RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread R Van Lant
This hits on my frustration since upgrading to  16.x.  I find that Siri no 
longer recognizes commands I've been using for years - -or it takes a couple 
tries to get it right. It's really frustrating.  I already reported to them 
that I have trouble hearing the tone that indicates Siri is listening. When I'm 
in a car or anywhere with some background noise, I cannot tell if she's started 
listening. Apple accessibility  said they forwarded my concern on, since there 
is currently no way to change those tones.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

Siri is not good at recognizing :natural" speech; it often has a particular 
syntax it wants. I think Siri recognizes "dial" such and such a person. Even 
so, I've had to change names in my contacts before because even if I only have 
one Michael, Siri sometimes comes up with a short list of other names 
completely unrelated. I find that most annoying too.  

Deidre

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Frank
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:18 AM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t understand 
me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an easy work 
around.
Thomas Frank
vermont...@gmail.com



> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't done 
> any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor bug 
> fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no phone 
> service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the message 
> app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the already 
> dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those functions kind of 
> defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more spontaneously without 
> having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do with the function 
> capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
> 
> Deidre
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Rash
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
> 
> Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do 
> you want to know about Tom Smith.”
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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread R Van Lant
I rarely use Siri to sent a text. I'm just talking about the dictation function 
on the keyboard in any text entry spot.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

I just was looking at the Siri settings, under Settings, Accessibility, Siri, 
and there is a setting called: Show Apps Behind Siri, which for me is off.  I 
don't recall setting it.  I wonder if that is why there is no message shown 
because this is not on?

I don't use Siri this way to the extent others do so have not felt it to be a 
problem.

But, maybe check that setting and change it to see what impact that has.

HTH,


Richard, USA.
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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

Not sure what you mean that you can still add to messages outside the message 
app, if I dictate a message using Siri and it reads back the message and I want 
to add something, I can say "append" and then dictate what I want to add.
But if you mean that it seems to be no longer possible to manually edit a 
message after dictating it to Siri then I agree that this is a big pain in the 
neck.
By this I mean not dictating a message when you are in the Messages app and you 
do a 2-finger double tap or tap the dictate button, but asking Siri "Message 
John Smith.
In iOS 15 if I said "Message John Smith, Hi John, I am going to be a bit late 
for our meeting, but it shouldn't be more than 10 minutes" I could touch the 
screen near the top after Siri read back the message and I could then double 
tap once I found the message on the screen and I could review and if necessary 
correct any mistakes. That seems to be no longer possible, I have been meaning 
to ask a sighted person if they can do this, but when you use Voiceover at 
least after Siri reads back the message and asks if you want to send it you can 
check the screen anywhere and there is no message.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't done 
any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor bug fixes 
with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further disappointed. I 
often send messages on my back up old phone that has no phone service because I 
can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the message app and it will add 
to them without losing the first part of the already dictated message, which is 
what Siri now does. Losing those functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a 
context, that is, more spontaneously without having to go into the message app. 
Maybe it has to do with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 

Deidre
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do you 
want to know about Tom Smith.”

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Re: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread deidre muccio
I agree 100%. I put in my report with a long list quite some time ago. It’s the 
same with any kind of advocacy work like  grassroots City making policy issues. 
 It’s not great when the same  One or two persons are giving public comment 
versus  10   Different speakers; makes all the difference – the more the better.

Deidre


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2022, at 11:59 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> What is key in reporting issues, is that Apple receives reports from lots of 
> different people.
> Multiple reports from the same person on the same issue does nothing but take 
> up time.  If only a handful of people are reporting an issue, it could be 
> something with their particular setup so Apple won't prioritize that.
> 
> However, if lots of different people report the same issue, then it is clear 
> to them it is not an isolated issue.
> 
> Just my thoughts.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
> 
> Anyway, I think Apple thinks I’m stupid maybe because they obviously cannot 
> replicate on their end in regards to Siri and dictation which I think they 
> should be able to but I think it’s hit or miss with Apple accessibility. you 
> know, priorities. but I guess if we all just keep doing what we do in regards 
> to reporting these issues, maybe they’ll get to it like someone else said in 
> the thread. Much faster hopefully. I know dictation has been really messy for 
> a very long time, but so has Siri. At least since version 16 I have version 
> 16.1.1. I went from version 15 the last iteration of version 15 to 16.1.1 and 
> that’s when I discovered issues.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 8:18 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Siri is not good at recognizing :natural" speech; it often has a particular 
>> syntax it wants. I think Siri recognizes "dial" such and such a person. Even 
>> so, I've had to change names in my contacts before because even if I only 
>> have one Michael, Siri sometimes comes up with a short list of other names 
>> completely unrelated. I find that most annoying too.  
>> 
>>   Deidre
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Thomas Frank
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:18 AM
>> To: VIPhone via 
>> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
>> 
>> Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
>> ’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t 
>> understand me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an 
>> easy work around.
>> Thomas Frank
>> vermont...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't 
>>> done any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor 
>>> bug fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
>>> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no 
>>> phone service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the 
>>> message app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the 
>>> already dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those 
>>> functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more 
>>> spontaneously without having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do 
>>> with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
>>> 
>>> Deidre
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
>>> Rash
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
>>> To: Viphone 
>>> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
>>> 
>>> Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do 
>>> you want to know about Tom Smith.”
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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread Richard Turner
I just was looking at the Siri settings, under Settings, Accessibility, Siri, 
and there is a setting called: Show Apps Behind Siri, which for me is off.  I 
don't recall setting it.  I wonder if that is why there is no message shown 
because this is not on?

I don't use Siri this way to the extent others do so have not felt it to be a 
problem.

But, maybe check that setting and change it to see what impact that has.

HTH,


Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

Not sure what you mean that you can still add to messages outside the message 
app, if I dictate a message using Siri and it reads back the message and I want 
to add something, I can say "append" and then dictate what I want to add.
But if you mean that it seems to be no longer possible to manually edit a 
message after dictating it to Siri then I agree that this is a big pain in the 
neck.
By this I mean not dictating a message when you are in the Messages app and you 
do a 2-finger double tap or tap the dictate button, but asking Siri "Message 
John Smith.
In iOS 15 if I said "Message John Smith, Hi John, I am going to be a bit late 
for our meeting, but it shouldn't be more than 10 minutes" I could touch the 
screen near the top after Siri read back the message and I could then double 
tap once I found the message on the screen and I could review and if necessary 
correct any mistakes. That seems to be no longer possible, I have been meaning 
to ask a sighted person if they can do this, but when you use Voiceover at 
least after Siri reads back the message and asks if you want to send it you can 
check the screen anywhere and there is no message.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't done 
any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor bug fixes 
with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further disappointed. I 
often send messages on my back up old phone that has no phone service because I 
can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the message app and it will add 
to them without losing the first part of the already dictated message, which is 
what Siri now does. Losing those functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a 
context, that is, more spontaneously without having to go into the message app. 
Maybe it has to do with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 

Deidre
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do you 
want to know about Tom Smith.”

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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You can always do a screen recording and send it to Apple to show them the 
issue.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Anyway, I think Apple thinks I’m stupid maybe because they obviously cannot 
replicate on their end in regards to Siri and dictation which I think they 
should be able to but I think it’s hit or miss with Apple accessibility. you 
know, priorities. but I guess if we all just keep doing what we do in regards 
to reporting these issues, maybe they’ll get to it like someone else said in 
the thread. Much faster hopefully. I know dictation has been really messy for a 
very long time, but so has Siri. At least since version 16 I have version 
16.1.1. I went from version 15 the last iteration of version 15 to 16.1.1 and 
that’s when I discovered issues.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2022, at 8:18 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Siri is not good at recognizing :natural" speech; it often has a particular 
> syntax it wants. I think Siri recognizes "dial" such and such a person. Even 
> so, I've had to change names in my contacts before because even if I only 
> have one Michael, Siri sometimes comes up with a short list of other names 
> completely unrelated. I find that most annoying too.  
> 
>Deidre
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thomas 
> Frank
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:18 AM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
> 
> Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
> ’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t 
> understand me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an 
> easy work around.
> Thomas Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't 
>> done any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor 
>> bug fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
>> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no 
>> phone service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the 
>> message app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the 
>> already dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those 
>> functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more 
>> spontaneously without having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do 
>> with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Rash
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
>> 
>> Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do 
>> you want to know about Tom Smith.”
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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Not sure what you mean that you can still add to messages outside the message 
app, if I dictate a message using Siri and it reads back the message and I want 
to add something, I can say "append" and then dictate what I want to add.
But if you mean that it seems to be no longer possible to manually edit a 
message after dictating it to Siri then I agree that this is a big pain in the 
neck.
By this I mean not dictating a message when you are in the Messages app and you 
do a 2-finger double tap or tap the dictate button, but asking Siri "Message 
John Smith.
In iOS 15 if I said "Message John Smith, Hi John, I am going to be a bit late 
for our meeting, but it shouldn't be more than 10 minutes" I could touch the 
screen near the top after Siri read back the message and I could then double 
tap once I found the message on the screen and I could review and if necessary 
correct any mistakes. That seems to be no longer possible, I have been meaning 
to ask a sighted person if they can do this, but when you use Voiceover at 
least after Siri reads back the message and asks if you want to send it you can 
check the screen anywhere and there is no message.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't done 
any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor bug fixes 
with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further disappointed. I 
often send messages on my back up old phone that has no phone service because I 
can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the message app and it will add 
to them without losing the first part of the already dictated message, which is 
what Siri now does. Losing those functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a 
context, that is, more spontaneously without having to go into the message app. 
Maybe it has to do with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 

Deidre
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do you 
want to know about Tom Smith.”

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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I have gotten this as well, but it's very rare and typically if I then repeat 
my request to call whoever it is I want to call it will then be fine. It's the 
same when my phone is locked and I use my wired headset to ask Siri to call 
somebody, sometimes I get "You have to unlock your device first". This of 
course is nonsense so usually I just ask again and it then works. To me these 
are minor glitches, but the issue with the magic tap being relatively 
unreliable hopefully gets more attention and a fix as long as enough people 
contact Apple Accessibility about it.


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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 5:27 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do you 
want to know about Tom Smith.”

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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread Richard Turner
What is key in reporting issues, is that Apple receives reports from lots of 
different people.
Multiple reports from the same person on the same issue does nothing but take 
up time.  If only a handful of people are reporting an issue, it could be 
something with their particular setup so Apple won't prioritize that.

However, if lots of different people report the same issue, then it is clear to 
them it is not an isolated issue.

Just my thoughts.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Anyway, I think Apple thinks I’m stupid maybe because they obviously cannot 
replicate on their end in regards to Siri and dictation which I think they 
should be able to but I think it’s hit or miss with Apple accessibility. you 
know, priorities. but I guess if we all just keep doing what we do in regards 
to reporting these issues, maybe they’ll get to it like someone else said in 
the thread. Much faster hopefully. I know dictation has been really messy for a 
very long time, but so has Siri. At least since version 16 I have version 
16.1.1. I went from version 15 the last iteration of version 15 to 16.1.1 and 
that’s when I discovered issues.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2022, at 8:18 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Siri is not good at recognizing :natural" speech; it often has a particular 
> syntax it wants. I think Siri recognizes "dial" such and such a person. Even 
> so, I've had to change names in my contacts before because even if I only 
> have one Michael, Siri sometimes comes up with a short list of other names 
> completely unrelated. I find that most annoying too.  
> 
>Deidre
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thomas 
> Frank
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:18 AM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
> 
> Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
> ’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t 
> understand me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an 
> easy work around.
> Thomas Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't 
>> done any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor 
>> bug fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
>> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no 
>> phone service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the 
>> message app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the 
>> already dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those 
>> functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more 
>> spontaneously without having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do 
>> with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Rash
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
>> 
>> Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do 
>> you want to know about Tom Smith.”
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Re: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread CHELA Robles
Anyway, I think Apple thinks I’m stupid maybe because they obviously cannot 
replicate on their end in regards to Siri and dictation which I think they 
should be able to but I think it’s hit or miss with Apple accessibility. you 
know, priorities. but I guess if we all just keep doing what we do in regards 
to reporting these issues, maybe they’ll get to it like someone else said in 
the thread. Much faster hopefully. I know dictation has been really messy for a 
very long time, but so has Siri. At least since version 16 I have version 
16.1.1. I went from version 15 the last iteration of version 15 to 16.1.1 and 
that’s when I discovered issues.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2022, at 8:18 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Siri is not good at recognizing :natural" speech; it often has a particular 
> syntax it wants. I think Siri recognizes "dial" such and such a person. Even 
> so, I've had to change names in my contacts before because even if I only 
> have one Michael, Siri sometimes comes up with a short list of other names 
> completely unrelated. I find that most annoying too.  
> 
>Deidre
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thomas 
> Frank
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:18 AM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
> 
> Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
> ’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t 
> understand me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an 
> easy work around.
> Thomas Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't 
>> done any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor 
>> bug fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
>> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no 
>> phone service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the 
>> message app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the 
>> already dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those 
>> functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more 
>> spontaneously without having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do 
>> with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Rash
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
>> 
>> Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do 
>> you want to know about Tom Smith.”
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Re: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread CHELA Robles
You would figure that since Siri can actually sound like a natural voice that 
it would pick up on natural speech and yes, I have reported this numerous times 
since 16 came out to Apple accessibility and I get no response, nor anything to 
do with how to troubleshoot it and except one time where they said they 
couldn’t replicate the issue. Even my mom and dad are not sight impaired, and 
they have a hard time using it even the dictation wrapping this around back to 
the dictation subject.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2022, at 8:18 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Siri is not good at recognizing :natural" speech; it often has a particular 
> syntax it wants. I think Siri recognizes "dial" such and such a person. Even 
> so, I've had to change names in my contacts before because even if I only 
> have one Michael, Siri sometimes comes up with a short list of other names 
> completely unrelated. I find that most annoying too.  
> 
>Deidre
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thomas 
> Frank
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:18 AM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
> 
> Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
> ’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t 
> understand me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an 
> easy work around.
> Thomas Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't 
>> done any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor 
>> bug fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
>> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no 
>> phone service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the 
>> message app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the 
>> already dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those 
>> functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more 
>> spontaneously without having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do 
>> with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Rash
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
>> 
>> Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do 
>> you want to know about Tom Smith.”
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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread deidreandlouise
Siri is not good at recognizing :natural" speech; it often has a particular 
syntax it wants. I think Siri recognizes "dial" such and such a person. Even 
so, I've had to change names in my contacts before because even if I only have 
one Michael, Siri sometimes comes up with a short list of other names 
completely unrelated. I find that most annoying too.  

Deidre

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thomas 
Frank
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:18 AM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t understand 
me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an easy work 
around.
Thomas Frank
vermont...@gmail.com



> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't done 
> any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor bug 
> fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no phone 
> service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the message 
> app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the already 
> dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those functions kind of 
> defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more spontaneously without 
> having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do with the function 
> capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
> 
> Deidre
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Rash
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
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Re: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread Thomas Frank
Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t understand 
me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an easy work 
around.
Thomas Frank
vermont...@gmail.com



> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't done 
> any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor bug 
> fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no phone 
> service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the message 
> app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the already 
> dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those functions kind of 
> defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more spontaneously without 
> having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do with the function 
> capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
> 
> Deidre
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Rash
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
> 
> Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do 
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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread deidreandlouise
Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't done 
any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor bug fixes 
with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further disappointed. I 
often send messages on my back up old phone that has no phone service because I 
can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the message app and it will add 
to them without losing the first part of the already dictated message, which is 
what Siri now does. Losing those functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a 
context, that is, more spontaneously without having to go into the message app. 
Maybe it has to do with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 

Deidre
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: stopping dictation

Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do you 
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Re: stopping dictation

2022-11-30 Thread Tom Rash
Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do you 
want to know about Tom Smith.”

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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Report it to Apple accessibility because the more people report this the sooner 
it will get fixed.

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Importance: High

am having the same issue here.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: Katrina Anderson<mailto:kanderson8...@sbcglobal.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 4:13 AM
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

Since IOS 16.1, the 2-finger double tap to stop dictation frequently starts 
music.  I eventually can stop the music via Hey Siri, but it usually requires 
multiple attempts…possibly because Siri can’t hear me over the music.  I have 
reported the problem, and am hoping it will be soon fixed.

Katrina

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: stopping dictation

Hi,
I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade. 
 Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button to the 
left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to stop 
dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, but it seems to 
me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, doing 
this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my phone. 
Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I’m still in 
dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to the 
app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a two-finger 
double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either that, or my 
latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.For now, I’m 
trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap.

Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.



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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread Katrina Anderson
If I remember, I will try that.  However, I struggle to hear voiceover over the 
music.

Katrina

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 11:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: stopping dictation

I find that sometimes the focus on the phone 
changes between when I double tap to start 
dictation and double tap to stop it.  Turning on 
music indicates that you are no longer on an edit 
field.  When it happens to me, I have to locate 
the message text and double tap on it.


At 10:13 PM 11/29/2022, you wrote:

>Since IOS 16.1, the 2-finger double tap to stop 
>dictation frequently starts music.  I 
>eventually can stop the music via Hey Siri, but 
>it usually requires multiple attempts…poossibly 
>because Siri can’t hear me over the music.  I 
>have reported the problem, and am hoping it will be soon fixed.
>
>
>
>Katrina
>
>
>
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of R Van Lant
>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:43 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: stopping dictation
>
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I’ve noticed something very  recently and 
>think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade.  Wondering 
>if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the 
>dictate button to the left on the keyboard.  I 
>realize that I can one finger double tap to stop 
>dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved 
>from that button, but it seems to me that I’ve 
>been using a two-finger double tap for 
>years.  As of late, doing this gesture out of 
>muscle memory often starts the music player on 
>my phone. Even if I do another two finger double 
>tap to stop the  music, I’m still in dictation 
>mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap 
>switcher and go back to the app, which disrupted 
>dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a 
>two-finger double tap to stop dictation and 
>notice this as a change?  Either that, or my 
>latest birthday has send my brain into some 
>weird memory void.For now, I’m trying to 
>retrain myself to the one finger double tap.
>
>
>
>Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread CHELA Robles
I’ve also noticed that Siri is getting dumber than prior years as well. for 
example, I will tell it to open Paramount plus and it will tell me I’m sorry it 
looks like you don't have Paramount plus and then it tells me to search for it 
on the store when in fact, I have to trick it by saying launch Paramount+, 
which it usually works and I say usually because sometimes it doesn’t.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 29, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> I find that sometimes the focus on the phone changes between when I double 
> tap to start dictation and double tap to stop it.  Turning on music indicates 
> that you are no longer on an edit field.  When it happens to me, I have to 
> locate the message text and double tap on it.
> 
> 
> At 10:13 PM 11/29/2022, you wrote:
> 
>> Since IOS 16.1, the 2-finger double tap to stop dictation frequently starts 
>> music.  I eventually can stop the music via Hey Siri, but it usually 
>> requires multiple attempts…poossibly because Siri can’t hear me over the 
>> music.  I have reported the problem, and am hoping it will be soon fixed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Katrina
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
>> Lant
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: stopping dictation
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 
>> upgrade.  Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate 
>> button to the left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double 
>> tap to stop dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, 
>> but it seems to me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years. 
>>  As of late, doing this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music 
>> player on my phone. Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  
>> music, I’m still in dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap 
>> switcher and go back to the app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, 
>> does anyone else use a two-finger double tap to stop dictation and notice 
>> this as a change?  Either that, or my latest birthday has send my brain into 
>> some weird memory void.For now, I’m trying to retrain myself to the 
>> one finger double tap.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread Ann Byrne
I find that sometimes the focus on the phone 
changes between when I double tap to start 
dictation and double tap to stop it.  Turning on 
music indicates that you are no longer on an edit 
field.  When it happens to me, I have to locate 
the message text and double tap on it.



At 10:13 PM 11/29/2022, you wrote:

Since IOS 16.1, the 2-finger double tap to stop 
dictation frequently starts music.  I 
eventually can stop the music via Hey Siri, but 
it usually requires multiple attempts…poossibly 
because Siri can’t hear me over the music.  I 
have reported the problem, and am hoping it will be soon fixed.




Katrina



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of R Van Lant

Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: stopping dictation



Hi,

I’ve noticed something very  recently and 
think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade.  Wondering 
if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the 
dictate button to the left on the keyboard.  I 
realize that I can one finger double tap to stop 
dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved 
from that button, but it seems to me that I’ve 
been using a two-finger double tap for 
years.  As of late, doing this gesture out of 
muscle memory often starts the music player on 
my phone. Even if I do another two finger double 
tap to stop the  music, I’m still in dictation 
mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap 
switcher and go back to the app, which disrupted 
dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a 
two-finger double tap to stop dictation and 
notice this as a change?  Either that, or my 
latest birthday has send my brain into some 
weird memory void.For now, I’m trying to 
retrain myself to the one finger double tap.




Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.







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Re: stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread goshawk on horseback
am having the same issue here. 

Simon 


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  From: Katrina Anderson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 4:13 AM
  Subject: RE: stopping dictation


  Since IOS 16.1, the 2-finger double tap to stop dictation frequently starts 
music.  I eventually can stop the music via Hey Siri, but it usually requires 
multiple attempts…possibly because Siri can’t hear me over the music.  I have 
reported the problem, and am hoping it will be soon fixed.

   

  Katrina

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
  Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:43 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: stopping dictation

   

  Hi,

  I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 
upgrade.  Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button 
to the left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to 
stop dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, but it seems 
to me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, 
doing this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my 
phone. Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I’m still 
in dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to 
the app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a 
two-finger double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either 
that, or my latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.
For now, I’m trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap.

   

  Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.

   

   

   

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Re: stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread CHELA Robles
You know, what I’ve noticed, is that when I start dictation it works very well, but when I try to add dictation it’s still locked me up in dictation mode until I have to keep doing the two finger double tap. It’s weird I’ve never had that issue with music except for once when I had the music app open and I was dictating a message. I figured that was my error.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 29, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Katrina Anderson  wrote:Since IOS 16.1, the 2-finger double tap to stop dictation frequently starts music.  I eventually can stop the music via Hey Siri, but it usually requires multiple attempts…possibly because Siri can’t hear me over the music.  I have reported the problem, and am hoping it will be soon fixed. Katrina From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van LantSent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:43 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: stopping dictation Hi,I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade.  Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button to the left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to stop dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, but it seems to me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, doing this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my phone. Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I’m still in dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to the app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a two-finger double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either that, or my latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.    For now, I’m trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap. Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.   -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR14MB47162A034046391F52037CB1AF129%40MW4PR14MB4716.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.



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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread Katrina Anderson
Since IOS 16.1, the 2-finger double tap to stop dictation frequently starts 
music.  I eventually can stop the music via Hey Siri, but it usually requires 
multiple attempts…possibly because Siri can’t hear me over the music.  I have 
reported the problem, and am hoping it will be soon fixed.
 
Katrina
 
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Lant
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: stopping dictation
 
Hi,
I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade. 
 Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button to the 
left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to stop 
dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, but it seems to 
me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, doing 
this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my phone. 
Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I’m still in 
dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to the 
app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a two-finger 
double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either that, or my 
latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.For now, I’m 
trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap.
 
Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.
 
 
 
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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread davycuppens
I can confirm this tramendous bug.

 

Please do all write to Apple Accessibility to report over and over and over 
again! Because even in the running beta cycle no VO bugs have been addressed.

So write and write again!

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens R Van Lant
Verzonden: dinsdag 29 november 2022 21:43
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: stopping dictation

 

Hi,

I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade. 
 Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button to the 
left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to stop 
dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, but it seems to 
me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, doing 
this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my phone. 
Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I’m still in 
dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to the 
app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a two-finger 
double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either that, or my 
latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.For now, I’m 
trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap.

 

Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.

 

 

 

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RE: stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread michv
Hi I have found this but not using the 2 finger dubble tap to stop dictation 
but it does start music going. I have found though that trying to stop 
dictation andthen having vo read back what you have dictated doesn’t always 
work but I think that this is a bug starting in ios 16 and it hasn’t been 
squoshed yet. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: November 29, 2022 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: stopping dictation

 

Hi,

I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade. 
 Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button to the 
left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to stop 
dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, but it seems to 
me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, doing 
this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my phone. 
Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I’m still in 
dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to the 
app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a two-finger 
double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either that, or my 
latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.For now, I’m 
trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap.

 

Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.

 

 

 

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stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread R Van Lant
Hi,
I've noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade. 
 Wondering if it's just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button to the 
left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to stop 
dictation, assuming that focus hasn't moved from that button, but it seems to 
me that I've been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, doing 
this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my phone. 
Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I'm still in 
dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to the 
app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a two-finger 
double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either that, or my 
latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.For now, I'm 
trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap.

Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.



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