RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can do so by the model number. I would have to Google this again myself, 
but you can do this just as easily, just search for "How to check if my iPhone 
is new or refurbished" or something like that. The model numbers start with a 
certain letters if it is a new or refurbished phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Sieghard, 

In my case, I was handed the original box from which I removed this device, 
said box having the devices ID numbers and such on it's label.  This is what 
prompted me to ask about the phone as I assumed it would be a refurbished 
model.  I was told that, had they any refurbished models, then I would have 
been given one; however, as it turned out, they did not so, hence my new phone.

Now, as to your statement, I must ask, how on earth did you determine that your 
replacement device was, in fact, a refurbished model?  

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

I have been told that my replacement phone was new when in fact it turned out 
to be refurbished. I am not saying this is the case with yours, but this has 
been my experience in the past. On the other hand it doesn't really matter 
because for all intends and purposes an Apple refurbished phone is as good as 
new anyways.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming 
Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the 
Latest iOS Version

Hello All, 

Well, I took my 8 Plus into the Genius Bar, today and they quicly determined 
that the Lightning port had some bad pins.  As a result, just 3 months before 
my Apple Care Plus warranty is to expire, I received a brand new iPhone 8 Plus. 
 They were quick to point out that this is a new phone and not a refurbish one. 
 So much the better, eh?  

To be honest, I was planning on getting a new phone this coming fall but, if I 
don't see a model about which I am particularly enthusiastic, I will probably 
stay with my 8 Plus.  We shall see.

I am so glad that I took the phone in and had it checked out.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Ap

RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[M. Taylor]

You are quite correct, Carolyn.

And, guess what?  Mine is a new phone!!  (big, big, big smile.)

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

The only one that I remember is M is for a new phone. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

I remember reading a post on one of those TechCrunch or The Verge or Lifehacker 
sites maybe two weeks ago that gave a cheat sheet on how to tell what type of 
iOS device you've got by the first letter the IMEI or serial number starts with.
I off hand don’t' recall exactly how it went, but I'm sure a quick internet 
search will bring it up.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Sieghard, 

In my case, I was handed the original box from which I removed this device, 
said box having the devices ID numbers and such on it's label.  This is what 
prompted me to ask about the phone as I assumed it would be a refurbished 
model.  I was told that, had they any refurbished models, then I would have 
been given one; however, as it turned out, they did not so, hence my new phone.

Now, as to your statement, I must ask, how on earth did you determine that your 
replacement device was, in fact, a refurbished model?  

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

I have been told that my replacement phone was new when in fact it turned out 
to be refurbished. I am not saying this is the case with yours, but this has 
been my experience in the past. On the other hand it doesn't really matter 
because for all intends and purposes an Apple refurbished phone is as good as 
new anyways.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming 
Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the 
Latest iOS Version

Hello All, 

Well, I took my 8 Plus into the Genius Bar, today and they quicly determined 
that the Lightning port had some bad pins.  As a result, just 3 months before 
my Apple Care Plus warranty is to expire, I received a brand new iPhone 8 Plus. 
 They were quick to point out that this is a new phone and not a refurbish one. 
 So much the better, eh?  

To be honest, I was planning on getting a new phone this coming fall but, if I 
don't see a model about which I am particularly enthusiastic, I will probably 
stay with my 8 Plus.  We shall see.

I am so glad that I took the phone in and had it checked out.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see

Re: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[alia robinson]

I thought it was going to explode or something. it took an hour to go from a 
small crack to one big enough for a pencil to go into. 

as for a backup I had an encrypted one on my computer, and everything was 
flawless, passwords and everything. I am pretty happy with how it turned out 
even though it took over a week to resolve, oh and they gave me a loner phone 
while mine was being fixed. I have n complaints at all.

On Aug 13, 2019, at 12:52 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Alia,

Wow!  That sounds awful.  

I'm so glad you finally got up and running with a new device.

As for me, I had about a 2-second scare when I placed my original SIM card in 
my replacement phone and was told that it could not be activated.  However, 
after about 2 seconds, it did, in fact activate and has been working as 
expected ever since.  

I'll tell you one thing, it is far better to make an encrypted backup of your 
phone via iTunes on a computer, rather than iCloud.  

Before I took my phone into Apple, I made both an iTunes and an iCloud backup.  
I did this in order to see what kind of differences would be the result when 
restored, although I already had a pretty good idea.  

Well, to make a long story even longer, I can tell you that only from my iTunes 
backup was I able to have apps, no longer available from the App Store be 
automatically reinstalled to my device.  

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RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I remember reading a post on one of those TechCrunch or The Verge or Lifehacker 
sites maybe two weeks ago that gave a cheat sheet on how to tell what type of 
iOS device you've got by the first letter the IMEI or serial number starts with.
I off hand don’t' recall exactly how it went, but I'm sure a quick internet 
search will bring it up.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Sieghard, 

In my case, I was handed the original box from which I removed this device, 
said box having the devices ID numbers and such on it's label.  This is what 
prompted me to ask about the phone as I assumed it would be a refurbished 
model.  I was told that, had they any refurbished models, then I would have 
been given one; however, as it turned out, they did not so, hence my new phone.

Now, as to your statement, I must ask, how on earth did you determine that your 
replacement device was, in fact, a refurbished model?  

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

I have been told that my replacement phone was new when in fact it turned out 
to be refurbished. I am not saying this is the case with yours, but this has 
been my experience in the past. On the other hand it doesn't really matter 
because for all intends and purposes an Apple refurbished phone is as good as 
new anyways.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming 
Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the 
Latest iOS Version

Hello All, 

Well, I took my 8 Plus into the Genius Bar, today and they quicly determined 
that the Lightning port had some bad pins.  As a result, just 3 months before 
my Apple Care Plus warranty is to expire, I received a brand new iPhone 8 Plus. 
 They were quick to point out that this is a new phone and not a refurbish one. 
 So much the better, eh?  

To be honest, I was planning on getting a new phone this coming fall but, if I 
don't see a model about which I am particularly enthusiastic, I will probably 
stay with my 8 Plus.  We shall see.

I am so glad that I took the phone in and had it checked out.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the App

Re: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[alia robinson]

my battery swelled. you should have seen my phone gap grow. it was kind of 
frightening! anyway when I took it in I found out it had a recall on the 
processor so it was all done free, and when I got it back we or they or my cell 
provider couldn’t get a simcard to work in it at all, so I ended up with a 
replacement phone. who knows what I have now! what an ordeal. 

Alia 


On Aug 13, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I have been told that my replacement phone was new when in fact it turned out 
to be refurbished. I am not saying this is the case with yours, but this has 
been my experience in the past. On the other hand it doesn't really matter 
because for all intends and purposes an Apple refurbished phone is as good as 
new anyways.

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RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Alan Lemly]

Mark,

That's great. I got a brand new iPhone 5 due to a bad headphone jack a couple 
of weeks before my AppleCare was about to lapse in 2015 and have bought 
AppleCare with every new iPhone purchase since. Enjoy your new IPhone 8 Plus 
and I expect it will be preferable over the new iPhones released this September.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 11:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming 
Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the 
Latest iOS Version

Hello All, 

Well, I took my 8 Plus into the Genius Bar, today and they quicly determined 
that the Lightning port had some bad pins.  As a result, just 3 months before 
my Apple Care Plus warranty is to expire, I received a brand new iPhone 8 Plus. 
 They were quick to point out that this is a new phone and not a refurbish one. 
 So much the better, eh?  

To be honest, I was planning on getting a new phone this coming fall but, if I 
don't see a model about which I am particularly enthusiastic, I will probably 
stay with my 8 Plus.  We shall see.

I am so glad that I took the phone in and had it checked out.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for 
now.  

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have been told that my replacement phone was new when in fact it turned out 
to be refurbished. I am not saying this is the case with yours, but this has 
been my experience in the past. On the other hand it doesn't really matter 
because for all intends and purposes an Apple refurbished phone is as good as 
new anyways.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming 
Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the 
Latest iOS Version

Hello All, 

Well, I took my 8 Plus into the Genius Bar, today and they quicly determined 
that the Lightning port had some bad pins.  As a result, just 3 months before 
my Apple Care Plus warranty is to expire, I received a brand new iPhone 8 Plus. 
 They were quick to point out that this is a new phone and not a refurbish one. 
 So much the better, eh?  

To be honest, I was planning on getting a new phone this coming fall but, if I 
don't see a model about which I am particularly enthusiastic, I will probably 
stay with my 8 Plus.  We shall see.

I am so glad that I took the phone in and had it checked out.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for 
now.  

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[M. Taylor]

Alia,

Wow!  That sounds awful.  

I'm so glad you finally got up and running with a new device.

As for me, I had about a 2-second scare when I placed my original SIM card in 
my replacement phone and was told that it could not be activated.  However, 
after about 2 seconds, it did, in fact activate and has been working as 
expected ever since.  

I'll tell you one thing, it is far better to make an encrypted backup of your 
phone via iTunes on a computer, rather than iCloud.  

Before I took my phone into Apple, I made both an iTunes and an iCloud backup.  
I did this in order to see what kind of differences would be the result when 
restored, although I already had a pretty good idea.  

Well, to make a long story even longer, I can tell you that only from my iTunes 
backup was I able to have apps, no longer available from the App Store be 
automatically reinstalled to my device.  

Mark
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
alia robinson
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

my battery swelled. you should have seen my phone gap grow. it was kind of 
frightening! anyway when I took it in I found out it had a recall on the 
processor so it was all done free, and when I got it back we or they or my cell 
provider couldn’t get a simcard to work in it at all, so I ended up with a 
replacement phone. who knows what I have now! what an ordeal. 

Alia 


On Aug 13, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I have been told that my replacement phone was new when in fact it turned out 
to be refurbished. I am not saying this is the case with yours, but this has 
been my experience in the past. On the other hand it doesn't really matter 
because for all intends and purposes an Apple refurbished phone is as good as 
new anyways.

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RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sieghard, 

In my case, I was handed the original box from which I removed this device, 
said box having the devices ID numbers and such on it's label.  This is what 
prompted me to ask about the phone as I assumed it would be a refurbished 
model.  I was told that, had they any refurbished models, then I would have 
been given one; however, as it turned out, they did not so, hence my new phone.

Now, as to your statement, I must ask, how on earth did you determine that your 
replacement device was, in fact, a refurbished model?  

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

I have been told that my replacement phone was new when in fact it turned out 
to be refurbished. I am not saying this is the case with yours, but this has 
been my experience in the past. On the other hand it doesn't really matter 
because for all intends and purposes an Apple refurbished phone is as good as 
new anyways.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming 
Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the 
Latest iOS Version

Hello All, 

Well, I took my 8 Plus into the Genius Bar, today and they quicly determined 
that the Lightning port had some bad pins.  As a result, just 3 months before 
my Apple Care Plus warranty is to expire, I received a brand new iPhone 8 Plus. 
 They were quick to point out that this is a new phone and not a refurbish one. 
 So much the better, eh?  

To be honest, I was planning on getting a new phone this coming fall but, if I 
don't see a model about which I am particularly enthusiastic, I will probably 
stay with my 8 Plus.  We shall see.

I am so glad that I took the phone in and had it checked out.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for 
now.  

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Carolyn Arnold]

The only one that I remember is M is for a new phone. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

I remember reading a post on one of those TechCrunch or The Verge or Lifehacker 
sites maybe two weeks ago that gave a cheat sheet on how to tell what type of 
iOS device you've got by the first letter the IMEI or serial number starts with.
I off hand don’t' recall exactly how it went, but I'm sure a quick internet 
search will bring it up.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Sieghard, 

In my case, I was handed the original box from which I removed this device, 
said box having the devices ID numbers and such on it's label.  This is what 
prompted me to ask about the phone as I assumed it would be a refurbished 
model.  I was told that, had they any refurbished models, then I would have 
been given one; however, as it turned out, they did not so, hence my new phone.

Now, as to your statement, I must ask, how on earth did you determine that your 
replacement device was, in fact, a refurbished model?  

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

I have been told that my replacement phone was new when in fact it turned out 
to be refurbished. I am not saying this is the case with yours, but this has 
been my experience in the past. On the other hand it doesn't really matter 
because for all intends and purposes an Apple refurbished phone is as good as 
new anyways.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming 
Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the 
Latest iOS Version

Hello All, 

Well, I took my 8 Plus into the Genius Bar, today and they quicly determined 
that the Lightning port had some bad pins.  As a result, just 3 months before 
my Apple Care Plus warranty is to expire, I received a brand new iPhone 8 Plus. 
 They were quick to point out that this is a new phone and not a refurbish one. 
 So much the better, eh?  

To be honest, I was planning on getting a new phone this coming fall but, if I 
don't see a model about which I am particularly enthusiastic, I will probably 
stay with my 8 Plus.  We shall see.

I am so glad that I took the phone in and had it checked out.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even afte

Re: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Anthony Vece]

Nice going Mark.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Aug 13, 2019, at 12:16 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> Well, I took my 8 Plus into the Genius Bar, today and they quicly determined 
> that the Lightning port had some bad pins.  As a result, just 3 months before 
> my Apple Care Plus warranty is to expire, I received a brand new iPhone 8 
> Plus.  They were quick to point out that this is a new phone and not a 
> refurbish one.  So much the better, eh?  
> 
> To be honest, I was planning on getting a new phone this coming fall but, if 
> I don't see a model about which I am particularly enthusiastic, I will 
> probably stay with my 8 Plus.  We shall see.
> 
> I am so glad that I took the phone in and had it checked out.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
> EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version
> 
> Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,
> 
> For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
> version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
> some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
> Plus, via the Lightning port.
> 
> I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
> to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
> thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of 
> EarPods on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem 
> on any of my other devices.  
> 
> And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.
> 
> Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
> warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
> replies I receive.  
> 
> Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
> any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 
> series was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately 
> identified and reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch 
> until about 1 year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later 
> version of iOS.  They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after 
> hundreds and hundreds of reports came in from all across the world.  Now the 
> glitch was not devastating and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the 
> phone to the extent that one would return it to the store but the glitch 
> existed and Apple denied its existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to 
> the issue about 9 months in but only to beta testers.
> 
> Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
> device in the Apple orchard.
> 
> My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  
> 
> Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for 
> now.  
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

Well, I took my 8 Plus into the Genius Bar, today and they quicly determined 
that the Lightning port had some bad pins.  As a result, just 3 months before 
my Apple Care Plus warranty is to expire, I received a brand new iPhone 8 Plus. 
 They were quick to point out that this is a new phone and not a refurbish one. 
 So much the better, eh?  

To be honest, I was planning on getting a new phone this coming fall but, if I 
don't see a model about which I am particularly enthusiastic, I will probably 
stay with my 8 Plus.  We shall see.

I am so glad that I took the phone in and had it checked out.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for 
now.  

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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Re: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

['Maria Reyes' via VIPhone]

Have you tried other headphones with your phone? That might help to see if your 
port is damaged. Also if you are using the lightning EarPods, your charger 
wouldn’t work if the port was damaged.

> On Aug 9, 2019, at 12:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I couldn't have said it better, Alan, and also no issues here on my iPhone 8 
> although I am on the iOS 13 Beta now for a short time. I had no issues with 
> wired Earpods, again, I am like you and use them most of the time and I went 
> through the entire public beta cycle of iOS 12.4 with no problems.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 9:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the 
> Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS 
> Version
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I use wired Apple Earpods almost exclusively with my iPhone 8 running iOS 
> 12.4 and have no problems with them. You don't really describe the nature of 
> your problem and I would think that would be helpful in trying to ferret out 
> the issue.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
> EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version
> 
> Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,
> 
> For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
> version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
> some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
> Plus, via the Lightning port.
> 
> I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
> to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
> thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of 
> EarPods on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem 
> on any of my other devices.  
> 
> And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.
> 
> Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
> warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
> replies I receive.  
> 
> Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
> any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 
> series was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately 
> identified and reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch 
> until about 1 year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later 
> version of iOS.  They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after 
> hundreds and hundreds of reports came in from all across the world.  Now the 
> glitch was not devastating and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the 
> phone to the extent that one would return it to the store but the glitch 
> existed and Apple denied its existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to 
> the issue about 9 months in but only to beta testers.
> 
> Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
> device in the Apple orchard.
> 
> My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  
> 
> Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for 
> now.  
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
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RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I couldn't have said it better, Alan, and also no issues here on my iPhone 8 
although I am on the iOS 13 Beta now for a short time. I had no issues with 
wired Earpods, again, I am like you and use them most of the time and I went 
through the entire public beta cycle of iOS 12.4 with no problems.


-Original Message-
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Lemly
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 9:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the 
Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS 
Version

Mark,

I use wired Apple Earpods almost exclusively with my iPhone 8 running iOS 12.4 
and have no problems with them. You don't really describe the nature of your 
problem and I would think that would be helpful in trying to ferret out the 
issue.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for 
now.  

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Alan Lemly]

Mark,

I use wired Apple Earpods almost exclusively with my iPhone 8 running iOS 12.4 
and have no problems with them. You don't really describe the nature of your 
problem and I would think that would be helpful in trying to ferret out the 
issue.

Alan Lemly

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for 
now.  

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[M. Taylor]

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the
latest version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming
audio/ or, some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple
Earpods on my 8 Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my
inability to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And,
"yes," I have thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several
different sets of EarPods on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods
have this problem on any of my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8
series was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately
identified and reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up
glitch until about 1 year later when they finally fixed the problem with a
later version of iOS.  They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after
hundreds and hundreds of reports came in from all across the world.  Now the
glitch was not devastating and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the
phone to the extent that one would return it to the store but the glitch
existed and Apple denied its existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to
the issue about 9 months in but only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for
now.  

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Re: Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version

[bpabbott9]

Hello Sieghard. I was mistaken about the buttons not  being labeled.

I tried the program again tonight and had to reinstate the internal station 
module as we have a new router. I also tried once again to connect the outdoor 
module. It  is definitely not working so I will have to contact  Netatmo 
directly about how to replace the outdoorbmodule. Sent from Bäry Abbott's  
iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 1:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Barry,
>  
> I actually can’t think of any unlabeled buttons in the last version, could 
> you give some examples I could pass along?
>  
> No, not sure about the warranty. As a retailer myself who sells a lot of 
> higher end product which comes with various warranties, I must of course say 
> that if it didn’t survive the winter why you didn’t try to deal with this as 
> soon as you noticed it wasn’t working. I do also think that is says in the 
> instructions the outdoor module should of course be outside but that it 
> should be kept out of direct sunlight (that can skew the temperature reading) 
> and out of the rain and, by extension I would think it should also be kept 
> out of the snow.
> I just brought my rain gauge inside today since while it may still rain a bit 
> in the next couple of weeks and occasionally throughout other winter months, 
> for the most part it will snow from now until the end of March and it will 
> often be below freezing and I just can’t see how it would be good for the 
> rain gauge if it had mosture inside which would then freeze, thaw, freeze 
> again and so on.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Barry Abbott
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 8:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version
>  
> I noticed  in the last update of Netatmo that some of the buttons were not 
> labelled.
>  
> Incidentally, do you know what the warranty is? My outdoor module did not 
> withstand the riggers of last winter as it became buried in snow. Despite 
> many attempts after  battery replacement I have not been able to get it 
> working. I made sure that the batteries were inserted correctly and I tested 
> them with a battery tester. .
>  
> When I go to Amazon I see additional indoor modules but no outdoor module. I 
> am going to have to email Netatmo with my serial number to determine if it is 
> still under warranty. It was a Christmas present. 
>  
> Barry. 
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>  
> Hello,
>  
> This morning I had an update to the Netatmo app in my list of updates.
> For those who own a Netatmo Weather Station I recommend you hold off updating 
> the app for now. When I read the description “The app has been given a new 
> look” I was a bit worried and in fact there seems to be a bit of a step back 
> since currently Voiceover won’t read minimum and maximum temperatures any 
> more. It does read everything else and it’s laid out a bit differently, but 
> since I was quite involved with the Netatmo head developer in initially 
> making the app accessible, I want to contact him and bring up some of these 
> issues. Hopefully their commitment to accessibility is still there and they 
> will fix these items since I assume it’s not that big of a deal.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello,

 

This morning I had an update to the Netatmo app in my list of updates.

For those who own a Netatmo Weather Station I recommend you hold off
updating the app for now. When I read the description "The app has been
given a new look" I was a bit worried and in fact there seems to be a bit of
a step back since currently Voiceover won't read minimum and maximum
temperatures any more. It does read everything else and it's laid out a bit
differently, but since I was quite involved with the Netatmo head developer
in initially making the app accessible, I want to contact him and bring up
some of these issues. Hopefully their commitment to accessibility is still
there and they will fix these items since I assume it's not that big of a
deal.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version

[Barry Abbott]

I noticed  in the last update of Netatmo that some of the buttons were not 
labelled.

Incidentally, do you know what the warranty is? My outdoor module did not 
withstand the riggers of last winter as it became buried in snow. Despite many 
attempts after  battery replacement I have not been able to get it working. I 
made sure that the batteries were inserted correctly and I tested them with a 
battery tester. .

When I go to Amazon I see additional indoor modules but no outdoor module. I am 
going to have to email Netatmo with my serial number to determine if it is 
still under warranty. It was a Christmas present. 

Barry. 
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> This morning I had an update to the Netatmo app in my list of updates.
> For those who own a Netatmo Weather Station I recommend you hold off updating 
> the app for now. When I read the description “The app has been given a new 
> look” I was a bit worried and in fact there seems to be a bit of a step back 
> since currently Voiceover won’t read minimum and maximum temperatures any 
> more. It does read everything else and it’s laid out a bit differently, but 
> since I was quite involved with the Netatmo head developer in initially 
> making the app accessible, I want to contact him and bring up some of these 
> issues. Hopefully their commitment to accessibility is still there and they 
> will fix these items since I assume it’s not that big of a deal.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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RE: Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Barry,

 

I actually can’t think of any unlabeled buttons in the last version, could you 
give some examples I could pass along?

 

No, not sure about the warranty. As a retailer myself who sells a lot of higher 
end product which comes with various warranties, I must of course say that if 
it didn’t survive the winter why you didn’t try to deal with this as soon as 
you noticed it wasn’t working. I do also think that is says in the instructions 
the outdoor module should of course be outside but that it should be kept out 
of direct sunlight (that can skew the temperature reading) and out of the rain 
and, by extension I would think it should also be kept out of the snow.

I just brought my rain gauge inside today since while it may still rain a bit 
in the next couple of weeks and occasionally throughout other winter months, 
for the most part it will snow from now until the end of March and it will 
often be below freezing and I just can’t see how it would be good for the rain 
gauge if it had mosture inside which would then freeze, thaw, freeze again and 
so on.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barry Abbott
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version

 

I noticed  in the last update of Netatmo that some of the buttons were not 
labelled.

 

Incidentally, do you know what the warranty is? My outdoor module did not 
withstand the riggers of last winter as it became buried in snow. Despite many 
attempts after  battery replacement I have not been able to get it working. I 
made sure that the batteries were inserted correctly and I tested them with a 
battery tester. .

 

When I go to Amazon I see additional indoor modules but no outdoor module. I am 
going to have to email Netatmo with my serial number to determine if it is 
still under warranty. It was a Christmas present. 

 

Barry. 

On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

This morning I had an update to the Netatmo app in my list of updates.

For those who own a Netatmo Weather Station I recommend you hold off updating 
the app for now. When I read the description “The app has been given a new 
look” I was a bit worried and in fact there seems to be a bit of a step back 
since currently Voiceover won’t read minimum and maximum temperatures any more. 
It does read everything else and it’s laid out a bit differently, but since I 
was quite involved with the Netatmo head developer in initially making the app 
accessible, I want to contact him and bring up some of these issues. Hopefully 
their commitment to accessibility is still there and they will fix these items 
since I assume it’s not that big of a deal.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Updating itunes to latest version

[Wendy Alling]

Hi all,
I had problems updating itunes to the latest version and had to uninstall
and then reinstall itunes to get it fixed.  Now with the latest version
installed, I can't get my songs sorted properly.  I want them sorted
alphabetically and I don't see that option.  Can someone refresh my memory
on how to sort songs alphabetically?  Can you still do this in the latest
version of itunes for windows?
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Re: Updating itunes to latest version

[Jennie Facer]

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 On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Wendy Alling wendall...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I had problems updating itunes to the latest version and had to uninstall
 and then reinstall itunes to get it fixed.  Now with the latest version
 installed, I can't get my songs sorted properly.  I want them sorted
 alphabetically and I don't see that option.  Can someone refresh my memory
 on how to sort songs alphabetically?  Can you still do this in the latest
 version of itunes for windows?
 Wendy
 
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have you tried a control+J? You should be able to tab and find a sort by combo 
box.

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updating to the latest IS

[Molly Marcinick]

hi all
i havent updated to IS 5 when i do will it  update my apps?
there are apps i do not want to update


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Re: updating to the latest IS

[chris hallsworth]

No it won't you will have to get the updates yourself.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 08/05/2012 21:40, Molly Marcinick wrote:

hi all
i havent updated to IS 5 when i do will it  update my apps?
there are apps i do not want to update


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