Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-06 Thread Terry Blanton
I saw a science program on research underway near Savannah. The ocean turbines suffer much greater stresses due to the density of the fluid. Terry On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a lot more in the ocean

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: I saw a science program on research underway near Savannah. The ocean turbines suffer much greater stresses due to the density of the fluid. Yeah. I didn't see that but there was a lot of coverage of turbines recently installed in the East River in Manhattan, which is

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-03 Thread Michel Jullian
Plus it makes the visual disturbance objection, very vocal over here, moot. Michel 2008/11/2 Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Offshore is inherently better in many ways, mainly because the wind is steadier and more frequent offshore. In the best land locations annual average performance

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a lot more in the ocean currents! Darn right. The Gulf Stream is a neglected resource. It comes close to the shore in several places, which I assume are shallow enough for the kind of installations they use in oil drilling wells, if not offshore

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-02 Thread R C Macaulay
It is not a black and white issue. it's cultural issue with subsets coupled with a stupid war and freakish props to skew an obsolete economic model. Add to that stew a nation's youth searching for the Camelot they were promised after sliding thru college. Once heard an ole timer in Key West

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
It is hard to tell what might happen based on local conditions. However, a person who has huge crowds at his rallies and collects a huge amount of money must have massive support. In addition. Obama is using his organizing skills to make sure his people vote. I suggest the basis on which

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Wind is not available in many parts of the country, such as Georgia. Ah ha. According to today's Atlanta Journal there are ~10 GW of potential offshore wind in Georgia. See: http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/stories/2008/11/02/equaled_1102.html I wasn't aware of that. My

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-01 Thread Edmund Storms
This is exactly what Obama has proposed to do in contrast to McCain who wants to drill for oil and encourage nuclear power. I wonder why the choice is not a no-brainer for so many people? Ed On Nov 1, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: If the US and Europe are to preserve the

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 1, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: This is exactly what Obama has proposed to do in contrast to McCain who wants to drill for oil and encourage nuclear power. I wonder why the choice is not a no-brainer for so many people? Ed Well, all I can say is ... I have voted,

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is exactly what Obama has proposed to do in contrast to McCain who wants to drill for oil and encourage nuclear power. Just to clarify, Obama also supports nuclear power. The candidates are actually close together on energy policy, at least in their

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 1, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is exactly what Obama has proposed to do in contrast to McCain who wants to drill for oil and encourage nuclear power. Just to clarify, Obama also supports nuclear power. The candidates are

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-01 Thread Edmund Storms
On Nov 1, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is exactly what Obama has proposed to do in contrast to McCain who wants to drill for oil and encourage nuclear power. Just to clarify, Obama also supports nuclear power. To further clarify,

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 1, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: ... I'm getting sick of hearing about an election that is in the bag. Ed I'll second that. Science is so much more civil and enjoyable than politics. At least I thought so until the Perdue fiasco - though I suppose that could be blamed

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-01 Thread Edmund Storms
You are exactly right Horace, we need to solve this problem as quickly as possible. Drilling for oil or even building new reactors will take many years, up to 10 years depending on who makes the estimate. In contrast, putting up wind turbines is fast. The slow part is hooking them to the

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 1, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: You are exactly right Horace, we need to solve this problem as quickly as possible. Drilling for oil or even building new reactors will take many years, up to 10 years depending on who makes the estimate. In contrast, putting up wind