Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

At 10:38 AM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mark Iverson wrote: 1) In Galantini's report, it is clear that he was looking at several different sensors. 2) I seriously doubt that the RH sensor would physically fit in the opening where the outlet temperature sensor is located. It fits in a dif

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

At 10:04 AM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Essentially, depending on the thermometer being wet to inform the observer of the lack of water is foolish. No, it isn't. Galantini knows what he is doing. The probe would be wet because these probes are tapered. The plug

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

Mark Iverson wrote: 1) In Galantini's report, it is clear that he was looking at several different sensors. 2) I seriously doubt that the RH sensor would physically fit in the opening where the outlet temperature sensor is located. It fits in a different port. You can see it in some of the p

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Essentially, depending on the thermometer being wet to inform the observer of the lack of water is foolish. No, it isn't. Galantini knows what he is doing. The probe would be wet because these probes are tapered. The plug that seals it is wider than the probe itse

RE: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

Abd wrote: "You are, however, assuming that Galantini could tell that the chimney had no liquid water in it at the level of the thermometer, because he withdrew the probe and "observed that it was dry." [deleted sentence] "Has it occurred to you that steam doesn't come out of the thermometer por

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

At 01:39 PM 8/9/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Jouni Valkonen <jounivalko...@gmail.com> wrote: When Galantini observed the test, they had large version of E-Cat that can store large quantities, perhaps several liters of water, before it starts overflowing. When I am

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

At 01:47 PM 8/9/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Jouni Valkonen <jounivalko...@gmail.com> wrote: And if we look Rossi's presentation when he did "calculations" he treated Krivit's audience like he would assume that Krivit was doing journalism to some tabloid news pape

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

At 10:01 AM 8/9/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: The "overflowing water" hypothesis does not apply to the flowing water test, and it is definitely wrong for the tests observed by Galantini. He removed the probe and observed that it was dry. So Rossi can control the water level in the cell and keep it

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

look extraordinarily weak. - Original Message - From: "Jed Rothwell" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real? Jouni Valkonen wrote: I guess, you missed my point.

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

Jouni Valkonen wrote: Anyways, I see that it is absolutely impossible for Rossi to control > anomalous cold fusion reaction so that it would match exactly with the > water inflow rate, because I think that even 5% variation in heat > output would cause drastic change of steam temperature . . .

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

2011/8/9 Jed Rothwell : > I do not think it overflows, but even if it does, that does not preclude > real heat. I suppose it would reduce the amount of heat, as Abd says. It > would also prevent steam from coming out of the end of the hose, as Storms > says. Therefore I doubt it is happening. > It

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

Jouni Valkonen wrote: I guess, you missed my point. When Galantini observed ictu oculi, the E-Cat was not yet overflowing, because it may take several tens of minutes if not hours before water level rises enough to start overflowing . . Ah. I see what you mean. However, he says he checked seve

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

2011/8/9 Jed Rothwell : > Jouni Valkonen wrote: > >> This also means that ictu oculi is very unreliable >> way to make reliable confirmation. > > He withdrew the probe and looked at it. It was dry. It would wet if there > was water flowing through the machine. This is very reliable; anyone can see

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

Jouni Valkonen wrote: > And if we look Rossi's presentation when he did "calculations" he > treated Krivit's audience like he would assume that Krivit was > doing journalism to some tabloid news paper(!). That is nonsense. The calculations were perfectly correct. They were straight from any ch

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

Jouni Valkonen wrote: > When Galantini observed the test, they had large version of E-Cat that > can store large quantities, perhaps several liters of water, before it > starts overflowing. When I am cooking, I can stop a pot from boiling dry whether it is large or small. It is not difficult a

Re: [Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

2011/8/9 Jed Rothwell : > Since Rossi was able to keep the thing from overflowing when Galantini > observed the tests, why do you think he was unable to do this when Krivit > was watching the test? When Galantini observed the test, they had large version of E-Cat that can store large quantities, p

[Vo]:Multiplying entities: why would Rossi fake some tests when others are indisputably real?

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > With some tests of the eCat we can rule this out. It seems unlikely to me >> that it works in some tests but not others. >> > > When we don't have prior experience, we have no basis for prediction. > You are multiplying entities unnecessarily. The "overflowing water