Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Wesley Bruce's message of Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:09:42
+1100:
Hi,
[snip]
Firstly the ISS is the dry dock not the ship. It is actually doing quite
a lot of quiet science; learning to live in space *was* the original
objective.
The ISS would not survive a
thomas malloy wrote:
Bruce posted;
Don't call me bruce! Call me wes!
Podkletnov's device could be made into a
reactionless drive if we can get reliable mass production of his disks
and steady high voltage power supply. I'm in corrispondance with Dr
Podklenov
This is very interesting. Have
Standing Bear wrote:
[Big snip]
Don't panic about a chinese space race. I suspect that if China really
gets going it will spell the end of communism. People are dropping out
of the party buy the millions. To many chinese who see the opportunities
of space, are also able to see that gulags
Firstly the ISS is the dry dock not the ship. It is actually doing quite
a lot of quiet science; learning to live in space *was* the original
objective.
The ISS would not survive a trip to Mars. It would not survive the
required acceleration, and it would not carry enough supplys to make the
That's the key. JP aerospace to orbit; people and supplies. A Heavy lift
craft for anything bigger. Podkletnov's device could be made into a
reactionless drive if we can get reliable mass production of his disks
and steady high voltage power supply. I'm in corrispondance with Dr
Podklenov.
Jed Rothwell wrote:
The Google Alerts program brought me the following link:
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051024/full/4371224a.html
I am not a subscriber to nature.com, so I do not know what the article
says, but Google brought me a partial quote:
Physics: Far from the frontier
Jones Beene wrote:
Wesley Bruce
Are you aware of the bio-methane projects of the 1970's? See page 15
of this PDF
http://www.pacaqua.org/Documents/Marine_Macroalgae_Culture.pdf
Thanks! I had forgotten about this. The whole document is interesting
for both vegitarians and anti-oil
I believe Brazil already has floating oil fired power station or two on
the amazon river. It was used to power mining operations originally.
Jones Beene wrote:
Below are the headlines that got me originally thinking about a
floating nuclear-powered ethanol + fertilizer plant ...but the FFF
Are you aware of the bio-methane projects of the 1970's? See page 15 of
this PDF http://www.pacaqua.org/Documents/Marine_Macroalgae_Culture.pdf
I would love to renew this project in a much smaller and scalable form
with electric pumps powered by the methane. The methane can be reacted
with CO
OrionWorks wrote:
I'm getting off-topic here (my apologies) but I couldn't resist bringing up a fascinating
speculative book on human evolution I read back in the late 60s, The Naked
Ape by Desmond Morris. In one of Desmond's chapters he made what I thought were
convincing speculations
Excellent case below mate, you should publish it in Infinite Energy or
somewhere. Have you considered the national oil stockpiles. Big
underground tanks in the desert. The transition from oil fired
industrial base to a fusion powered one may drive cash strapped
governments into a fire sale of
Jones Beene wrote:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16679599%255E30417,00.html
Trials have shown that the plant flourishes on most arable land,
requires no fertilizer, suffers no pests or diseases, and produces
huge volumes of material that can be harvested
Jones Beene wrote:
Q: w'ssup with YIng-Yang these days?
The east-west, the old-new, and the overlooked premise that value
not efficiency rules in the free-market these days/
ANS: Flashback to Type-A Mister R. [seriously advising a young
Type-B++ Benjamin Braddock, who has his mind on
Reading Jed's post about a popular book with the title: The Long
Emergency: Surviving the Converging Catastrophes of the Twenty-First
Century brought to mind another grim flash - a possible omen of
things to come - which crossed through the normal fog of cognitive
dissonance recently.
Ever
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Wesley Bruce's message of Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:19:41
+1000:
Hi,
[snip]
A key to space elevators, solar chimney technologies and big flying jet
stream windmills is *zero weight building materials*. I have a design
for such a material; an expanded foam
Another Trompe paper, much more up to date.
http://www.engineering.lancs.ac.uk/REGROUPS/LUREG/papers/WREC2005/FCT-WIDDEN.pdf
While most alternative energy technologies won't compete with with cold
fusion when it arrives; maintainance free systems like the trompe, roof
top solar, solar windows
Third trombe paper. More details on the trombe and siphon systems being
designed by the Engineering Department at Lancaster University.
http://www.engineering.lancs.ac.uk/REGROUPS/LUREG/Research%20Home.htm
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Wesley Bruce's message of Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:16:29
+1000:
Hi,
[snip]
A key to space elevators, solar chimney technologies and big flying jet
stream windmills is *zero weight building materials*. I have a design
for such a material; an expanded foam
Standing Bear wrote:
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 20:15, Wesley Bruce wrote:
Alex Caliostro wrote:
set the controls for the heart of the sun
2000 miles in a cramped position
http://www.wsc.org.au/2005/competition/
any of our friends downunder know whos leading
_
-alex
Alex Caliostro wrote:
set the controls for the heart of the sun
2000 miles in a cramped position
http://www.wsc.org.au/2005/competition/
any of our friends downunder know whos leading
_
-alex
_
Express yourself instantly
Jones Beene wrote:
Tony Blair said what?
Oy veh! My experts must have missed that patent
http://tinyurl.com/dmcpe
OK let me check my chemistry. Hydrocarbon plus water to CO2 and
hydrogen. The reformer uses energy so it can't be more efficient than
say a normal car and its still making
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:
Vertical axis turbines are artistic, in a techie way Claim is -
to survive hurricanes.
Conventional large-scale wind turbines easily survive hurricanes. The
propellers are automatically feathered in high winds. In normal
operations, the
Nick Palmer wrote:
rumor is that these guys are shipping product
Alex, if this was real the world would be beating a path to their
door. By the time we heard about it, it would be big, the following
day it would be huge, a week later it would be gigantic. One month
afterwards, the world
A rich city does not automatically make you a rich man. Cash flow
problems and debts can make life miserable. Think of it as an
investment. The nano people have research money to throw around. If we
help out steven we might just find some coming our way. Hint hint. ;-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can remember when the biowarfare lab was on [or under] some remote
farm in the desert somewhere. Dam those budget cuts now we're having to
do it in Jersy.
Alex Caliostro wrote:
From: Jones Beene
Not to mention One suspects that the strain of plague which
they have on hand at these
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Woman complains to cops after hitman she hired fails to get the job
done
See:
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20050915p2a00m0na003000c.html
A woman who hired a hitman to murder the wife of her lover, and then
complained to police when he didn't do the job,
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Either that, or a joke. See:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050916/od_nm/australia_electricity_dc;_ylt=AnSncsPmBadIcUXBllHNhE.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ
SYDNEY (Reuters) - An Australian man built up a 40,000-volt charge of
static electricity in his clothes as
OrionWorks wrote:
From: Harry Veeder
The philosophy underpinning free energy research does not
subscribe to the principle that it is possible to get
something FROM nothing. It subscribes to the principle
that it is possible and SOMETIMES preferable to get
something BY DOING nothing.
Harry Veeder wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
From: Harry Veeder
The philosophy underpinning free energy research does not
subscribe to the principle that it is possible to get
something FROM nothing. It subscribes to the principle
that it is possible and SOMETIMES preferable to get
Harry Veeder wrote:
Evidence that lifters follow unconventional physics:
http://jlnlabs.imars.com/lifters/vacuum/index.htm
Harry
That's convincing! We need to get a power source that will power the
thing. Counting the power source transformers into the payload
capacity is the
OrionWorks wrote:
Jed sez:
...
I mean hand warmers. Disposable chemical pocket warmers. Little plastic
bags full of chemicals, mostly iron filings, I think. You smoosh or bend
the bag to mix the chemicals, and it gets hot for several hours. I guess it
puts out a couple of watts. I
Alex Caliostro wrote:
my friend is a CE who claims most oil is not from dead dinosaurs
he says this paper
http://gasresources.net/AlkaneGenesis.htm
proves it - here is a quote from the abstract
The high-pressure genesis of petroleum hydrocarbons has been
demonstrated using only the solid
thomas malloy wrote:
Having read what was posted, I've decided to write a synopsis. I am
submitting this to the list for comment.
Access to heavy water has been made more difficult, however if you can
demonstrate that you are a legitimate scientist, you can procure it.
There is no
Alex Caliostro wrote:
From: Wesley Bruce
We have another problem with shallow oil. Bacteria feeding on the
fossil fuels can transport and add new carbon 14 to the other wise
old oil.
oh, yes - there is even one theory that bacteria could be involved in
the creation of oil
It's
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Researchers at Georgia Tech (rah, rah!) believe that global warming is
causing stronger hurricanes. See:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8002
Other articles have pointed out that other factors are at work, such
as a natural 20-year cycle, but these factors
Harry Veeder wrote:
Jed Rothwell wrote:
No one here has mentioned a conspiracy. Frankly, I am sick of being accused
of conspiracy theories. Suppression and conspiracy are two separate and
unrelated concepts. A conspiracy is organized, covert, and conducted by a
small number of people. The
Bob Fickle wrote:
For cooling, you'd want a well-insulated flat plate solar
collector. This would provide a large surface for radiating heat into
the sky at a wide range of angles. You wouldn't want a low-E surface
on the panel, because this prevents radiative cooling. My first
experiment
*_Getting up a head of steam._*
May people in cold fusion have missed a key engineering point about
proving CF/Lenr works; we don't need 100% repeatable, or 100%
reproducible to make steam. Steam is what the world is waiting for. It
wont make the extreme sceptics believe, nothing will.
We
OrionWorks wrote:
From: Mitchell Swartz
At 11:56 PM 9/13/2005, Ed Storms inaccurately pontificates:
Michael Foster wrote:
Is Ed Storms actually a Super Double Secret Dysinformation
Agent who has penetrated the white knights of Vortex-L?
...
Storms: This is not true, a
Harry Veeder wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has heard about this lifter experiment
which purports to show that there is no new physics associated
with lifters.
http://www.blazelabs.com/l-vacuum.asp
If so, do you feel the experiment is definitive?
Harry
Metalic vacuum vessels and
Harry Veeder wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
From: Harry Veeder
I was wondering if anyone has heard about this lifter experiment which
purports to show that there is no new physics associated with lifters.
http://www.blazelabs.com/l-vacuum.asp
If so, do you feel the experiment is definitive?
thomas malloy wrote:
IMHO, the idea of our eliminating oil use is an idea worthy of Analog
or Amazing Stories.
I listened to Matt, the author of this website, interviewed on C to C
AM. He contends that the fractional banking system and by extension
the American economy is being kept afloat
thomas malloy wrote:
Parksie was up to his usual shtick. IMHO, you have to be blind in
order to miss that the biological mechanism is just a container for
the soul. Consequently a Chimp may share 99% of it's DNA with us, but
it lacks the thing which makes us human, a soul. This is the same
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Just like us, almost. See:
http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,68706,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_10
QUOTE:
[Human and chimp] DNA remains highly similar -- about 96 percent to
almost 99 percent identical, depending on how the comparison is made.
Still, the number of
We wont totally eliminate oil. There will always be car enthusiasts. My
father is restoring a 1920's Bullnose Morris truck. When I suggested
converting it to Cold Fusion he threatened me with grievous bodily harm.
;-)He was just kidding I hope.
Oil based fuel will become an boutique energy
The two catches with Electric cars.
* The batteries have to be anchored in such a way that they don't go
flying around in a crash. This means that most retrofits are
illegal and factory built EV have to be reinforced heavily. Its a
major cost and design problem.
* The
Mike Carrell wrote:
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OFF TOPIC Chimpanzee genome decoded
Just like us, almost. See:
http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,68706,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_10
QUOTE:
[Human and chimp] DNA remains highly similar -- about 96 percent to
If you want the die hards to evacuate the best measure is to hand out
air and water tight and lockable safes that can take the DVD and and
other valuables. They need to be able to take the stuff with them or
bolt the safe to the structure of the house. Those that will not leave
New Orleans
RC Macaulay wrote:
A few years back A flood caught Houston sleeping. Flood water entered
the basements of major building and hospitals. These facilities all
had standby diesel powered electric generators located in the basement
adjacent to the incoming underground electric power service and
Jed Rothwell wrote:
I mentioned the other day that a tremendous typhoon was approaching
Japan. It struck the southwest islands about 12 hours ago, and it is
just passing out to sea again. It may hit Hokkaido later. It covers
one of the largest areas on record, and in some areas it produced
Jed Rothwell wrote:
I wrote:
It covers one of the largest areas on record, and in some areas it
produced 1300 mm of rain in a 24-hour period, the most ever recorded
in Japan.
Correction: That was 1300 mm in a 72 hour period, from the time the
rain began until the typhoon passed. This was
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Frederick Sparber wrote:
This is sickening. 'State of Fear' is a valuable education in the
guise of entertainment. Do yourself a favor and buy it.
God help us!
That is a prayer,isn't it?
It is a mere figure of speech, as Stalin probably told Churchill. (I
think it
Vince Cockeram wrote:
- Original Message - From: Wesley Bruce
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If the black box records a catholic pilot during a plane crash saying
Oh God, oh God, oh God he's deemed a sad hero.
If a Muslim pilot is recorded saying the same thing he's deemed a
suicidal terrorist
I like your argument but the idea of a system that self winds at the
level on gravity potentials may be looking at the wrong level. May
science fiction writers have argued in favor of civilizations that can
manipulate the cosmos technologically. God may indeed have added a
winder to the
Jed have you looked at Dr John Bockris' work on solar hydrogen. The
solar chimny technology in deserts even at halve the size and power
output numbers of the original solar hydrogen book would work given some
of the inovations that have come up since. Solar hydrogen has been
getting less press
I did't know you had a rural section of the coastline. I look at google
sat maps from earlier this year and its just a string of suburbs from
Texus to florida.
http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=mapq=New+Orleans,+LA has an up to date
sat photo of the damaged CBD. Click on 'Katrina'.
Jed Rothwell
Well almost. Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr is putting in the boot on the
states poor response to Katrina.
http://www.mises.org/story/1902
Terry Blanton wrote:
This report was issued late last year. It's an accessment of what would have happened to NOLA had hurricane Ivan hit. Shirley hit it right on and made recommendations. She also forecast 40 to 60,000 dead.
Now they are admitting that thousands could be dead. Whispers
When we invent our colf fusion reactors, ZPE generators, searl
generators, or whatever. Please remember New Orleans and make sure all
makes and models of new energy powerplants are water and mud proof. It's
not that hard to design water proof powerplants if we think it through
from the start.
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Thomas malloy wrote:
Jed posted on an article published in the New Republic putting down
cold fusion. The article is available by subscription only, however
he posted the following URL
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16414974%5E28737,00.html
RC Macaulay wrote:
Watching the unrestrained looting via TV in New Orleans can give one
an insight why the people need the right to keep and bare arms. In
times of great calamities, people show their base instincts were it
good or evil.
The police cannot cope with mass looting of this
Jed Rothwell wrote:
John Coviello wrote:
1st time martial law has been declared since WW2.
Martial law has been declared many times, especially during the
rioting in the 1960s. I do not know whether it has been declared after
natural disasters, but I expect it has been.
This storm was
Jed Rothwell wrote:
RC Macaulay wrote:
Watching the unrestrained looting via TV in New Orleans can give one
an insight why the people need the right to keep and bare arms.
Yes, short sleeve shirts are de rigueur for events of this nature.
Seriously, I do not see why we need guns in
The military are favoring smaller and smaller bomb now that we have GPS
accuracy. Big EVO bombs are unlikely. By the way wont it tend to work
like lightening in a bottle? Zzzot instead of Boom. More like a
Traveller plasma bazooka than a nuke.
Michael Huffman wrote:
Mark Goldes wrote:
An interesting addition on the peak oil debate.
http://www.mises.org/story/1892
Steven Krivit wrote:
Seems they have begun their own research re: Hubbert Peak and the
truth about our oil supply and are realizing that they will never see
$2/gal gas again. Many are dumping their SUVs and
The Aussy CSIRO end of the breakthrough is at:
http://www.csiro.au/index.asp?type=mediareleaseid=153nanojoint
and
http://www.tft.csiro.au/main.htm
and
http://www.tft.csiro.au/research/pdf/KenAtkinsonCarbonNaontubes1358.pdf
Aussys rule!!! :o
I'm biased. I'm an Aussy and I live near the CSIRO
or better with Iraq.
Edmund Storms wrote:
Wesley Bruce wrote:
I can agree with all of what you've said below. I'm assuming that if
'we' pull out there will be no US or Aussy air power involved. the
Iraqi air force is in pieces so Syria and Iran would back oposite
sides and throw
I value the truth but I also know that if we pull out now about 5
million people will die in the bloodiest civil war in middle east
history. It would quickly involve Syria, Iran, Jordan and might spill
over into turkey and Saudi Arabia. We needed to take out Saddam
regardless of his success or
will be less lethal but I can't see how a poorly planned pull out would
help.
Edmund Storms wrote:
Wesley Bruce wrote:
I value the truth but I also know that if we pull out now about 5
million people will die in the bloodiest civil war in middle east
history. It would quickly involve Syria, Iran
Steven Krivit wrote:
http://newenergytimes.com/Library/2005KrivitS-HowCanItBeReal-Paper.pdf
http://newenergytimes.com/Library/2005KrivitS-HowCanItBeReal-Presentation.pdf
Steven the caltech data table, slide 9 of the power point, has two Pin
columns. Should the first be a Pout? Is this error
I can't fault your argument but several things should be noted.
* Royal Dutch shell is also the largest solar power player and a
very big portion of its profits come from solar cells on millions
of thatched third world rooves. The Australian arm of the company
claims that the
That's not even half new. I have papers from 8 years ago with the same
basic theory. The earliest papers date from 1988. Fusion Facts had
articles on this work back in the 1990's. The original idea comes from
the soviet dissident scientist Andrei Sakharov back in the 1960's. When
I argued in
Steven Krivit wrote:
Hello again Wesley...
Thanks so much for your thoughtful contributions. I don't know if I'll
be able to integrate all of them for this piece.
I've added in some of those answers to yours. Can the answers be too
long?
Yeah. It's gotta be as direct and succinct as
Steven Krivit wrote:
At 07:38 PM 8/13/2005, you wrote:
- Original Message -
*From:* RC Macaulay mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* Steve Krivit mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:15 PM
*Subject:* Cold Fusion myths
Steve,
The list reads well.
Hi Richard,
Steven Krivit wrote:
Dear Vorts,
Would you please take a look at these and provide me with any critique
you may have, and also advise me if I am missing any?
Feedback within 48 hours will be most useful, though I will also
appreciate feedback at any time.
thomas malloy wrote:
The company promoting the design asserted
Rockets, widely recognized as the most efficient engines, are
typically propelled by steam. Based on
Is that BS I smell? This is the first time I've heard that assertion,
I would think that it would be quite the opposite.
If
I knew someone and Aussy POW in Japan when the bomb dropped. He was a
bit of a historian. He said that there were conflicts between
pro-emporer and pro- Tojo diplomats and security officers. The generals
knew they faced the noose with any kind of surrender. Those sending
peace messages on the
The talk origins paper is good but it does not look at the infant
appendix which is proportionally larger than the adult appendix. It
stops growing at about age 3 while everything else keeps growing. Talk
origins may choose to mention that fact some day. Here's what the
creationist have to
!
They forgot to look up the laws of themodynamics again I guess.
Mike Carrell wrote:
From: Wesley Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Engine claims to recover low-grade and waste heat
snip
The bigger loss with this linear motor design is that part of the
combustion energy is wasted slowing
Terry sez
BTW for the 'Revelationists' out there... Tel Aviv
is only an hour's drive from Megiddo... and I
suppose you know the significance of that.
16:16 to be exact. Although, I am *not* a believer:
And he gathered them together into a place called in
the Hebrew tongue
Exciting bedtime stores! Ought to put me to sleep at night in no time.
Surely someone has done the math to calculate just how much volumetric space
would be necessary to house all the animals that marched into the Ark
two-by-two. And don't forget all of their specific dietary needs. Glad I
From the Mises blog:
http://blog.mises.org/blog/archives/003927.asp
* Following Ben Bernanke, the chairman of the Council of Economic
Advisers, in his testimony to the Congress on July 20,2005, Fed
Chairman Alan Greenspan said
http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/hh/2005/july/testimony.htm
space junk may not be able track such a
small craft.
A mirror on the thing so a ladar on the station can track it is one
option. A GPS relay chip is another.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Wesley Bruce
...
Steven You've missed a vital point of Hal 's work he argues that
the energy
That's not even new. Aluminum air batteries have been around for a
century but as they charge and discharge they form crystals in the
electrolyte that short the cell out eventually. The solution is naopore
polymer that allows free ion flow while preventing crystal formation.
One company is
lawless
frontier of waring submarine miners and radical utopian colonies may
still lie ahead.
Jones Beene wrote:
- Original Message - From: Wesley Bruce
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's the cheapest way to sequest a ton of carbon? Bury 1.5 tons of
waste plastic! It'll be there for centuries
Jean-Louis Naudin's stirling engine running on a glow discharge,
tungsten welding rods in potassium Carbonate_** _** , looks good. It's
2003 work but the web site is relativily new. Except for the web page
glitchs Steven noted is there any problem with naudin's work. The
demonstration is
I've sent this to a themo-electric generator supplier in the USA.
I am looking for a water to water themoelectric generator capable of
running good efficency at the temperature ranges of 90 C to 150 C; the
hot side 90 to 150 C, cold side = just above tap water.
We have a small heat
I know the demo is dodgy; most of the heats going up not down! and yes I
could do that with a cup of coffee. We need to build a real heat engine
demo unit.
I know its not a good demo of the basic glow discharge work but could we
make that Stirling run on something? A real CF cell.
It's the
Black light powers Randell Mills is very smart he went around the US
patent embargo by filing in Australia. Aussy's will rule the global;
energy market. Now if I could only convince a few other Aussys,
including the PM that Its real.
RC Macaulay wrote:
Mike Carrell wrote..
MC: I repeat.
Steven You've missed a vital point of Hal 's work he argues that the
energy emited is ZPE and that an orbiting electron is both a sorce and
sink for ZPE. Its got more complex since then. See:
http://www.calphysics.org/research.html
and
http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html
On Monday 25 July
What's the cheapest way to sequest a ton of carbon? Bury 1.5 tons of
waste plastic! It'll be there for centuries.
Mike Carrell wrote:
Blank
- Original Message -
From: RC Macaulay
Subject: Re: Ed's Stroms hope
Mike Carrell
Guess what, guys, recycling is a complex, nasty
debate with most people left happy.
If I make any money out of what I know about LENR, which is more that
all the professors in town, I'll invest a little in sorting out the
Abortion problem.
Edmund Storms wrote:
Wesley Bruce wrote:
Well said Ed.
I come from a church background so I guess
One way to defuse the hot fusion critics is to point out how close they
are to having a workable plasma rocket. Their skills in plasma
engineering could be so usefully if they stopped banging their head
against the wall of stable fusion breakeven and simply uses cold fusion
powered plasma
they
don't take the wrong side of things when cold fusion 'pops out of the
box' and surprises millions.
Edmund Storms wrote:
Wesley Bruce wrote:
Jed and Ed interesting string. I happen to have a degree that
includes both the economics and environmental subjects your covering.
I've learned
What's the key to recycling? The energy and transport costs involved.
Distributed resources have a large transport energy cost. If CF reduces
energy costs in transport by 60%, as Jed says it should, a lot of
recycling will become viable.
RC Macaulay wrote:
Ed Storms wrote in the are things
Mike your perfectly correct but there's a push in industry to design
easily recyclable things from computers to fridges to cars. The key is
to not mix things up so they can be pulled apart by a single person with
some hand tools or a robot built for the job. There's an amazing amount
of RD
I'm attending an Australian Mars Society conference AMEC 2005 on Mars
rovers and exploration.
http://www.marssociety.org.au/
I'm going to mention LENR to those at the conference. There is still an
opening for papers so it may be semiformal presentation. Is there
anything I specifically should
- Original Message -
From: Wesley Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 4:48 PM
Subject: mars rovers
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