[Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.japancorp.net/Article.Asp?Art_ID=14929 Japan Certifies Toyota Plug-in Hybrid for Public-road Tests Tokyo, Japan, July 25, 2007 - (JCN Newswire) - TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION (TMC) announced today that it has developed a plug-in hybrid vehicle and become the first manufacturer to

[Vo]:Engadget Interview: Sean McCarthy, CEO of STEORN, July 17

2007-07-25 Thread OrionWorks
July 17 Excerpts from The Engadget Interview: Sean McCarthy, CEO of STEORN http://www.steorn.com/news/coverage/?id=1121 One particular quote which I thought was revealing: [SEAN] ...the biggest mistake that we've made and obviously we have to learn from our mistakes was to pre-announce the

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 25, 2007, at 5:58 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: See: http://www.japancorp.net/Article.Asp?Art_ID=14929 Some specs: Motor Type: AC synchronous motor Maximum output: 50kW(68PS)/1,200-1,540rpm Maximum torque: 400N-m(40.8kg-m)/0-1,200rpm Secondary battery Type: Nickel-metal hydride

Re: [Vo]:Anode glow and electron fugacity

2007-07-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 24, 2007, at 3:15 PM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: Howdy Horace, Not unnoticed... just full of questions. I am trying to reconcile the production of hydrogen these links describe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO15VGtKZo0NR=1 I noticed 2 things about the Stan Meyer video. First, there

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: The vehicle, called Toyota Plug-in HV, displayed Wednesday runs on the same nickel metal hydride battery as the Prius and has a cruising range of 13 kilometers (8 miles) on electricity. This range is better than you might think, for two reasons: 1. The average

[Vo]:The fortnight

2007-07-25 Thread Jones Beene
This may be lightweight, but not exactly off-topic. Any Vortician who might have anecdotal (but arguably scientific) information on relevance of *fourteen-day* or two week cycles, is invited to post that data to this thread. Also important is any regular cycle which might influence an energy

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On 7/25/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The average commuting distance in Europe and Japan is ~10 km. In the U.S. it varies from 10 to 20 km (a lot more in Atlanta). If a worker can plug in at the office the entire trip will be electric. Over 50 km on average in Hotlanta. Terry

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 25, 2007, at 6:38 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: The vehicle, called Toyota Plug-in HV, displayed Wednesday runs on the same nickel metal hydride battery as the Prius and has a cruising range of 13 kilometers (8 miles) on electricity. This range is better than you

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Jones Beene
Now - to really get things moving ... if Toyota would agree to make these plug-ins in the USA (at any of their 10 plants here) then Congress might be inclined to subsidize some kind of tax incentive (not so much the present administration but the post-Bush replacement theives)- ...and EPRI

[Vo]:The Ho Motor

2007-07-25 Thread Jones Beene
Lost amidst the Steorn recriminations: http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Magnetic_Motor.pdf From China, with love - or more self-delusion? Awkshully, this one makes some sense. Time will tell. It is tough for a dedicated punster not to have a go with this one. I am hoping that Terry does not

Re: [Vo]:The Ho Motor

2007-07-25 Thread OrionWorks
On 7/25/07, Jones Beene wrote: Lost amidst the Steorn recriminations: http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Magnetic_Motor.pdf From China, with love - or more self-delusion? Awkshully, this one makes some sense. Time will tell. It is tough for a dedicated punster not to have a go with this

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread OrionWorks
Regarding: http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/01/phoenix-motorcars-intros-a-truly-plug-and-play-car/ or http://tinyurl.com/35kzby $45k. Not bad. Still beyond my pocket book, but way under the Tesla price tag. :-) Regarding the last comment: Update: We neglected to mention that while a normal

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: They have some really big competition: http://www.google.org/recharge/ This is Google's small-scale test of plug-in hybrids. I believe this is in cooperation with CalCars (http://www.calcars.org/). Google's cooperation is welcome news, of course, but it is not big

Re: [Vo]:Dr. Math Prof. OU

2007-07-25 Thread Jones Beene
Richard, Here is the Thread on the Steorn forum: http://www.steorn.net/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=29533 It seems the effect is somewhat akin to the Ouija board, which everyone in Texas knows about... but on steroids. There seems to be something to it - at least anecdotally (and to

Re: [Vo]:The Ho Motor

2007-07-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 25, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Lost amidst the Steorn recriminations: http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Magnetic_Motor.pdf From China, with love - or more self-delusion? It is more confusion than delusion. Their mistake is right out in plain sight. They can't tell the

Re: [Vo]:Re: centripetal force question

2007-07-25 Thread Harry Veeder
On 25/7/2007 2:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On 21/7/2007 11:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Something else leaves me wondering... Harry wrote: While the brakes are applied the wheel is not turning about its own centre. Michel wrote: Wrt the ground it isn't, but wrt the distant stars it

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: Weird. Not busted on the email I got back from vortex-l. Is it busted for you below (and if so in the same place): Yup. Could be a Eudora problem. On the other hand, the copy I sent out came back intact. No biggie. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Terry Blanton
It depends on your email software. Google retains the link intact. Another URL shortener is snipurl.com. Tinyurl.com only pastes to windoz XP and later. Snipurl.com will paste into win2000 automatically. Terry On 7/25/07, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 25, 2007, at 11:15

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Terry Blanton
They have some really big competition: http://www.google.org/recharge/ Terry On 7/25/07, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 25, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Now - to really get things moving ... if Toyota would agree to make these plug-ins in the USA (at any of their

Re: [Vo]:Dr. Math Prof. OU

2007-07-25 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Jones wrote.. Seriously however, we can probably opine that if the thing did work as advertised - but only with a four legged rotor and not with a three legged rotor - then it has something to do with too many degrees of freedom being the important (sine qua non) design feature ...OTOH - one

Re: [Vo]:The Ho Motor

2007-07-25 Thread Michael Foster
--- Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lost amidst the Steorn recriminations: http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Magnetic_Motor.pdf From China, with love - or more self-delusion? Awkshully, this one makes some sense. Time will tell. It is tough for a dedicated punster not to have

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 25, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: Looks just like the one I posted. Did it not work for you? Yours is busted. At least, on my e-mail reader it is. It says: http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/01/phoenix-motorcars-intros-a- truly- [SPACE HERE]

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: Looks just like the one I posted. Did it not work for you? Yours is busted. At least, on my e-mail reader it is. It says: http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/01/phoenix-motorcars-intros-a-truly- [SPACE HERE] plug-and-play-car/ [THIS PART DROPS OUT] URLs should be short.

Re: [Vo]:The Ho Motor

2007-07-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Why should I. The inventors' name say it all: Tseung Ho Kin* Terry (*Some hokum!) On 7/25/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lost amidst the Steorn recriminations: http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Magnetic_Motor.pdf From China, with love - or more self-delusion? Awkshully, this

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 25, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Let's try that long URL again: http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/01/phoenix-motorcars-intros-a-truly- plug-and-play-car/ - Jed Looks just like the one I posted. Did it not work for you? On Jul 25, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug in hybrid

2007-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Let's try that long URL again: http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/01/phoenix-motorcars-intros-a-truly-plug-and-play-car/ - Jed

Re: [Vo]:The Ho Motor

2007-07-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 25, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Lost amidst the Steorn recriminations: http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Magnetic_Motor.pdf From China, with love - or more self-delusion? China must pump in resources asap to compete internationally (flying saucer is imminent) Horace

[Vo]:Dr. Math Prof. OU

2007-07-25 Thread Jones Beene
Isn't Wednesday benefit of the doubt day? Assuming the Ho Group has seen a real anomaly and is not some 3-Stooge comedy routine (where are the ape suits?) ...is there anything valid in this setup which could have relevance to other concepts - even nonmagnetic (chemical, mechanical etc)?

Re: [Vo]:The Ho Motor

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Goldes
This is the same motor as I mentioned earlier. However, the material is a bit more extensive, primarily as a result of related suggestions, etc. Our mechanical lab studied it carefully with 3 D magnetic design software and it appears it may work as claimed. The prototype shown is not likely to

Re: [Vo]:Re: centripetal force question

2007-07-25 Thread Harry Veeder
On 21/7/2007 11:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Something else leaves me wondering... Harry wrote: While the brakes are applied the wheel is not turning about its own centre. Michel wrote: Wrt the ground it isn't, but wrt the distant stars it is, at the rate of one turn per day (it

Re: [Vo]:The Ho Motor

2007-07-25 Thread OrionWorks
From: Horace Heffner On Jul 25, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Lost amidst the Steorn recriminations: http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Magnetic_Motor.pdf From China, with love - or more self-delusion? China must pump in resources asap to compete internationally (flying saucer is

Re: [Vo]:The Ho Motor

2007-07-25 Thread thomas malloy
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 25, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Lost amidst the Steorn recriminations: http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Magnetic_Motor.pdf From China, with love - or more self-delusion? It is more confusion than delusion. Their mistake is right out in plain