In reply to AlanG's message of Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:44:26 -0800:
Hi Alan,
Have you taken account of Hydrogen absorption by the rod?
My final report on the pressure is now available at
http://tinyurl.com/pdrd224
It includes corrections for thermal expansion and the van der Waals
effect. Your
No. We discussed absorption by Ni and concluded that it would be minimal
given the short duration of the test. I'd love to see evidence to the
contrary, and our next test series will include a pressure sensor to
watch for it.
AlanG
On 2/20/2015 4:01 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to
with temperature due to thermal expansion
of the alumina tube and the added materials inside the tube.
Bob
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*From:* Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:08 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
Mark,
Alan Goldwater is working on a complete description of this that is being
reviewed. One thing I recently added was the 2-volume, 2-temperature
calculation, which, even
Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:35 AM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
I received the broken shards of the alumina tube from the MFMP
Parkhomov-like experiment from Ryan Hunt. The intent was to have analyzed
My final report on the pressure is now available at
http://tinyurl.com/pdrd224
It includes corrections for thermal expansion and the van der Waals
effect. Your comments and suggestions will be welcome as always.
AlanG
On 2/20/2015 8:28 AM, Bob Higgins wrote:
Yes Bob, Thanks.
The effect
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http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/199877
Thanks,
Mark Jurich
From: Bob Higgins
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:35 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
I received the broken shards of the alumina tube from
I received the broken shards of the alumina tube from the MFMP
Parkhomov-like experiment from Ryan Hunt. The intent was to have analyzed
the metal film on the inside of the alumina to see if it is Li-Al alloy and
to try to re-assemble the pieces to form at least one full circumference of
the
/EN/business/mining/nickel/NickelProducts/T255%20-%20Premium.pdf
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/199877
Thanks,
Mark Jurich
*From:* Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:35 AM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* [Vo]:Explosion May
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:26:06 -0500:
Hi,
There isn't much to lay out. At a few hundred degrees LiAlH4 decomposes into LiH
+ Al + H2. At about 1000 deg. the LiH also decomposes into Li atoms and H atoms.
As the LiH molecule breaks apart, there is a short period
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sat, 14 Feb 2015 11:40:42 +1100:
Hi,
I wrote:
[snip]
1) LiHy4- is about 10 times smaller than a normal Hydrogen atom. This brings
the
nuclei much closer together (LiHy4- is negatively charged overall, so it can
approach another nucleus.)
[snip]
I
that we need plenty of new understanding.
Dave
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From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
Another idea for the control
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:19:42 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The bang happens at 1057C. This is when LiH starts to decompose.
... and that's precisely the conditions required for Hydrino formation, i.e.
atomic H and atomic Li in close proximity.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
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Sent: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
Another idea for the control of the LENR reaction, assuming heat is a driver
would be to make a fuel-metal matrix solid instead of the fuel nano powder.
This arrangement
Well lay it all out for us. Do that and I will believe.
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:57 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:19:42 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The bang happens at 1057C. This is when LiH starts to decompose.
... and that's precisely the
Zircconium metal may be a good getter of H at around 950 degrees F. If it were
incorporated into the Alumina reactor vessel in the outer portion it very well
may create a concentration gradient for H to draw it out through the alumina.
Zr + H is an exothermic reaction I believe and therefore
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Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 6:30 am
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The best spoiler may be variable heat sinking that takes more energy away as
reaction become more robust to throttle it back below the threshold – then
perhaps the drive pwm could push
demonstrate their strengths. The MFMP team is a
capable group and I have confidence that they are up to the task!
Dave
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From: hohlraum hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 12:05 am
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out
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From: hohlraum hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 12:05 am
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
Pity we can't identify a moderator which begins consuming or absorbing H
at 1057.
Sent from my
the reactor is essentially submerged but might
have some benefits worth at least consideration.
Fran
From: Bob Higgins [mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:13 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
Having a switching
into that space but
still it mightnot be fast enough.
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:12:38 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
From: rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Having a switching control of the heater bias is not at all going to fix a
reactor
greater than already witnessed by the MFMP crew.
Dave
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From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 1:11 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
*From:* David Roberson
Actually
different perspectives. I highly value
your thoughts and ideas.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 7:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
Having a switching control
Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 1:11 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
*From:* David Roberson
Actually the characteristic curves suggest that the input power acts
like a bias that stands
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Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 6:16 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
On Mon Feb 9 David said [snip] Since the original product was very close to
becoming unstable, with the increase in gain the latest experiment most likely
resulted in a situation where
.
(An Impossible Invention, chapter 19).
Mats
www.animpossibleinvention.comhttp://www.animpossibleinvention.com
Från: Lewan Mats [mailto:mats.le...@nyteknik.se]
Skickat: den 10 februari 2015 09:25
Till: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Ämne: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
David,
It's always
]
Skickat: den 10 februari 2015 02:47
Till: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Ämne: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
I just read the latest facebook entry by the MFMP group and suspect that they
witnessed an explosion due to a thermal runaway event.The latest Parkhomov
experiment appears to indicate
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Feb 9, 2015 10:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
Hah!
-Original Message-
From: Lewan Mats mats.le...@nyteknik.se
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 3:27 am
Subject: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
David,
It’s always interesting to read your analyses of the energetic and thermal
dynamics of LENR
-Original Message-
From: Lewan Mats mats.le...@nyteknik.se
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 3:46 am
Subject: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
I could add this quote from my book, describing what Giuseppe Levi told me
about experiments
of the picture.
Fran
From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 8:47 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
I just read the latest facebook entry by the MFMP group and suspect that they
witnessed an explosion due
the drive for “growing”
the reaction OU once the threshold is breached
Fran
From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:05 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
That seems like a good quote to add Mats. I
From: David Roberson
Actually the characteristic curves suggest that the input power acts like a
bias that stands behind the incremental behavior. If that bias is quickly
removed then there should exist a point of operation that is located ahead of
the dangerous region. Unless some strong
Pulse power is the way to go.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* David Roberson
Actually the characteristic curves suggest that the input power acts like
a bias that stands behind the incremental behavior. If that bias is
quickly removed then
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 6:30 am
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: SV: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
The best spoiler may be variable heat sinking that takes more energy away as
reaction become more robust to throttle it back below the threshold – then
perhaps
, February 10, 2015 1:11 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
From: David Roberson
Actually the characteristic curves suggest that the input power acts like a
bias that stands behind the incremental behavior. If that bias is quickly
hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Feb 9, 2015 10:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
Hah!
witnessed by the MFMP crew.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 1:11 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
From: David Roberson
Actually the characteristic curves suggest
: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
Pity we can't identify a moderator which begins consuming or absorbing H at
1057.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
Pity we can't identify a moderator which begins consuming or absorbing H at
1057.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
The way Lithium hydride give off or absorbs Hydrogen is a function of the
pressure of hydrogen that LiH is under . High enough pressure will get LiH
to perform as you want at 1057.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:05 AM, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com
wrote:
Pity we can't identify a
greater than already witnessed by the MFMP crew.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 1:11 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR
*From:* David Roberson
Actually the characteristic
One way to keep the hydrogen pressure down but still retain the volume of
lithium is to mix LiAlH4 with LiH so the amount of lithium is held constant
and the hydrogen is reduced.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:47 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I just read the latest facebook entry by
I just read the latest facebook entry by the MFMP group and suspect that they
witnessed an explosion due to a thermal runaway event.The latest Parkhomov
experiment appears to indicate the same out of control system problem.
We know that the earlier Parkhomov device was stable but appeared
Hah!
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