Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-15 Thread Kevin O'Malley
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- Rossi has already done that. He reported that last year his coworkers were able to build one of his devices and get excess heat simply on his instructions, without him being in the room (or even being on the same continent

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi needs to explain how to build the thing or he's not getting a patent. No, he only needs to explain how to replicate it. A patent does not have to explain how something works. It only has to allow a person having ordinary skill in the art

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
The key to the Rossi effect is the 5 micron powder and how to produce the proper sized nanowire on those particles. Unless this process is defined, the Rossi reactor will not work. Note that Rossi never ever mentions the micro-powder and any details of how to produce it... except that a 98 year

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-11 Thread James Bowery
Rossi's behavior toward patent law is most curious. He obviously doesn't really want a patent because to get one that's enforceable/valid he would have to meet the fundamental criteria of disclosure. So I don't know what he thinks he's up to with these patent applications. On Sun, May 11, 2014

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-11 Thread David Roberson
- From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 11:54 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- Rossi's behavior toward patent law is most curious. He obviously doesn't really want a patent because to get one that's enforceable/valid

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Rossi has already done that. He reported that last year his coworkers were able to build one of his devices and get excess heat simply on his instructions, without him being in the room (or even being on the same continent). On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Blaze Spinnaker

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-11 Thread Bob Cook
- Original Message - From: Kevin O'Malley To: vortex-l Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- Rossi has already done that. He reported that last year his coworkers were able to build one of his devices and get excess heat

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
His co worker. He needs to do that to the patent analyzer. 2014-05-11 18:13 GMT-03:00 Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com: [image: Boxbe] https://www.boxbe.com/overview This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (kevmol...@gmail.com) Add cleanup

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
For patents, protection starts on day 1. I really don't know what Rossi can do. 2014-05-11 18:43 GMT-03:00 Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com: [image: Boxbe] https://www.boxbe.com/overview This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (frobertc...@hotmail.com) Add cleanup

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-11 Thread Bob Cook
- Original Message - From: Daniel Rocha To: John Milstone Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- For patents, protection starts on day 1. I really don't know what Rossi can do. 2014-05-11 18:43 GMT-03:00 Bob Cook frobertc

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-11 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- For patents, protection starts on day 1. I really don't know what Rossi can do. 2014-05-11 18:43 GMT-03:00 Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com: [image: Boxbe] https://www.boxbe.com

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
, May 11, 2014 2:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- For patents, protection starts on day 1. I really don't know what Rossi can do. 2014-05-11 18:43 GMT-03:00 Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com: [image: Boxbe] https://www.boxbe.com/overview This message

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
I was thinking about this. Since this patent application is worthless, Rossi could well apply again without any loss of prior art, since he didn't establish any clear to begin with. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Rossi needs to explain how to build the thing or he's not getting a patent. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: When this report is published it will probably be greeted with a yawn. Rossi needs to demo his plant to the patent office and then he'd get his

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-09 Thread Kevin O'Malley
When this report is published it will probably be greeted with a yawn. Rossi needs to demo his plant to the patent office and then he'd get his patent approved. It would be at that point that LENR breaks out. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Yesterday

[Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-02 Thread Bob Cook
Yesterday Rossi (on his reader blog) indicated that the third party tests would not be reported before June. Vortexers have at least another month to speculate on the mechanism of the Ni-H Rossi Effect. However it may be quite bit longer, depending upon patent disclosure strategy. What are

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-02 Thread Ken Deboer
FUTURE? I'd like to throw in a couple of general comments on the current trend of this Forum and LENR in general (Just as a cheerleader, since I am totally incapable of contributing or even understanding the technical details). Despite no real evidence of any imminent breakthrough, still, we

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-02 Thread Ken Deboer
Whoops, accidentally interrupted my above message. To conclude: That unraveling will, of course, take some great deal more effort, as well as probably a great deal of time and money, even though we all hope(d) that it could be carried off by the 'underground'. Lennart Thomas seems to have a

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-02 Thread Axil Axil
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/47 Focus: Why We Can’t Remember the Future In absolute certainty, LENR exists in the future; it is predestined because it will eventually be discovered just like any major operating principle of the universe must ultimately be. But how can we remember how

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-02 Thread James Bowery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W67qnktk_8#t=947 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/47 Focus: Why We Can’t Remember the Future In absolute certainty, LENR exists in the future; it is predestined because it will

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-02 Thread James Bowery
Sorry, I just couldn't resist, Axil. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:45 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W67qnktk_8#t=947 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/47 Focus: Why We Can’t

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-02 Thread Bob Cook
James-- Did you forget what you couldn't resist because the resistance was too great and it didn't happen. Bob - Original Message - From: James Bowery To: vortex-l Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- Sorry, I just

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

2014-05-02 Thread James Bowery
. Bob - Original Message - *From:* James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2014 6:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- Sorry, I just couldn't resist, Axil. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:45 PM, James Bowery