Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

2007-12-14 Thread Frederick Sparber
Or you can mosey over to the dime store saloon near Houston and environs, or the White House, and get a first hand look. grin On Dec 14, 2007 5:59 AM, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Philip, You are not being paid to think. grin Breeding shows in horses, dogs and women. Go to

[Vo]:The Susslick controversey

2007-12-14 Thread Frederick Sparber
I take exception to Dr. Storms' statement that Sonofdusion is unrelated to LENR. IMHO, it's all a matter of where a long-lived, Cosmic Ray Generated Metastable Muon is located in the electron cloud of any atom-molecule in the environment. Scroll down to the Bubble Chamber Photograph (1 and 2)

Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

2007-12-14 Thread R.C.Macaulay
OT: Are humans evolving faster? Howdy Philip, You are not being paid to think. grin Breeding shows in horses, dogs and women. Go to any dog pound, college, welfare office, local high school or ghetto. Hurricane Katrina provided an excellent example of the result of selective breeding

Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

2007-12-14 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Howdy Fred, I figured anybody with a lick of sense would already understood that. I just wish you wouldn't compare an upscale saloon like the Dime Box with the White House. After all, we have feelings. Richard Fred wrote.. Or you can mosey over to the dime store saloon near Houston and

RE: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

2007-12-14 Thread Jeff Fink
Is it culture that allowed western Europe/America to develop such incredible technology while all previous insipient techno societies such as China and Egypt failed to mature technically? I tend to think that freedom and the rise of a middle class are essential. There must be time and resources

Re: [Vo]:Re: Quasi-Stable Negative Muons or Heavy Positronium-Electronium?

2007-12-14 Thread Jones Beene
An example? http://current.com/items/87014271_elemental_the_generator_that_runs_on_background_radiation Frederick Sparber wrote: Jones. A bound state of e- e+ e- (about 10^12 % according to CRC tables) is known. With a mass about 207 times that of the electron and about 0.5 MeV

[Vo]:Stable deflated state computation

2007-12-14 Thread Horace Heffner
The deflated hydrogen state is defined in this article: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/DeflationFusion.pdf The deflated state deuterium calculations, which essentially demonstrate the feasibility, and upper bound for the radius, of the state, are now located at:

RE: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

2007-12-14 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
There have been many studies of the relationship between cultural attributes and economic or technological 'progress.' I think several things can be said about this that these studies tend to miss: 1. As I see it, 'Progress' is itself a culturally defined notion. What seems like progress

Re: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

2007-12-14 Thread leaking pen
There is no escaping reason; no denying culture. Because as we both know, without culture, we would not exist. It is culture that created us. Culture that connects us. Culture that pulls us. That guides us. That drives us. It is culture that defines us. Culture that binds us. sorry.

Re: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

2007-12-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Rapid technological progress is a perfect storm of the brainy kind. Harry On 14/12/2007 12:40 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Jeff Fink wrote: Is it culture that allowed western Europe/America to develop such incredible technology while all previous insipient techno societies such as

[Vo]:Hurrah for Google!

2007-12-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
There is an e-mail discussion going on about Pierre Carbonnelle's heroic attempt to rescue the Wikipedia cold fusion article. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Cold_fusion Pierre thinks the effort is dead. But anyway, Ron Marshall related some exciting news:

Re: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

2007-12-14 Thread OrionWorks
Richard sez: Been reading this thread with interest at the views expressed. Anyone care to expound on the impact of another component CULTURE. What role does culture play in the grand scheme of things? Richard In certain cultures if a woman has sex outside the sanctity of marriage she

Re: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

2007-12-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jeff Fink wrote: Is it culture that allowed western Europe/America to develop such incredible technology while all previous insipient techno societies such as China and Egypt failed to mature technically? I think this is a misleading question. The sum total of human knowledge has

RE: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

2007-12-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jeff Fink wrote: Is it culture that allowed western Europe/America to develop such incredible technology while all previous insipient techno societies such as China and Egypt failed to mature technically? Jared Diamond says that geography has a lot to do with in, in his fascinating book

[Vo]:You have to have an invitation to participate in knol

2007-12-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
It turns out knol is by invitation only, at present. I sent a message here, bucking for an invitation: http://www.google.com/press/index.html Message as follows: My name is Jed Rothwell. I am the librarian here: http://lenr-canr.org/ This site is a library o papers about cold fusion -- the

Re: [Vo]:You have to have an invitation to participate in knol

2007-12-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: It turns out knol is by invitation only, at present. I sent a message here, bucking for an invitation: http://www.google.com/press/index.html This is their general contact address which must get thousands of messages a day. They will probably ignore my message. If anyone here has

Re: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

2007-12-14 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: In certain cultures if a woman has sex outside the sanctity of marriage she can be stoned to death. Meanwhile, the male gets away to spread his seed amongst other females - who may also eventually suffer the same fate. In other cultures the same activity is more

Re: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

2007-12-14 Thread leaking pen
jack, again, i think that these issues, things that would have killed people at young ages, even if through no other method than preventing them from working and causing them to die of starvation, paupers, are being prevented today. which is why we see them more and more. On 12/14/07, Taylor J.

Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

2007-12-14 Thread leaking pen
Indeed, to me, evolution means change to deal with the environment. It makes me wonder, as we largely control our environment these days, some of these evolutionary changes are in response to our own actions. does that make us a self evolving species? as for the selective breeding, we should

Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

2007-12-14 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
Hah! Few people are paid to think... at least not in the way you and I define thinking. That's another story. Somebody took me to task (mildly for a change) for saying that humans are not necessarily improving... But when the word evolution is used, it implies that improvement is in the

Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

2007-12-14 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
LOL I empathize... in all respects. Does that make us a self-evolving species? I dunno. Depending on your standpoint, the whole thing could be meaningless. For example, if you know something about the Dalai Lama's background, where would you place him in the species? P. - Original

[Vo]:This may be a blessing in disguise

2007-12-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Few details about Google Knol have been released, but knowing Google I expect it will be excellent software and it will soon be competitive with Wikipedia. We may not be invited quickly, but I expect we will be in a few months. This action by the skeptics may prove to be a blessing in disguise:

Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

2007-12-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Crummy night -- we just had a layoff at work (I made the cut but some very good people didn't). So the tone of this may be a little downbeat. PHILIP WINESTONE wrote: LOL I empathize... in all respects. Does that make us a self-evolving species? I dunno. Humans evolving -- hah. Let's

Re: [Vo]:This may be a blessing in disguise

2007-12-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ed Storms wrote me a not saying we should not re-hash stale debates in the Knol article, and we should not try to make the skeptics case for them, because that's like trying to make the case for the Flat Earth Society. I agree, but that is not quite what I had in mind. My response to Ed -- I

[Vo]:Re: Negative Ion Burn on CRTs or Negative Muon Burn?

2007-12-14 Thread Frederick Sparber
US 4,213,663 1980 RCA This would be RCA Lancaster (I was there several times in the late 1960s) near Thermacore. Positive Ion Bombardment of the Cathode could shake out Metastable Negative Muons. Literature I've had for over 54 years shows/quotes uncertainty on it being O2- or Cl- Ions.

Re: [Vo]:This may be a blessing in disguise

2007-12-14 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed Rothwell wrote: Ed Storms wrote me a not saying we should not re-hash stale debates in the Knol article, and we should not try to make the skeptics case for them, because that's like trying to make the case for the Flat Earth Society. I agree, but that is not quite what I had in mind.