[volt-nuts] Resistors for LTZ1000A circuit

2013-12-09 Thread Randy Evans
haven't contacted them directly. Thanks, Randy Evans ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.

[volt-nuts] Fluke 887A Modifications

2013-12-22 Thread Randy Evans
.  Just send me an e-mail request. Randy Evans ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 845 Modification LTC2057

2013-12-28 Thread Randy Evans
John, I looked at the LTC2057 but it doesn't go down to 3V operation (4.75 V min) and I want to power the Fluke 845 with 3V lithiums.  In addition, the LTC2054 has a lower input bias current (1 pA at 25 C).  I wanted the lower bias current since I want to use the circuit to upgrade an HP-419A

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 845 Modification

2013-12-29 Thread Randy Evans
Frank, The specs for the ICL7650on page 3 of the data sheet show a max bias current of 200 pa AT 85C (the ICL7650b is no longer available), higher than the LTC2054 at 150 pA at 150C.  The 845 will not be operating higher than 40C ambient, for a typical test lab environment, and the temp rise

Re: [volt-nuts] PWM voltage divider

2014-01-09 Thread Randy Evans
Charles, I looked over the list of videos on eevblog but I didn't see anything on Datron equipment. The list is not indexed so I had to manually search the list. I looked several times to no avail. Do know which episode it was? Randy Evans -- On Thu, Jan 9

Re: [volt-nuts] PWM voltage divider

2014-01-11 Thread Randy Evans
Charles, I did find some information in the thread. thanks, Randy On Thursday, January 9, 2014 5:33 PM, Charles Steinmetz csteinm...@yandex.com wrote: Randy wrote: Does anyone have sources for the Fluke 5440 manual and the Datron 4910 manuals with schematics.  I looked on K04BB's site

[volt-nuts] Connector PN

2014-01-15 Thread Randy Evans
Does anyone know the manufacturer and part number of the connectors used on the HP-3458 voltage reference board? thanks, Randy Evans ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [volt-nuts] Connector PN

2014-01-16 Thread Randy Evans
, 2014 7:44 AM, Bill Gold wpgold3...@att.net wrote: update The HP/AGILENT/KEYSIGHT P/N is 1251-6041 and is in stock at $5.13 ea. Bill - Original Message - From: Bill Gold wpgold3...@att.net To: Randy Evans randallgrayev...@yahoo.com; Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts

Re: [volt-nuts] JJA progress report

2014-02-14 Thread Randy Evans
We'll all probably want a spare unit also. On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:02 AM, Tom Miller tmiller11...@verizon.net wrote: Can we get a group buy? - Original Message - From: Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com To: volt-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:50 PM Subject:

Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082

2014-04-21 Thread Randy Evans
voltage. -Chuck Harris Randy Evans wrote: I have a Datron 1082 DMM that just recently stopped working. When I power up, it gives a FAIL message on the front panel. I found a flowchart in an abbreviated servicing manual that indicates it's from a failure of the Check

Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082

2014-04-22 Thread Randy Evans
find the part number in the 1071 parts list. Does anyone know the part number of the memory battery in the 1082 or 1071, or the characteristics; e.g., voltage and A-H rating? Thanks, Randy Evans AE6YG On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: Sorry I wasn't clear. I

Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082

2014-04-23 Thread Randy Evans
I just took out the battery and it is a Tenergy 3.6 VDC 1200mAH ER14250 with tabs welded on. Randy On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.comwrote: Todd, That does look like the battery in my 1082. I don't see any markings on the battery in my unit but I can't

[volt-nuts] Fluke calibration Book

2014-06-21 Thread Randy Evans
Here is a link to a book from Fluke titled 'Calibration - Philosophy in Practice'. A little dated (1980) but interesting to read. *https://archive.org/details/Calibration-PhilosophyInPractice https://archive.org/details/Calibration-PhilosophyInPractice* Randy Evans

Re: [volt-nuts] Buying HP-3458A

2014-07-06 Thread Randy Evans
they will take a few missing screws and such. My experience with them is they charge the same no mater what need to be fixed. Not sure what the price is, there prices are country dependent. I thought it was a little more than $2200 last I checked. On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Randy Evans

Re: [volt-nuts] Latching Low Thermal EMF Relays

2014-07-11 Thread Randy Evans
That is an assembly but I am looking for an individual relay part that I can put on a PCB. Randy On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Wim de Jong wim.de.jong...@solcon.nl wrote: The http://www.transmille.co.uk/8500.htm Wim de Jong ___ volt-nuts

[volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-16 Thread Randy Evans
matched resistor pair, hopefully not too expensive? Thanks, Randy Evans ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-17 Thread Randy Evans
Frank, The high cost is my concern, although high performance demands high price typically. I am trying to double the voltage reference from either an LM399 or LTZ1000, hence the need for precision matched resistors for a x2 non-inverting amplifier (using a LT1151 precision op amp). An

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-18 Thread Randy Evans
I figured out that VPG is Vishay Precision Group but I have not managed to identify the vhd hermetic divider. Could you point me to the location on the Vishay web site? Thanks, Randy On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com wrote: I am not familiar with vpg

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-19 Thread Randy Evans
Randy Evans: Andreas, That is good information, I appreciate it. I have contacted LT application support but they have yet to get back to me on my questions except they did recommend to use the LTC6943 instead of the LTC1043. Later generation I guess. I think i am going to try both

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-21 Thread Randy Evans
-calibrator/ http://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/ppmgeek!-5-5-digit- dvm-volt-ref-cal-%28for-arduino-or-any-uc-w-spi%29/msg296127/#msg296127 With best regards Andreas Am 19.07.2014 16:33, schrieb Randy Evans: Andreas, Thanks for the information. Do you have the drift chart, etc. posted

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-21 Thread Randy Evans
Andreas, Of course, I would also expect the leakage currents to change over time/temperature and I would expect them to be the dominant error source. Randy On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com wrote: Andreas, Since you are familiar with the LTC1043, do you

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-22 Thread Randy Evans
. Juli 2014 um 20:28 Uhr Von: Bob Smither smit...@c-c-i.com An: Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts@febo.com Betreff: Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors On 07/17/2014 10:26 AM, Randy Evans wrote: Frank, The high cost is my concern, although high performance demands

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-23 Thread Randy Evans
probably don't need to know the temperature tracking coefficient to better than 20%. Component layout would need to ensure any thermal gradients apply equally to both legs of the divider by interleaving upper and lower resistors. Tony H On 17/07/2014 16:26, Randy Evans wrote: Frank

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-23 Thread Randy Evans
Tony, I should have mentioned that I am primarily referring to stability, not accuracy. As i stated before, accuracy is relatively unimportant but stability is essential. Randy On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com wrote: Tony, Your improvement factor

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-24 Thread Randy Evans
Tony, Sorry for not reading further. I will give it some thought. Interesting idea. Randy On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Tony Holt vn...@toneh.demon.co.uk wrote: Randy, On 24/07/2014 04:22, Randy Evans wrote: Tony, Your improvement factor of SQRT(n) assumes that each resistor

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-26 Thread Randy Evans
I would like to thank all those you supplied ideas for matching resistors. I have decided to test three approaches for now, the first is using Vishay vhd200 hermetically sealed foil resistors (three each at around $26 each), the second is using LTC5400 resistor arrays, the third is a hybrid

Re: [volt-nuts] Matched resistors

2014-07-27 Thread Randy Evans
, schrieb Randy Evans: I would like to thank all those you supplied ideas for matching resistors. I have decided to test three approaches for now, the first is using Vishay vhd200 hermetically sealed foil resistors (three each at around $26 each), the second is using LTC5400 resistor arrays

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-08-09 Thread Randy Evans
support for it was dropped long before 1993. It would be interesting to see how many of the original parts were removed and how this new board was mounted inside the AB chassis. Todd On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com wrote: For those interested, I have

[volt-nuts] New HP3458A

2014-08-14 Thread Randy Evans
noticed when I push the auto zero button, the display has a blinking square until I hit a measurement mode button; e.g., DCV, ACV, OHM, etc. Is this normal? Regards, Randy Evans ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https

Re: [volt-nuts] RE new 3458A

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
. #8 for how to get inside of the meter. You will need two sizes of a PosiDrive type screwdrivers to accomplish this. Again in the Cal Manual. Bill - Original Message - From: Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts@febo.com Sent

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 732A themistor reading

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
important. Fluke says that it could change as much as 10 ohms per month but mine are rock solid for years and years. Bill - Original Message - From: Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com To: volt-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:08 AM Subject: [volt-nuts] Fluke 732A

Re: [volt-nuts] RE new 3458A

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
for the syntax. Bill - Original Message - From: Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] RE new 3458A Bill, You are very helpful and I really appreciate it. I

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 732A themistor reading

2014-08-17 Thread Randy Evans
. Randy On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Todd Micallef tmical...@gmail.com wrote: Randy, Next thing you know, you will be looking at a 10K standard resistor to go with that 3458A and possible 732A. Todd On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com wrote: Todd

Re: [volt-nuts] HP 3458A Mem test 1 hight. How do you read 32K memory chips?

2014-08-21 Thread Randy Evans
Mark, I just ordered the ProLogix USB-GPIB converter specifically to read the contents of my 3458A. Would it be possible to get a copy of your program that you wrote to read the memory contents. It would be greatly appreciated and save me a lot of work and frustration. thanks, Randy On Wed,

[volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-22 Thread Randy Evans
I received my Fluke 732A today. Just powered it up but it needs new batteries. Any suggestions for sources (I haven't opened up the unit yet - I want to make sure it works before doing that). Also received the ProLogix USB-GPIB adapter. I plan on using Mark Sims' CAL ran data dumper program to

[volt-nuts] 732A drift

2014-08-22 Thread Randy Evans
I hope someone can help with a strange anomaly on either my 3458A or the 732A. The 732A 10V output as measured on my 3458A seems relatively stable over time (it bounces around about +/-1 uV but is it the 732 or the 3458?). However, the 1.000 VDC output drifts downward at a rate around 1-2 uV per

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
in the leads. I hope all of this helps. Bill - Original Message - From: Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received Todd

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
for several minutes after plugging in the leads. I hope all of this helps. Bill - Original Message - From: Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:03 PM

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
of the data you can collect. That was after waiting for several minutes after plugging in the leads. I hope all of this helps. Bill - Original Message - From: Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
detailed sometimes. Bill - Original Message - From: Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received Bill, I have convinced myself

[volt-nuts] Access to Volt-Nuts Web site

2014-08-25 Thread Randy Evans
For some reason I can no longer access the Volt-Nuts web site. Has anything changed on the permissions list? Is anyone else having this problem? I get the following message: You don't have permission to access /pipermail/volt-nuts/ on this server. Thanks, Randy

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-26 Thread Randy Evans
on the display it is done. But then with 1000 PLC that is around 16.66 seconds per reading times 100 readings is somewhere around 28 minutes and there is probably some overhead time so around 30 minutes. Not from the front panel at any rate. Bill - Original Message - From: Randy Evans

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-27 Thread Randy Evans
, 26. August 2014 um 04:23 Uhr Von: Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com An: Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts@febo.com Betreff: Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received Is there any way to tell when the function key routine is complete? In the case of taking multiple

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-27 Thread Randy Evans
I forgot to mention that I reduced the number of measurements to 100 per set since I wasn't seeing much difference in the variance between 100 and 1000 measurements and the 1000 measurement per set takes too long. Randy On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-27 Thread Randy Evans
(these guys told me), but the 732a is certainly very stable short term compared to a 3458a. my 732a e.g. has a drift of 0.2ppm per year. Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. August 2014 um 14:36 Uhr Von: Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com An: Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts@febo.com

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-27 Thread Randy Evans
with a josephson element (these guys told me), but the 732a is certainly very stable short term compared to a 3458a. my 732a e.g. has a drift of 0.2ppm per year. Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. August 2014 um 14:36 Uhr Von: Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com An: Discussion of precise voltage

[volt-nuts] 732A and 3458A stability

2014-09-05 Thread Randy Evans
of the readings are around 10.58 VDC but neither unit is calibrated. I assume they can be calibrated but I wanted to make sure they are stable first. Do these numbers look reasonable and do they indicate any issues with the units? Thanks, Randy Evans ___ volt

Re: [volt-nuts] Old HP3458A - SN: 2823A 03939

2014-09-21 Thread Randy Evans
I checked my 3458A and it says that the Rev is 8.2. What can I infer about the unit? I have not opened it up yet to check the status of the NVRAM since I am waiting for the posidrive tools. Randy On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 9:20 AM, J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net wrote: Not in front of my meter

[volt-nuts] 732A rear panel battery connector

2014-10-13 Thread Randy Evans
Does anyone have a spare connector plug for the 732A external battery connector that they would be willing to sell. Or conversely, a good Fluke PN for the connector ( I saw several in discussions but I'm not sure which is the best part number to use). Thanks, Randy Evans

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A rear panel battery connector

2014-10-20 Thread Randy Evans
Charles, Thanks for the update. I was able to get a cable plug set from Todd Micallef. Randy On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Charles Steinmetz csteinm...@yandex.com wrote: Randy wrote: Does anyone have a spare connector plug for the 732A external battery *** ( I saw several in

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-11-26 Thread Randy Evans
chopper. Any help or made expericance would perfect. BR Ludger / PeLuLe *Gesendet:* Samstag, 09. August 2014 um 03:23 Uhr *Von:* Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com *An:* Discussion of precise voltage measurement volt-nuts@febo.com *Betreff:* Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-12-01 Thread Randy Evans
inverter circuit in place, you can easily derive any voltages (+ and -) that your mod needs from it, without the need for additional isolated power supplies Dave M Randy Evans wrote: I finished the H-419A/Fluke 845A design modifications but I am still trying to decide on the preferred

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-12-02 Thread Randy Evans
. This was the driving source for my mod, Dallas Randy Evans wrote: I finished the H-419A/Fluke 845A design modifications but I am still trying to decide on the preferred power supply design. The basic meter circuit uses the LTC2054 and LTC6255 with two CR123 Li-Ion 3 V batteries

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419 and Fluke 845 Modifications

2014-12-10 Thread Randy Evans
to the connector. The only downside would be no resale to a purist who wants to run with the David Wise HP H11 linear optocoupler/photochopper replacement (see HP yahoo group for HP740b ). Just curious, Stan On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com wrote: I have finished

Re: [volt-nuts] Link to LTZ1000 temperature calculation plot

2015-02-16 Thread Randy Evans
Thanks Jan, These plots should prove very useful. Randy Evans On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Jan Fredriksson j...@41hz.com wrote: It's reply #984 in the thread. See also #982 http://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/ultra-precision-reference-ltz1000/msg605967/#msg605967 Direct to plot file

Re: [volt-nuts] [Bulk] Re: 3458A reference boards on ebay

2015-01-28 Thread Randy Evans
I bought two HP-3458A ref boards from John Daly (he no longer has any more) and they worked fine but have intermittent noise bursts. I suspect they were rejects from HP/Agilent. At some point I will probably replace the LTZ1000As and reduce the internal temperature set point for better

Re: [volt-nuts] [Bulk] Re: 3458A reference boards on ebay

2015-01-29 Thread Randy Evans
The reference module is in a metal box and uses an external linear PS with internal separate regulation. I don't think its external EMI, but anything is possible. Randy On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Hendrik Dietrich don_he...@gmx.de wrote: Am 29.01.2015 04:07, schrieb Randy Evans: I

[volt-nuts] Design Spark PCB Design Package

2015-01-05 Thread Randy Evans
This is indirectly pertinent to the group since I am designing a PCB for the HP-419A and Fluke 845A modifications. Does anyone have any experience/comments on the Design Spark PCB design package? Is is a viable package for hobbyist use? thanks, Randy Evans

Re: [volt-nuts] LTZ1000A Heater Temp (Ben Clark)

2015-02-13 Thread Randy Evans
Jan, Would you please post the link to your plot? I searched but haven't found it yet. thanks, Randy Evans On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Jan Fredriksson j...@41hz.com wrote: I posted a plot of calculated resistor values versus temperature in the LTZ1000 thread on the EVV blog yetserday

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458a display board

2015-04-15 Thread Randy Evans
FYI, I contacted Keysight and found the exchange program is still in place. The PN is 03458-69517 and the price is $278. Randy Evans AE6YG On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.com wrote: I need to replace the display board for my HP-3458A (several dim

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458a display board

2015-04-16 Thread Randy Evans
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:39:38 -0700 From: randyevans2...@gmail.com To: volt-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458a display board FYI, I contacted Keysight and found the exchange program is still in place. The PN is 03458-69517 and the price is $278. Randy Evans AE6YG

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458A questions

2015-06-03 Thread Randy Evans
Frank, Thanks for the data. The 100K seems acceptable since I have a Fluke 732A to recalibrate the 3458A with after the change and the 3458A is not in a rack. Randy On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Frank Stellmach frank.stellm...@freenet.de wrote: Hi Randy, in advance, this change only

[volt-nuts] HP-419A Fluke 845A Mods - shared link

2015-06-23 Thread Randy Evans
the design a bit. Hopefully I created the link correctly. Let me know if you have any issues with the link. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7b3hsy0j0wq35hw/AABkmVptTwVu2EJFRqtSdAjya?dl=0 Randy Evans AE6YG ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-419A Fluke 845A Mods - shared link

2015-06-24 Thread Randy Evans
you post a higher resolution image of the markup details? Don't really need the full schematic, just the areas where the connections to the new circuit are made. Thanks again, Dave M Randy Evans wrote: I have created a shared link to my working folder with the details of the HP-419A

[volt-nuts] HP-3458A questions

2015-06-02 Thread Randy Evans
but I am confused how to use it (I want to back up my HP-3458A before I attempt to replace the display board). thanks, Randy Evans AE6YG ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

[volt-nuts] Oven thermal insulation

2015-07-06 Thread Randy Evans
that looks like it would work really well, but I have no idea what it is. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Randy Evans AE6YG ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [volt-nuts] Oven thermal insulation

2015-07-07 Thread Randy Evans
Frank, I don't plan on operating at 80C. I just want an insulation that can withstand up to 80C so i have a safety margin. 45C is probably too low for my environment but 50C might be doable. Thanks, Randy On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Frank Stellmach frank.stellm...@freenet.de wrote:

Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A Zero reading

2015-07-27 Thread Randy Evans
I used a 12 AWG wire formed into a U shape for the short and the zero voltage measured less than 0.2 uV after a good 2+ hour warmup. However, I am seeing drifts of several uV for the 752 calibration. I was using TV twin lead to connect the 732 to 752 and 752 to 3458A since that's really all I

[volt-nuts] HP-3458A Zero Reading

2015-07-26 Thread Randy Evans
A bit of a false lead. I took the readings after an hour of warmup. However, after about two hours, the zero reading went to less thatn 0.2 uV, which seems just fine to me. I guess i just needed to get a really good warmup time. However, the 752 readings are varying over several uV when doing

[volt-nuts] HP-3458A Zero Reading

2015-07-26 Thread Randy Evans
I shorted the input terminals of my HP-3458A with a short lead of copper wire, Bell telephone wire as recommended in the manual. The reading I get is around 000.00070 mV, or 0.7 uV with NLPC set to 100. I was trying to evaluate it's use as a null meter for my Fluke 752A divider. This seems a

[volt-nuts] Test Leads

2015-07-21 Thread Randy Evans
spade lugs (Pomona 2305 Low thermal EMF spade lug, Gold-plated?). Any other suggestions? Thanks, Randy Evans AE6YG ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow

Re: [volt-nuts] LTZ1000 project build

2016-05-26 Thread Randy Evans
Illya, Very interesting. The temco/stability data does not plot but the X-Y format seems to be OK. Is it supposed to plot or do I have to plot it myself with the csv data? Thanks, Randy Evans On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:42 AM, Illya Tsemenko <il...@xdevs.com> wrote: > I'm glad

Re: [volt-nuts] volt-nuts Digest, Vol 77, Issue 15

2016-01-31 Thread Randy Evans
Willy, Where are you located? Randy Evans AE6YG On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 11:49 AM, new <pit...@williams-net.com> wrote: > I'm thinking of doing non-commercial 'calibrations' for > folks like us volt-nuts. > > Since I have three 3458s, three 732As, a 732b, a 4214, > an sr

[volt-nuts] ADA4522

2016-04-07 Thread Randy Evans
Has anyone looked at the ADA4522 precision op amp from Analog Devices. It looks very intriguing with it's extremely low offset voltage drift of 22 nV/°C maximum. The offset voltage is as high as 5 uV but this could be nulled out and it should be very stable over temperature after that. It could

Re: [volt-nuts] Retiring collection of 6/7 dial bridges

2016-04-10 Thread Randy Evans
I live locally and I am interested in the items. Do you have a complete list available? Randy Evans On Apr 9, 2016 9:34 PM, "Demian Martin" <demianm@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a number of precision bridges and the like that I really need to > move > on to a new ho

Re: [volt-nuts] ADA4522

2016-04-08 Thread Randy Evans
he manual increases the output resistance. > > > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 08. April 2016 um 03:35 Uhr > > Von: "Randy Evans" <randyevans2...@gmail.com> > > An: "Discussion of precise voltage measurement" <volt-nuts@febo.com> > > Betreff:

Re: [volt-nuts] PCB Artist

2016-12-13 Thread Randy Evans
KiCad looks very good and I downloaded it to try it out. However, does anyone have a good, low-cost PCB fab house to recommend? I am designing a voltage reference programmable fro 0 to 10 volts with a LTZ1000 reference and settabiltiy of 0.1ppm and I need a PCB fabbed. Thanks, Randy Evans

Re: [volt-nuts] Short term "standard" cell?

2017-03-13 Thread Randy Evans
FYI, I bought two of these used 3458A reference boards for $85 each a few years ago and they both experience noise bursts. I plan on replacing the LTZ1000 chips on them (sometime in the near future). Randy Evans AE6YG On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 10:53 AM, m k <m1k...@hotmail.com>

[volt-nuts] Fluke 887 mod with LTC1050

2017-04-26 Thread Randy Evans
. However, this would imply an 8pA bias current, which is much higher than expected. My question is: does anyone else have a better explanation for this issue and does anyone experience this issue with the original circuit? Thanks, Randy Evans AE6YG

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 887 mod with LTC1050

2017-04-27 Thread Randy Evans
Charles, You are absolutely correct. I misread the data sheet. It's interesting that all three LTC1050s behave exactly the same. They have the same lot code number.but I would expect more variation. Live an learn. Randy On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Charles Steinmetz

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 887 mod with LTC1050

2017-04-27 Thread Randy Evans
It looks like a better candidate would be the LTC2054, which has a typical bias current of 1 pA at 25C and is essentially constant up to 45C. Randy On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Randy Evans <randyevans2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Charles, > > You are absolutely correct. I misread

Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 887 mod with LTC1050

2017-04-29 Thread Randy Evans
Frank, The 8 pA bias current is well within the spec for the LTC1050 (+-10pA typical, worst case +-50pA at 25C) but I was surprised about the lack of variation. I also tried an "air bridge" wiring from the 887 filter to the LTC1050 to avoid any leakage of the circuit board. It made no

Re: [volt-nuts] FS: Keithley 2000 6 1/2 Digit DMM

2017-05-04 Thread Randy Evans
Bob, I am interested in the Keithley if it is still available. Thanks, Randy Evans On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Four Designs Company < fourdesi...@comcast.net> wrote: > Greetings all: > > I am offering a Keithley 2000 6-1/2 digit DMM for sale. This instrument is > from m

[volt-nuts] HP-3458A NVRAM

2017-11-10 Thread Randy Evans
access." There have been documented cases where the new DS1220AD part will not work in circuits designed with the DS1220Y (now discontinued). I would like to know if anyone has successfully utilized the DS1220AD before proceeding to buy the parts. Similar question for the DS1230Y and D

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-23 Thread Randy Evans
drifty component. Good stable 3458A stable to <0.2ppm over week. On November 24, 2017 9:32:30 AM GMT+08:00, Randy Evans < randyevans2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Illya, > > Can you explain why you say " If ACAL DCV does not remove drift then A3 > is probably fine&quo

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-23 Thread Randy Evans
may have been serviced at some time. > > On November 24, 2017 8:40:00 AM GMT+08:00, Randy Evans < > randyevans2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Illya, >> >> I ran the test you suggested over 4 days and got 7.19114068 VDC on the >> start of the test and 7.1

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-23 Thread Randy Evans
the A3 card is the primary source of drifting. Since the unit is a late model Agilent unit, that is well beyond the expected range of units described in Service Note 18. What do you think? Thanks, Randy Evans On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Illya Tsemenko <il...@xdevs.com> wrote: >

[volt-nuts] Drifting 3458As

2017-11-29 Thread Randy Evans
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Re: [volt-nuts] Drifting 3458As

2017-12-01 Thread Randy Evans
is to see if there is agreement that the A9 board is likely the culprit. Thanks, Randy Evans On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:58 AM, <acb...@gmx.de> wrote: > What you describe (A9 drift) would be the explanation. However question is > how much you see. The A9 should not drift much in the interv

[volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-17 Thread Randy Evans
. Thanks, Randy Evans HP-3458A Calibration drift rate 2017-11-17A.xlsx Description: MS-Excel 2007 spreadsheet ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458A NVRAM

2017-11-11 Thread Randy Evans
Frank, Thanks for the information. I was hoping to hear from someone that had actually successfully used the DS1220AD in the 3458A. I did not understand the comment about the "instrument of 'quarks'", but it may be in regards to the second set of DS1230Y NVRAMs? Did you change those out to

Re: [volt-nuts] HP-3458A NVRAM

2017-11-10 Thread Randy Evans
that has actually successfully replaced the DS1220Y with the DS1220AD, since the DS1220Y is no longer avaialble.. On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 5:20 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <p...@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote: > > In message <CANwu9JbdybQPrSOrQn6xRM0M5YpaL2t40i33+bZMJcDJjO=fqg@mail. > gm

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-18 Thread Randy Evans
cuits, as 7V is not used > directly in the meter, and there are still gain parts to get +12 and > -12VREF on A3 and 10Vish bipolar levels on A1. If your CAL? 2,1 stays same > (within 0.3ppm) then A9 is fine. > > > On November 18, 2017 12:59:53 PM GMT+08:00, Randy Evans < > randye

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-18 Thread Randy Evans
, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Randy Evans <randyevans2...@gmail.com> wrote: > When I try to execute a 10V cal, I get an error code "209 HARDWARE FAILURE > - - INTERNAL OVERLOAD:31" I suspect that the unit has a different > security code than 3458. I can't change it without openi

Re: [volt-nuts] Agilent 3458A Issues

2017-11-18 Thread Randy Evans
any other suggestions on how to check the A9 card? On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Randy Evans <randyevans2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Illya, > > That is a great idea. I will give it a try. > > Thanks > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Illya Tsemenko <il...@xdevs.com&g

Re: [volt-nuts] Prema 6048 Cal switch confusion

2017-11-03 Thread Randy Evans
ssor does not become active during a power-up cycle for at least 125ms to ensure that the NV SRAM is available before the processor attempts a memory access. Randy Evans On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 2:54 AM, David C. Partridge < david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk> wrote: > This gets odder and od

[volt-nuts] EPROM Programmer

2017-11-07 Thread Randy Evans
230Y NVRAM, but does still make the DS1230Y NVRAM, according to their data sheet). Thanks, Randy Evans ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [volt-nuts] Banana jack shorting straps

2017-11-09 Thread Randy Evans
I believe that the Fluke shorting system has 3/4" spacing both vertically and horizontally, which is not compatible with the 3458 (I couldn't find a spec but visually it looks identically in both dimensions in the photos). The 3458 spacing is slightly greater than 3/4' horizontally. On Thu, Nov

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-30 Thread Randy Evans
to try it. If it works for you, I will > have Illya update it on xDevs. > > Todd > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Randy Evans <randyevans2...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I am still unable to get my HP-3458A to work with the xdevs program > > "HP3458A_Me

Re: [volt-nuts] GPIB Issue with 3458A

2017-12-30 Thread Randy Evans
Samsung Galaxy smartphone > >> > ---- Original message From: Todd Micallef < > >> tmical...@gmail.com> > >> > Date: 12/30/17 6:13 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Discussion of precise voltage > >> > measurement <volt-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] GPI

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