Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Alain Sepeda
My reports is that Luca is far from being a newcomer or a carpetbagger in the domain. I let people knowing who he is report the precise facts to support what have been reported to me. Luca have a past, a good past. this is painful to me, but the credibility of DGT compared to Luca was much lower

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:RE: Hydrofill and LaNi5

2014-07-14 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, I agree but leave open the door for hybrid systems like Arata used to pressurize an inner reactor and cause h2 bubbles to treat the lattice like a membrane. I don’t want to give up on wet cell or at least submerged reactors for the inherent safety and thermal transfer rate they provide.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I have heard rumors that Gamberale is a thief and a liar. Well, in that case he isn't very good at being a thief and a liar, is he? When he and his colleagues found a problem, they immediately informed their customers and closed down the company. That is not

Re: [Vo]:The SPADEX experiment, preamble

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Your assessment may vary, but the pluses of [the Cravens experiment] are: that it is simple, understated, essentially unpowered, solid state, robust, long-running, well-constructed, and the error possibilities are greatly reduced. IOW it is elegant

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
Not a good liar. No one was able to answer my questions concerning the inconsistencies of the report I pointed out on CMNS. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

RE: [Vo]:The SPADEX experiment, preamble

2014-07-14 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell Your assessment may vary, but the pluses of [the Cravens experiment] are: that it is simple, understated, essentially unpowered, solid state, robust, long-running, well-constructed, and the error possibilities are greatly

RE: [Vo]:The SPADEX experiment, preamble

2014-07-14 Thread Jones Beene
One thought provoking question, since the Cravens concept may be moving towards commercialization as a space heater, faster than anyone suspects - and he is using “half-and-half” - what is the realistic cost of 50/50 HD water? Heavy water is expensive (and controlled) but going to “reactor grade”

Re: [Vo]:The SPADEX experiment, preamble

2014-07-14 Thread Bob Cook
Sent from Windows Mail From: Jones Beene Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎July‎ ‎14‎, ‎2014 ‎6‎:‎48‎ ‎AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Jed and Jones-- Such an MO would fit with Ed Storm’s idea of a non-nuclear source of energy. The old physics boys may accept it. However, it

Re: [Vo]:The SPADEX experiment

2014-07-14 Thread Brad Lowe
An open Craven's experiment for ~ $1000? This is incredible news Jones and Dennis. By self-powered, you mean room temperature (no hot plate required?) One sphere hotter than the control? Experimenters can change ingredients/parameters to tune the effect? The science would really accelerate if

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
There is only one open question: Was this a stupid mistake, or was it deliberate fraud? It is hard to judge, but I do not think it makes much difference. Either way, a person would be crazy to deal with the company. There could be another complication involved in the testing of the NiH

RE: [Vo]:The SPADEX experiment

2014-07-14 Thread Jones Beene
Brad, This experiment is based on an alternative interpretation of the Cravens' NI-Week demo and the availability of a low cost hydrogen storage system, a large dose of optimism, and little more. One hypothetical way to achieve thermal gain would be recycling through an exothermic

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Not a good liar. No one was able to answer my questions concerning the inconsistencies of the report I pointed out on CMNS. I do not recall these questions, but you are not one who needs questions answered. Defkalion needs to explain why Gamberale is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It is likely that Gamberale was not away of this *idiocynrocy implicate *in the NiH reactor and his test was flawed because of it. No, that would not apply during the calibration phase. Gamberale reported spurious excess heat during calibration with the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
Why do they need answer anything? I can see what's wrong, and there's no need for DGT answer anything. This is what I posted: Dear Abd, I cannot see significant mistakes in the demo, but I can see that the report was really awful in explaining the compatibility with the demo. And I agree with

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
Note, it's been almost a month an no one answere. There is no need to DGT clarify anything since Gambarelli did a piss poor report. They should clarify that first. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
*Regarding the report, the first problem was that it measured with neutral Ar and then with H2 and both yield the same high power measure. In the demo, they had different power measures, the one with Ar, was low* *This is a good point.* *In the demo that I watched, I saw the neutral Ar test

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
I am going from memory here which could be misapplied. Anyway, DGT remarks associated with the ICCF-18 demo regarding EMF interference leads me to the conclusion that during the demo, DGT first became fully aware of the full extent of the problems caused by the disruptive power that LENR related

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
Refreshing my memory as follows: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/newvortex/conversations/topics/584 Snip Additional information was provided, that Defkalion had seen disruption of electronic equipment by the device, such as their phone system being shut down; the measurements reported were

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Additional information was provided, that Defkalion had seen disruption of electronic equipment by the device, such as their phone system being shut down; the measurements reported were with all shielding removed; normally, they operate the Hyperion with

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
more... When the NiH reactor produces more magnetic field force than the biggest and most powerful black hole or neutron star, we should expect some RF interference. Testing such a device is not going to be easy. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Here is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
This sounds like there was something wrong with the equipment and/of the test setup. Fix the equipment and/or test setup and rerun the test. Running a test with this anomaly ongoing puts the test result in question. Since DGT did not rum the test, they cannot be blamed for the malfunction. Am I

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds like there was something wrong with the equipment and/of the test setup. Correct. Fix the equipment and/or test setup and rerun the test. Yes, they should have done that, but they never did. As far as anyone knows, they never fixed the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
You can't be referring to the test I saw on the internet. To advance my understanding and my memory, that test is still available for reference. Can you point to where this problem is seen on the video? I don't remember such a problem showing up. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: You can't be referring to the test I saw on the internet. There is only one test as far as I know. It was conducted during the ICCF conference. It shows Hadjichristos blathering while in the background the flow meter data shows that the test is not working.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
That demo looked good to me but I am no expert. I still don't trust people is the LENR business because you all have vested interests. All the tests and demos run by Ross must also have been invalid because of RF interference. One of the major challenges in the NiH reactor business is running

[Vo]:Scientists protest the high cost of journals

2014-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cost_of_Knowledge I found this in a comment in the New York Times, QUOTE: As an academic, I shed no tears for publishers. In the sciences, publishers add little to no value, passing on all the work from writing, refereeing, editing and even typesetting to

Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.

2014-07-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:25:22 -0400: Hi, [snip] The key parameters in this exercise are the volume of the hydrogen envelope and the maximum pressure of hydrogen in that envelope. If we were to assume that the hydride replenished the envelope as the pressure

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's competitive analisys

2014-07-14 Thread Terry Blanton
If anyone wants to suffer through it, it remains available: http://new.livestream.com/triwu2/Defkalion-US

Re: [Vo]:Scientists protest the high cost of journals

2014-07-14 Thread fznidarsic
Yes indeed, thank you Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-textfield-keywords=%22znidarsic+science+books%22rh=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3A%22znidarsic+science+books%22 -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
In a system that uses only temperature as a control mechanism(Rossi), what the hydrogen system needs is negative feedback in the hydrogen system to counteract reactor meltdown. This might be provided through the use of a small internally sealed hydrogen storage tank controlled with a smart valve

[Vo]:Edmund Storms's new book

2014-07-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
The Explanation of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction: / /An Examination of the Relationship between Observation and Explanation/ by Edmund Storms See http://lenrexplained.com/ ***So why is this book being greeted by indifference yawning by Vorticians?

Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms's new book

2014-07-14 Thread Foks0904 .
I'm still waiting to receive my copy. I'll have more to say then. I'm guessing most haven't gotten around to it either. But generally speaking it deserves some in-depth analysis for sure. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: The Explanation of Low Energy

Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms's new book

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
Some appetizers to hold you over http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2896450/posts On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still waiting to receive my copy. I'll have more to say then. I'm guessing most haven't gotten around to it either. But generally

Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms's new book

2014-07-14 Thread Foks0904 .
Well I suppose it couldn't hurt to start a conversation on Ed's theory in general, as I'm sure some of us know a bit about it. He posits the hydroton polymer-like cluster that slowly dissipates energy through resonance-induced photon emission. The hydrogen chain forms in the Nuclear Active

Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms's new book

2014-07-14 Thread Bob Higgins
I just received my copy of Ed's new book and I am reading it now. Too early to review, but it is hard to stop reading. On Jul 14, 2014 8:10 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: The Explanation of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction: / /An Examination of the Relationship between Observation and

Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms's new book

2014-07-14 Thread Axil Axil
Dear Foks0904 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whispering-gallery_wave The Whispering gallery wave is the quantum mechanical mechanism that builds Surface Plasmon Polaritons by absorbing all manner of electrons and photons of light from infrared to gamma and blends them together through FANO