Re: [Vo]:Sci Am Attacks Cold Fusion yet again

2013-06-24 Thread Alain Sepeda
quite classic to use LENR as a bashing tool. see that article that claim EmDrive is 21th century cold fusion http://johncostella.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/the-emdrive-the-cold-fusion-of-the-21st-century/ I would like, but I have few hope (unlike LENR which is experimental science, EmDrive is theory

Re: [Vo]:Passive High Temperature Convective Thermal Control

2013-06-24 Thread James Bowery
No the LFTR passive control to which I refer is the fact that when the power load on the reactor lowers, the temperature rises in the liquid fluoride thorium salt which, in turn, causes it to expand. Since the salt is at critical mass, any expansion takes it below criticality which nonlinearly low

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: Another important parameter would be the energy. Perhaps if you multiplied > the normal d+d cross sections by the curve above you would get a suitable > function for σ(E,r). > I take that back. The distance parameter (r) already implicitly takes deuteron energy into account, since the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: It seems like the cross section would drop off with the square of the > distance from the spectator nucleus. Perhaps something like this: > > σ(r) = 1/(1 + A*r^2), > > where A is a constant that is empirically determined; e.g., > > http://i.imgur.com/eWu4K1i.jpg > Another import

Re: [Vo]:Passive High Temperature Convective Thermal Control

2013-06-24 Thread Axil Axil
*rather the issue is the _control_ of that variance.* As I understand your intent, your interest is the passive control of the variance. It seems to me, that if there is a mechanism of parameter control in the operation of the reactor, control of that parameter can be either active or passive or

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:56 PM, wrote: How far away does another nucleus have to be before the influence has > dwindled > to the point that it can no longer share in the momentum of the nuclear > reaction? > > According to Ron, a close nucleus can share, and according to you, one far > away > ca

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread David Roberson
I understand what you mean Robin. It does seem strange that the force can originate in a field where the momentum must be shared. In the cases I used for my thought experiments the source is so far removed that it is apparent that the action occurs long before a signal can reach the source pa

Re: [Vo]:Passive High Temperature Convective Thermal Control

2013-06-24 Thread James Bowery
First of all, variable conductance is not to the point. The issue is not whether one can vary the conductance or anything else -- rather the issue is the _control_ of that variance. Secondly, the technology you describe involves a solid phase. My request was for a cite of prior art for the techn

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:09:01 -0400 (EDT): Hi Dave, [snip] I agree with what you are saying, I'm just having a hard time making use of it to explain (the lack of) momentum sharing. >If you take an extreme example it makes the process clear. Suppose there >e

[Vo]:Sci Am Attacks Cold Fusion yet again

2013-06-24 Thread David Roberson
I was just reading the July 2013 addition of Scientific American and was dismayed by a negative reference to cold fusion hidden within one of the articles. The title of the article is "In Search of a Mind-Reading Machine" and at the very end of the 5th paragraph is a sentence that compares the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sun, 23 Jun 2013 16:05:24 -0700: Hi, [snip] >On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 3:50 PM, wrote: > >...so what is the boundary condition? I.e. when does it happen, and when >> not? >> How strong does the force have to be? >> >Maybe I'm misunderstanding a subtlety of your

[Vo]:Focardi and Rubbia photo 1986

2013-06-24 Thread H Veeder
This photo https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201418697338532&set=gm.678802838802290&type=1&theater was posted in the facebook group Cold Fusion, LENR and Andrea Rossi BTW, a month or so ago Carlo Rubbia became a member of this group. So far he

[Vo]:It would be cool to use a portable generator

2013-06-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > So, let's assume we have a test protocol such that: >> > >> > 1. The tamper-proof measuring system is taken to the lab and plugged in >> and may not be unplugged. >> > > A modern watt meter IS a tamper-proof measuring system. As I mentioned, > they are made with integrated circuits the

Re: [Vo]:Large Excess heat production in Ni-H systems (Focardi et al, 1998)

2013-06-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
H Veeder wrote: > Every knows about it, is not the same as every one has read it. > Everyone talked about it! Piantelli rubs some people the wrong way. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Large Excess heat production in Ni-H systems (Focardi et al, 1998)

2013-06-24 Thread H Veeder
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > H Veeder wrote: > >> This is Focardi's and Piantelli's improved experiment from the fall >> of 1996 (published in 1998) which seems to have largely been over looked by >> the Pd-D community. >> > It is not overlooked. Everyone knows about i

Re: [Vo]:Large Excess heat production in Ni-H systems (Focardi et al, 1998)

2013-06-24 Thread Axil Axil
The surface area of the powder is important, but it may be the magnetic nature of the nickel that is a critical factor in LENR. When the temperature of nickel exceeds its curie temperature, the global magnetic property of the metal breaks down by heat induced formation of nano-scopic areas of magn

Re: [Vo]:A simple question, take 2

2013-06-24 Thread John Berry
BTW Further observing my own ability to feel, I arch my fingers back, beyond merely straight. This increases sensation. What I wonder is if this is amplifying the sensation that is already there from such a hand gesture. It seems from my research that aetheric energy acts in a manner to amplify an

Re: [Vo]:Large Excess heat production in Ni-H systems (Focardi et al, 1998)

2013-06-24 Thread David Roberson
Thanks Harry for the refresher in history. When I read this report it screams out that Rossi has something real and also why powdered nickel is such a good idea. I wonder why the earlier pioneers did not try powder to increase the surface area of the device? Rossi seems to have read the card

Re: [Vo]:Scientism, what my readers have answered

2013-06-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > *Nuclear and fossil fuels, undercut wind energy through grid problems, > intermittency, high energy invested again energy gain.* > Also birds. The coal industry claims that wind turbines kill birds. That is ridiculous because turbines kill very few birds, whereas coal smoke not

Re: [Vo]:A simple question, take 2

2013-06-24 Thread John Berry
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:21 AM, David L Babcock wrote: > My hand can easily feel the radiant heat from my flat screen. This is > stronger where whiter (brighter?). And so, yes I "felt something". (Did > not try other body places, did not notice other sensations.) > Well then you are very sens

Re: [Vo]:Scientism, what my readers have answered

2013-06-24 Thread Axil Axil
*There is a long standing century’s long war staring with whale oil vs. kerosene going on between various segments of the energy market. Each segment has a list of propaganda weapons that it uses to undercut its competition. In the end, it all boils down to market share and money. * * * *The foss

Re: [Vo]:Large Excess heat production in Ni-H systems (Focardi et al, 1998)

2013-06-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
H Veeder wrote: > This is Focardi's and Piantelli's improved experiment from the fall > of 1996 (published in 1998) which seems to have largely been over looked by > the Pd-D community. > It is not overlooked. Everyone knows about it. But it could not be replicated, and some people question the

Re: [Vo]:OT: More Cheese Power?

2013-06-24 Thread Alain Sepeda
you should really read Antifragile. you describe the inventor, the entrepreneur, the tinkerers, the practitioners that Taleb judge as the real source of invention and progress... and the fact that 99% of they project fails, sometime with their inventor, make the process extremely efficient... I've

[Vo]:Large Excess heat production in Ni-H systems (Focardi et al, 1998)

2013-06-24 Thread H Veeder
This is Focardi's and Piantelli's improved experiment from the fall of 1996 (published in 1998) which seems to have largely been over looked by the Pd-D community. What usually gets mentioned is their earlier experiment from 1994 and CERN's subsequent replication which did not find excess heat. It

[Vo]:Scientism, what my readers have answered

2013-06-24 Thread Peter Gluck
and what have I understood from the answers. It is about LENR and scientism, the essence is that scientism can ignore me because I am still isolated and harmless to the dominant ideas. I am patient and stubborn but at my age patience has to be interpreted in special ways. Independently from what

Re: [Vo]:A simple question, take 2

2013-06-24 Thread David L Babcock
My hand can easily feel the radiant heat from my flat screen. This is stronger where whiter (brighter?). And so, yes I "felt something". (Did not try other body places, did not notice other sensations.) If I hypothesize that the radiant thermal signal is out-shouting the "real" signal, then

Re: [Vo]:OT: More Cheese Power?

2013-06-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > It makes no sense that an extremely dedicated work-a-holic inventor who has > invested a decade of intensive labor into optimizing an invention (and BTW > it is an invention that was basically proved as being real in 1992 by > Thermacore) . . . I agree! About Rossi and The

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread Axil Axil
The blue light might not be coming from electrons orbiting a nucleus, but rather electrons caught in a soliton vortex. It seems to me that the determination of what is really causing the circular motion of the electrons is difficult to come up with. I wonder if such electrons orbiting in a vo

RE: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Jones, I was speaking of IR affecting the Ni surface through the SS or Silicon Carbide tube - where the hi Q of the geometry could be slaved to PWM driving the heaters - counting on a weak Faraday reactor cage the plasmons would slowly synchronize like the metronome and then subsequentl

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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread Axil Axil
I wonder if the frequency of the light in the hot spot is about the same as is seen in the deep blue light coming from *sonoluminescence.* I wonder if Miles has not guessed correctly at the proper source and cause of the blue light. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Roarty, Francis X < francis.x.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread David Roberson
I have a strong suspicion that the plasmon resonances can be tuned by the surface features. There also may be interactions with the underlying atoms of the surface as well since atom resonances possess very high frequency stability and "Q". We may discover that real magic occurs when the two

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, I think the frequency of the light is a property of the fractional state but the plasmon resonance is causing larger and larger populations of fractional molecules to disassociate and recombine in the cavity, the end effect on measurement devices that average the spectrum from the bulk gas

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread Axil Axil
*I know the resistive IR is much lower than the anomalous spectrum reported by Mills but if it causes the plasmons in the active material to resonate at a higher harmonic this would bring it much closer.* The frequency of light in the hot spot is changed from infrared to the color blue in the ran

RE: [Vo]:OT: More Cheese Power?

2013-06-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jones' nails it with this: "Look at the balance of this equation to Humanity ... the risk/reward ratio is so skewed that the efforts of skeptics is just wrong if they delay progress by a day. They do not have to actually help - simply not impeding progress is sufficient. Silly. Brain-dead. Wrong. Y

Re: [Vo]:OT: More Cheese Power?

2013-06-24 Thread Ron Wormus
Pretty cool you can kind of see the harness under his jacket (squared shoulder).  I expect the hand on the bus is metal brace fabricated to look like a real hand and connects into a harness system under his hoodie --On Monday, June 24, 2013 3:01 PM +0200 Charles Francis wrote: http://www.i

RE: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Roarty, Francis X > I also wonder if resonance can occur between fractional states where f/h2 disassociates and recombines in synch with the plasmon resonance and that photons emitted from these fractional state hydrogen is responsible for the spectrum spread ...

RE: [Vo]:OT: More Cheese Power?

2013-06-24 Thread Jones Beene
This whole digression and flight of fancy into framing Rossi as part magician and part scammer is not just wrong - it is a sick embarrassment that could cost Society dearly. Sure - it might be possible for Rossi to disguise a hidden power source, or any number of cheesy tricks, or to bring in a re

Re: [Vo]:A simple question, take 2

2013-06-24 Thread John Berry
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:14 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Hi John, > > ** ** > > I think the problem is the “audience” you have chosen is one that is > presently looking hard for substantive physical effects, especially in > light of the criticism of LENR (where intuition has met with strong > c

RE: [Vo]:The Unnatural Universe

2013-06-24 Thread Chris Zell
Thank you! I have long felt that there is too much theology mixed into physics that goes unnoticed and unchallenged. Feyerabend.. Blessed Be His Name. Reading that page I came across: "In peril is the notion of "naturalness," Albert Einstein's dream that the

RE: [Vo]:A simple question, take 2

2013-06-24 Thread Jones Beene
Hi John, I think the problem is the "audience" you have chosen is one that is presently looking hard for substantive physical effects, especially in light of the criticism of LENR (where intuition has met with strong challenges) - yet what these images offer is more suggestive than substantive.

[Vo]:OT: More Cheese Power?

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Francis
http://www.itn.co.uk/And%20Finally/78885/dynamo-levitates-on-the-side-of-a-d ouble-decker-bus

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
I know the resistive IR is much lower than the anomalous spectrum reported by Mills but if it causes the plasmons in the active material to resonate at a higher harmonic this would bring it much closer. I also wonder about the applicability of spectrum measurements to the active environm

[Vo]:A simple question, take 2

2013-06-24 Thread John Berry
Ok, Maybe no one is ready, since I have had zero testers give results positive or negative. But I want to give this a fresh chance due to apparent technical difficulties the first time, excuse my persistence. http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7185/xens.png http://aethericsciences.net78.net/user