Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
 has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of
 their
 most popular phones. It was a big deal when ATT lost their
 exclusivity
 to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as
 I
 suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like
 Verizon's
 web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone
 from
 Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for
 some reason.

 On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:
 There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are
 not
 available in certain areas.

 Dianne

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 I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've
 heard
 other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.
 Very
 curious!
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe

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 Hi All, I thought verizon


 supported the IPhone.  However, locally I am hearing not.  Does
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 know

 if verizon


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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Verizonmost definitely carries the iPhone. Go on line, via Google or
just the Verizon web site, if you need to convince yourself or anyone else.

On 03/07/12 07:52, dan thompson wrote:
 Hi All, I thought verizon
 
 
 supported the IPhone.  However, locally I am hearing not.  Does anyone
 know if verizon
 
 
 does indeed support the IPhone?


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RE: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread paul and paula jordan
I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've heard
other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.  Very
curious!
God bless!
Paula and Babe

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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread JoJo and Clinton

I live in Michigan and have an IPhone through Verizon.

JoJo

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RE: Verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Jennie Facer
Yes I have a Verizon iPhone.

Jenn

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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread dan thompson

Thanks for your reply, God bless.
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I live in Michigan and have an IPhone through Verizon.

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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread dan thompson

Thanks a bunch Rebica, God bless and have a great week.
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Hi I have my i phone through verizon and im in Pennsylvania.  So they 
definitely support it.

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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread dan thompson

Thanks a bunch for getting back.  God bless to you and have a great week.
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From: paul and paula jordan pau...@roadrunner.com

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I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've heard
other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.  Very
curious!
God bless!
Paula and Babe

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RE: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Jordan Gallacher
They do.  My dad just got his about a month ago.
Jordan

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Re: Verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Anthony Vece
I also have a Verizon iPhone.
I have had one since Verizon started selling the iPhone IV early in 2011.

I haven't had any problems.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jennie Facer pup...@me.com wrote:

 Yes I have a Verizon iPhone.

 Jenn

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RE: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Dianne B. Phelps
I may be incorrect about this, but it seems to me that Verizon was one of
the carrier options listed on the Apple web site. Before I purchased my
iPhone, I checked a lot of different things and did quite a bit of reading.
You might even want to check the Verizon site which I did not do because I
was already on ATT.

Dianne

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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
True, but I find it hard to believe that Verizon would offer the iPhone
in some locations but not others. Technically, there's no reason it
won't work wherever Verizon has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of their
most popular phones. It was a big deal when ATT lost their exclusivity
to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as I
suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like Verizon's
web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone from
Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for
some reason.

On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:
 There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are not
 available in certain areas.
 
 Dianne
 
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 Of paul and paula jordan
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:08 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: verizon and IPhone
 
 I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've heard
 other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.  Very
 curious!
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe
 
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 Of dan thompson
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 8:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: verizon and IPhone
 
 Hi All, I thought verizon
 
 
  supported the IPhone.  However, locally I am hearing not.  Does anyone know
 
 if verizon
 
 
  does indeed support the IPhone? 
 
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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread James Mannion
Verizon definitely has the IPhone still, but the only thing that makes
any sense to me about this confusion is that they do make it a bit
obvious at times they don't want to offer the IPhone these days. They
try very hard at times to push people over to Android instead. I have
heard two reasons for that. One of them Verizon actually admitted to
when I was in the store recently. The one they will tell you more or
less is that they very much want people on 4G and not 3G. They can
manage many more customers on their 4G network at less cost to them.
The other reason I have heard elsewhere is that carriers are becoming
discontent with the fact they can't have the kind of control with
putting bloteware at all on the IPhone like they obviously can with
Android. Apple has a heavy hand in telling the carriers what they will
and will not do with the IPhone. I feel absolutely no sympathy for the
carriers on that one.

On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 True, but I find it hard to believe that Verizon would offer the iPhone
 in some locations but not others. Technically, there's no reason it
 won't work wherever Verizon has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of their
 most popular phones. It was a big deal when ATT lost their exclusivity
 to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as I
 suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like Verizon's
 web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone from
 Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for
 some reason.

 On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:
 There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are not
 available in certain areas.

 Dianne

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 Subject: RE: verizon and IPhone

 I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've heard
 other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.  Very
 curious!
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe

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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Anthony Vece
If they made a droid that would do everything the iPhone does, I would
think about.
But, not all the Droids can be updated.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

On Jul 3, 2012, at 6:16 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:

 Verizon definitely has the IPhone still, but the only thing that makes
 any sense to me about this confusion is that they do make it a bit
 obvious at times they don't want to offer the IPhone these days. They
 try very hard at times to push people over to Android instead. I have
 heard two reasons for that. One of them Verizon actually admitted to
 when I was in the store recently. The one they will tell you more or
 less is that they very much want people on 4G and not 3G. They can
 manage many more customers on their 4G network at less cost to them.
 The other reason I have heard elsewhere is that carriers are becoming
 discontent with the fact they can't have the kind of control with
 putting bloteware at all on the IPhone like they obviously can with
 Android. Apple has a heavy hand in telling the carriers what they will
 and will not do with the IPhone. I feel absolutely no sympathy for the
 carriers on that one.

 On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 True, but I find it hard to believe that Verizon would offer the iPhone
 in some locations but not others. Technically, there's no reason it
 won't work wherever Verizon has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of their
 most popular phones. It was a big deal when ATT lost their exclusivity
 to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as I
 suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like Verizon's
 web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone from
 Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for
 some reason.

 On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:
 There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are not
 available in certain areas.

 Dianne

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 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:08 AM
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 Subject: RE: verizon and IPhone

 I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've heard
 other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.  Very
 curious!
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe

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 Hi All, I thought verizon


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 if verizon


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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Ah, the 4G versus 3G point makes a lot of sense to me. I'm still
surprised that Verizon would discourage someone from buying an iPhone if
they're asking for it though, but I can definitely see a Verizon
representative saying something like You don't want an iPhone. you want
one of our 4G Androind phones.

I dislike the changes some vendors/carriers make to Android that get in
the way of accessibility, but in general I'm more open to Android's
openness. Just like with PC's, and other products like mattresses, I can
understand where a distributor would want to differentiate their product
from all of the other products out there from the same manufacturer. Of
course, this leads to fragmentation and bloatware, but this closed
approach is also what leads to the popularity of jail breaking. IMHO,
Apple is going to have to meet with the carriers in the middle at some
point, and the Android ecosystem is going to have to deal with the
fragmentation issue. I've even heard that Samsung is going with more of
a closed model and won't be letting the carriers do as much branding as
they've been allowed to in the past. Of course, this doesn't keep
Samsung from doing what they want to Android.

On 03/07/12 17:16, James Mannion wrote:
 Verizon definitely has the IPhone still, but the only thing that makes
 any sense to me about this confusion is that they do make it a bit
 obvious at times they don't want to offer the IPhone these days. They
 try very hard at times to push people over to Android instead. I have
 heard two reasons for that. One of them Verizon actually admitted to
 when I was in the store recently. The one they will tell you more or
 less is that they very much want people on 4G and not 3G. They can
 manage many more customers on their 4G network at less cost to them.
 The other reason I have heard elsewhere is that carriers are becoming
 discontent with the fact they can't have the kind of control with
 putting bloteware at all on the IPhone like they obviously can with
 Android. Apple has a heavy hand in telling the carriers what they will
 and will not do with the IPhone. I feel absolutely no sympathy for the
 carriers on that one.
 
 On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 True, but I find it hard to believe that Verizon would offer the iPhone
 in some locations but not others. Technically, there's no reason it
 won't work wherever Verizon has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of their
 most popular phones. It was a big deal when ATT lost their exclusivity
 to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as I
 suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like Verizon's
 web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone from
 Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for
 some reason.

 On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:
 There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are not
 available in certain areas.

 Dianne

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 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:08 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: verizon and IPhone

 I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've heard
 other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.  Very
 curious!
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe

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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Other than not all phones getting updates to Android, what does the
iPhone do that the Android doesn't do? I'm sure there's a bunch of
things out there, but what comes to mind are the things you can do with
an Android that you can't do with an iPhone.

BTW, when you say Droid, I assume you mean Android phones in general and
not just Motorola's line of Android phones.

On 03/07/12 17:28, Anthony Vece wrote:
 If they made a droid that would do everything the iPhone does, I would
 think about.
 But, not all the Droids can be updated.
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 6:16 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Verizon definitely has the IPhone still, but the only thing that makes
 any sense to me about this confusion is that they do make it a bit
 obvious at times they don't want to offer the IPhone these days. They
 try very hard at times to push people over to Android instead. I have
 heard two reasons for that. One of them Verizon actually admitted to
 when I was in the store recently. The one they will tell you more or
 less is that they very much want people on 4G and not 3G. They can
 manage many more customers on their 4G network at less cost to them.
 The other reason I have heard elsewhere is that carriers are becoming
 discontent with the fact they can't have the kind of control with
 putting bloteware at all on the IPhone like they obviously can with
 Android. Apple has a heavy hand in telling the carriers what they will
 and will not do with the IPhone. I feel absolutely no sympathy for the
 carriers on that one.

 On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 True, but I find it hard to believe that Verizon would offer the iPhone
 in some locations but not others. Technically, there's no reason it
 won't work wherever Verizon has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of their
 most popular phones. It was a big deal when ATT lost their exclusivity
 to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as I
 suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like Verizon's
 web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone from
 Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for
 some reason.

 On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:
 There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are not
 available in certain areas.

 Dianne

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:08 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: verizon and IPhone

 I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've heard
 other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.  Very
 curious!
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe

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 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 8:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: verizon and IPhone

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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread James Mannion
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the jailbreak solution and
it is a lot better than the Android fragmentation and that
differentiation being forced upon you in the way they want it, not the
way you might want it. With jailbreaking the differentiation the
customizations are your choice from the increasing options available.
The only problem with jailbreaking is that Apple trys not to allow it
to happen and therefore it is always the result of a successful hack.
It's not like Apple has become poor because of jailbreaking. Honestly
I think they should stop taking any issue with it. I think they should
leave teh door open to it to be done as it is currently. Even if they
don't admit to it, they benefit from the jailbreak community and they
do use those benefits. Most of their user base will never jailbreak.
They don't have the technical knowledge and they don't care about
anything it would do for them. I'm saying that is true for most of
their user base assuming the majority of their user base simply use
the interface they are presented with and what happens behind the
sceens is entirely magical to them. The choice is there and nobody has
anyone else's choice of customizations forced upon them. Finally, if
you compare the jailbroken IOS world to Android, I think the Android
world no longer has anything to hold over IOS at that point.

On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah, the 4G versus 3G point makes a lot of sense to me. I'm still
 surprised that Verizon would discourage someone from buying an iPhone if
 they're asking for it though, but I can definitely see a Verizon
 representative saying something like You don't want an iPhone. you want
 one of our 4G Androind phones.

 I dislike the changes some vendors/carriers make to Android that get in
 the way of accessibility, but in general I'm more open to Android's
 openness. Just like with PC's, and other products like mattresses, I can
 understand where a distributor would want to differentiate their product
 from all of the other products out there from the same manufacturer. Of
 course, this leads to fragmentation and bloatware, but this closed
 approach is also what leads to the popularity of jail breaking. IMHO,
 Apple is going to have to meet with the carriers in the middle at some
 point, and the Android ecosystem is going to have to deal with the
 fragmentation issue. I've even heard that Samsung is going with more of
 a closed model and won't be letting the carriers do as much branding as
 they've been allowed to in the past. Of course, this doesn't keep
 Samsung from doing what they want to Android.

 On 03/07/12 17:16, James Mannion wrote:
 Verizon definitely has the IPhone still, but the only thing that makes
 any sense to me about this confusion is that they do make it a bit
 obvious at times they don't want to offer the IPhone these days. They
 try very hard at times to push people over to Android instead. I have
 heard two reasons for that. One of them Verizon actually admitted to
 when I was in the store recently. The one they will tell you more or
 less is that they very much want people on 4G and not 3G. They can
 manage many more customers on their 4G network at less cost to them.
 The other reason I have heard elsewhere is that carriers are becoming
 discontent with the fact they can't have the kind of control with
 putting bloteware at all on the IPhone like they obviously can with
 Android. Apple has a heavy hand in telling the carriers what they will
 and will not do with the IPhone. I feel absolutely no sympathy for the
 carriers on that one.

 On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 True, but I find it hard to believe that Verizon would offer the iPhone
 in some locations but not others. Technically, there's no reason it
 won't work wherever Verizon has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of their
 most popular phones. It was a big deal when ATT lost their exclusivity
 to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as I
 suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like Verizon's
 web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone from
 Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for
 some reason.

 On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:
 There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are not
 available in certain areas.

 Dianne

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of paul and paula jordan
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:08 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: verizon and IPhone

 I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've
 heard
 other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.  Very
 curious!
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of dan thompson
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 8:53

Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Anthony Vece
The Droids are just not as accessible as the iPhone.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

On Jul 3, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Other than not all phones getting updates to Android, what does the
 iPhone do that the Android doesn't do? I'm sure there's a bunch of
 things out there, but what comes to mind are the things you can do with
 an Android that you can't do with an iPhone.

 BTW, when you say Droid, I assume you mean Android phones in general and
 not just Motorola's line of Android phones.

 On 03/07/12 17:28, Anthony Vece wrote:
 If they made a droid that would do everything the iPhone does, I would
 think about.
 But, not all the Droids can be updated.


 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 6:16 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:

 Verizon definitely has the IPhone still, but the only thing that makes
 any sense to me about this confusion is that they do make it a bit
 obvious at times they don't want to offer the IPhone these days. They
 try very hard at times to push people over to Android instead. I have
 heard two reasons for that. One of them Verizon actually admitted to
 when I was in the store recently. The one they will tell you more or
 less is that they very much want people on 4G and not 3G. They can
 manage many more customers on their 4G network at less cost to them.
 The other reason I have heard elsewhere is that carriers are becoming
 discontent with the fact they can't have the kind of control with
 putting bloteware at all on the IPhone like they obviously can with
 Android. Apple has a heavy hand in telling the carriers what they will
 and will not do with the IPhone. I feel absolutely no sympathy for the
 carriers on that one.

 On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 True, but I find it hard to believe that Verizon would offer the iPhone
 in some locations but not others. Technically, there's no reason it
 won't work wherever Verizon has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of their
 most popular phones. It was a big deal when ATT lost their exclusivity
 to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as I
 suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like Verizon's
 web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone from
 Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for
 some reason.

 On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:
 There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are not
 available in certain areas.

 Dianne

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of paul and paula jordan
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:08 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: verizon and IPhone

 I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've heard
 other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.  Very
 curious!
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of dan thompson
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 8:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: verizon and IPhone

 Hi All, I thought verizon


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Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread James Mannion
That's for sure. The droid accessibility is just not near as complete.
It will not let you examine anything by word or by character unless
you are in an edit field and are using a keyboard and only certain
ones of the onscreen keyboards from what I understand. It will not let
you navigate by items. This is all in explore by touch which you can't
even get a new enough version of Android on most phones yet to even
have. Explore by touch limits you to moving your finger around the
screen to find things and if you miss it, oh well. No other way to
navigate to it. You are also limited to activating things by lifting
your finger after you find it and then a single tap on what you want
to activate. Sure the single tap could be convenient, but you have to
be exactly on what it is you want to activate. So if it's really
small, you better be good at that. I have heard the fans go on and on
about how much better this is because it is like the sighted world
does it. Sure, but their eyes can direct their finger with little
error possibility. I wish the droid world were equally as accessible.
The fans seem to see it through rose colored glasses and boy they love
to bash and put down the IPhone. I think they find the IPhone a threat
to their world over there or something. Listen to That Android Show
and count the number of negative comment opportunities they create and
jump on those that they otherwise find. That is the one thing that
particularly ticks me off about that podcast. They are so, so, so
outwardly expressively anti-IPhone. Don't bother askingthose fans for
their answer to the droid accessibility shortcomings and therefore
concerns. If they are not in favor of the comment, my experience is
they ignore it.

Jim


On 7/3/12, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Droids are just not as accessible as the iPhone.


 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Other than not all phones getting updates to Android, what does the
 iPhone do that the Android doesn't do? I'm sure there's a bunch of
 things out there, but what comes to mind are the things you can do with
 an Android that you can't do with an iPhone.

 BTW, when you say Droid, I assume you mean Android phones in general and
 not just Motorola's line of Android phones.

 On 03/07/12 17:28, Anthony Vece wrote:
 If they made a droid that would do everything the iPhone does, I would
 think about.
 But, not all the Droids can be updated.


 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 6:16 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:

 Verizon definitely has the IPhone still, but the only thing that makes
 any sense to me about this confusion is that they do make it a bit
 obvious at times they don't want to offer the IPhone these days. They
 try very hard at times to push people over to Android instead. I have
 heard two reasons for that. One of them Verizon actually admitted to
 when I was in the store recently. The one they will tell you more or
 less is that they very much want people on 4G and not 3G. They can
 manage many more customers on their 4G network at less cost to them.
 The other reason I have heard elsewhere is that carriers are becoming
 discontent with the fact they can't have the kind of control with
 putting bloteware at all on the IPhone like they obviously can with
 Android. Apple has a heavy hand in telling the carriers what they will
 and will not do with the IPhone. I feel absolutely no sympathy for the
 carriers on that one.

 On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 True, but I find it hard to believe that Verizon would offer the
 iPhone
 in some locations but not others. Technically, there's no reason it
 won't work wherever Verizon has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of
 their
 most popular phones. It was a big deal when ATT lost their
 exclusivity
 to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as
 I
 suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like
 Verizon's
 web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone
 from
 Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for
 some reason.

 On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:
 There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are
 not
 available in certain areas.

 Dianne

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of paul and paula jordan
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:08 AM
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 Subject: RE: verizon and IPhone

 I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've
 heard
 other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.
 Very
 curious!
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe

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 Behalf
 Of dan thompson
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 8:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: verizon and IPhone

 Hi All

Re: verizon and IPhone

2012-07-03 Thread Pete Nalda
The problem I have is that to obtain an iPhone level of accessibility, one has 
to have a phone that supports ICS (4.0), whereas accessibilityis available to 
even the 3GS. 

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On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Other than not all phones getting updates to Android, what does the
 iPhone do that the Android doesn't do? I'm sure there's a bunch of
 things out there, but what comes to mind are the things you can do with
 an Android that you can't do with an iPhone.
 
 BTW, when you say Droid, I assume you mean Android phones in general and
 not just Motorola's line of Android phones.
 
 On 03/07/12 17:28, Anthony Vece wrote:
 If they made a droid that would do everything the iPhone does, I would
 think about.
 But, not all the Droids can be updated.
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 6:16 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Verizon definitely has the IPhone still, but the only thing that makes
 any sense to me about this confusion is that they do make it a bit
 obvious at times they don't want to offer the IPhone these days. They
 try very hard at times to push people over to Android instead. I have
 heard two reasons for that. One of them Verizon actually admitted to
 when I was in the store recently. The one they will tell you more or
 less is that they very much want people on 4G and not 3G. They can
 manage many more customers on their 4G network at less cost to them.
 The other reason I have heard elsewhere is that carriers are becoming
 discontent with the fact they can't have the kind of control with
 putting bloteware at all on the IPhone like they obviously can with
 Android. Apple has a heavy hand in telling the carriers what they will
 and will not do with the IPhone. I feel absolutely no sympathy for the
 carriers on that one.
 
 On 7/3/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 True, but I find it hard to believe that Verizon would offer the iPhone
 in some locations but not others. Technically, there's no reason it
 won't work wherever Verizon has coverage, and I'm sure it's one of their
 most popular phones. It was a big deal when ATT lost their exclusivity
 to the iPhone and Verizon started to also carry the iPhone. Again, as I
 suggested earlier, I'd check out some national resources, like Verizon's
 web site or an 800 number. I guess you could always order an iPhone from
 Verizon on line if your local Verizon retailer won't sell you one for
 some reason.
 
 On 03/07/12 14:41, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:
 There always seems to be a disclaimer in case certain features are not
 available in certain areas.
 
 Dianne
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of paul and paula jordan
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:08 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: verizon and IPhone
 
 I have my iPhone through Verizon and I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. I've heard
 other people say vVerizon in their area doesn't support iPhones.  Very
 curious!
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of dan thompson
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 8:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: verizon and IPhone
 
 Hi All, I thought verizon
 
 
 supported the IPhone.  However, locally I am hearing not.  Does anyone
 know
 
 if verizon
 
 
 does indeed support the IPhone?
 
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