Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread froarty572
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:58:34 -0800 Gibson Elliot Gibson Elliot wrote.. Ether is consumed by mass, that's gravity, a pretty measurable effect in my book! I agree with Tesla's observation but it is incomplete..you can't just eat ether endlessly -you must also expell it. Puthoff's atomic

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/28/2010 08:20 PM, froarty...@comcast.net wrote: Stephen, Thank you for the explanation, I wasn't aware of anything called Lorentz ether theory existed but will be investigating it shortly. At least I am not crazy - someone with chops came to similar conclusion and now I can

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/28/2010 09:03 PM, Chris Zell wrote: Perhaps y'all could enlighten me. I never understood the blanket rejection of 'ether' when radiation resistance is an engineering fact. In the design of RF antennas, there is a radiation resistance of about 328 ohms. Clearly, something out there

[Vo]:I'll be on the radio this Sat on the west coast

2010-01-29 Thread FZNIDARSIC
Hey tune in to me if you can. I hope that I do well. snip Frank, I think we'll have a fascinating show this Saturday morning! The show starts at 10am PT, 1pm ET. Bill at Achieve Radio will be giving you a call at just before the show starts. Bill

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 01/28/2010 07:26 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 01/28/2010 03:05 PM, froarty...@comcast.net wrote: I have a problem with the MM experiment. They assume an aether that moves with respect to space yet SR uses a right triangle rule where the spatial rate is assumed

Re: [Vo]:We Need An Energy Miracle

2010-01-29 Thread Mike Carrell
Here is my take on Mills' strategy: Among Mills' early investors are two electric utilities, Pacific Corp. and Atlatic City Electric (now Connective). The latter once employed Peter Jansson as a teachnical scout for promising future investments. Jansson recommeded BLP; his Master's thesis was

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/29/2010 10:19 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote: That's simply not true. Read the papers I've pointed out. Miller consistently obtained fringe shifts, Yes, Miller was the only one who got a drift result. Nobody has replicated his results. A careful modern analysis of Miller's results indicates

[Vo]:Info on my radio appearence tomorrow 1 PM EDT

2010-01-29 Thread FZNIDARSIC
Tune in tomorrow at 1 PM EDT. It will be on the WEB here _http://www.achieveradio.com/vortex-progressive-tech/index.php_ (http://www.achieveradio.com/vortex-progressive-tech/index.php) about the show _http://www.achieveradio.com/vortex-progressive-tech/_

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 01/29/2010 10:19 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote: That's simply not true. Read the papers I've pointed out. Miller consistently obtained fringe shifts, Yes, Miller was the only one who got a drift result. Nobody has replicated his results. Miller replicated M M results, with more precision.

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/29/2010 12:07 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: I could present a gedanken experiment (a very simple experiment indeed) to clearly show what I mean by reality is not relative, but I'll not do that. Your choice. You understand what you mean, you could explain it, but you won't. End of

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread Gibson Elliot
Mauro,   Well, I didn't expect that... um... thanks for the sympathetic ear in a rather dismissive world. I'm actually touched, which I didn't expect. Been feeling a bit jaded lately, I guess, I needed that.   I will take some time in the very near future and write up a brief summarizing   my

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 01/29/2010 12:07 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: I could present a gedanken experiment (a very simple experiment indeed) to clearly show what I mean by reality is not relative, but I'll not do that. Your choice. You understand what you mean, you could explain it, but you won't. I don't have

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/29/2010 12:35 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 01/29/2010 12:07 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: I could present a gedanken experiment (a very simple experiment indeed) to clearly show what I mean by reality is not relative, but I'll not do that. Your choice. You understand what you mean, you

Re: [Vo]:Michaelson Morely vs V^2/C^2

2010-01-29 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 01/29/2010 12:35 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 01/29/2010 12:07 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: I could present a gedanken experiment (a very simple experiment indeed) to clearly show what I mean by reality is not relative, but I'll not do that. Your choice. You understand what you mean, you

Re: [Vo]:new Infinite Energy combustion engine using inert gases

2010-01-29 Thread mixent
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:19:56 -0500: Hi, [snip] http://www.rohnermachine.com/ http://www.pappengine.com/ [snip] Thanks for these, I was unaware of the Rohner involvement. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html

Re: [Vo]:new Infinite Energy combustion engine using inert gases

2010-01-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/29/2010 04:53 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:19:56 -0500: Hi, [snip] http://www.rohnermachine.com/ http://www.pappengine.com/ [snip] Thanks for these, I was unaware of the Rohner involvement. Yeah, I was surprised

Re: [Vo]:new Infinite Energy combustion engine using inert gases

2010-01-29 Thread Francis X Roarty
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:15:43 -0800 Mike Carrell said If you want an understanding of the Papp engine, **study** the work of Randell Mills and the evolution of Balcklight Power. The idea of anengine running off nolble gases seems absurd, but argon, helium and water vapor can for a catalutic

Re: [Vo]:Contropedia

2010-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry wrote: An encyclopedia can either give a biased answer/opinion/pov/conclusion that the reader should ignore, or give no answer/opinion/pov/conclusion presenting all sides letting reader choose. I do not believe it is possible for anyone to have an unbiased point of view, or even to

Re: [Vo]:radio interview..its is really good...take a minute to look at it.

2010-01-29 Thread FZNIDARSIC
It is the dimension of a BOSE condensate. A Bose condensate is a macro atom. The electrons are adjoined within the condensate. The nucleons are adjoined by vibration. A classical condition exists where the electronic velocity = the nuclear velocity What is exposed. The nuclear