Re: [Vo]:In the Limelight

2008-06-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny, how time flies (When you're having Fun) Time's fun when you're havin' flies. Kermit

[Vo]:Peter Fimmel

2008-06-08 Thread Jones Beene
In pursuit of lime-green hydrinos and other eco-flashes, I took a few hours last evening to scour the web for relevant exotic information which is currently not on the LENR-CANR website. Often there are obvious reasons why relevant information to LENR is NOT found there (except for the case of

[Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Ed Storms wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008: This approach has been applied repeatedly with the same outcome. For example, during the cold war, Russia made simple and cheap reactors that powered their satellites. We, on the other hand, tried to make a perfect reactor that totally failed. As a result, we

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Hi Jack, You are right. The oil gang has benefited from Iraq. However, this benefit is temporary, as I'm sure they must realize. Meanwhile, decisions have set in motion that will eventually lead to their demise as well as a situation that no one wants. For example, all kinds of oil saving

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-08 Thread thomas malloy
R C Macaulay wrote: Thanks for bringing Sai Baba back to my attention, Ed. How foolish of Money could not be a problem for a miracle worker, of course -- it takes only the slightest ability to affect the laws of chance, or the teeniest ability to predict the future, to allow one to amass

[Vo]:MAPLE and LENR?

2008-06-08 Thread Harry Veeder
The Multipurpose Applied Physics Lattice Experiment reactor was meant to produce medical isotopes. For safety reasons MAPLE was designed to have a negative power coefficient but it has been plagued by an unexpected positive power coefficient for years. (The project was terminated in May). Is it

[Vo]:Diagram of MAPLE

2008-06-08 Thread Harry Veeder
This site has a cross section of MAPLE but unfortunately the low resolution of the image means some of the labels are hard to read. http://www.nuclearfaq.ca/cnf_sectionH.htm Harry

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
That's funny Ed, I thought I saw President Bush holding hands with a Saudi person some time ago, and I heard that his dad was fundamentally owned by a bunch of these Saudi people all controlling the world's oil flows. I must have been either mistaken or blind... These must have been Mossad

[Vo]:Arata's results really are astounding

2008-06-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have had some complaints about Arata's paper and presentation. The paper lacks details such as the method of calibration. However, we should not overlook the fact that this is an astounding accomplishment, and even without a calibration it is obviously producing stable heat far beyond the

[Vo]:Groups doing the wrong experiment in 1989 and 1990

2008-06-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Groups doing the wrong experiment in 1989 and 1990 Here is a list of U.S. and Canadian research groups that published papers in 1989 and 1990 describing cold fusion experiments in which they looked for neutrons, particles or x-rays only, without looking for excess heat or tritium, and

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: The third possibility, which I favor, is that the Bush gang is so incompetent and so under the domination of Israel . . . That is outrageous anti-Semitic crap. The Bush administration has done more to harm Israel than any other in U.S. history. I will grant they did not

Re: [Vo]:Arata's results really are astounding

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree with Jed, the data show some extra heat. However, I find this approach to be very sad. Arata had a chance to design the experiment so that the doubts and speculation could have been significantly reduced. He could have, without much extra effort, made the demonstration professional and

FW: [Vo]:MAPLE and LENR?

2008-06-08 Thread Harry Veeder
Hello Harry, I sent a response to your message (it is appended). I get an ACCESS DENIED message when sending to vortex-l, [EMAIL PROTECTED], or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could you post this for me? Thanks. On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: [snip] For safety reasons, the reactors

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed, you have bought into the logic that Israel can not be criticized without being anti-Semitic. In fact, even many Jews are unhappy by the policies of Israel. Critiquing the policy of Israel is no more being anti-Semitic than critiquing Bush is being anti-American. As for the US harming

[Vo]:French leave (was Re: Peter Fimmel)

2008-06-08 Thread Michel Jullian
Still here Jones, trying to keep up with the numerous, lengthy and not always relevant posts :) BTW, the equivalent of taking a French leave in French is filer à l'anglaise, same reciprocal (mis?)-attribution phenomenon as French letter and capote anglaise ;-) Talking about misattributions,

Re: [Vo]:Arata's results really are astounding

2008-06-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: I agree with Jed, the data show some extra heat. However, I find this approach to be very sad. Arata had a chance to design the experiment so that the doubts and speculation could have been significantly reduced. Very true! I do not understand why he has done such

[Vo]:Fw: vortex engineer

2008-06-08 Thread Nick Palmer
This private message got returned to me so I thought I'd post it on to Vortex... - Original Message - From: Nick Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: R C Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:20 PM Subject: vortex engineer Hi Richard - I thought you may be

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Well, Philip, you did see Bush holding hands with the Saudi king. He was trying to get the Saudi to pump more oil, which they refused to do. However, I see no conflict with playing nice with the Saudi and supporting everything the Israeli government wants. One is done for money and the other

[Vo]:J.K. Rowling's graduation address to Harvard

2008-06-08 Thread OrionWorks
J.K. Rowling's graduation address to Harvard. Some of us may find it worth the time to read: http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2008/06.05/99-rowlingspeech.html http://tinyurl.com/63dvc3 Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.Zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread OrionWorks
Philip recently sed: I thought I saw President Bush holding hands with a Saudi person some time ago, ... and ed recently sed: Well, Philip, you did see Bush holding hands with the Saudi king. He was trying to get the Saudi to pump more oil, which they refused to do. However, I see no

Re: [Vo]:J.K. Rowling's graduation address to Harvard

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks Steven, that is indeed worth reading. Ed OrionWorks wrote: J.K. Rowling's graduation address to Harvard. Some of us may find it worth the time to read: http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2008/06.05/99-rowlingspeech.html http://tinyurl.com/63dvc3 Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson

Re: [Vo]:Arata's results really are astounding

2008-06-08 Thread OrionWorks
Jed Rothwell said: I do not think that a 1°C temperature difference is a small effect. Most CF researchers would be thrilled to have such a large temperature difference. Also, the ambient room temperature is very stable. I must ask a question that exposes my ignorance: I suspect many who

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
I personally don't like the idea of playing nice with people whose greatest wish is to cut my throat. The leader of the greatest and most benevolent country in the world (I didn't say it was perfect) has to make nice to people who by their teachings precipitated the 9/11 disaster, and who

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
Steven, I can understand. I was in Pakistan a few years ago doing engineering work (fortunately I wasn't a journalist), and I saw many men holding hands. S'OK... as kids we all held our fathers' hands... However - and I don't want to read too much into this - this was done in America, in the

[Vo]:Re: Fw: vortex engineer

2008-06-08 Thread Michel Jullian
Nice! That Australian guy achieved significantly quieter and (logically) more energy efficient fan and pump blades, which we will find implemented in next year's computer fans. By means of clever equations? No, by moulding his emptying bathtub's vortex! In other words by making good use of

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
I don't like the situation either, Philip. However, when a nation has the oil we need, it is apparently easy to be nice. If not, we have to pay an even greater price for our principles. This is actually the way the world works these days. In the past, the US called the shots. Increasingly, the

Re: [Vo]:Arata's results really are astounding

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Good question. The significance of 1 degree depends on how much insulation is on the cell and how well the thermocouples were calibrated. If the cell is well insulated, 1 degree would represent very little extra power. Since we don't have any information about either, the significance is

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fw: vortex engineer

2008-06-08 Thread Esa Ruoho
paxscientific, meet viktor schauberger compilation of articles with quotes from harman's stuff. http://merlib.org/node/4942 2008/6/9 Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nice! That Australian guy achieved significantly quieter and (logically) more energy efficient fan and pump blades, which we

Re: [Vo]:Arata's results really are astounding

2008-06-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
[Do not reply directly] Edmund Storms wrote: Good question. The significance of 1 degree depends on how much insulation is on the cell and how well the thermocouples were calibrated. If the cell is well insulated, 1 degree would represent very little extra power. Since we don't have any