2 echo fourth generations in stereo mode then 
pair with bluetooth.  If I had my own house, I'd have echo fourth gens in every 
room of my house.  It would be great to go into the livingroom in the recliner 
and have the fourth gen echo on the table beside me.

On 5/21/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> I have the third generation echo dot. It’s the last one that looks 
> like a hockey puck the fourth generation looks more spherical. I’ve 
> also heard that echo shows are really good to use as well I don’t have 
> one but if I did it would probably be the echo show eight.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 21, 2022, at 1:58 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
>>
>> 
>> What is difference between the echo dot third and fourth generations?
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of deidreandlou...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>>
>> The object identification for the Echo Show is very slow and that's 
>> probably because you need to know where you are standing for the 
>> camera to get the best view. I didn't find it useful. My original 
>> Echo which is round with no screen works great. The ones with screens 
>> miss a lot but I can't say if that is more due to my internet or that 
>> they are far from fool proof. For the most part, I love having them and use 
>> mine each day.
>> If you don't need a screen for any reason, don't bother buying the 
>> more expensive ones. Read the specs for each device so you know what 
>> you are paying for. I bought an Echo 5 inch screenn one for something 
>> like $33 a year or so ago for a friend,  and she loves it. I can ask 
>> her to check in on my dog while I am away if I have any concerns. 
>> Amazon had all kinds of promotional stuff when I bought my Echo 5 
>> with a little screen and my Echo
>> 10 and between a sale price and a promotional extra many dollars off, 
>> I got a great deal on all of them.
>>
>>        Deidre
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of kheve...@fuse.net
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>>
>> Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo 
>> dot.  I think the third generation has much better sound quality.  It 
>> also has tactil markers for all controls.  I also tried the echo show 
>> 2.  It has a camera and even better sound quality that the echo dot.  
>> A friend who has significant hearing loss got it.  It claims to 
>> identify product labels, etc.  I found it much more difficult to set 
>> up than the echo dot.  For whatever reason, I had trouble getting it 
>> to tell me what various things were.  Maybe I did not give it enough 
>> time.  I returned mine for a total refund.  Am pretty sure you would 
>> be able to return the echo dot for full refund too.
>>
>> On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA
>> 73 Kitty
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of llump...@austin.rr.com
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>>
>> The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll 
>> probably have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and 
>> you’ll need an amazon account to link it to. Once set up, it should 
>> be fairly straight forward to use. If it doesn’t work out, You can 
>> probably return it to amazon.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Dan
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
>> To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: echo and echo dot
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other 
>> devices but didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one 
>> for myself.  I still do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 
>> this year and is not very tech savvied has lost almost all of her 
>> sight and doesn't want to use VO or talkback on her phone.  I am 
>> thinking of getting one of these because after demoing givi

Re: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
I've heard, that you can't put 2 echo fourth generations in stereo
mode then pair with bluetooth.  If I had my own house, I'd have echo
fourth gens in every room of my house.  It would be great to go into
the livingroom in the recliner and have the fourth gen echo on the
table beside me.

On 5/21/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> I have the third generation echo dot. It’s the last one that looks like a
> hockey puck the fourth generation looks more spherical. I’ve also heard that
> echo shows are really good to use as well I don’t have one but if I did it
> would probably be the echo show eight.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 21, 2022, at 1:58 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
>>
>> 
>> What is difference between the echo dot third and fourth generations?
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>>
>> The object identification for the Echo Show is very slow and that's
>> probably because you need to know where you are standing for the camera to
>> get the best view. I didn't find it useful. My original Echo which is
>> round with no screen works great. The ones with screens miss a lot but I
>> can't say if that is more due to my internet or that they are far from
>> fool proof. For the most part, I love having them and use mine each day.
>> If you don't need a screen for any reason, don't bother buying the more
>> expensive ones. Read the specs for each device so you know what you are
>> paying for. I bought an Echo 5 inch screenn one for something like $33 a
>> year or so ago for a friend,  and she loves it. I can ask her to check in
>> on my dog while I am away if I have any concerns. Amazon had all kinds of
>> promotional stuff when I bought my Echo 5 with a little screen and my Echo
>> 10 and between a sale price and a promotional extra many dollars off, I
>> got a great deal on all of them.
>>
>>    Deidre
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> kheve...@fuse.net
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>>
>> Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo dot.  I
>> think the third generation has much better sound quality.  It also has
>> tactil markers for all controls.  I also tried the echo show 2.  It has a
>> camera and even better sound quality that the echo dot.  A friend who has
>> significant hearing loss got it.  It claims to identify product labels,
>> etc.  I found it much more difficult to set up than the echo dot.  For
>> whatever reason, I had trouble getting it to tell me what various things
>> were.  Maybe I did not give it enough time.  I returned mine for a total
>> refund.  Am pretty sure you would be able to return the echo dot for full
>> refund too.
>>
>> On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA
>> 73 Kitty
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> llump...@austin.rr.com
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>>
>> The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll
>> probably have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and you’ll
>> need an amazon account to link it to. Once set up, it should be fairly
>> straight forward to use. If it doesn’t work out, You can probably return
>> it to amazon.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Dan
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
>> To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: echo and echo dot
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other
>> devices but didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one for
>> myself.  I still do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 this year
>> and is not very tech savvied has lost almost all of her sight and doesn't
>> want to use VO or talkback on her phone.  I am thinking of getting one of
>> these because after demoing giving voice commands to my Iphone she is now
>> interested in doing something similar but not to her phone.  Her
>> occupational therapist has convinced her that devices like echos and echo
>> dots are more accurate and would work better for her.  She says this is
>> based on her experience as an OT.
>>
>>
>>
>> My question is this, which devices seem the most forgiving for less than
>> perfect speech when giving

Re: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread CHELA Robles 
I have the third generation echo dot. It’s the last one that looks like a 
hockey puck the fourth generation looks more spherical. I’ve also heard that 
echo shows are really good to use as well I don’t have one but if I did it 
would probably be the echo show eight.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2022, at 1:58 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
> 
> 
> What is difference between the echo dot third and fourth generations?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>  
> The object identification for the Echo Show is very slow and that's probably 
> because you need to know where you are standing for the camera to get the 
> best view. I didn't find it useful. My original Echo which is round with no 
> screen works great. The ones with screens miss a lot but I can't say if that 
> is more due to my internet or that they are far from fool proof. For the most 
> part, I love having them and use mine each day. If you don't need a screen 
> for any reason, don't bother buying the more expensive ones. Read the specs 
> for each device so you know what you are paying for. I bought an Echo 5 inch 
> screenn one for something like $33 a year or so ago for a friend,  and she 
> loves it. I can ask her to check in on my dog while I am away if I have any 
> concerns. Amazon had all kinds of promotional stuff when I bought my Echo 5 
> with a little screen and my Echo 10 and between a sale price and a 
> promotional extra many dollars off, I got a great deal on all of them.
>  
>Deidre
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>  
> Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo dot.  I 
> think the third generation has much better sound quality.  It also has tactil 
> markers for all controls.  I also tried the echo show 2.  It has a camera and 
> even better sound quality that the echo dot.  A friend who has significant 
> hearing loss got it.  It claims to identify product labels, etc.  I found it 
> much more difficult to set up than the echo dot.  For whatever reason, I had 
> trouble getting it to tell me what various things were.  Maybe I did not give 
> it enough time.  I returned mine for a total refund.  Am pretty sure you 
> would be able to return the echo dot for full refund too. 
>  
> On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA
> 73 Kitty
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>  
> The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll probably 
> have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and you’ll need an 
> amazon account to link it to. Once set up, it should be fairly straight 
> forward to use. If it doesn’t work out, You can probably return it to amazon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
> Subject: echo and echo dot
>  
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other devices 
> but didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one for myself.  I 
> still do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 this year and is not 
> very tech savvied has lost almost all of her sight and doesn't want to use VO 
> or talkback on her phone.  I am thinking of getting one of these because 
> after demoing giving voice commands to my Iphone she is now interested in 
> doing something similar but not to her phone.  Her occupational therapist has 
> convinced her that devices like echos and echo dots are more accurate and 
> would work better for her.  She says this is based on her experience as an OT.
> 
>  
> 
> My question is this, which devices seem the most forgiving for less than 
> perfect speech when giving voice commands?  We also do not want to spend a 
> ton of money in case this doesn't work out well for her.
> 
>  
> 
> Any thoughts/ideas greatly appreciated.
> 
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RE: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread khevener 
What is difference between the echo dot third and fourth generations?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: echo and echo dot

 

The object identification for the Echo Show is very slow and that's probably 
because you need to know where you are standing for the camera to get the best 
view. I didn't find it useful. My original Echo which is round with no screen 
works great. The ones with screens miss a lot but I can't say if that is more 
due to my internet or that they are far from fool proof. For the most part, I 
love having them and use mine each day. If you don't need a screen for any 
reason, don't bother buying the more expensive ones. Read the specs for each 
device so you know what you are paying for. I bought an Echo 5 inch screenn one 
for something like $33 a year or so ago for a friend,  and she loves it. I can 
ask her to check in on my dog while I am away if I have any concerns. Amazon 
had all kinds of promotional stuff when I bought my Echo 5 with a little screen 
and my Echo 10 and between a sale price and a promotional extra many dollars 
off, I got a great deal on all of them.

 

   Deidre

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net <mailto:kheve...@fuse.net> 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: echo and echo dot

 

Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo dot.  I think 
the third generation has much better sound quality.  It also has tactil markers 
for all controls.  I also tried the echo show 2.  It has a camera and even 
better sound quality that the echo dot.  A friend who has significant hearing 
loss got it.  It claims to identify product labels, etc.  I found it much more 
difficult to set up than the echo dot.  For whatever reason, I had trouble 
getting it to tell me what various things were.  Maybe I did not give it enough 
time.  I returned mine for a total refund.  Am pretty sure you would be able to 
return the echo dot for full refund too.  

 

On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA

73 Kitty 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: echo and echo dot

 

The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll probably 
have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and you’ll need an amazon 
account to link it to. Once set up, it should be fairly straight forward to 
use. If it doesn’t work out, You can probably return it to amazon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: echo and echo dot

 

Hi all,

 

I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other devices but 
didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one for myself.  I still 
do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 this year and is not very tech 
savvied has lost almost all of her sight and doesn't want to use VO or talkback 
on her phone.  I am thinking of getting one of these because after demoing 
giving voice commands to my Iphone she is now interested in doing something 
similar but not to her phone.  Her occupational therapist has convinced her 
that devices like echos and echo dots are more accurate and would work better 
for her.  She says this is based on her experience as an OT. 

 

My question is this, which devices seem the most forgiving for less than 
perfect speech when giving voice commands?  We also do not want to spend a ton 
of money in case this doesn't work out well for her.

 

Any thoughts/ideas greatly appreciated.

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RE: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread Debbie Downey 
They even sound better when you have 2 of them and they are paired. I think I 
got the same deal that you did for $60 each!

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 4:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: echo and echo dot

I have a fourth generation Echo that I bought on sale for $60 that was 
originally $100.  It has very nice sound.  I often use it with my iPhone to 
listen to music from my phone and to stream audio dramas from my phone.  I have 
also streamed bard books from bard mobile through my echo via my phone and they 
also sound very good.  The echo fourth generation can get quite loud as well.

On 5/21/22, deidreandlou...@gmail.com  wrote:
> The object identification for the Echo Show is very slow and that's 
> probably because you need to know where you are standing for the 
> camera to get the best view. I didn't find it useful. My original Echo 
> which is round with no screen works great. The ones with screens miss 
> a lot but I can't say if that is more due to my internet or that they 
> are far from fool proof. For the most part, I love having them and use 
> mine each day. If you don't need a screen for any reason, don't bother 
> buying the more expensive ones. Read the specs for each device so you 
> know what you are paying for. I bought an Echo
> 5 inch screenn one for something like $33 a year or so ago for a 
> friend, and she loves it. I can ask her to check in on my dog while I 
> am away if I have any concerns. Amazon had all kinds of promotional 
> stuff when I bought my Echo 5 with a little screen and my Echo 10 and 
> between a sale price and a promotional extra many dollars off, I got a great 
> deal on all of them.
>
>
>
>Deidre
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>
>
>
> Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo dot.  
> I think the third generation has much better sound quality.  It also 
> has tactil markers for all controls.  I also tried the echo show 2.  
> It has a camera and even better sound quality that the echo dot.  A 
> friend who has significant hearing loss got it.  It claims to identify 
> product labels, etc.
>  I found it much more difficult to set up than the echo dot.  For 
> whatever reason, I had trouble getting it to tell me what various 
> things were.  Maybe I did not give it enough time.  I returned mine 
> for a total refund.  Am pretty sure you would be able to return the echo dot 
> for full refund too.
>
>
>
> On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA
>
> 73 Kitty
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>
>
>
> The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll 
> probably have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and 
> you’ll need an amazon account to link it to. Once set up, it should be 
> fairly straight forward to use. If it doesn’t work out, You can 
> probably return it to amazon.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Dan
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: 'cwc' via VIPhone  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: echo and echo dot
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other 
> devices but didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one 
> for myself.  I still do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 
> this year and is not very tech savvied has lost almost all of her 
> sight and doesn't want to use VO or talkback on her phone.  I am 
> thinking of getting one of these because after demoing giving voice 
> commands to my Iphone she is now interested in doing something similar 
> but not to her phone.  Her occupational therapist has convinced her 
> that devices like echos and echo dots are more accurate and would work 
> better for her.  She says this is based on her experience as an OT.
>
>
>
> My question is this, which devices seem the most forgiving for less 
> than perfect speech when giving voice commands?  We also do not want 
> to spend a ton of money in case this doesn't work out well for her.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts/ideas

Re: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
I have a fourth generation Echo that I bought on sale for $60 that was
originally $100.  It has very nice sound.  I often use it with my
iPhone to listen to music from my phone and to stream audio dramas
from my phone.  I have also streamed bard books from bard mobile
through my echo via my phone and they also sound very good.  The echo
fourth generation can get quite loud as well.

On 5/21/22, deidreandlou...@gmail.com  wrote:
> The object identification for the Echo Show is very slow and that's probably
> because you need to know where you are standing for the camera to get the
> best view. I didn't find it useful. My original Echo which is round with no
> screen works great. The ones with screens miss a lot but I can't say if that
> is more due to my internet or that they are far from fool proof. For the
> most part, I love having them and use mine each day. If you don't need a
> screen for any reason, don't bother buying the more expensive ones. Read the
> specs for each device so you know what you are paying for. I bought an Echo
> 5 inch screenn one for something like $33 a year or so ago for a friend,
> and she loves it. I can ask her to check in on my dog while I am away if I
> have any concerns. Amazon had all kinds of promotional stuff when I bought
> my Echo 5 with a little screen and my Echo 10 and between a sale price and a
> promotional extra many dollars off, I got a great deal on all of them.
>
>
>
>Deidre
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>
>
>
> Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo dot.  I
> think the third generation has much better sound quality.  It also has
> tactil markers for all controls.  I also tried the echo show 2.  It has a
> camera and even better sound quality that the echo dot.  A friend who has
> significant hearing loss got it.  It claims to identify product labels, etc.
>  I found it much more difficult to set up than the echo dot.  For whatever
> reason, I had trouble getting it to tell me what various things were.  Maybe
> I did not give it enough time.  I returned mine for a total refund.  Am
> pretty sure you would be able to return the echo dot for full refund too.
>
>
>
> On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA
>
> 73 Kitty
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: echo and echo dot
>
>
>
> The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll
> probably have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and you’ll
> need an amazon account to link it to. Once set up, it should be fairly
> straight forward to use. If it doesn’t work out, You can probably return it
> to amazon.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Dan
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: 'cwc' via VIPhone  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: echo and echo dot
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other devices
> but didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one for myself.  I
> still do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 this year and is not
> very tech savvied has lost almost all of her sight and doesn't want to use
> VO or talkback on her phone.  I am thinking of getting one of these because
> after demoing giving voice commands to my Iphone she is now interested in
> doing something similar but not to her phone.  Her occupational therapist
> has convinced her that devices like echos and echo dots are more accurate
> and would work better for her.  She says this is based on her experience as
> an OT.
>
>
>
> My question is this, which devices seem the most forgiving for less than
> perfect speech when giving voice commands?  We also do not want to spend a
> ton of money in case this doesn't work out well for her.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts/ideas greatly appreciated.
>
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RE: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread deidreandlouise 
The object identification for the Echo Show is very slow and that's probably 
because you need to know where you are standing for the camera to get the best 
view. I didn't find it useful. My original Echo which is round with no screen 
works great. The ones with screens miss a lot but I can't say if that is more 
due to my internet or that they are far from fool proof. For the most part, I 
love having them and use mine each day. If you don't need a screen for any 
reason, don't bother buying the more expensive ones. Read the specs for each 
device so you know what you are paying for. I bought an Echo 5 inch screenn one 
for something like $33 a year or so ago for a friend,  and she loves it. I can 
ask her to check in on my dog while I am away if I have any concerns. Amazon 
had all kinds of promotional stuff when I bought my Echo 5 with a little screen 
and my Echo 10 and between a sale price and a promotional extra many dollars 
off, I got a great deal on all of them.

 

   Deidre

 

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kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: echo and echo dot

 

Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo dot.  I think 
the third generation has much better sound quality.  It also has tactil markers 
for all controls.  I also tried the echo show 2.  It has a camera and even 
better sound quality that the echo dot.  A friend who has significant hearing 
loss got it.  It claims to identify product labels, etc.  I found it much more 
difficult to set up than the echo dot.  For whatever reason, I had trouble 
getting it to tell me what various things were.  Maybe I did not give it enough 
time.  I returned mine for a total refund.  Am pretty sure you would be able to 
return the echo dot for full refund too.  

 

On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA

73 Kitty 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: echo and echo dot

 

The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll probably 
have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and you’ll need an amazon 
account to link it to. Once set up, it should be fairly straight forward to 
use. If it doesn’t work out, You can probably return it to amazon.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: echo and echo dot

 

Hi all,

 

I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other devices but 
didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one for myself.  I still 
do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 this year and is not very tech 
savvied has lost almost all of her sight and doesn't want to use VO or talkback 
on her phone.  I am thinking of getting one of these because after demoing 
giving voice commands to my Iphone she is now interested in doing something 
similar but not to her phone.  Her occupational therapist has convinced her 
that devices like echos and echo dots are more accurate and would work better 
for her.  She says this is based on her experience as an OT. 

 

My question is this, which devices seem the most forgiving for less than 
perfect speech when giving voice commands?  We also do not want to spend a ton 
of money in case this doesn't work out well for her.

 

Any thoughts/ideas greatly appreciated.

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RE: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread khevener 
Dan, I have used both the second and third generation of the echo dot.  I think 
the third generation has much better sound quality.  It also has tactil markers 
for all controls.  I also tried the echo show 2.  It has a camera and even 
better sound quality that the echo dot.  A friend who has significant hearing 
loss got it.  It claims to identify product labels, etc.  I found it much more 
difficult to set up than the echo dot.  For whatever reason, I had trouble 
getting it to tell me what various things were.  Maybe I did not give it enough 
time.  I returned mine for a total refund.  Am pretty sure you would be able to 
return the echo dot for full refund too.  

 

On a different tone, I like your ham call.  I’m W8TDA

73 Kitty 

 

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Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:35 PM
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Subject: RE: echo and echo dot

 

The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll probably 
have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and you’ll need an amazon 
account to link it to. Once set up, it should be fairly straight forward to 
use. If it doesn’t work out, You can probably return it to amazon.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: echo and echo dot

 

Hi all,

 

I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other devices but 
didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one for myself.  I still 
do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 this year and is not very tech 
savvied has lost almost all of her sight and doesn't want to use VO or talkback 
on her phone.  I am thinking of getting one of these because after demoing 
giving voice commands to my Iphone she is now interested in doing something 
similar but not to her phone.  Her occupational therapist has convinced her 
that devices like echos and echo dots are more accurate and would work better 
for her.  She says this is based on her experience as an OT. 

 

My question is this, which devices seem the most forgiving for less than 
perfect speech when giving voice commands?  We also do not want to spend a ton 
of money in case this doesn't work out well for her.

 

Any thoughts/ideas greatly appreciated.

 

 

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RE: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread Richard Turner 
The main difference between the echo dot and the other echo units is size and 
sound quality.

I have the Echo show 5.  It has excellent sound quality.

It does have the camera and if you hold something up to it and ask Alexa what 
it is, it will do a good job in telling you.

Note, there has to be Wi-Fi in the house.

 

There are a fair number of commands to learn, but I think just asking Alexa for 
help in how to ask it things results in some good help.

 

I think the Echo Show 5 was about $70?

There are newer models of course but you can get her something that will sound 
good and be loud enough if her hearing is getting less acute for well under 
$100.

 

Someone will need to set it up for her of course.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

 

My web site;   https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 10:31 AM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: echo and echo dot

 

Hi all,

 

I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other devices but 
didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one for myself.  I still 
do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 this year and is not very tech 
savvied has lost almost all of her sight and doesn't want to use VO or talkback 
on her phone.  I am thinking of getting one of these because after demoing 
giving voice commands to my Iphone she is now interested in doing something 
similar but not to her phone.  Her occupational therapist has convinced her 
that devices like echos and echo dots are more accurate and would work better 
for her.  She says this is based on her experience as an OT. 

 

My question is this, which devices seem the most forgiving for less than 
perfect speech when giving voice commands?  We also do not want to spend a ton 
of money in case this doesn't work out well for her.

 

Any thoughts/ideas greatly appreciated.

 

 

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RE: echo and echo dot

2022-05-21 Thread llumpkin 
The Echo Dot can be had for less than $50 and is worth a try. You’ll probably 
have to set it up through the Alexa app on your phone and you’ll need an amazon 
account to link it to. Once set up, it should be fairly straight forward to 
use. If it doesn’t work out, You can probably return it to amazon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 12:31 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: echo and echo dot

 

Hi all,

 

I recall seeing a fairly extensive discussion about these and other devices but 
didn't pay much attention then because I didn't need one for myself.  I still 
do not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 this year and is not very tech 
savvied has lost almost all of her sight and doesn't want to use VO or talkback 
on her phone.  I am thinking of getting one of these because after demoing 
giving voice commands to my Iphone she is now interested in doing something 
similar but not to her phone.  Her occupational therapist has convinced her 
that devices like echos and echo dots are more accurate and would work better 
for her.  She says this is based on her experience as an OT. 

 

My question is this, which devices seem the most forgiving for less than 
perfect speech when giving voice commands?  We also do not want to spend a ton 
of money in case this doesn't work out well for her.

 

Any thoughts/ideas greatly appreciated.

 

 

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