So, you have a free energy system and want to tell the world. Do you
put an ad on CNN or Fox News? No, you choose Al Jazerra:
http://www.youtube.com/user/KaiBSteornForum#p/a/u/0/XcNwc-GhzIs
About 50 seconds into the news cast. They also had an ad on the web page.
Ahem. Is this the real
On 12/18/2009 01:34 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
Rick always writes what he means and means what he says. He's the guy
who sells the Bedini kits, there's a 10 coil monopole kit that they
have released, for instance. http://rpmgt.org/order.html
The Bedini Monopole Energizer kit was built by a friend
On 12/18/2009 08:46 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
So, you have a free energy system and want to tell the world. Do you
put an ad on CNN or Fox News? No, you choose Al Jazerra:
http://www.youtube.com/user/KaiBSteornForum#p/a/u/0/XcNwc-GhzIs
That is a very strange ad.
It consists almost
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:23 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
By the way, I just noticed out at Steorn's home page that they have closed
the live stream to VIEW 2.
On the Village of the Banned forum, there always seems to be someone
watching and logging
The news that Steorn is advertising their own failure on Al Jazerra
is mind boggling.
What to make of this? Are these people extremely clever and using
reverse psychology? Or are they what they appear to be: stupid,
incoherent, and flapping around trying one scheme after another, like
a
Rick sez:
I can't wait until the detection threshold comes down - like to the level of
moons around these big planets. Bet that's where the action is as long as
the system is in the liquid water zone.
I agree with this hypothesis. I've always felt that a lot of the real
action could very well
Terry sez:
By the way, I just noticed out at Steorn's home page that they have closed
the live stream to VIEW 2.
On the Village of the Banned forum, there always seems to be someone
watching and logging when the cameras are off or when Tachoman shows
up to do maintenance on the machines.
According to one of my latest Google news alerts Steorn just made CNN
news. However, I can't seem to find the link anywhere on cnn's web
site.
Does anyone know anything about this?
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
I take it Tachoman must be the same dark haired individual I've
often witnessed hovering about the Orbo contraption.
Yes, with the T-shirt which reads:
Perpetual Motion Machine Winder
(from the
At 12:11 AM 12/17/2009, William Beaty wrote:
7. It's NOT the company's number one goal to prove that the invention is
real. The scam company seems to have no goal besides creating an aura of
attractive secrets: secrets which will only be revealed to an in-group
of superior blue-blooded
The news that Steorn is advertising their own failure on Al Jazerra is
mind boggling.
What to make of this? Are these people extremely clever and using
reverse psychology? Or are they what they appear to be: stupid,
incoherent, and flapping around trying one scheme after another, like a
Chris Zell wrote:
I understand that the rejection of reality in the case of the
Wrights went to astounding extremes. Newspapers spoke of their
efforts as a hoax while any reporter could simply wander down to the
area where they were testing and watch them fly.
Yup. In the summer of 1904
From Stephen Lawrence
...
... But he's [MADOFF] **NOT** held up as an example of a
successful con artist, because he (a) had no exit strategy, ...
Ok, then then what's Steorn's exit strategy?
The whole Storn group (at the correct strategic moment) buys
themselves one-way tickets to the
At 12:23 AM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
They are charging for getting a look at the technology, and, I'm
sure, this comes with heavy NDAs,
Hey. Is charging to get a look at technology a dead givaway for an FE
con game? In other words, what other
Mauro wrote:
maybe they are trying to make alternative energy INVESTORS to look like fools,
and make them spend
their money in a bogus project, so they don't invest it in a real one, and are
afraid to invest in
another in the future.
Which would give them more time to perfect the technology
At 09:58 AM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
Steven Krivit wrote:
I'm sure Shanahan is finding immeasurable entertainment in these
messages. Particularly your comment about certified fruitcake.
It is the season, though, isn't it?
Absolutely! And for the record, I'm crazy about fruitcake,
especially
Poser:
Is Arata/Zhang Pycnodeuterium (high density accumulations of deuterium)
similar to what Hora and Miley describe as Deutron Clusters ?
My answer: yes
Poser #2,
Is the excursion of the deuteron electron to levels below ground state
within a matrix a precondition for the formation of
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Poser:
Is Arata/Zhang Pycnodeuterium (high density accumulations of deuterium)
similar to what Hora and Miley describe as Deutron Clusters ?
Shoulder to Shoulder with Chicea:
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/images/MizunoBook.jpg
At one time, these images were seen by many to appear more like an
implosion-rebound of many particles, or at least as being way too mild to be
high energy fusion, and
iPoni sent dis message. Esa Ruoho wrote it.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Press Steorn pr...@steorn.com
Date: 18. joulukuuta 2009 20.33.14 UTC+2.00
To: ste...@listserv.steorn.com
Subject: Orbo Technology Update
Reply-To: pr...@steorn.com
Orbo Technology Update
Steorn invites you to
I am contacting Lenz Law Enforcement and ratting out Sean McCarthy. :-)
Terry
At 10:10 PM 12/17/2009, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
Abd remarks,
[...]
What I do claim is that the Steorn situation bears very strong marks
of being a con, a fairly sophisticated one, where they are
deliberately setting up demonstrations with obvious flaws, which they
can then
From Abd:
...
Yet it appears to be working, Steven. You are making
assumptions about how they will proceed, and, also,
assumptions about what is involved in the NDAs.
Of course I'm making lots of assumptions. Some of them may even
stretch the sensibilities of Occam's Razor. Guilty as
At 11:55 AM 12/18/2009, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
Well, as Deep Throat sed: Follow the money.
What's the payoff.
Smuggling donkeys.
While this scam is running, do you have any idea what salaries Steorn
executives are drawing? Do you know if any payments are being made to
At 11:20 AM 12/18/2009, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
From Stephen Lawrence
... But he's [MADOFF] **NOT** held up as an example of a
successful con artist, because he (a) had no exit strategy, ...
Ok, then then what's Steorn's exit strategy?
I certainly don't know for sure. Depends
On 12/18/2009 03:01 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 09:39 AM 12/18/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 12/18/2009 08:46 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
So, you have a free energy system and want to tell the world. Do you
put an ad on CNN or Fox News? No, you choose Al Jazerra:
Terry Blanton wrote:
Actually, this [Mizuno Image] looks remarkably similar to the
polycarbonate triple tracks.
Good point ... except the two scales are way-off, but I need to double check
on that. I also have some additional input to follow-up on, which suggests
this image does not represent
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
You're suggesting it's a Ponzi scheme? So are they paying off early
investors? I wasn't aware of any evidence to that effect -- I was aware of
no evidence that they'd paid off *any* of their investors.
Likely not.
On 12/18/2009 12:06 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote:
You maintain this business as long as you can, and when things are
starting to get murky(really murky) and profits are falling, you
suddenly fire all your employeess, close offices, and disappear in your
private jet, to have a well deserved recess in
Terry sez:
I am contacting Lenz Law Enforcement and ratting out Sean McCarthy. :-)
Mongo plans on watching, from a safe distance.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
On 12/18/2009 10:58 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
At this point we need the academics. We should ignore the critics. The
Wrights should have! They should have dealt with the British War Office
instead of the U.S. War Department, because the British understood and
appreciated what they had
From Stephen Lawrence:
... Jed Rothwell wrote:
At this point we need the academics. We should ignore the critics. The
Wrights should have! They should have dealt with the British War Office
instead of the U.S. War Department, because the British understood and
appreciated what they had
On 12/18/2009 01:53 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 10:10 PM 12/17/2009, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
When do they get to eat their cake? More to the point, how can they
get to
the cake without getting the heads cut off?
They are already eating the cake, for some years
On 12/18/2009 02:31 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 11:02 PM 12/17/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Sounds good. But magicians don't usually start by working to convince
everyone that they are incompetent liars. That's a label nobody wants
to start with.
I have experienced the exact
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
It seems possible that the Wrights went first to the U.S. War
Department specifically because they were U.S. citizens, and did not
feel it would have been appropriate, feasible, right, or (fill in
blank) to sell their technology overseas before the U.S. military
From Stephen Lawrence:
...
... Oh, I agree that Steorn's fate won't be resolved.
Mongo [in a rare moment of pensive self-reflection] tends to disagree.
Mongo want to see a light bulb real soon.
No light bulb soon, Mongo send candygram to Sean.
Light bulb! Light bulb! Light bulb!
Regards
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
BTW, anybody know where Steorn is incorporated?
From:
http://www.steorn.com/about/disclaimer/
Steorn Limited, Unit 18, Docklands Innovation Park, East Wall Rd,
Dublin 3, Ireland, a limited liability company
Frustrated by the refusal of the US Army to take their flying machine
seriously, the Wright Brothers embarked on a different strategy. Simply fly
their craft over various cities and get the public to accept the reality of
flight.. but things got much weirder.
People who witnessed them above
At 12:06 PM 12/18/2009, Mauro Lacy wrote:
You maintain this business as long as you can, and when things are
starting to get murky(really murky) and profits are falling, you
suddenly fire all your employeess, close offices, and disappear in your
private jet, to have a well deserved recess in
Steven V Johnson wrote:
...and out of the other side:
Oh, by the way, if you attempt to market this technology to any
foreign government, we will take an extremely dim view of your
actions. We will be watching you.
They did not say anything like that. The U.S. Army knew that everyone
would
Chris Zell wrote:
When people took Daugerrotypes, they were accused of faking the pictures.
Daguerreotypes?!? Come now. They had fast exposure plates and movie
cameras by 1903. Daguerreotypes were obsolete by the 1860s.
Oh, and there was a war in Europe and for some reason the Huns won.
- Original Message
From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 4:04:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New hypothesis about what Steorn is up to
It's even conceivable that Steorn could ditch the free-energy product and
sink
some
I wrote:
Robert Baden-Powell (the founder of the boy scouts) . . .
Correction. The fellow who founded the boy scouts was another member of the
family.
Here is something interesting from the New York Times, June 6, 1909,
indicating there was concern about what we now call national security,
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