Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

2012-03-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
maybe a question of language (Rossi is more anglo-saxon introduced) or prevalence (first on the market). clearly for an engineer Defkalion have a more clear behavior, even when silent. note that my conviction of DGT is that the independent testers are so afraid to talk alone that they ask for tota

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

2012-03-07 Thread Chemical Engineer
I am kind of tired of hearing about Rossi. I would really like to hear more about Defkalion. They waged a pretty good PR compaign with their announcements and forum while it was operating. They published professional looking specs. They showed some actual lab equipment and test benches not just

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

2012-03-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
I think that the total scam is not an option, however it is clear that Rossi is overconfident, overanticipating. It is possible and even probable that he lied more or less, even possible he make fake demo jus to get time to find the working recipe... I'm afraid he is lying much, but just to get t

RE: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

2012-03-07 Thread Jones Beene
This is not a "good job" by Steve. It borders on bogosity. Yes - Rossi may manage to draw a decent salary for a few years for R&D by creating a scam - but that is NOT even close to "getting rich". -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax >I read through all of this - and still do

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

2012-03-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:49 PM 3/7/2012, Jones Beene wrote: I read through all of this - and still do not understand how Rossi will get rich without a working device. Can anyone explain it ? Krivit isn't totally explicit. But you get money for "research and development." Which somehow is all spent. Rossi did

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

2012-03-07 Thread Jeff Driscoll
In anyone's opinion (especially Jed), and in order of "convincingness" for an investor that wants to invest, which should be the most convincing Rossi tests (include the date to reduce confusion)? Also, are there any competent scientists who have *carefully* looked at any Defkalion tests and put t

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

2012-03-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
I meant to say Rossi DOES NOT care about credibility. Here is an astounding statement from Krivit: How did highly educated professionals in the scientific community not recognize the multiple contradictions in the Rossi story? How did they not see the scientific failure of Rossi's claim? Is ther

RE: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

2012-03-07 Thread Craig Brown
about to lose their life savings to dodgy doorstep salesmen. Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim From: Jeff Driscoll <hcarb...@gmail.com> Date: Thu, March 08, 2012 8:16 am To: vortex-l@eskimo.com he needs a gullible investor, or a fraudulent investo

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

2012-03-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jeff Driscoll wrote: he needs a gullible investor, or a fraudulent investor wanting to find a > bigger gullible investor, he's probably learned the game with his previous > fraudulent work > He has not learned it very well, has he? If he is a con-man, he is the most inept con-man in Italy and Fl

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times claim

2012-03-07 Thread Jeff Driscoll
he needs a gullible investor, or a fraudulent investor wanting to find a bigger gullible investor, he's probably learned the game with his previous fraudulent work On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > I read through all of this - and still do not understand how Rossi will get > ri