[Vo]:Re: LENR-CANR Theory Papers

2011-12-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://www.iscmns.org/CMNS/JCMNS-Vol4.pdf#page=40   2011 has some good papers ...  many follow-ons, eg A. Meulenberg and K.P. Sinha / Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science 4 (2011) 241–255 expands on lochons : and p+e in particular.

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR Theory Papers

2011-12-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:47 AM 12/6/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Good job, but I'll play the devil's advocate by saying that many of them are not peer reviewed papers and because of this hard skeptics would reject them at once. I was just building a reading list (thanks anyway) ... and did a coupla-minute skim

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR Theory Papers

2011-12-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:47 AM 12/6/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: On 2011-12-06 20:15, Alan J Fletcher wrote: By the way, have you checked if this archive contains things not included in lenr-canr.org ? http://www.iscmns.org/library.htm I didn't have that list.  There do seem to be papers not in Jed's

[Vo]:LENR-CANR Theory Papers

2011-12-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I've just finished a marathon multi-day session of skimming through the excellent http://lenr-canr.org  library. These are really just bookmarks to myself of papers that are worth reading properly.  I restricted myself to about 2005+ ... mainly to weed out "first impressions". I've tagged most of

Re: [Vo]:a long paper about and mainly against the E-cat

2011-12-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 08:37 AM 12/6/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: By the way, the article has an interesting way of cheating the power-in measurement. See the last figure. I don't think Rossi does this but I can't rule it out. In the photos, the line cord is taken apart and the wire being measured looks like it's a s

Re: [Vo]:MSNBC reports on Rossi visit to Massachusetts

2011-12-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:26 AM 12/6/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:They shouldn't burn the bodies -- better to make Soylent Green. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green The same article also links to : Eat the Old: Could Mass Cannibalism Solve a Future Food Shortage? < http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/soylent-gre

Re: [Vo]:MSNBC reports on Rossi visit to Massachusetts

2011-12-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 08:17 AM 12/6/2011, Harry Veeder wrote: Idea of a cold fusion plant in Massachusetts explored http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45557227/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/idea-cold-fusion-plant-massachusetts-explored/#.Tt3c0lbbDRQ "Life's little mysteries" has been covering Rossi intermittently,

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:30 PM 12/5/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: We don't know what tests Ampenergo did -- perhaps it was more of the uncalibrated and error prone heat of vaporization of steam type experiments that Rossi is so fond of doing even though liquid coolant as used by Levi is much easier and better.  If you kno

Re: [Vo]:Ni producer

2011-12-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:03 PM 12/5/2011, Alain dit le Cycliste wrote: not so false. according to Rossi's E-cat figures, it would consume 25% of annual Ni production to produce the annual energy. in my opinion, according to defkalion info, the powder seems simple. the reactor and the H bottle seems the most expe

Re: [Vo]: ECAT Triggered by Cosmic Rays?

2011-12-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:24 PM 12/5/2011, Andrea Selva wrote: Sorry Jed. I apologize for the quite rude joke. Couldn't resist. I still think that the eCat's neutrinos are interfering with the LHC's tachyonic neutrino experiment. Or vice-versa. Did you notice that Rossi always lines up the eCats in the same dire

Re: [Vo]:LENR presentation by Dennis Bushnell

2011-12-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:08 PM 12/2/2011, Joshua Cude wrote: The simple fact is that it takes 780 keV localized on a single atomic site to cause electron-capture by a proton. WL try to explain how that might happen, but they don't admit that you only have to concentrate about 100 keV into a single atomic site to ge

Re: [Vo]:LENR presentation by Dennis Bushnell

2011-12-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:05 PM 12/2/2011, Joshua Cude wrote: Yes. He had so many basic facts wrong in his interview with ev-world, it should have been an embarrassment to NASA. Like all the other fans of Widom & Larsen, they love to point out how the theory avoids the Coulomb barrier (in an exothermic reaction), an

[Vo]:Energy Catalyzer Wiki : FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH!

2011-12-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer The Wiki "Reliable Source" police have won.  Brian Josephson has been driven off, and I'm giving up. Since the discussion on an article is removed after a month or so, I'm putting up my "final straws" for the record. The article is chock-a-block ful

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:13 AM 11/30/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: You do not have to worry about wasting heat. It costs nothing. On the other hand it would be annoying to have to leave the cooling fans on. It would be noisy and it would cause wear and tear. At COP=6 I think you DO have to worry. COP=20, no.

[Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
A long time ago Rossi said that an eCat's output could be continuously variable between 0% and 100%. He hasn't said that recently. Defkalion/Hyperion also says it's bang-bang (on/off) .. "In general, the mean time to put a Hyperion from 0 to 100% of its capacity is 6,5min.". For both syst

Re: [Vo]:Building E-Cat based thermal electricity plants

2011-11-29 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:50 PM 11/28/2011, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Is the 1MW in addition to, or instead of the 100kW ?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi opens 10 KW expression of interest list and sets 10 kW price

2011-11-29 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Albert Ellul November 29th, 2011 at 4:29 AM Dear Andrea, May I make one suggestion: Would it be possible to include a counter on you website showing the number of people that have confirmed the pre-order for the 10KW heater?  Just thinking. Andrea Rossi November 29th, 2011 at 9:29 AM N

Re: [Vo]:ZENN Trading Halted Pending News

2011-11-28 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:51 PM 11/28/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: EEStor related? I wouldn't get my hopes up. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ZNN.V Peaked at 25% up from 10am -- coulda made a killing! (If I had any stock). Volume: 148,044

[Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

2011-11-28 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Andrea Rossi November 28th, 2011 at 6:48 PM November 28th, 2011 at 6:48 PM Dear Herb Gills: Today we sold in the USA a 1 MW plant which will go to a normal Customer. This installation will be visitable by the qualified public. We wait to have completed the contractual procedure through the a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test

2011-11-28 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Hank Mills November 28th, 2011 at 1:15 AM Hello Andrea, I apologize if I’m not controlling my passion about this topic quite as well as I should. I think the lies of the cynics and competitors (which I read everyday), are making me a bit more angry than usual. Out of jealousy and envy, they ar

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat / philosophical remarks

2011-11-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:38 AM 11/25/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Indeed. And I am sure you saw the large catalog of charges and convictions Rossi has amassed -- I forget where the cite is for that at the moment but it was quite impressive. You can read Rossi's version on the Krivit site. And you can read in http:/

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat / philosophical remarks

2011-11-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:41 AM 11/8/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: I understand why he does not trust people. He has had a painful life and he has often been betrayed and unjustly persecuted. For example, one of the charges they sent him to jail for was defrauding the stockholders. He himself was the only stockholder,

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Interview Questions

2011-11-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:08 PM 11/23/2011, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: And they want $49 to listen to the interview. Annual subscription, surely. Not worth $49 for this one audio only. though. If there's something particular you want to know, I can re-listen and make a closer transcript. (Maybe Bill will relent an

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announcement

2011-11-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:44 AM 11/23/2011, David Roberson wrote:  ... Engineer wrote: (Pssst, Ms. Yugo, we call them "Hyperions" in this forum.) Mr Engineer, e-cats (or energy catalyzers) are e-cats and Hyperions are Hyperions. We can assure you that they are not the same "thing" with just different names. Please

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Interview Questions

2011-11-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Just for completeness : PREMIUM CONTENT Rossi's e-Cat Goes Commercial Italian engineer Andrea Rossi, inventor of the e-Catalyst energy system, talks with EV World about the system's successful test in Bologna and the future of this potentially gam

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Interview Questions

2011-11-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:23 PM 11/23/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Thanks to all who submitted questions. I sent in a collation (extracting ideas) ... including asking for another test.  But with today's response to Brian Josephson I said don't ask him that one.  (I'll put up what I sent in anothe

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Interview Questions

2011-11-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Thanks to all who submitted questions. I sent in a collation (extracting ideas) ... including asking for another test. But with today's response to Brian Josephson I said don't ask him that one. (I'll put up what I sent in another post) Most of what I suggested came up in the interview natur

RE: [Vo]:hydrogen refill

2011-11-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:57 AM 11/23/2011, Robert Leguillon wrote: Yes, he claimed they had to reduce power. Where does it say that they did this by reducing the hydrogen pressure? In the second link that I just posted : "To resolve the issue, the hydrogen pressure in all the reactors was reduced". I guess my

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi replies to Nobel prize winner Brian Josephson (Focus.it)

2011-11-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:41 AM 11/23/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Thanks for the translation, which google garbles. Could you please do the same for the last sentence : Details that do not interest to researchers. "With our equipment we will go in the shed that Rossi makes available to make the measurements -

RE: [Vo]:hydrogen refill

2011-11-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:29 AM 11/23/2011, Robert Leguillon wrote: Where on Earth did you guys get the information that it was running and hydrogen was purged? http://pesn.com/2011/10/31/9501942_After_the_E-Cat_Test--Report_and_Q-A_with_Rossi/ Description of the test installation the one megawatt Energy Catalyz

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen refill

2011-11-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:38 AM 11/23/2011, Gigi DiMarco wrote: I don't know if it was already reported but I found some oddies in the hydrogen consumption October 28th test, from Fioravanti/Rossi's report For Oct 28, don't forget the "restart" -- they started the eCat, it was unstable, so they lowered the hydro

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

2011-11-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At about 17:00 he talks about 3 kinds of skepticism ... some of us at Vortex are "honest skeptics", which is positive. The other two are "Envy" and "Competitors". He politely left off #4 -- snakes. At 20:26 he says he isn't associated with ecat.com ... but this interview predates that : 11/11/1

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

2011-11-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Oh-oh : just started to listen, and at 5:10 he says he burned the INDEX finger of the RIGHT hand. On the Krivit interview he said : At a certain point, the, the temperature raised very suddenly, and, uh, and I had in my, the, the, uh, left finger of, uh, of, uh, the, the, the, the finger of

[Vo]:Tachyonic Neutrinos and the eCat

2011-11-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher
From another forum : "I want to corral some faster-than-light neutrinos to do my stock picks for me." My reply : The financial quants are already laying a dedicated transatlantic fiber cable so they get the news quicker. I'll bet they're talking to folks about how to send messages with neutrin

[Vo]:Re: Randi Video

2011-11-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:25 PM 11/22/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BemTGkjl6U What a surprise ! Gee .. they even made the "University of Baloney" joke.

[Vo]:Randi Video

2011-11-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BemTGkjl6U What a surprise ! (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat  -- Hi, google!)

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

2011-11-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:30 AM 11/22/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: This cannot be a scam! Even MY must be convinced now! Of course it's a scam. It's just a bigger scam. Or not ... I pre-ordered mine.

Re: [Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

2011-11-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:31 PM 11/21/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Just out of curiosity, is there anything written about "nuclear catalysts" other than related to LENR/cold fusion energy generation? I never heard of a nuclear catalyst before Rossi. I've always thought of a catalyst as a substance which changes the ra

Re: [Vo]:Rossi opens 10 KW expression of interest list and sets 10 kW price

2011-11-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher
L KW Total Price including shipping and installation not to exceed $6,000, plus taxes. Total (thermal) power of at least 10 kW, with a COP of at least 6. Unit to conform to all USA, State and Local regulations Unit to conform to USA domestic insurance regulations (Tower Insurance) /s/ Alan J. Flet

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

2011-11-21 Thread Alan J Fletcher
(I decided to bypass the Joshua Cude discussion, to get back to the patent itself) The text of the application is at http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220110255645%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20110255645&RS=DN/20

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Muon Capture v Muon Catalyzed

2011-11-21 Thread Alan J Fletcher
The best I can find on WL (1) is a list of papers at http://muon.npl.washington.edu/exp/MuCap/literature1.html but I don't have access to any of them.  Muon Capture in Hydrogen Experiment A. A. Quaranta, A. Bertin, G. Matone, F. Palmonari, G. Torelli, P. Dalpiaz, A. Placci, E. Zavattini,  Mu

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi replies to my email

2011-11-21 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:31 PM 11/20/2011, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: We are ready to pay you USD250,000 for the 5 diathermic oil E-Cat modules and the control system. Do we now have a workable proposal? Sorry he's ummm ... changed his mind. As always our discussions are Commercial in Confidence." Ummm ... whi

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

2011-11-21 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 08:57 PM 11/20/2011, Joshua Cude wrote: On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: Absolutely!  Widom-Larsen (where an electron combines with a Proton to form a Neutron and a Neutrino). has a critical mass, similar to the Coulomb barrier for regular fusion. Act

Re: [Vo]:Scientists create light from vacuum

2011-11-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:53 AM 11/18/2011, Axil Axil wrote: Scientists create light from vacuum http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-scientists-vacuum.html Note the coincidence ...  www.ecat.com : Magnus Holm has a D.Tech and Niclas Sandström a PhD in elementary particle physics at Chalmers University of Technolo

[Vo]:Rossi Interview Questions *** DO NOT REPLY ON VORTEX ***

2011-11-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
* DO NOT REPLY ON VORTEX Please reply directly to a...@well.com * Suppose you knew someone who has an upcoming skype interview with Rossi, and who asked you for advice on what to ask. I was originally inclined to ask for "one more test" ... but I don't think that would fly. Likewi

Re: [Vo]:Interesting *English* article from Focus.it - letter by Celani to Rossi and Rossi's answer

2011-11-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:24 PM 11/17/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 04:10 PM 11/17/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote:  .. There's a zero missing somewhere :  «We are building a 130 MW thermal plant, made of 13 plant such as the one you saw on October 28th». Andrea Rossi November 18th, 2011 at 5:33 AM November

Re: [Vo]: UK's DECC "Monitoring the sector" (LENR)

2011-11-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 08:53 PM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: In other words, they don't believe Rossi either, on the evidence that he's provided. I personally think their position is way too cover-their-a***///  conservative. They don't even include a more public 1MW acceptance test as a possible trigger. I

Re: [Vo]:From Focus.it Customer? Celani test?

2011-11-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:54 PM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Alan J Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote: He's already said that deliveries to new customers will be in 2 months ... and that he's fully booked (ie 12 more for this one). Sorry but where does he say th

Re: [Vo]:From Focus.it Customer? Celani test?

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:39 PM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: I find that a total cop-out and just more of the same nonsense we've been hearing so much of from Rossi. It says he already proved it, doesn't need to do anything more, demo'd the megawatt plant, he has customers, and commercialization will prove it. H

Re: [Vo]:From Focus.it Customer? Celani test?

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:39 PM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: http://www.focus.it/scienza/dove-va-l-e-cat-e-la-risposta-di-rossi-alla-proposta-di-celani-1203_C12.aspx That link is interesting but hard to follow.  Actually, there's an index tab that gives you the Italian and English versions.  S.A gave the En

Re: [Vo]:Interesting *English* article from Focus.it - letter by Celani to Rossi and Rossi's answer

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:10 PM 11/17/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote:  .. There's a zero missing somewhere : WHO IS THE CUSTOMER?Customer's spokesman,Domenico Fioravanti, retired colonel of the Genio, doesn't tell anything that would be revealing of its identity, but is Rossi himself who gives Focus something more: «We

Re: [Vo]:Interesting *English* article from Focus.it - letter by Celani to Rossi and Rossi's answer

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:10 PM 11/17/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: ... I guess we all got the alert. Any bets on how many more posts are in the pipeline?

[Vo]:Re: From Focus.it Customer? Celani test? NO!

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:12 PM 11/17/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: http://www.focus.it/scienza/dove-va-l-e-cat-e-la-risposta-di-rossi-alla-proposta-di-celani-1203_C12.aspx Information about the customer. Possible new test by Celani A few links later, Rossi says no more tests.

[Vo]:From Focus.it Customer? Celani test?

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://www.focus.it/scienza/dove-va-l-e-cat-e-la-risposta-di-rossi-alla-proposta-di-celani-1203_C12.aspx Information about the customer. Possible new test by Celani I got an email ... maybe Raymond Zreick will comment further (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat  -- Hi, google!

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:55 PM 11/17/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 12:25 PM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: No secrets-- just results in terms of methods used, instruments used, raw data obtained and computed results. No gamma spectrum or anything else he supposedly objects to. You demand the trade secrets of

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:25 PM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: No secrets-- just results in terms of methods used, instruments used, raw data obtained and computed results. No gamma spectrum or anything else he supposedly objects to. You demand the trade secrets of everything you buy? I thought you'd be happy if

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:45 AM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: I believe that is what the demand for independent university or government tests are for. If he offered to sell you one, on condition that you could test it to your satisfaction before paying (clams?), would you buy it?

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Radio

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:15 PM 11/16/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Good job. Thanks ... I was just defending my honour, though ! It is hard to keep track of these details, isn't it? Yup.  Any chance of asking Celani to ask Galantini if he brought the Delta Ohm "Steam Quality" stuff? http://sverigesradio.se/sida/grupps

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

2011-11-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:40 AM 11/17/2011, Joshua Cude wrote: Or use two ecats. Then of course you'd need someone independent to select which one to use for the blank run. Solves nothing. In fact, nor does my proposed protocol. Rossi just "turns on" the fakium for the live run, and leaves it off for the "blank

Re: [Vo]:Blank Run Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Coming in late on the blank debate. I have no objection to a blank, but if I only had limited time I'd go with a longer live-run, particularly if self-sustained. But if you WANT a blank/dry run, I suggest the following protocol. 1. Rossi prepares the ecat, charged with Nickel and Hydrogen 2.

Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos seems to be upset at U of Bologna

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:02 PM 11/16/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote By the way, Stremmenos writes in difficult Italian, even for native speakers. HE thinks in Greek, which he then translates to Italian. Rossi does the same thing with Italian/English. I wonder how they manage to get along!

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Radio

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Final version 1 is at http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_eai_table.php I added Krivit's demo, Links, Mat's emails and a few details.

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:24 PM 11/16/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: 2)  Take a look at the exhaust cap.  A genset running full bore vent cap will be at a 90 degree angle to the exhaust pipe.  In Mat's vid, it looks to be at about 80 degrees or less.  A genset exhaust vent cap will open this wide on idle.  Sure, a small

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor : no bottom fins, parallel cores

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
a) Why no bottom heat exchanger fins? Rossi said a long time ago that the Gamma thermalization was partly in the lead shielding. In the original tubular ecats the lead was probably in contact with the copper pipe. I would expect the bottom lead to need fins. (I'd put them back, with a "?")

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat's Big Scientific Coincidence?

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:53 PM 11/16/2011, James Bowery wrote: The Ni Curie temperature may explain it.  The core temperature is what I am thinking about when I talk about the "coincidence" (understanding that we don't have direct read-outs from it).  So if it is some sort of ferromagnetic transition phenomenon, th

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Radio

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
That link got snipped away : I haven't answered that yet --- but I've prepared a table of Experiments/Attendees and Instruments http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_eai_table.php which IMHO substantially supports my comment. Comments, clarifications and corrections are appreciated.

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Radio

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:52 AM 11/16/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I haven't answered that yet --- but I've prepared a table of Experiments/Attendees and Instruments http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_eai_table.php which IMHO substantially supports my comment. Comments, clarifications and corre

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat's Big Scientific Coincidence?

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:32 AM 11/16/2011, James Bowery wrote: Is there a plausible explanation for why the temperature at which reaction initiates in the E-Cat just happens to be so close to the boiling point of water? Mostly coincidence, but it also represents the point at which the entire system has heated u

[Vo]:Swedish Radio

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
The discussion on the Swedish Radio issue has concentrated on the "scam" elements. Krivit : Swedish Public Radio Turns Spotlight on Lewan and Ny Teknik < http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/12/swedish-public-radio-turns-spotlight-on-lewan-and-ny-teknik/ > Source: Radio Sweden < http://sveriges

Re: [Vo]:Stop Destroying Keyboards

2011-11-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 06:02 PM 11/15/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: and selected scientists to a demo of that device at which they were not allowed to oversee data collection?  http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg41536.html [Vo]:Celani's report on Rossi January 14 test Jed Rothwell Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:58:2

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion - thoughts

2011-11-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:55 PM 11/15/2011, Joshua Cude wrote: Right. They say Rossi has not produced fusion. That destroys the parallel, because it was obvious that Edison *had* produced incandescent lights. What wasn't obvious was that he could make it practical. If scientists thought Rossi had cold fusion, they

Re: [Vo]:Stop Destroying Keyboards

2011-11-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:31 AM 11/15/2011, James Bowery wrote: The pseudoskeptics continually assert that their criticism of those who are investigating Rossi's claims has nothing to do with whether Pons and Fleischmann had any validity to their claims.  This rhetorical maneuver denies the obvious Bayesian law of p

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

2011-11-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:52 PM 11/14/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote: Probably this one: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/NRELenergyover.pdf See the last page, from Lawrence Livermore. I have seen more recent ones, and some with more data, but I like this representation. I am b

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Radio : advertising a scam ?

2011-11-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:10 PM 11/12/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: I'm beginning to see why you've been banned from so many forums.  Sorry, I don't keep track.   How many was that and which ones if you know? And were they all run by fervent believe

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

2011-11-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
That reminds me ... about a month ago you put up a DOE (?) report with lots of charts about energy usage. But I can't find it in my vortex files or on lenr-cad. (I don't know if there's a name for that kind of chart .. a bit like the famous Napoleon chart, showing the energy flow divided up i

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.

2011-11-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:59 AM 11/14/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: hey also said they would soon make a megawatt plant and give the excess heat to the Police Academy **this winter**. It's almost winter. How soon people forget. U ... on this one I don't. The 1MW the were planning to use is the one they intended t

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.

2011-11-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:54 AM 11/14/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Absent specifications and independent test results, it's all pure guesswork! On this one I agree with you ... absent even a "witnessed demonstration".

Re: [Vo]:Oct 6 Heat Exchanger Coulda/Shoulda Results

2011-11-11 Thread Alan J Fletcher
While looking for an online heat loss calculator, I came across these great tools : http://www.hunterproducts.com/calculator.html http://www.hunterproducts.com/images/image_calculator.jpg

Re: [Vo]:Oct 6 Heat Exchanger Coulda/Shoulda Results

2011-11-11 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:36 PM 11/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I've updated http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_oct11_spice.php to reflect a 20% possible error in Delta-T. I don't know why Rossi ran with such a small delta-T (6 C). I re-ran the simulation assuming 1/8 the flow, and the Seconda

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor -- Reactor Volume ?

2011-11-11 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:16 AM 11/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/Higgins%20Oct%206%2027kWreactorDiagram4.png Do we have any agreement on the volume of the REACTOR (excluding fins). Lewan gives the total volume as 50 x 60 x 35 Lewan says the reactor is 30 x 30 x 30 -- Including fins S

Re: [Vo]:Minor progress

2011-11-11 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 08:54 AM 11/11/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: To sum up, the problem with Rossi's story is that there are too many things that don't hang together. The short runs, Lewan called the end of the first self-sustaining experiment. Oct 6 was also done to a timetable, allowing for weighing at the beginni

Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade

2011-11-11 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:52 AM 11/11/2011, Vorl Bek wrote: The demo that Nelson saw was not convincing, at least to Nelson: Nelson wanted to see a longer demo. Apparently he would have been able to do without sleep, or would have stood shifts with a colleague. Presumably, Rossi, who wants to make money, knew that

Re: [Vo]:Oct 6 Heat Exchanger Manifold Thermocouple Placement.

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I've updated http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_oct11_spice.php to reflect a 20% possible error in Delta-T.

Re: [Vo]:Oct 6 Heat Exchanger Manifold Thermocouple Placement.

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:57 PM 11/10/2011, David Roberson wrote: The error in thermocouple reading is far larger than suggested.  The best place to get an accuracy check is when Mats Lewan measured the water output flow from the heat exchanger at 18:57 during the October 6 test. He carefully measured the water out

[Vo]:Oct 6 Heat Exchanger Manifold Thermocouple Placement.

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
My latest Spice Simulation results, using Bob Higgins' diagram, gives an error of +3.8 % This is probably LESS than the modelling errors. http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_oct11_spice.php Main screenshot : http://lenr.qumbu.com/lenr_spicepics/09_spice_007.png Primary Input (HOT): 100 C wa

Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:38 PM 11/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote: AND Krivit invoked Godwin's Law . Actually, you invoked Godwin's law, a.k.a. Reductio ad Hitlerum. Krivit . . . embodied it? Violated it? Triggered it? Not sure what the right verb would be. K

Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:48 PM 11/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is a similar loaded question: Q: Why does Obama refuse to show his birth certificate? A: He did show his birth certificate. This question incorporates a falsehood. I finally have convergence between my OTHER "Conspiracy Theory" (with hard-code

Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Sterling Allan: Arm-in-Arm with Andrea Rossi and others The Big Lie Technique of Scammers, Courtesy of Adolf Hitler

Re: [Vo]:NASA officially responds to an FOIA request that Rossi has never proved his claim

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:41 AM 11/10/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/10/nasa-engineer-explains-why-rossi-demos-failed/ At the Sept. 22, 2011 LENR Workshop at NASA Glenn Research Center, Nelson explained that Rossi "would need to run [his experiment] for eight hours or more with a s

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:49 AM 11/10/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Using Windows, you can make the Euro symbol by holding down the alt key and pressing 0128 on the numerical keyboard. € The Euro's going away so soon that I don't need to remember

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:23 AM 11/10/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Are there better images of the interior that maybe I missed? Or a written report from a first person experience I can read somewhere? I am skeptical that anyone really got a good look at fine interior details and, in this day of tiny easily handled di

RE: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:28 AM 11/10/2011, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: I presume when you say "hot input" you are referring to the top T fitting that is the water/steam outlet. Where is the evidence that it "IS" 3 bar? Have you identified the part used? The operating steam temperatures are more consistent with o

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:12 AM 11/10/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Hi MY ... you're all over the web !!! In the older small (but allegedly powerful) E-cats, the main (largest and probably most powerful) heater has always heated the cooling water! This is evident because it's wrapped around the *exterior* of the E-cat

[Vo]:1MW sold out ? $160 M to $500 M sales ?

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Andrea Rossi November 10th, 2011 at 11:11 AM Dear Wladimir Guglinski: So far we are manufacturing 1 MW plants, and our next 2 years capacity of production has been already saturated. For the small units we need at least 1-2 years for the approvals.  Warm Regards, A.R. Andrea Rossi Octo

Re: [Vo]:New diagram of Rossi reactor

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:16 AM 11/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: See http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/Higgins%20Oct%206%2027kWreactorDiagram4.png a) Why no bottom heat exchanger fins?  Rossi said a long time ago that the Gamma thermalization was partly in the lead shielding. In the original tubular ecats the lead wa

Re: [Vo]:Inside the inner box

2011-11-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 08:38 PM 11/9/2011, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: I also suggest as he said the 1 MW demo was only running on 1 core per module, he has a was to activate and deactivate the internal cores as desired. Rossi said (someone reported?) that they started the 1MW with a "full" load of hydrogen, but it

Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade

2011-11-09 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Poor Journalism by Fox News on Rossi Story Poor Journalism by Physorg on Rossi Story Poor Journalism by Wired U.K. on Ros

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi: NO MORE TESTS and other stuff (revisited)

2011-11-09 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Andrea Rossi November 9th, 2011 at 2:47 PM Dear UClaimExcessEnergy: Again lecturing about tests !!! We receive 5 to 10 proposals per day to make tests around the world, most of them from competitors, of course. Please, read carefully: 1- we made all the tests we had to make 2- no more public t

Re: [Vo]:Wired UK / Nov 6 - Mills,Crude,Maryugo,Krivit chime in ...

2011-11-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Feudian slip ... Cude, not Crude. MaryYugo

Re: [Vo]:Wired UK / Nov 6 - Mills,Crude,Maryugo,Krivit chime in ...

2011-11-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:58 PM 11/8/2011, Rich Murray wrote: Joshua Cude, MaryYugo, Steven B. Krivit, and Engineer offer very cogent critical posts in the 3 pages of comments in three days. "Engineer" doesn't seem to be.

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