has also contributed to discussions on the science of
LENR, so treat him in a civil manner… is that too much to ask?
-Mark Iverson
From: Kevin O'Malley [mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:09 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit
, 2014 8:09 PM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:22 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
All Vorts:
Have any of you lost money to Blaze, or even took him up on a bet???
***Yes. I did. I took him up on his
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:12 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
Kevin:
Think about these clues:
***Mark, go down the street to the corner store and purchase a clue.
1) At this time, noone has indicated that Blaze has taken any of their $.
***First of all, that's because
: Kevin O'Malley [mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 10:17 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:45 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Kevin,
Lighten up.
***NO.
Ever since Blaze first showed up
Well put, and I feel constrained to point out that once the name of Bill B is
invoked it's a lot like speaking the name JHWH. In short order the avenging
angel will arise and impose His terrible swift justice. Not a pretty sight,
leaves one shuddering in one's boots. One time He even shut the
:* Kevin O'Malley [mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 04, 2014 10:17 PM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:45 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
Kevin,
Lighten up.
***NO.
Ever since Blaze first
Aw Shucks this was supposed to be in response to the ZeroPoint message
posted above, so I resent it.
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com wrote:
Well put, and I feel constrained to point out that once the name of Bill
B is invoked it's a lot like speaking the
simple.
-Mark
*From:* Kevin O'Malley [mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 04, 2014 10:17 PM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:45 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
Kevin,
Lighten up
To Jed,
I agree with you all entrepreneurs are not the same. In a way that
describes an entrepreneur - if all entrepreneurs were alike they would not
be entrepreneurs.
I happen to like change. I try to avoid being caught repeating myself and
I like personal freedom to change as I want. I do drive
Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Have you considered putting together a historical account of the Saga of
Cold Fusion? . . .
It seems to me that should it become a generally accepted fact that CF (or
whatever the popular culture end up calling it) is a
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
If you don't like the implication that Blaze has his head in dark places, go
ahead and defend him
Or her.
the personal attacks… its
really pretty simple.
-Mark
From: Kevin O'Malley [mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 10:17 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:45 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote
from Jed:
...
Well, it hasn't happened yet. If it happens I guess I can write about it.
...
I watched the video and read your Lessons from cold fusion archives and from
history. Thanks.
IMHO, your professed self-doubt is precisely one of the principle reasons I
continue to
?
*From:* Kevin O'Malley [mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:51 AM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit
If Bill wants to beg to differ, let him. It's his sandbox. In the
meantime your free advice is worth what I paid
Be careful, Terry. Mark might key up on you with the ultimate YHWH
reference post to put you on the defensive... even then, would such a
thing contribute to Blaze pulling his head out of a dark place???
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 5,
Several groups which tested the Rossi device found no heat, so they stopped
the tests ahead of schedule.
***When you write your book, you'll hopefully explain which groups these
are.
And that eventuality of writing your book will be coming VERY soon in your
perspective. Ya might as well get
If, as Carver Mead believes, the magnetic vector potential turns out to be
not only physical but essential for coherent thinking about the physical,
Oliver Heaviside's contribution will be thrown into question as it was he,
more than anyone else, that discounted Maxwell's insistence that it was
One reason for the scientist, like for Elforsk boss, is not taking risk to
be wrong but very probably they already know what they are (right or
wrong), and that they did not take the opportunity to flee the debate is an
information.
If the test was a flop, the boss of Elforsk would have said : I
The oddest thing about this new affair it is that ecat's report should be
released soon... So, it's almost like this scam calling was done on
purpose, right before its release.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Yeah, crazy stuff. I'm increasing the % here of Rossi being real to 40%
though on the account of the scientists speaking out. They sound confident.
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
The oddest thing about this new affair it is that ecat's report
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I sincerely doubt that a journal will pick it up, so it will most likely
be self-published (again) and generally ignored (again).
I think there is no chance any journal will publish this. Self-publication
is fine. It will be ignored, but that does not
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, crazy stuff. I'm increasing the % here of Rossi being real to 40%
though on the account of the scientists speaking out. They sound confident.
They are confident, but we cannot be sure they have a positive result this
time. Even assuming
A reasonable point. They may report high, uncontrollable COP. The
isotopic analysis should stlll be be interesting though, if they actually
did it.
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, crazy stuff.
I agree with having an interested public. I also think that having a highly
interested stakeholder could prove useful in the political realm. To that end I
have been trying to get the trade association for the drought ravaged central
California growers interested. If the coastal cities had
Hi all
On the matter of scepticism:
No one is denying people the right to be scientifically sceptical of LENR
but to be a sceptical scientist you must conform to the Galileo Test and
put your eye to the telescope.
For the radio reporter to speak out against a report that has not been
published,
The Galileo Test cannot be one on the Ni/H reactor. Its design and
operating principles are top secret. We are at the religion stage currently
and the builders of the Ni/H reactors want to keep it that way for as long
as possible.
When asked :how does it work the builders will then ask you tell
Hi all
In reply to Axil Axil
The point I was making was clearly about the the lack of scientific basis
of the Radio Reporter critique of a third party report that has not yet
been published, so hence no basis on which to make their critique and about
the use of ad homonym attacks rather than
We're at the magic stage.
Science, anyone skilled in the art can reproduce it.
Magic, only some skilled in the art can reproduce it.
Religion, no one can reproduce it.
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The Galileo Test cannot be one on the Ni/H reactor.
I like that
On Wednesday, June 4, 2014, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
We're at the magic stage.
Science, anyone skilled in the art can reproduce it.
Magic, only some skilled in the art can reproduce it.
Religion, no one can reproduce it.
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Axil
That is a good description of the status!
Dave
-Original Message-
From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 4, 2014 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit
We're at the magic stage.
Science, anyone skilled
Dear James
I think this list is not complete:
*Technology*- anybody paying for it and respecting
some simple instructions can, use it.
Unfortunately skilled in the art has to be defined
in each case.
Technology is much more than applied science.
Peter
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:00 PM, James
Peter, I agree with what you said with two exceptions:
1) Technology does not necessarily imply money. There are huge amounts of
open free technology -- particularly in software.
2) skilled in the art has a legal definition as a consequence of patent
law's definition of disclosure. Although it
Dear James,
your definition is perfect, thanks
1) is irrelevant THIS technology implies money, a lot, in and out.
2) re patents, know-how I am speaking from practice. Rarely patents are
sold without know how.
Peter
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:35 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
At 08:40 AM 6/4/2014, you wrote:
The Galileo Test cannot be one on the Ni/H reactor. Its design and
operating principles are top secret. We are at the religion stage
currently and the builders of the Ni/H reactors want to keep it that
way for as long as possible.
You can put your eye to the
about the problem some people have with the unknown is fascinating.
Am I a genius in understanding what is a black box test ?
in assuming that if some heat above any known chemical process, above the
theoretical chemistry limit, thus there is something ... interesting to
look further ?
It is the
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
about the problem some people have with the unknown is fascinating.
I think that is the core problem. Fear of novelty is common in many
animals. It is a healthy evolved response, but it gets in the way of
science.
Am I a genius in understanding
To Alain and Jed,
I think you guys are on to what I call the difference between an
entrepreneur (a very misused word) and not an entrepreneur. Entrepreneurs
are fearless about new things. However to be a successful entrepreneur you
need to be logical and the hardest - You have to accept the simple
Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote:
I think you guys are on to what I call the difference between an
entrepreneur (a very misused word) and not an entrepreneur. Entrepreneurs
are fearless about new things. However to be a successful entrepreneur you
need to be logical and the
Jed,
I've just read your modus operandi, and again I find myself wanting to say:
Have you considered putting together a historical account of the Saga of Cold
Fusion? You've already written a book 10 years ago on how Cold Fusion has the
potential to transform the world for the better.
But you don't increase the % on the thread where you introduced that
practice. So I'm constrained to decrease my ASSessment of an ASSurance
that Blaze will pull his head out of his ASinine hind quarters down to
7.61%, taking into account the Coriolis effect on this year's election
cycle. At
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 8:05 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit
But you don't increase the % on the thread where you introduced that practice.
So I'm constrained to decrease my ASSessment of an ASSurance that Blaze will
pull his head
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:45 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
Kevin,
Lighten up.
***NO.
Ever since Blaze first showed up, he's been trying to steal money from your
pocket and every other vortician's pocket.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg83682.html
The folks up north are apparently a bit peeved over being slimed by their
local media:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/06/03/swedish-e-cat-testers-issue-statement/
I can imagine that it's a bit unpleasant to find your reputation being trashed
in this manner by your government-sponsored
This is a good statement.
Yes, I do get a sense this wording means the results are probably positive.
If the results were negative, I suppose they would say something like:
although our initial results were positive, we could not confirm them.
Why say that now? Because it would get them off the
I wrote:
Another reason to think the results are positive is that it is taking all
this time. The researchers would have cut short the tests long ago and
published.
I meant that if there were no excess heat, they would have cut short the
tests after a few weeks. I suppose.
Several groups
Comment on Steve High,
You know I am one of the folks up north although in California since many
years.
Like many others you think that a government owned radio network is
different than one owned by advertisement.
Well, they both have their advantages. Unfortunately the freedom of speech
in my
I don't know why they replied. Since (as Jed pointed out) they ran
the test for the full duration it was most likely positive.
The only reason I can think of is that the Swedish coverage might
influence journal editors, but I think a solid paper and a cover
letter would serve the same
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