Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-03 Thread Alain Sepeda
the position of Nassim Nicholas Taleb is that history is written (not rewritten) by the losers, the academics, because they own the books of history. This is why in most official history the role of theory is very overstated, that the initial discoverers who observed anomalies without the least

Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: The difference between a visionary and a crackpot is that the visionary turns out to be right... Given, otherwise, he would simply be another crackpot.

[Vo]:A tipping point?

2014-06-03 Thread Jones Beene
In a bit of historical retrospective, last evening I watched a fabulous bit of history about the beautiful aftermath of treachery ... at least that is one way to describe the Silicon Valley, the American Experience a film by Randall MacLowry of WGBH Boston. There are parallels to LENR which are

RE:[Vo]:A tipping point?

2014-06-03 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Jones, even if you just coined the term Hydrogen Valley it has the ring of inevitability too it and we are probably witnessing it's birth. I would not be surprised if the breakthrough occurs in a rogue state or 3rd world nation where human life and safety precautions are discarded like the

Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-03 Thread Alain Sepeda
One basic of Taleb philosophy is that knowing what will be good or bad, innovation or crackpots, is often not possible. Another is that if you have skin in the game, will pay your faults, you will instinctively better use the information you have. this is one basic idea to prefer entrepreneurs

RE: [Vo]:A tipping point?

2014-06-03 Thread Jones Beene
From: Roarty, Francis X Jones, even if you just coined the term Hydrogen Valley it has the ring of inevitability too it and we are probably witnessing it's birth. I would not be surprised if the breakthrough occurs in a rogue state or 3rd world nation I agree. China is probably the best

Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: One basic of Taleb philosophy is that knowing what will be good or bad, innovation or crackpots, is often not possible. I was not impressed by Taleb's book The Black Swan. I disagreed with most of the examples of things that he claimed were not

Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-03 Thread James Bowery
Whenever you see some idiot standing on a bully pulpit in media, government and/or academia and saying Who could have foreseen? You can bet someone did foresee it and not just because a broken clock is right twice a day. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:A tipping point?

2014-06-03 Thread Alain Sepeda
I have no data on LENR in Indonesia, but is someone is serious about there, my dear lobbyist have a network bigger than my company intranet. However to start we need some public recognition, and then a process that respect local culture... ;-) They planned some fission reactor, but population

Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-03 Thread Alain Sepeda
One point where you probably agree is that many blackswan were in fact ignored voluntarily, like cold fusion is. From the point of view of mainstream many things were unpredictable, yet some like Roubini predicted them in detail.* I din not read the blackswan, but antifragile. and this author is

[Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-03 Thread Steve High
The folks up north are apparently a bit peeved over being slimed by their local media: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/06/03/swedish-e-cat-testers-issue-statement/ I can imagine that it's a bit unpleasant to find your reputation being trashed in this manner by your government-sponsored

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is a good statement. Yes, I do get a sense this wording means the results are probably positive. If the results were negative, I suppose they would say something like: although our initial results were positive, we could not confirm them. Why say that now? Because it would get them off the

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Another reason to think the results are positive is that it is taking all this time. The researchers would have cut short the tests long ago and published. I meant that if there were no excess heat, they would have cut short the tests after a few weeks. I suppose. Several groups

Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Whenever you see some idiot standing on a bully pulpit in media, government and/or academia and saying Who could have foreseen? You can bet someone did foresee it and not just because a broken clock is right twice a day. Yes, indeed. The Three Mile

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-03 Thread Lennart Thornros
Comment on Steve High, You know I am one of the folks up north although in California since many years. Like many others you think that a government owned radio network is different than one owned by advertisement. Well, they both have their advantages. Unfortunately the freedom of speech in my

Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-03 Thread H Veeder
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Whenever you see some idiot standing on a bully pulpit in media, government and/or academia and saying Who could have foreseen? You can bet someone did foresee it and not just

[Vo]:NyTeknik report on Third party tests

2014-06-03 Thread walker...@gmail.com
Hi all NyTeknik have put out a report hinting at a successful Third party test of the E-Cat. http://www.nyteknik.se/asikter/debatt/article3830568.ece Use Google translate or babelfish or some such. Kind regards walker

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-03 Thread Alan Fletcher
I don't know why they replied. Since (as Jed pointed out) they ran the test for the full duration it was most likely positive. The only reason I can think of is that the Swedish coverage might influence journal editors, but I think a solid paper and a cover letter would serve the same

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on Third party tests

2014-06-03 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 07:10 PM 6/3/2014, you wrote: Hi all NyTeknik have put out a report hinting at a successful Third party test of the E-Cat. http://www.nyteknik.se/asikter/debatt/article3830568.ece That's just the Swedish team's response - but it's good that Mats' editors are still with it. As I just posted

Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-03 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: be sure all the people will consider cold fusion as a black swan event, while it is predictable in principle since 1990, and more or less planned since 2010. I think the spread of cold fusion will be a black swan

[Vo]:Off Topic

2014-06-03 Thread Craig
I know this is off topic, but I thought it might be interesting to some of you. It's a unique Bitcoin transaction of which I had never considered. It demonstrates some of the power that Bitcoin may bring to people.