Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Bob Cook
agnetic field and a nucleus during operation of nuclear magnetic resonant machines used for medical imaging? Bob - Original Message - From: fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier Th

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread fznidarsic
The barrier is still there. Its like a rabbit trying to get over you garden fence. The barrier stops it. You just step over it because the length of your step exceeds that of the barrier. Over you go, no thump. The ONLY way the Coulomb barrier can be crossed without emitting radiation,the t

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Axil Axil
situation an > electric field is generated that can add energy to charged particles. This > is pure speculation seeking evidence. > > Dave > -Original Message- > From: Bob Cook > To: vortex-l > Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 2:55 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Ba

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread fznidarsic
, Mar 25, 2014 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier No! I did not say this. I am speaking about the magnetic component of the strong nuclear force the spin orbit force. It is NOT electromagnetic, It does not attract metal. It flips nucleons. I only used the electromagnetic force

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Bob Cook
ce may have been utilized to manipulate the B fields as suggested above. Maybe someone could answer this question? Bob - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier Bob Now I

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread David Roberson
particles. This is pure speculation seeking evidence. Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Cook To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 2:55 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier Dave- The note from Frank: "The net effect is a growing field and energy release that work tog

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread fznidarsic
Message- From: Bob Cook To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 2:55 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier Dave- The note from Frank: "The net effect is a growing field and energy release that work together." The growing field involves a larger volume and coupling for

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Bob Cook
al Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier Bob, I do not understand your question. I still believe that a large magnetic field is interacting with the individual small NAE in a m

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread fznidarsic
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier Frank-- You noted: >>>The magnetic component of the strong nuclear force is called the spin orbit >>>force. It is never considered by the hot fusion people.<<< Why is it ignored? Bob - Original Message -

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Bob Cook
- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier http://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.1593.pdf Experimental study of the two-body spin-orbit force This field is on the cutting edge of research. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:52

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Bob Cook
tex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier From: David Roberson We hear so much chatter about the Coulomb barrier and how difficult it is to overcome for fusion events to occur. Perhaps we should consider it as an electromag

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread David Roberson
, the total energy is too small to accurately measure. Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Cook To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 1:58 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier Dave-- Is your concept of coherence changing? Frank is providing a cause for expanded scope (size

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Axil Axil
force is called the spin > orbit force. It is never considered by the hot fusion people.<<< > > Why is it ignored? > > Bob > > - Original Message - > *From:* fznidar...@aol.com > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:37 AM > *Sub

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Bob Cook
some significance. Dave -Original Message- From: fznidarsic To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 12:37 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier Thats a common mistake. We cannot reduce the Coulomb barrier. The static force fields are conserved and cannot be reduced in

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Bob Cook
- Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier I understand that a steady magnetic field can not add energy to a charged particle. It can redirect the velocity vector of

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Bob Cook
com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier Thats a common mistake. We cannot reduce the Coulomb barrier. The static force fields are conserved and cannot be reduced in a two body problem. The static force field can, however, be bypassed by a for

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Bob Cook
Dave-- You're preaching to the choir. Bob - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:39 AM Subject: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier We hear so much chatter about the Coulomb barrier and how difficult it is to overcome

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: fznidarsic To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 12:37 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier Thats a common mistake. We cannot reduce the Coulomb barrier. The static force fields are conserved and cannot be reduced in a two body problem. The static

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread fznidarsic
Thats a common mistake. We cannot reduce the Coulomb barrier. The static force fields are conserved and cannot be reduced in a two body problem. The static force field can, however, be bypassed by a force with longer range. The magnetic component of the strong nuclear force is called the spin

RE: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread Jones Beene
From: David Roberson We hear so much chatter about the Coulomb barrier and how difficult it is to overcome for fusion events to occur. Perhaps we should consider it as an electromagnetic barrier instead. There is plenty of reason to suspect that a magnetic component of force is active along

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread H Veeder
electromagnetic moat Harry On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, David Roberson wrote: > We hear so much chatter about the Coulomb barrier and how difficult it is > to overcome for fusion events to occur. Perhaps we should consider it as > an electromagnetic barrier instead. There is plenty of

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier

2014-03-25 Thread fznidarsic
Some in this list believe that spin coupling has a large impact upon the rate of LENR activity and there may well be other magnetic interactions associated with nano particles and their large local magnetic fields. I tend to think that these couplings are a key concept that needs to be unders