Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
- Original Message - From: thomas malloy
Over the past year we have discussed a number of areas which might
provide an unlimited source of pollution free energy.
I think I will get attacked for this but.
What has the ZPE hype ever gotten us? I remember
On 1/2/07, RC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Taking a huge step .. pure conjecture would suggest the names of the
players.. GE and Siemens.. are sufficent to think it fits.
These two players in the great game are not kids nor fools. They don't
invest 1/2 bil bucks in HydroHub Singapore
Living creatures are very complex but the energy they use
can be traced from their food. I don't know why living
creatures are not able to nanofabricate subsystems that
get energy by getting around the Second Law on the
nanometer scale; such creatures would not need food. One
answer is that
Richard wrote:
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They must have energy so they use coal. China is obviously aware of the
havoc the use of coal will wreak on their long term plans. Consider they
are painfully aware of the need for clean cheap energy,, Taken another
step, it is conceivable they are feverishly searching for
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From: thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:43 AM
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The would, if they could. But I don't think that the second law is any
danger from any dingus. Living systems
thomas malloy wrote:
Charlie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Second Law circumventing machines could convert two
tanks of lukewarm
water into one of cold water and one of hot water
with
The would, if they could. But I don't think that the
second law is any
danger from any dingus. Living
Mike Carrell wrote:
- Original Message - From: thomas malloy
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To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:43 AM
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The would, if they could. But I don't think that
the second law is any
danger
Mike Carrell wrote:
- Original Message - From: thomas malloy
The would, if they could. But I don't think that the second law is
any danger from any dingus. Living systems OTOH, can reverse it, and
there are reports that they do emit photons, perhaps someone knows
more about this.
One great thing Alexander the great did was slice away a
complicated knot that got in his way. I've heard enough
about the Second Law to assert that it won't stop several
types of nanometer scale devices and one type of bulk
device from working. Let's build some working 2LoT
circumventing
From Jones Beene,
To fly 7 million light years to O'Hare [airport in
Chicago] and then have to turn around and go home
because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/02/tech/main2323918.shtml
I could find myself pontificating lot on this
Life is both constructive and productive.
However, our culture does not have a balanced appreciation
of both. Productive processes and measures are over
emphasised.
The laws of thermodynamics address the productive aspects
of life. They fail to address the constructive aspects of life.
Harry
Vo,
Joe Yater spent many years working with and patenting such diode arrays. He
even testified before a Congressional Committee regarding their unrecognized
potential.
More recent work in thermionics by others, such as Borealis Power, may have
superseded his work.
Mark
From: [EMAIL
In reply to Mark Goldes's message of Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:33:52 -0800:
Hi,
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More recent work in thermionics by others, such as Borealis Power, may have
superseded his work.
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The Borealis work depends on a temperature differential. No violation of 2LoT
involved.
Regards,
Robin van
- Original Message
From: Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Mark Goldes' message
More recent work in thermionics by others, such as Borealis Power, may have
superseded his work.
The Borealis work depends on a temperature differential. No violation of 2LoT
involved.
This may be a
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Living creatures are very complex but the energy they use can be
traced from their food. I don't know why living creatures are not
The web of life takes solar energy and converts it into phytochemicals,
a first concentration which animals them consume. The chemicals
Mike Carrell wrote:
- Original Message - From: thomas malloy
The would, if they could. But I don't think that the second law is
any danger from any dingus. Living systems OTOH, can reverse it, and
there are reports that they do emit photons, perhaps someone knows
more about this.
Paul wrote:
Mike Carrell wrote:
- Original Message - From: thomas malloy
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The would, if they could. But I don't think that the second law is any
danger from any dingus. Living systems OTOH, can
Mike said
Living systems do not reverse the second law, which
It just occurred to me that with two containers of warm water it would
be possible to make one steam and the other freeze with a heat pump. Of
course that requires energy from outside the system. So, make that a
self powered heat pump, hum, perhaps one that repairs itself too.
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thomas malloy wrote:
Lets not waste any more time on the 2nd fictitious
law
of thermodynamics. :-)
Which one of you, by the force of your will, or any
dingus can take two
containers of warm water and make one steam and the
other freeze? It's
not a fictitious law. heat migrates from a
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