Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Lennart Thornros wrote: > > If there is cheap electricity electrical cars are simple - fast to > recharge. > Electricity is already cheap. It is much cheaper than gasoline per mile. Electric cars are not fast to recharge; they are slow. Cold fusion would do nothing to

[Vo]:RE: The megafarad capacitor

Apple is at it again - this time with hydrogen - first to power the iphone, and then the driverless car. A UK research company with 900 patents, Intelligent Energy - is tied to Apple in a similar hidden way as ARM, which designs the iphone chips. Having a bank roll of $200 billion in liquid

Re: [Vo]:RE: The megafarad capacitor

For some time to come, fuel cells for portable products will be just a novelty/stunt. In the best case scenario, they are a battery charger supplying constant current because they are much harder to throttle than a lithium battery, particularly as they get miniaturized. A serious problem for

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Lennart Thornros wrote: > I am not in agreement with that electricity is cheap. > It is much cheaper than gasoline per mile in an automobile. About 4 times cheaper, depending on the cost of gasoline. Producing electricity locally, in my opinion as local as possible has

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Jed, I am not in agreement with that electricity is cheap. However, I live in the PG land so it is a little false background. I can actually produce electricity with a diesel generator at lower cost than I can buy it. If you cut in to pieces what I say you can object but as whole your arguments

RE: [Vo]:RE: The megafarad capacitor

Jones sez: ... > Having a bank roll of $200 billion in liquid assets will let you do > crazy things like move all the way from computeres into automotive > - when the time is right. I suppose they could just buy Toyota and > be done with it. LOL! GOOD example of having lots of

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Lennart Thornros wrote: > I am not in agreement with that electricity is cheap. > It is much cheaper than gasoline per mile in an automobile. About 4 times cheaper, depending on the cost of gasoline. You are now including energy taxes and big brother's energy politics.

[Vo]:GLOBAL LENR RESEARCH PLAN (I)

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/09/sep-24-2015-sketch-of-global-research.html we need principles, plans and ACTION! Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

RE: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

From: Mark Goldes * * The conversion of a small Briggs & Stratton engine to run without fuel is now underway… For those on vortex who are unfamiliar with Ken Rauen’s work, PESN has a web page focusing on an earlier engine. Ken is a leading expert on the Papp engine – and there are

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Thank you Jones. At the same time the issue is not the relative cost of electricity before LENR. I am #2 in line for the model 3. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Here are some more instances of negative electric power costs: "Negative prices in wholesale electricity markets indicate supply inflexibilities" http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=5110

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

The resent work by Holmlid show that muons are produced by rydberg matter. I now believe that rydberg matter was a product of the Papp engine plasma process. Notice that both Holmlid and Papp produce no heat and very high speed neutral particles from explosive rydberg matter fragments. The Papp

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Jones Beene wrote: > the operative detail left out is that empty “space” is arguably the > virtual heat sink which would express temperatures near absolute zero (on > paper). The idea is that ambient heat transfers to a virtual heat sink, > which is very cold. > Yes,

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

*AAESOP’s *LITTLE ENGINE THAT COULD CHANGE THE WORLD (from the aesopinstitute.org website) The conversion of a small Briggs & Stratton engine to run without fuel is now underway. This Fuel-Free, scalable, modified engine (and proprietary future piston and turbine engines) designed to never

RE: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Well, OTEC is a good metaphor – but without disagreeing with Jed’s assessment, the operative detail left out is that empty “space” is arguably the virtual heat sink which would express temperatures near absolute zero (on paper). The idea is that ambient heat transfers to a virtual heat sink,

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Jones Beene wrote: > Like the Papp engine, there will be strong disagreement over the > thermodynamic issues involved . . . > That is putting it mildly! I think most people would say it is a flat-violation of the laws of thermodynamics. You cannot run anything on

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Jones Beene wrote: > Ø About 4 times cheaper, depending on the cost of gasoline. > > > > Not in Sept. 2015. Today, with the drop in fuel cost, electricity is about > 2 times cheaper, on average, but not everywhere; and most of that is due to > no road tax on electricity –

Re: [Vo]:RE: The megafarad capacitor

Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > Regarding generating a hydrogen infrastructure, many years ago I recall > Dr. Peter Zimmerman (Dr. Mills' worst nemesis) claiming we should redirect > many of our nuclear plants towards the primary task of cracking H2O into >

RE: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

From: David Roberson Ø Does anyone know of experiments that demonstrate that photo cells can convert heat or light radiation from a sink in which they are located directly into electrical power? There are several electro-optical anomalies like this one, which involve LEDs, lasers,

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Guys, Rauen patented a series of thermodynamic cycles (US #6,698,200) and designed and built a prototype of an engine concept that embodies the Proell effect. The prototype did not run due to poor piston seals and excessive friction of its moving parts. Pressure instrumentation of the motored

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

It is unfortunate that the prototype did not run per your note. If it had run as expected then you might find stronger acceptance of the concept. Perhaps the inventors are mistaken in their understanding and the meters which indicated positive results were misread or interpreted incorrectly.

Re: [Vo]:RE: The megafarad capacitor

Jed with your numbers, which I am sure you have right, it seems to me that nuclear power is great for H production when we implemented LENR on a local level. Those mega investment that never can be economically sound could get a second life. I think if you are in France solar is an alternative

RE: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

BTW – I mentioned ~70% efficient photocells, because there have been claims for that high level, and there would be plenty of losses in a closed-loop system, even if the emitter was COP=2.3. But it turns out there are even higher efficiencies being claimed – 80 percent.

Re: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

There's huge consensus about what works though. Why not establish that as a basis and just say other approaches are open questions? Why does everyone go to such huge effort to say "pyroelectric fusion which works at low temperatures isn't cold fusion because it doesn't follow pons/fleischman

Re: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

Yeah, I know. It's like these people's brains are utterly broken. There is an implicit conspiracy (by BOTH anti and pro pons/fleischman people) to narrow define cold fusion as experiments done in the late 80s. The idea that cold fusion doesn't involve hydrogen infused metal is just

Re: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: The idea that cold fusion doesn't involve hydrogen infused metal is just > end-of-times for these people. > It's really hard to sort out what is known from what is conjecture. There are some careful

RE: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

From: Lennart Thornros I am not in agreement with that electricity is cheap. JR: It is much cheaper than gasoline per mile in an automobile. LT: You are now including energy taxes and big brother's energy politics. That is fine with me as that is my main idea that we are so over

[Vo]:Re: CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

RE: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINESJones said-- “When it gets more than 100 percent efficient, it begins to cool down, stealing energy from ambient, which is exactly what must happen in any OU device, unless there is nuclear reaction pathway or

Re: [Vo]:RE: The megafarad capacitor

Lennart Thornros wrote: Jed with your numbers, which I am sure you have right . . . > No necessarily! You should not trust my arithmetic. I sometimes drop 1 or 2 orders of magnitude. . . . it seems to me that nuclear power is great for H production when we > implemented

RE: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

Steven, I read the old NYT article just now and yes --- it specifically uses the term "cold fusion" several times in 1956 . wow. and yes, they are talking about muon catalyzed fusion at low temperature - the kind with lots of 24 MeV gamma rays as evidence of the reaction. Even though it was

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

I wrote: > 3. Oil is cheap now mainly because of fracking. This is also lowering the > cost of natural gas, which will lower the cost of electricity in the near > future. > Meanwhile, in Texas at night they will sometimes pay you to use electricity. The cost is negative:

RE: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-03/09/230-percent-efficient-leds Notice that this LED has a COP of 2.3… or 230 percent overunity. That implies “perpetual motion”. “However, while MIT's diode puts out more than twice as much energy in photons as it's fed in electrons, it doesn't

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Anyone who witnesses a bona fide the Papp replication attempt (not the > “popper” LOL) … often comments that the engine runs cold. Why? It is part > of the M.O. It would be a mistake to lump the poppers from the two

[Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

I was reading the entry for cold fusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion While I agree with this statement: *Cold fusion is a hypothetical type of nuclear reaction that would occur at, or near, room temperature

RE: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

>From Blaze, ... > I think it will also help the community at large if they view cold > fusion as completely doable. Perhaps it's time for you to update the Wikipedia article on CF in order to reflect this important matter. See what happens... Regards, Steven Vincent

RE: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

>From Blaze: > http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E03E0D7103FE033A05753C3A9649D946792D6CF > I wonder if the 1956 article actually uses the phrase "Cold Fusion"? I'm not clear on that. I'm assuming it didn't. Interesting piece of research nevertheless. Perhaps someone

Re: [Vo]:RE: The megafarad capacitor

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 24 Sep 2015 20:42:22 -0400: Hi, [snip] >In actual applications I would expect each factory making cold fusion >engines or power supplies to generate their own purified hydrogen, or to >bring in a tank of hydrogen every week or so. The hydrogen source in

Re: [Vo]:CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

The new prototype is a conversion of a small engine. A Ford engine has already been converted by an inventor. Both require filling with Propane. His old Ford engine seals leaked propane as the internal pressure is great. He ran the Ford engine at 1,300 rpm to prove it could be done. We have

Re: [Vo]:Rewriting the lede on cold fusion for wikipedia

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E03E0D7103FE033A05753C3A9649D946792D6CF Cold Fusion of Hydrogen Atoms; A Fourth Method Pulling Together 1956!! On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > There's huge consensus about what works though.

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONVERTING LENR HEAT INTO ELECTRICITY WITH UNIQUE AESOP ENERGY ENGINES

Bob Cook wrote: > I have always thought that the binding energy released in a normal > “chemical reaction” was equivalent to a small change in mass. Is this not > the case? > Yes. Every form of energy production always converts mass to energy, always in the ratio from

Re: [Vo]:RE: The megafarad capacitor

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 24 Sep 2015 20:42:22 -0400: Hi, [snip] >right. In other words, the overhead is small; 1 MJ of electricity produces >enough hydrogen to generate 5e13 MJ of heat. > I think you have dropped about 7 orders of magnitude. ;) You have a ratio of 1:5e13. It