Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-16 Thread Jack Cole
I have collected more data in a new run that seems to explain things (see chart below). Something took place around 1000 seconds and corrected around where the spike occurred (note that I removed some data from the first part of Run 1 to line up the curves at the start of the runs). The most

RE: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-16 Thread Jones Beene
Excellent work Jack, since this latest graph is starting to look suggestive for a real comparative thermal anomaly . Let's hope that this continues, since you are starting to see the thermal ratcheting effect which seems to be one the most reliable tells for gain in the Ni-H reaction - and you

Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-16 Thread Jack Cole
Jones, I don't know if we have a real ratcheting effect or not. I have it running like a simple thermostat. Turns the electrolysis on at a set temp and off at a set temp. With this method, you would only see ratcheting if there was heat after death. The other possibility to see it would be a

RE: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-16 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jack Cole I don't know if we have a real ratcheting effect or not. I have it running like a simple thermostat. Turns the electrolysis on at a set temp and off at a set temp. With this method, you would only see ratcheting if there was heat after death. Yes, that would be the

Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-15 Thread Jack Cole
Jones, Here is the run overnight with the graphite anode replacing the stainless steel. That temperature jump about half way through seems intriguing. I've never seen it do that before. It occurred over 90 seconds. http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/6-15-13.png Best

Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Jack Cole's message of Sat, 15 Jun 2013 05:52:25 -0500: Hi, At 11350 seconds it suddenly flattens off. The curve after the jump appears to be a continuation of the curve before 11350 seconds. This gives me the impression that something changed at about 11350 seconds which was

RE: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-15 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
[mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 3:13 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry In reply to Jack Cole's message of Sat, 15 Jun 2013 05:52:25 -0500: Hi, At 11350 seconds it suddenly flattens off. The curve after the jump appears to be a continuation

Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-15 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: See this chart: http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/falseahe.jpg It would be nice to see a control run for comparison. Eric

RE: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-15 Thread Jones Beene
Good point Robin. There could have been accumulating H2/O2 bubble formation that suddenly recombined (burned) to give the big jump in temperature. Jack has a neat Android based controller that lets him collect data by cell phone. I think we will be hearing more on his progress as time goes on.

Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-15 Thread Jack Cole
: Saturday, June 15, 2013 3:13 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry In reply to Jack Cole's message of Sat, 15 Jun 2013 05:52:25 -0500: Hi, At 11350 seconds it suddenly flattens off. The curve after the jump appears to be a continuation of the curve before

Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-15 Thread Jack Cole
Yes, I will do that after I finish running another experiment tonight. On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: See this chart:

RE: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-13 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jack Cole This produced apparent (but false) excess heating of up to 50% in several of my experiments. Is this analysis sensible? Not so sure that this analysis is precise - but apparent gain could be due to iron as a consumable and must be eliminated. If iron is leaching, then

Re: [Vo]:One peril of thermometry

2013-06-13 Thread Jack Cole
Thanks Jones. I just ordered one of those anodes. I am also going to cross check with a graphite anode. I was using standard nickels and a thoriated tungsten rod all plated with an extra layer of nickel as a cathode. I also added a small amount of nickel sulfate to the electrolyte after