Re: [Vo]:how to filter out users in Gmail

2014-09-01 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Jesus told us to spread the good news, not to hide the light under a bowl. He is a far higher authority than you. On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote: You are right. Whoever wrote Live by your believes and let others live by theirs is a far wiser guy

Re: [Vo]:Anyone want to debate Darwinian Evolution with me in VortexB

2014-09-01 Thread Kevin O'Malley
How does one get to Vortex B? I'd like to witness this debate. My prediction: None of the vorts who complained so loudly will be able to mount any kind of defense of Darwinian religious viewpoint, nor will there be any real debate from those who haven't complained so loudly. And also, the

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-09-01 Thread Kevin O'Malley
In response to my Imagine that: the sun warms up planets, like ours.There's a distinct lack of evidence for something that is supposed to be such a friggin slam-dunk. When it is a slam-dunk, there's no need for fraud. On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:50 PM, CB Sites cbsit...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Anyone want to debate Darwinian Evolution with me in VortexB

2014-09-01 Thread Jojo Iznart
send email to vortexb-l-requ...@eskimo.com with subscribe in subject line. So far, only one person accepted my challenge. I am going thru his links to study what proof he has provided. I'll respond to him as soon as I have studied his links. Jojo - Original Message - From:

Re: [Vo]:Elon Would Invest in LENR

2014-09-01 Thread ucar
Overall, the things not getting very meaningful after he spelled this three letter acronym. I had discovered strong coupling between coils under self resonance which is very impressive but I don't think this is a way sufficient for generating anomalous energy. More interesting is how one can

RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook * … I would only gloat to myself. Feel free to gloat in a big public demonstration if gammaless fusion is proved :-) Side Note: There is a strange mentality, which is seen in some skeptics of LENR – the relevant

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Bob Higgins
Obviously I have some catch-up posting to do. I will begin with some of the latter comments. Jones, you exemplify the other side of the coin: If I thought of it, so it must be right. We stand on the shoulders of giants. I read and try to synthesize the best understanding I can piece together

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
All these electron combining with proton theories violate the conservation of leptons. These reactions are forbidden. Meson production does not violate conservation laws. I went with meson production because of this. On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
Are you proposing a BEC? A BEC cannot form at these temperatures, This is not correct. A polariton has a mass the is 10^-11 that of an electron. Because of this almost zero polariton mass, a polariton condensate are almost always produced at any temperature. On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:21 PM,

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread H Veeder
Also if two DDL hydrogens fuse is the product a DDL helium? If they do then the product would tend to look like tritium. Harry On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously I have some catch-up posting to do. I will begin with some of the latter

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Walker
Three additional points to add: * I'm still waiting for a careful writeup of Mizuno's latest NiH/NiD work. What we've seen are some slides. It seems premature at this point to draw too many conclusions. * We know relatively little about nickel systems compared to palladium systems. I assume

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Bob Higgins
I believe the thinking is that the fusion of DDL atoms begins with the formation of a DDL pico-molecule. Meulenberg then proposes that the two electrons in combination (his Lochon) are involved in the fusion. When fusion would occur, the electrons are so close to the nucleus that they are highly

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: All these electron combining with proton theories violate the conservation of leptons. These reactions are forbidden. Not if a neutrino is involved. (Not that I'm at all persuaded by the proposed p-e-p reaction.) Mesons in

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This is not correct. A polariton has a mass the is 10^-11 that of an electron. Because of this almost zero polariton mass, a polariton condensate are almost always produced at any temperature. Could you point us to

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
electrons cannot be converted to something that contain quarks. this violates the conservation of both lepton and baryon number. This reaction might therefore be forbidden as a violation of particle conservation laws. On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
A electron neutrino is produced. On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: All these electron combining with proton theories violate the conservation of leptons. These reactions are forbidden.

Re: [Vo]:Anyone want to debate Darwinian Evolution with me in VortexB

2014-09-01 Thread Terry Blanton
You are automatically subscribed when you subscribe here. On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:37 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: How does one get to Vortex B? I'd like to witness this debate. My prediction: None of the vorts who complained so loudly will be able to mount any kind of

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.umich.edu/~mctp/SciPrgPgs/events/2010/MQSS10/Talks/Littlewood_Michigan_PBL.pdf On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This is not correct. A polariton has a mass the is 10^-11

Re: [Vo]:Anyone want to debate Darwinian Evolution with me in VortexB

2014-09-01 Thread Jojo Iznart
I don't think that's true Terry. I had to explicitly subscribe before I can post to it. Jojo - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Anyone want to debate Darwinian Evolution

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
I just posted this the other day,,, http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.1298v1.pdf On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.umich.edu/~mctp/SciPrgPgs/events/2010/MQSS10/Talks/Littlewood_Michigan_PBL.pdf On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
Correction: Muon neutrino On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: A electron neutrino is produced. On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: All these

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Anyone want to debate Darwinian Evolution with me in VortexB

2014-09-01 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
It's possible BillB changed it. Thx. - Reply message - From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Anyone want to debate Darwinian Evolution with me in VortexB Date: Mon, Sep 1, 2014 2:03 PM I don't think that's true Terry. I had to explicitly

RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Jones Beene
So many egregious errors ... so little time to correct them all... Bob Higgins: This business of Rossi using a radioactive ingredient is a Bozo speculation based on absolutely nothing. And Rossi is not the only one to measure gamma from a LENR experiment ... Oh... Rossi measured gamma? News

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.umich.edu/~mctp/SciPrgPgs/events/2010/MQSS10/Talks/Littlewood_Michigan_PBL.pdf Following are the rough specs of the polaritons described in these slides: - Temperatures on the range of 0 - 16 K. - Photon

Re: [Vo]:superradiance

2014-09-01 Thread Harvey Norris
Does anyone here understand this branch of science? Superradiance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Superradiance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In physics, the term superradiance is used to refer to radiation enhancement effects in several contexts including quantum

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Bob Higgins
Well, as I went back and checked, it was the earlier paper Focardi wrote describing Piantelli's Ni-H experiments where Focardi reported substantial gamma. You talk about a Mizuno hero experiment where Mizuno reports 108 MJ, in this Focardi paper, Piantelli had one experiment over 900 MJ and

Re: [Vo]:how to filter out users in Gmail

2014-09-01 Thread Lennart Thornros
I am fine with whatever you believe Kevin. Just get happy. My opinion is just none of your business as I do not need anyone to endorse my believes. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
Try this one http://arxiv.org/vc/arxiv/papers/1210/1210.7086v1.pdf On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:how to filter out users in Gmail

2014-09-01 Thread Kevin O'Malley
And yet, you try to knock others' beliefs out of Vortex because you're so insecure in your own beliefs. Typical of a strategic follower rather than a strategic leader. On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote: I am fine with whatever you believe Kevin. Just

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Bob Higgins
Well, supper's done and I found the reference I was looking for. This is an interview with Sergio Focardi where he talks about the technology. He says radiation is present and that is why they have the lead. He talks about having a radiation detector outside the reactor to shut down the reactor

[Vo]:To: Vortex- Ministry of Defence- UK monitoring LENR and Antigravity

2014-09-01 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L: From 2013 The last slide show on Woodroof..pages 1-40 are the most interesting: http://www.openminds.tv/ufo-files-reveal-british-ministry-of-defence-monitors-anti-gravity-research-1063/22488 Ron Kita, Chiralex Also..see the comment section in the website above. Note;The

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Well, supper's done and I found the reference I was looking for ... - A radio interview with Sergio Focardi, the father of 'Ni-H Cold Fusion'; Radio Citta del Capo - Bologna - Italy. Excellent sources, Bob. I

RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins * Yes, I am quite aware that some researchers have salted their experiments with radioactive isotopes. I also know that Dennis Cravens sometimes use thorium oxide for that purpose (he showed me his jar). That doesn't mean that Piantelli or Rossi did. Where did

RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins * * Well, supper's done and I found the reference I was looking for. This is an interview with Sergio Focardi where he talks about the technology. The material from 2004 is irrelevant wrt Rossi * In Focardi's 2010 paper with Rossi, Focardi describes the

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The material from 2004 is irrelevant wrt Rossi Most obviously not. no radiation was observed at levels greater than natural radiation background. No radioactivity has been found also in the Nickel residual from the

RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Jones Beene
You must be joking right? Only a fool makes a gamma measurement outside the lead. Please read the Bianchini report. He is very clear about how the readings were taken: UNDER THE LEAD Jones From: Eric Walker Jones Beene wrote: The material from 2004 is irrelevant wrt

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: You must be joking right? Only a fool makes a gamma measurement outside the lead. Not true, even a little. There are very good reasons for taking gamma measurements outside of lead, the primary one being to ensure that

RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker You must be joking right Only a fool makes a gamma measurement outside the lead. Not true, even a little. There are very good reasons for taking gamma measurements outside of lead, the primary one being to ensure that the device can operate safely around humans.

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: You still have not shown that Rossi ever reported gamma radiation in an operating E-Cat ! Please – put up or shut up. Please read the interview. Eric