Re: Hydrino orgone
A bit of a problem mit der joe cell? :-) http://www.sdsefi.com/techtheo.htm "The '70s saw the introduction of the excellent L Jetronic system and licensed spinoffs built in other countries. Emission regulations and the energy crisis in the mid '70s caused most car manufacturers to consider the switch to EFI. Nissan, Toyota and BMW notably equipped almost all of their higher end models with the Bosch system by 1982. Many German and American car companies were slow to embrace EFI for reasons unknown. By 1985, the first digital systems were in widespread use worldwide by most manufacturers to some degree and the days of the carburetor were numbered. Today, over 95% of all cars produced are EFI equipped. EFI is certainly not new, as its roots were firmly established over 30 years ago." Basic Theory "EFI uses solenoid valves called injectors to meter fuel delivery. Most vehicles today use 1 injector per cylinder. When the solenoid is energized, fuel sprays out into the valve port. Fuel is delivered to the injector by a high pressure electric pump at around 40 psi. Fuel delivery is controlled by the injectors which are cycled by the computer. The computer produces a signal to open the injectors for a certain length of time depending on engine conditions relayed by sensors. The longer that the injector is open, the more fuel is injected. As engine load and rpm are increased, the injector open times are increased to match increasing airflow. This computer output signal is called the injector pulse width. The longer the pulse width, the more fuel is injected." - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber To: vortex-l Sent: 5/1/2006 7:45:39 PM Subject: Re: Hydrino orgone Posted earlier: IOW. The "Joe Cell" may turn out to be a Red Herring. I meant it may not need to produce O, OH, and H, H2 or H3O, but, the electrolysis heat from the battery may provide the heat for vaporizing the water, SATURATED STEAM TABLE CALCULATOR: (and more) http://www.connel.com/cgi-bin/steam.pl Why rack your brain? :-) Fred - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber To: vortex-l Sent: 5/1/2006 6:19:57 PM Subject: Re: Hydrino orgone Let's find out if nature's thermodynamics allows an engine to run on damp air created by using the evaporative cooling effect (Venturi aspiration on water) on the incoming air, and using the 4 cycle engine to optimize the INVERSION TEMPERATURE so that during the power stroke the EXPANDING GAS HEATS. IOW. The "Joe Cell" may turn out to be a Red Herring. USE THIS PSYCH CHART: http://www.linric.com/webpsysi.htm The Inversion Temperature: " the 'normal' effect of cooling when a gas expands takes place below that temperature, above that temperature it heats under expansion." Gas Inversion Temp Deg K Space 0-3 Helium 51 Hydrogen 205 -90.67 F Neon 242 Nitrogen 621 658.13 F Argon 723 841.73 F Krypton 727 Oxygen893 1147.73Xenon 1427 Zero Deg C = 273 Deg K Zero Deg F = 255 Deg K Conversion calculators. http://www.onlineconversion.com/temperature.htm Fred
Re: Hydrino orgone
Making a Mountain out of a Molehill? :-) http://www.tiscover.at/at/guide/50116at,en,SCH1/objectId,ACC296274at,curr,EUR,season,at1,selectedEntry,pict/pict.html "In a mountain scenery, yet close to the Wolfgangsee lake! The Kleefeld Alpine inn is at about 2.5 km from the Wolfgangsee lake at 700 m altitude. Amidst mountain peaks, Alpine pastures and forests, located on a south-facing sheltered from the wind, you can enjoy unspoilt nature. Hikes to the lakeside or along steep ways up to the Sparber mountain, it´s your choice! " Anybody feel like Yodeling. :-)
Re: Macho WIMP ?
Speaking of dark energy coming down from the stars... Perhaps WIMPS have been manufactured on earth for some time, under a different name? EVOs as WIMPs by Ken Shoulders © 2006 EVOs appear as clusters of electrons capable of suppressing their expressed charge and mass by a measured factor of more than 1 billion below that of the same number of individual electrons. Even in their presently undeveloped state, they could qualify for what is known in astronomy as WIMPs or Weakly Interacting Massive Particles and thought by some to be one source of Dark Matter. Down to the lowest level of expressed charge measured thus far, the black or non-interactive state of EVOs can be refreshed to the white level of expressed charge and mass by application of short-term pulses of electric field. This behavior raises the hope of awakening the black state of an EVO from an even deeper stage of charge and mass suppression, perhaps obtained naturally as a WIMP by a long residence in the solitude of space. This remarkable behavior requires reevaluation of current notions of what charge and mass really are, especially in such a highly organized state the EVO is apparently adorned in. In any event, this state of low expressed charge provides low interactivity with normal, charged matter-a Hallmark of both EVOs and WIMPs. While considering this gross obfuscation of charge and mass by EVOs, using easily available techniques, one might also consider some cosmic-ray-like events as being the gradual dishevelment of an energetic EVO while entering our atmosphere with the ease and penetrability of a WIMP. Only simple methods of excitation have been applied so far and it is likely that awakening EVOs from a very deep state of composure will require new methods not yet envisaged. If such methods are found by following the present techniques to a much more stable level of EVO existence, then the detection and energetic utilization of the cosmic WIMPs we are bathed in becomes possible and a new and powerful energy source will be found. This extension of technology leads to more interesting and efficient interaction mechanisms by working with artificial, laboratory produced EVOs deep in a region of stability masquerading as WIMPs. Existing EVOs have very low expressed charge and mass; there are many effective electron-like structures contained within their bounds and they are very energetic when aroused. These parameters qualify them as provisional WIMPs and heralds of dark matter until the real one come along. References [1] K.R. Shoulders, EV--A Tale of Discovery, Austin, TX, 1987. A historical sketch of early EV works having: 246 pages, 153 photos and drawings, 13 references. Available from the author at: 365 Warren Dr., Ukiah, CA 95482, (707) 467-9935, e-mail at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2] U.S. Patents on EV technology by K. R. Shoulders. 5,018,180 (1991) - 5,054,046 (1991) 5,054,047 (1991) - 5,123,039 (1992), and 5,148,461 (1992). [3] For general references on EVO technology, downloads are available at: www.svn.net/krscfs/. No idea-wimps here... that's for sure. But - doesn't the reported (nearly-negative) energy profile of reputed orgone fit the MACHO just as well? In astrophysics, WIMPs (weakly interacting massive particles) are hypothetical particles serving as a possible solution to the dark matter problem. If the astrophysicists have this kind of leeway to invent new particles, then the more well-ground on Vo can play that game to. These particles interact through the weak nuclear force and gravity, and possibly through other interactions no stronger than the weak force. Because they do not interact with electromagnetism they cannot be seen directly, and because they do not interact with the strong nuclear force they do not react strongly with atomic nuclei. There seem to be two refinements that can be added to that - if we do get some glimpse of them on earth, based on the anecdotal details available. Actually nothing can fit the anecdotal details precisely, because they are in conflict with each other. The same problems were seen in the early days of LENR. The two refinements are - WIMPs are a relic of compression/decompression where some electrical charge is present. WIMPs may be transitory and on decay leave an implosion effect. As to the large estimated mass, compared to standard particles - the WIMP may not even be a single particle but a collective remnant of many real particles. Consider it as a shadow or as a relic of displacement ... kind of like a short-physical-memory (I can identify with that more-and-more, every advancing year) Because of lack of interaction with normal matter, they would be dark and invisible through normal electromagnetic observations. Because of their large former mass, transience, and rapid decay, they would be relatively slow moving and therefore cold. Other similar candidates for cold
Chukanov updates his website
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Paper about Schwinger and cold fusion
See: http://samjshah.bol.ucla.edu/Schwinger.pdf A letter from Schwinger to the Physical Review Letters is quoted: With one possible exception, the reviewers of my Letter have come close to, but not equaled, to arrogant stupidity of an earlier PR reviewer, who wrote: 'I have not read this paper, but it must be wrong.' What, pray, in my 55 years of not unsuccessful research justified such contempt? I submit that giving anonymity to narrow minded specialists grants them a license to kill. I want no more of this. Please inform whoever might be interested that I resign as a Member and Fellow of the APS [American Physical Society]. You will, of course, return the copyright agreement that I signed; all rights now revert to me. Incidentally, the PACS entry (1987) 11.10 Mn can be deleted. There will be no further occasion to use it. Schwinger.
Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
This is the title of an editorial in the May 2006 copy of Evaluation Engineering magazine, page 6. Some quotes: . Altair Nanotechnologies, a supplier of advanced nanomaterials, has developed a lithium-ion battery that could enable an electric vehicle to perfom equally as well as a conventional car. To prove the technology, Altair is partnering with Boshart Engineering to incorporate the new battery design into a prototype electric vehicle and begin road testing by year-end ... Recharging the new lithium-ion battery only takes six to eight minutes ...the new batteries will sport three times more power and be able to be recharged 20,000 times instead of 750 for existing ones. The Really Good Battery: the one invention that will change everything from global warming to Arab governments.
Precessional Work
I posted this elsewhere; but, Vorts deserve a chance to poo-poo it. Thanks to Beene and Grimer for the inspiration. Imagine a gyroscope with zero bearing friction and windage. It is anchored at the base axle. The top axle is attached to a point on the edge of a wheel. The wheel will rotate slowly due to the precession of the gyroscope. If the wheel turns another axle which turns a generator, you have just made a device which converts gravity to electricity. N'est-ce pas? Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
Zell, Chris wrote: The Really Good Battery: the one invention that will change everything from global warming to Arab governments. This one may be too good! I hope it does not solve so many problems that it discourages research into cold fusion. In the history of technology, there are many examples of machines that worked so well, for so long, they ended up blocking the development of better technology. Three important modern examples are the internal combustion engine, IBM PC architecture, and Microsoft Windows. They are obsolete, but they have so much developmental momentum behind them, they keep improving just enough to remain commercially viable and prevent effective competition. If we were to start over from scratch today, no one would select these technologies, but you never start over from scratch. Human institutions and technology are strongly influenced by contingency and incumbency, just as biological evolution is. (This is not surprising, since our institutions and technology are a direct result of evolution; they are governed by it as much as our endocrine system is. They tend to borrow the same mechanisms and operate along the same lines.) - Jed
Re: Precessional Work
sounds great. now, where do we get a zero friction bearing? On 5/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this elsewhere; but, Vorts deserve a chance to poo-poo it.Thanks to Beene and Grimer for the inspiration. Imagine a gyroscope with zero bearing friction and windage.It isanchored at the base axle.The top axle is attached to a point on theedge of a wheel.The wheel will rotate slowly due to the precession of the gyroscope.If the wheel turns another axle which turns agenerator, you have just made a device which converts gravity toelectricity.N'est-ce pas?Terry___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today!Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact Listhttp://mail.netscape.com-- Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to writeVoltaire
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
Zell, Chris wrote: The Really Good Battery: the one invention that will change everything from global warming to Arab governments. Chris, be just a bit careful about fully believing all that Altair nanotechnologies say. They have a bit of a history of exaggerating the significance of what they are doing but they seem to be becoming a bit more respectable these days (they started out as a Canadian registered mining company - take from that what you will...) Nick Palmer
RE: Processional Work
Will this gyroscope do...? http://einstein.stanford.edu/content/lithos/VIP_Lithos-5.pdf Also, isn't that converting rotational potential to electricity? Gravity is not responsible for procession... yes? -john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:47 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Precessional Work I posted this elsewhere; but, Vorts deserve a chance to poo-poo it. Thanks to Beene and Grimer for the inspiration. Imagine a gyroscope with zero bearing friction and windage. It is anchored at the base axle. The top axle is attached to a point on the edge of a wheel. The wheel will rotate slowly due to the precession of the gyroscope. If the wheel turns another axle which turns a generator, you have just made a device which converts gravity to electricity. N'est-ce pas? Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Precessional Work
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this elsewhere; but, Vorts deserve a chance to poo-poo it. Thanks to Beene and Grimer for the inspiration. Imagine a gyroscope with zero bearing friction and windage. It is anchored at the base axle. The top axle is attached to a point on the edge of a wheel. The wheel will rotate slowly due to the precession of the gyroscope. If the wheel turns another axle which turns a generator, you have just made a device which converts gravity to electricity. N'est-ce pas? Terry It would work for a while. However, even without a source of friction anywhere in the system including the generator, the energy of precession would diminish over time since this energy is consumed as work to turn the parts of the generator. Harry
Re: Precessional Work
-Original Message- From: leaking pen sounds great. now, where do we get a zero friction bearing? At the Ideal Fizzix store. The actual gedanken precessed from a discussion on electron spin precession. :-) Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Precessional Work
At 01:46 pm 02/05/2006 -0400, Terry wrote: I posted this elsewhere; but, Vorts deserve a chance to poo-poo it. Thanks to Beene and Grimer for the inspiration. Imagine a gyroscope with zero bearing friction and windage. It is anchored at the base axle. The top axle is attached to a point on the edge of a wheel. The wheel will rotate slowly due to the precession of the gyroscope. If the wheel turns another axle which turns a generator, you have just made a device which converts gravity to electricity. N'est-ce pas? Terry The following article by Dr.Harold Aspden, http://www.energyscience.org.uk/notes/rn9712.htm is relevance to this since if some of the downward force of the gravitational wind is being bled off at right angles then there will be a reduction in the weight of the gyro. Frank Grimer
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
-Original Message- From: Zell, Chris ... Recharging the new lithium-ion battery only takes six to eight minutes Hmmm, to deliver 500 kWhr in 8 minutes at 240 V . . . 500 kWhr x 60 = 30 MWmin 30 MWmin / 8 min = 3.75 MW instantaneous 15,625 Amps? Buy copper futures! Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
No ! Terry, Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, The great and terrible wizard of oz can solve any problem. You just shot down a sure fire IPO. Or as the wicked witch of the west said... you destroyed my beautiful wickedness.. I hate you and your dog toto too!!. Richard -Original Message- From: Zell, Chris ... Recharging the new lithium-ion battery only takes six to eight minutes Hmmm, to deliver 500 kWhr in 8 minutes at 240 V . . . 500 kWhr x 60 = 30 MWmin 30 MWmin / 8 min = 3.75 MW instantaneous 15,625 Amps? Buy copper futures! Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
At 03:48 pm 02/05/2006 -0400, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Zell, Chris ... Recharging the new lithium-ion battery only takes six to eight minutes Hmmm, to deliver 500 kWhr in 8 minutes at 240 V . . . 500 kWhr x 60 = 30 MWmin 30 MWmin / 8 min = 3.75 MW instantaneous 15,625 Amps? Buy copper futures! Terry Presumably one would have two battery packs. One on slow charge and one in use. In garages you would drop one pack and pick up another. A bit like using bottled gas. Frank
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
Terry wrote: Hmmm, to deliver 500 kWhr in 8 minutes at 240 V . . . 500 kWhr x 60 = 30 MWmin 30 MWmin / 8 min = 3.75 MW instantaneous 15,625 Amps? Buy copper futures! Yup. We have discussed that here before. Various solutions have been floated, such as swapping the battery pack (as Fred just mentioned) or using a large pack of batteries at the charging station. Actually, if you are going to swap a battery pack you might as well use one of today's slow charge batteries. Still, it would be a big advantage to be able to recharge at the highest amperage your house can support. As quickly as possible, in other words. Even a rapid partial recharge would be convenient. If you had to drive 5 miles round trip to the grocery store but your battery was almost dead, it would be great to quickly recharge 1/6th before setting off. I know this would be convenient based on my experience riding the electric bicycle. I think this battery would have immediate value in other ways: In hybrid vehicles, reducing the need for a capacitor. (I assume they use one?) For things like cell phones and electrically powered lawn clippers and mowers. It would be great for my electric bicycle! There are thousands of electric bicycles and scooters in Beijing, so this could be a big help. Chris has listed many other ways a good battery would help. - Jed
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
-Original Message- From: RC Macaulay No ! Terry, Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, The great and terrible wizard of oz can solve any problem. You just shot down a sure fire IPO. Or as the wicked witch of the west said... you destroyed my beautiful wickedness.. I hate you and your dog toto too!!. Okay, here's the ruby slippers. I have 100 A 240 v service into my home. It can deliver 24 kW instantaneous. Using all my capacity, I can charge a 500 kWHr bettery in a little less than 21 hours. Screw the air conditioning. Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Another Depolymerization Claim
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb379366.htm The choice: risk air pollution with depoly schemes or risk water pollution by continuing to bury refuse. Still, it's a step forward.
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
I wrote: Even a rapid partial recharge would be convenient. If you had to drive 5 miles round trip to the grocery store but your battery was almost dead, it would be great to quickly recharge 1/6th before setting off. Imagine this scenario. You hop in the car to go grocery shopping. You press the start button and a flashing red light on the dashboard tells you the battery is almost out. With a standard battery you say: Woops. We need a partial recharge. Let us reschedule an hour from now. How annoying! With a rapid recharge battery: Woops. We better plug in for 5 minutes. Let's make a shopping list. As I said, I have experienced this kind of thing with the electric bicycle, which recharges much slower than it discharges. I can easily travel 4 miles in 15 minutes (16 mph), but before I leave I may need to wait an hour for an exhausted battery to charge up enough. 16 mph, by the way, is plenty fast for urban transportation. A lot of urban drivers wish they could keep up with that. - Jed
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Tue, 02 May 2006 15:48:58 -0400: Hi, [snip] My car has a 40 L gas tank (only 1500 cc engine). At 14 kWh/kg for gasoline that equates to 420 kWh. However an ICE probably uses on average no better than 20% of this, hence for the purposes of comparison, we get 84 kWh. Since electrical systems can be much more efficient, let's say 75%, we would only need 112 kWh stored in the bettery. At 24 kW mentioned in another post, total recharge is accomplished in 4.7 hours. IOW during the early hours of the morning while you sleep...and you start each day with a full gas tank, which certainly isn't the case currently (no pun intended). Perhaps more to the point, since cruising requires less than 24 kW of power, one needs to recharge less hours each day than one drives. A simple rule of thumb, taking inefficiencies into account would be recharging time = driving time. Hmmm, to deliver 500 kWhr in 8 minutes at 240 V . . . 500 kWhr x 60 = 30 MWmin 30 MWmin / 8 min = 3.75 MW instantaneous 15,625 Amps? [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
Re: Precessional Work
In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Tue, 02 May 2006 13:46:44 -0400: Hi, I predict that the wheel at the top will not turn, and the gyro will not preces at all. This is because when a real gyro precesses in a gravitational field, it also falls to a slight extent in the field. Being, in this case, attached to a wheel at the top prevents this slight downward movement, and hence also the precession. I posted this elsewhere; but, Vorts deserve a chance to poo-poo it. Thanks to Beene and Grimer for the inspiration. Imagine a gyroscope with zero bearing friction and windage. It is anchored at the base axle. The top axle is attached to a point on the edge of a wheel. The wheel will rotate slowly due to the precession of the gyroscope. If the wheel turns another axle which turns a generator, you have just made a device which converts gravity to electricity. N'est-ce pas? Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
Re: Precessional Work
At 08:40 am 03/05/2006 +1000, you wrote: In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Tue, 02 May 2006 13:46:44 -0400: Hi, I predict that the wheel at the top will not turn, and the gyro will not preces at all. This is because when a real gyro precesses in a gravitational field, it also falls to a slight extent in the field. Being, in this case, attached to a wheel at the top prevents this slight downward movement, and hence also the precession. Spoilsport. ;-)
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
-Original Message- From: Robin van Spaandonk My car has a 40 L gas tank (only 1500 cc engine). At 14 kWh/kg for gasoline that equates to 420 kWh. Yeah, mate; but, that isn't an American SUV. g Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
Robin, your calculation is right: we don't need 500 kWh stored in the battery, but only 100 kWh. Even 50kWh would be enough for most purposes (the EEstor battery stores 52kWh). You're also right that a few hours recharge is fine at home, but this is not true on the road, where you will be happy not to spend several hours at the filling station, that's where fast recharge ability shines. The alternative is battery swapping as was mentioned, but this may not be very practical: batteries are heavy and bulky, not necessarily easy to access, and cost a lot so one may be reluctant to swap a brand new battery pack with one in an unknown state. Michel - Original Message - From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:15 AM Subject: Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Tue, 02 May 2006 15:48:58 -0400: Hi, [snip] My car has a 40 L gas tank (only 1500 cc engine). At 14 kWh/kg for gasoline that equates to 420 kWh. However an ICE probably uses on average no better than 20% of this, hence for the purposes of comparison, we get 84 kWh. Since electrical systems can be much more efficient, let's say 75%, we would only need 112 kWh stored in the bettery. At 24 kW mentioned in another post, total recharge is accomplished in 4.7 hours. IOW during the early hours of the morning while you sleep...and you start each day with a full gas tank, which certainly isn't the case currently (no pun intended). Perhaps more to the point, since cruising requires less than 24 kW of power, one needs to recharge less hours each day than one drives. A simple rule of thumb, taking inefficiencies into account would be recharging time = driving time. Hmmm, to deliver 500 kWhr in 8 minutes at 240 V . . . 500 kWhr x 60 = 30 MWmin 30 MWmin / 8 min = 3.75 MW instantaneous 15,625 Amps? [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
Robin van Spaandonk writes: comparison, we get 84 kWh. Since electrical systems can be much more efficient, let's say 75%, we would only need 112 kWh stored in the bettery. It is 60% from power mains to vehicle propulsion with current technology circa 1990. See: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/NRELenergyover.pdf I'll bet it is 70% today; see exhibit A3. Regenerative braking is a big plus. A simple rule of thumb, taking inefficiencies into account would be recharging time = driving time. The electric bicycle with lead-acid batteries does not meet this test. However, there are now better batteries and specially made chargers that can speed things up. A bicycle is the most efficient means of transportation on earth (better than any other machine or animal), so you can see this charger is not adequate. - Jed
Re: Hydrino orgone
If the "tail wags the dog" concept of the motion of the electron cloud causing the atoms-molecules to erratically move about (which apparently is the foundation of Avogadro's Law) holds,and add that to the concept of low pressure of a soft vacuum allowing atoms-molecules to literally expand as in the Joe Cell. one might conclude that a water "Vacuum Expander" tank would replace the Joe Cell. A pool of water inaused refrigerant or propane tank with a hose to the intake manifold with some gas from a small propane torch (or ether spray) let into the air intake for a "Pilot Fuel". In the cylinder the atoms-molecules shrink normal size, giving off energy. Fred
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Tue, 02 May 2006 19:15:40 -0400: Hi, [snip] Yeah, mate; but, that isn't an American SUV. g SUV's are a passing fad. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
Re: Fully Charged in About 8 Minutes
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Wed, 3 May 2006 01:44:02 +0200: Hi, [snip] You're also right that a few hours recharge is fine at home, but this is not true on the road, where you will be happy not to spend several hours at the filling station, that's where fast recharge ability shines. [snip] Keep the ICE vehicles for long trips, and use the electric vehicle for the daily commute. Most km's are traveled during the daily commute anyway, so overall the savings would still be huge. (Most US households are two car families (at least) anyway). Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
Re: Chukanov updates his website
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Tue, 02 May 2006 10:07:36 -0500: Hi, Has anyone on the list read any of these books? Kiril Chukanov wrote: Dear Thomas, Please visit my web-site: www.chukanovenergy.com http://www.chukanovenergy.com/ Whats new. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
