Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
8O I'm shocked how fast claims, which make specialist laugh, goes to the media, while we struggle since 24 year for making evident calorimetry, tritium measurement, be accepted... that two weight tow measure story make me sad about the rationality of our civilisation. maybe is it simply

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: With LENR we can economically and cleanly remove CO2 from the atmosphere the same way nature sequesters it in CaCO3 and such, not a problem Yes. Also, as I suggested in my book, we can use desalination and indoor farms to increase woodlands and convert

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
Hell, it might be easier just to make water, like nature does...transmute it after we are done with it...desalination might be old school On Friday, July 26, 2013, Jed Rothwell wrote: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'cheme...@gmail.com'); wrote: With LENR we can

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-26 Thread Danny Ross Lunsford
AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:   With LENR we can economically and cleanly remove CO2 from the atmosphere the same way nature sequesters it in CaCO3 and such, not a problem Yes. Also, as I suggested in my book, we can use

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-25 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Blaze For a successful third party test it is necessary to have a good, smart, well instructed 3rd party.Too much depends on the professional quality/skills of the 3rd party I think the publicly available product. Peter On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:49 AM, blaze spinnaker

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Anyways, I do agree however that this was a demo and not a public 3rd party test signed off by employed academics with careers at stake. For all that Rossi annoys the heck out of me, he did at least orchestrate that. Yes! Well said. It was a

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-25 Thread Craig
On 07/25/2013 09:00 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: (I still have not seen the Defkalion test so I cannot judge how convincing it was, or comment on that. A person should look very carefully at these things before judging.) - Jed The entire video set is online here:

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-25 Thread Axil Axil
More thoughts on faith in LENR. It seems to me that LENR can be considered more like a religion going forward. Let us draw another analogy between religious faith and faith in LENR. Consider Pascal’s Wager. Pascal's Wager is an argument in apologetic philosophy which was devised by the

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-25 Thread ChemE Stewart
Axil, They are now estimating the Fukishima cleanup @ 58 Billion, which their children will pay for and I am sure that estimate will go up and does not factor the cancer risk. Earthquakes, Tsunamis, Hurricanes and Solar Flares will continue and it is a matter of time before another Fukishima or

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
The notion of bet is interesting, but the philosophical questis misleading. I think you can more compare with the subprime bet : If you are a mainstream scientist - if LENR is false and you say it is a fraud strongly enough to silence dissenters, you keep your budget, your hope of Nobel, your

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-25 Thread James Bowery
If you give Jim Bowery all your money, you will experience eternal bliss with 77,777, virgins. If you don't give Jim Bowery all your money, you will experience eternal torment at the hands of establishment physicists. Now, invoke Pascal's wager substituting dis/belief in the above two

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-25 Thread Alan Fletcher
On the gaming aspect : http://matslew.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/comments-on-defkalion-reactor-demo-in-milan/#comment-814 Mats Lewan Mary, If you don’t make mistakes you most often do nothing at all. If there’s any possibility that this is not a scam, it’s worth letting it go on. The damage if

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that LENR can be considered more like a religion going forward. Douglas Morrison would agree with you. We will be facing disease, pestilence, death, and massive property loss as a species in the triple digit

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-25 Thread ChemE Stewart
With LENR we can economically and cleanly remove CO2 from the atmosphere the same way nature sequesters it in CaCO3 and such, not a problem On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It

[Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-24 Thread Peter Gluck
My dear friends, I have just published: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/07/defkalion-has-kept-its-promise.html Good news coming... Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's promise was respected

2013-07-24 Thread blaze spinnaker
Very well said, Peter. I think it's easy to underestimate how intimidating it is to go on a globally streamed demonstration like this in front of your peers and to do that well unless you are deeply confident in what you are showing. Anyways, I do agree however that this was a demo and not a