RE: [Vo]:[OT] ten core beliefs that most scientists take for granted

2014-01-09 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Sir William Crookes also showed non-physical like events under strict scientific protocols: http://www.atisma.com/spiritart/crookes.htm Wow, it just occurred to me that Rossi's secret ingredient surely is Ectoplasm. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US From: leaking pen

Re: [Vo]:Dr. George Hody from 1976 PLATO Notes

2014-01-09 Thread Terry Blanton
You went to school with mary yugo? On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:11 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: --- response 8 05/17/76 14.10 hody med Because it IS fun to argue in notes

Re: [Vo]:[OT] ten core beliefs that most scientists take for granted

2014-01-09 Thread Alain Sepeda
good remarks. Unlike some critics against mainstream scientist, my main feeling is that many scientists share with pseudo-scientists a love for theory, teleology, coherence, and when facing reality, serendipity, anomalies, they refuse to accept it. for me scientists are not enough materialist,

[Vo]:Energy sector employment and cold fusion

2014-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
When I wrote my book in 2004, I said that the energy sector has roughly 1.2 million workers. See chapter 20 table 20.1. Let's have another look at the numbers. Employment in fossil fuel has not changed much since 2004. The number of people employed in alternative energy such as wind energy has

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread a.ashfield
Jed wrote. The extreme temperature in both hemispheres are caused by global warming. Many people opposed to climatology fail to realize that. Jed, this is a figment of post normal science. There is absolutely no proof for what you say and I have been following it for years. Even the UK Met

Re: [Vo]:Energy sector employment and cold fusion

2014-01-09 Thread Axil Axil
With the advent of almost free energy, food could be produced in the center of cities using robots and industrial scale bioengineering and cloning. This eliminates railroads, farm equipment production and sales, trucking, and associated infrastructure maintenance. Control of element

Re: [Vo]:Energy sector employment and cold fusion

2014-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
I left out this category from the BLS Table B-1a: Support activities for oil and gas operations, 303,000 people. Roughly 20% of oil is used for feedstock, for things like plastics and lubricants, so there will still be some employment in that sector. The market for oil feedstock will not vanish

[Vo]:What the future will bring.

2014-01-09 Thread Axil Axil
In the intermediate term, when the nuclear mechanisms of cold fusion are discovered and eventually mastered, the precision transmutation of elements on demand will be as valuable as or more valuable than the production of energy from cold fusion. The common elements on the earth surface can be

Re: [Vo]:Energy sector employment and cold fusion

2014-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: With the advent of almost free energy, food could be produced in the center of cities using robots and industrial scale bioengineering and cloning. . . . Actually, there are plans to do this now, with conventional energy. I expect cold fusion will make it

Re: [Vo]:Energy sector employment and cold fusion

2014-01-09 Thread Alain Sepeda
cold fusion will give buying power to people globally. this buying power won't be reduced by magic, so it will be used either to reduce work effort for the same salary, or to increase consumption of goods, or of service. Globally it will be good, end if well managed it may be good for the

Re: [Vo]:Energy sector employment and cold fusion

2014-01-09 Thread Axil Axil
Further on out in time with the burden and preoccupation of material survival lifted from their shoulders, governments will need to find something of interest for their citizens to do. They could turn to war and conquest as has been often done throughout history to reduce the population. Or they

Re: [Vo]:What the future will bring.

2014-01-09 Thread Foks0904 .
Wasn't this sort of speculation answered by David Nagel at ICCF-18? Pretty sure his opinion was that large-scale transmutation plants/projects were impractical and unlikely based on what we know about transmutation rates at this time. Not saying your wrong, just saying this idea is still in the

Re: [Vo]:What the future will bring.

2014-01-09 Thread Axil Axil
If matter can be transmuted under the control of electromagnetic manipulation; this is highly likely, then ways to produce that EMF and properly direct it will eventually be formulated to affect the nucleus. When we know how a physical mechanism works in detail, it can be engineers to provide a

Re: [Vo]:What the future will bring.

2014-01-09 Thread Foks0904 .
If and only if the reaction rates are commensurate with such an undertaking. Nagel's guess is currently No. Time will tell however. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: If matter can be transmuted under the control of electromagnetic manipulation; this is highly

Re: [Vo]:Energy sector employment and cold fusion

2014-01-09 Thread pagnucco
Alain Sepeda wrote: cold fusion will give buying power to people globally[...] Hopefully so. Maybe low cost fusion (Lockheed 'Skunkworks'), aneutronic fusion (LPP), or thorium reactors will also play a role. the problem is only if - money stay in a closed community... it happened with oil,

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: The extreme temperature in both hemispheres are caused by global warming. Many people opposed to climatology fail to realize that. Jed, this is a figment of post normal science. There is absolutely no proof for what you say and I have been

[Vo]:Mysterious Earthquake Lights Linked to Rift Zones

2014-01-09 Thread H Veeder
Mysterious Earthquake Lights Linked to Rift Zones http://www.weather.com/news/science/mysterious-earthquake-lights-linked-rift-zones-20140107 The team found 65 cases that were well documented from North and South America and Europe. Of those cases, 97 percent seemed to happen at faults within

Re: [Vo]:Mysterious Earthquake Lights Linked to Rift Zones

2014-01-09 Thread mixent
In reply to H Veeder's message of Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:23:02 -0500: Hi, [snip] Mysterious Earthquake Lights Linked to Rift Zones http://www.weather.com/news/science/mysterious-earthquake-lights-linked-rift-zones-20140107 The team found 65 cases that were well documented from North and South

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread mixent
In reply to a.ashfield's message of Thu, 09 Jan 2014 11:26:01 -0500: Hi, [snip] Jed wrote. The extreme temperature in both hemispheres are caused by global warming. Many people opposed to climatology fail to realize that. Jed, this is a figment of post normal science. There is absolutely no

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread David Roberson
There is interesting evidence that cosmic ray induced clouds determine the earth's temperature to a significant degree. The recent weak sun spot activity allowed more rays than usual and hence the colder weather. Let's hope that they return to normal levels so that we do not all freeze and

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread ChemE Stewart
David, Where have you been? we just had the largest set of Sunspots cross the Sun in 10 years. X-Class Flare a couple of days ago and 40-50% chance today. 3 or 4 M-Class flares in the last week and a bunch of proton radiation hit today and they delayed a launch. I think you have it ass

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread David Roberson
Guess I have been sleeping. Actually, I thought that the total cycle was one of the weakest in a number of years. The actual disturnance is caused by the lack of a solar magnetic field instead of the sun spots directly. Have I miss read the fact that the field is tiny and reversing during

Re: [Vo]:What the future will bring.

2014-01-09 Thread Axil Axil
The transmutation rates associated with LeClair's cavitation system is very high. He plans to use cavitation to produce rare elements. It all depends on the engineering and the system design. When there is the will, there will always be a way. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Foks0904 .

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread David Roberson
According to Wiki, this is the weakest cycle since 1906. Dave -Original Message- From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:15 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page David, Where have you been? we just had the largest

Re: [Vo]:What the future will bring.

2014-01-09 Thread David Roberson
What you say seems to be according to past experience. Sometimes there is no good way, but it is too early to make a call on this one. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:22 pm Subject: Re:

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread James Bowery
One may rightly be suspicious of institutional authorities' definition of appeal to authority as logical fallacy due merely to a conflict of interest -- particularly when we have before us the stark raving authoritative denunciation of cold fusion held by 99% of authorities. Toward this end, I

Re: [Vo]:What the future will bring.

2014-01-09 Thread Axil Axil
if it is not impossible and there is enough money in doing it... it will be done On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:25 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: What you say seems to be according to past experience. Sometimes there is no good way, but it is too early to make a call on this one.

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread Chris Zell
I shake my head in wonder at these threats that academics obsess about. While the drum beat of climate change goes on, 53 US Senators have agreed to vote for a resolution to hand over warmaking to Israel and Saudi Arabia and derail any chance of a negotiated peace with Iran. I have never felt

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread Alain Sepeda
in fact it seems more honest and clear. most of climatologist says that today we cannot have an increase of extremevent with so tiny temperature increase... it is wheather, or their model are wrong... It is a bit inconvenient that their fanclub in newspaper propaged scare mongering to gain

Re: [Vo]:Mysterious Earthquake Lights Linked to Rift Zones

2014-01-09 Thread Nigel Dyer
In the recent explanations it has been far from clear to me how the large electric fields that no doubt build up in the rocks can cause ionizing effects in the air some distance above the fault. The explanation would appear to need something like highly directional electromagnetic radiation

Re: [Vo]:Mysterious Earthquake Lights Linked to Rift Zones

2014-01-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Nigel Dyer's message of Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:55:24 +: Hi, [snip] In the recent explanations it has been far from clear to me how the large electric fields that no doubt build up in the rocks can cause ionizing effects in the air some distance above the fault. The explanation

Re: [Vo]:Energy sector employment and cold fusion

2014-01-09 Thread Lennart Thornros
I agree with that there will be less demand for physical labor. There will also be a need for a lot of people to get a new education / job training. Changes have been accelerating for at least 100 years no news and nothing to worry about. The problem is that our government incl. of the government

[Vo]:Universe measured to 1% accuracy

2014-01-09 Thread H Veeder
Universe measured to 1% accuracy By James Morgan Science reporter, BBC News, Washington DC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25663810 The latest results indicate dark energy is a cosmological constant whose strength does not vary in space or time. They also provide an excellent

Re: [Vo]:[OT] ten core beliefs that most scientists take for granted

2014-01-09 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: Unlike some critics against mainstream scientist, my main feeling is that many scientists share with pseudo-scientists a love for theory, teleology, coherence, and when facing reality, serendipity, anomalies, they

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

2014-01-09 Thread James Bowery
As luck would have it: Surprising new class of “hypervelocity stars” discovered escaping the galaxy http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2014/01/hypervelocity-stars/ On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:16 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Steven, A few years back I also wrote a program that handled

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

2014-01-09 Thread David Roberson
Well, I guess that program makes sense of this discovery. Now, we might need to worry about the multitude of other objects that are out there heading in random directions. I have a suspicion that the Earth and other planets and moons have been impacted by this type of debris in the distant

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

2014-01-09 Thread James Bowery
Space is big. Really... Really... BIG On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:09 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Well, I guess that program makes sense of this discovery. Now, we might need to worry about the multitude of other objects that are out there heading in random directions. I

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

2014-01-09 Thread James Bowery
Space is big. Really... really... BIG On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:09 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Well, I guess that program makes sense of this discovery. Now, we might need to worry about the multitude of other objects that are out there heading in random directions. I

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

2014-01-09 Thread James Bowery
Sorry, Gmail's intelligent control of saving and sending got me. On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:35 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Space is big. Really... really... BIG On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:09 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: Well, I guess that program makes