RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-30 Thread Rose Combs
Lenartiene Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. I don't have Light Detector, but I do have SeeingAssistant Light, and that one works for me. Have you tried that one? Cheryl Be joyful always, pray

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. I don't have Light Detector, but I do have SeeingAssistant Light

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-30 Thread Robert Hill
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Light Detector works fine for me. Make sure you go to Settings, Privacy and Camera to make sure

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Pablo, Whether we give money to Apple by buying iPhones will make no difference, I mean zero

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Correct, and I believe it was something like 9 people who actually reported their iPhone bent out of several millions which were sold. I bent my iPhone 5S a few months ago but it was my own fault and if you were to really

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread alia robinson
The only way to improve products is to use them and report bugs when we find them, as stated before if every person using accessibility stopped buying it wouldn't make not a single bit of difference, and apple isn't making money off accessibility; they could just stop doing it, period. I can't

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Light Detector works fine for me. Make sure you go to Settings, Privacy and Camera to make sure Light Detector is allowed to use the Camera. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Light Detector works fine for me. Make sure you go to Settings, Privacy and Camera to make sure Light Detector is allowed to use the Camera

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Also Omoby doesn't work. But Tap Tap See does. Go figure! Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on lights get all

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Sieghard If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving your life quality. You will not improve the apple devices, you will not improve the IOs8 quality either. Maybe you are protecting your own business now, but one year

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
a superior and more importantly a more secure platform. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread alia robinson
I still don't think it's usable off the shelf, but that's just me. Nothing comes close to the iphone for being able to buy and go, and the reason I am on an iphone list is because I firmly believe that still. If I wanted to bash idevices I would go to an android list and do so; I am here to

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread David Chittenden
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Pablo, Whether we give money to Apple by buying iPhones will make no difference, I mean zero. Apple sold over ten million iPhones

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pinky
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Sieghard If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving your life quality. You will not improve the apple devices

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
Oh lord. Now the economy is handle like you said? Buying things that are not working well, improve the quality of the product? Where is the value of the competition in this formula? Yes, apple as android, as many other brans has to work with the accessibility. It is mandatory now. It is mandatory

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Pablo Even with the bugs Apple has it is still easy to use and a lot of fun. For example I was able to take a picture of my son and it was good enough for him to add to his instagram account. Try doing that with the Windows phones. Yes there are bugs but IOS and voiceover are very much useable and

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Juan Hernandez
Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. Pablo Even with the bugs Apple has it is still easy to use and a lot of fun. For example I was able to take a picture of my son and it was good enough for him

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
Yes, it is true, apple is very fun. But we don't have to congratulate apple every time when they put in the market what ever new, more when they have bugs in their IOs. ur mistake is that we are giving our money, what ever they want, when they are not been responsible with the customers, when

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Juan Hernandez
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. Yes, it is true, apple is very fun. But we don't have to congratulate apple every time when they put in the market what ever new, more when they have bugs in their IOs. ur mistake is that we are giving our money, what ever they want

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure what you mean by the references below to not being able to use Android phones or Windows computers off the shelf. A blind person can enable Talk Back on an Android phone without any sighted assistance. I've done this myself on a Nexis 7. Windows has also added a hot key to start

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I actually think it's inappropriate to come to an iPhone list and bash Android devices just as I think it's inappropriate to go to an Android list and bash iPhones. What works for one person may not work for another. Instead of getting defensive when someone else mentions another product, I

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Robin
I agree, and we shouldn't circle the wagons when someone shares their frustrations and/or disappointments about said platform (i.e, iOS), and recommend they switch Mobile platforms in the process. We should let them voice their frustrations and/or disappointments to help determine whether or

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
-Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. Yes, it is true, apple is very fun. But we don't have

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I think it's time to stop with the I might and get to it. I have already called with one problem myself and will call with others when I encounter them. Think of this as your help in Apple's therapy. grin - Original Message - From: Kevin Wassmer kevinwass...@gmail.com To:

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread RobH.
Sadder when you spend all that extra money, and find some of the irritations and limitations of a'droid. Agree, those iOs bugs are bad!.. some have managed to work around and live with them, while they're fixed. JMO, R. - Original Message - From: Kevin Wassmer

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Rose Combs
Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on lights get all confused with my ceiling fans etc., I used regularly and right now I can't get it to work. Money reader does work. -Original

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Robin
It appears you are highly invested in Apple products/services, and I suggest you contact both Apple and/or Apple Accessibility to address your concerns and give them some constructive criticism, but in my opinion, leaving to go to another Mobile PlatForm is not the answer. Although I do

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
I have not been following this thread, but whomever wrote the original message has not been paying attention since a solution to the bluetooth keyboard problem has been posted several times before yesterday. Yes, the keys sticking in the phone keypad is an annoying problem. Yes, iOS 8 is perhaps

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Vicky Collins
Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on lights get all confused with my ceiling fans etc., I used regularly and right now I can't get it to work

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. I think it's time to stop with the I might and get to it. I have already called with one problem myself and will call with others when I encounter them. Think of this as your help in Apple's therapy. grin - Original Message

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Anna Byrne
Also Omoby doesn't work. But Tap Tap See does. Go figure! Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on lights get all confused with my ceiling fans etc., I used regularly and right now I can't

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I want to remind the person who started this thread that if they had done their research before upgrading they would have been educated as to the problems with IOS 8. Knowing that IOS has major bugs with bluetooth keyboars, I would have thought twice about upgrading. This includes the knowledge

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Charles Rivard
: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:21 AM Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on lights

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Brett
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:21 AM Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on lights get all confused with my

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:21 AM Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on lights get all confused with my

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Pablo Morales
Well my friend. I can tell you. You are right. Apple in the last 2 years has been doing very very bad. They are abusing of their reputation. They are believing that they are enough, and they are not paying so much attention to the quality of their products. As I said before. My iPhone 5s, is the

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Pablo Morales
- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH. Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. Sadder when you spend all that extra money, and find some of the irritations

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread David Chittenden
Did you also read the Consumer Reports follow-up report where they purchased an iPhone 6+ and tested it against sevcral other phones of the same size? Well, the iPhone withstood 20 pounds more pressure before starting to bend compared with it's closest competitor. In other words, the story

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I agree this is good advice, but one of the advantages of going with Apple and their mainstream products is that we should be on a level playing field with our sighted counterparts. If a blind person has to wait for other blind people to update to see what bugs exist in an update to IOS before

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, 2014 4:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Nope, are another solution. Keep IOs 7.1.2, and do not upgrade to IOs8, like this, no bugs will be doing anything in your iDevice. If you don't have and iPhone, do not buy any iPhone 6s or iPhone 6. Just buy

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
: Re: issues I have with the new update. Did you also read the Consumer Reports follow-up report where they purchased an iPhone 6+ and tested it against sevcral other phones of the same size? Well, the iPhone withstood 20 pounds more pressure before starting to bend compared with it's closest