Re: [Vo]:IBM Stop Motion Film of Cu Atoms

2013-05-02 Thread Peter Gluck
It was well known that the surface atoms of metals e.g. in catalysts are very mobile, and this has scientific and technological importance- see e.g. my Surfdyn psper (Fusion Technology 24 AUG 1993, 122-6) re CF. Peter On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Teslaalset
Celani often mentioned 'sintering' a problem in his processed Constantan wires during the conversations I had. This might be related. So, what would be a good process to make suitable nano nickel (as you called 'type 2')?

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Joseph S. Barrera III
If Rossi actually knows something, he needs to document his process as carefully as possible and directly help others to reproduce his work. If his work can actually be reproduced, that would be groundbreaking, magnificent. If he doesn't help others to reproduce his work, and no one can

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: [New post] The Bedlam Within Protons and Neutrons

2013-05-02 Thread Joseph S. Barrera III
On 5/1/2013 6:27 AM, Axil Axil wrote: Science recognizes that screening can accelerated alpha decay. How does such screening affect the pions in their ability to keep these nucleons inside the atom? In detail, what does screening do to the pions? What changes? I'm not sure what *you* mean

Re: [Vo]:cavitation theory of matter

2013-05-02 Thread Terry Blanton
Had not seen that one. I still prefer the topical theory: http://www.theoryofmatterandenergy.com/The%20Vortex%20Theory%20of%20Matter%20and%20Energy.pdf as and edgy explanation of ME.

Re: [Vo]:Simple phenomenon

2013-05-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Not easy to explain, but seems to violate conservation of momentum Why? You have the acceleration of gravity + the acceleration of the magnetic field acting on the first ball. Note that, on the return of the exiting

[Vo]:about the Scientific Method

2013-05-02 Thread Peter Gluck
it seems we have to re-define some basic concepts The author (who, if I remember well, has supported the idea of Cold Fusion, writes here about our dear Scientific Method: There is no Scientific Method: http://bigthink.com/in-their-own-words/there-is-no-scientific-method Peter -- Dr. Peter

RE: [Vo]:Simple phenomenon

2013-05-02 Thread Jones Beene
From: Terry Blanton Not easy to explain, but seems to violate conservation of momentum Why? You have the acceleration of gravity + the acceleration of the magnetic field acting on the first ball. Note that, on the return of the exiting ball, the first ball does not have the energy to

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Joseph S. Barrera III j...@barrera.org wrote: If Rossi actually knows something, he needs to document his process as carefully as possible and directly help others to reproduce his work. That would be a patent. What you are describing is a patent. It protects the owner's intellectual property.

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

2013-05-02 Thread Edmund Storms
On May 1, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Eric Walker wrote: Hi Ed, In fact, I suggested an explanation that met all of these requirements, but this was either rejected or ignored. Consequently, I have very little hope for any theory being accepted any time soon. I have read your recent JCMNS

Re: [Vo]:IBM Stop Motion Film of Cu Atoms

2013-05-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Come to think of it, this means that in principle IBM could store data at one bit per atom starting now. Perhaps the biggest difficulty would be finding the data again. I guess this is the lower limit to data storage. I doubt that subatomic storage will ever be possible. Probably, archival

Re: [Vo]:IBM Stop Motion Film of Cu Atoms

2013-05-02 Thread David Roberson
I believe another difficulty for this form of storage is that the temperature must be kept extremely low to keep the placed atoms from jumping all over the place. I also find it incredible that the metal surface appears to be so smooth at this level of detail. Any idea what you would see if

RE: [Vo]:Simple phenomenon

2013-05-02 Thread Jones Beene
Another overlooked version of the order-disorder route to anomalous energy-gain is so-called flash steam. Here is a Joe-the-plumber definition of the mixed-phase phenomenon which we know as flash steam. It can happen in some home plumbing systems. http://www.velansteamtraps.com/flash_steam.aspx

RE: [Vo]:IBM Stop Motion Film of Cu Atoms

2013-05-02 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Actually it could be much better than one bit per atom. It depends on how accurately the distance between atoms can be measured and how closely they can be packed. On a 2D surface there might be an analogy to linear RLL codes. Current digital storage systems use Run length limited

Re: [Vo]:IBM Stop Motion Film of Cu Atoms

2013-05-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net wrote: Current digital storage systems use Run length limited (RLL) codes where it's the distance between bits that contain the information. ** ** Theoretically you only need two samples to get lots of bits - if you can measure the distance to

Re: [Vo]:about the Scientific Method

2013-05-02 Thread Alain Sepeda
after reading Thomas Kuhn, Nassim Nicholas taleb, WadeBroad, Roland Benabou, and after some experience in the backcourt of democracy and Science, you know that it is a myth... anyway, with hurts and delays it finally works... with some bloody revolution regularly. 2013/5/2 Peter Gluck

Re: [Vo]:about the Scientific Method

2013-05-02 Thread Peter Gluck
Yes, eventually it works, but what works actually is the Science of tomorrow not the Science with which we start On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: after reading Thomas Kuhn, Nassim Nicholas taleb, WadeBroad, Roland Benabou, and after some experience in

Re: [Vo]:about the Scientific Method

2013-05-02 Thread Edmund Storms
I think what people are saying: The concept of science works but the application frequently sucks! The Scientific method is a guide, like the Ten Commandments, but is likewise frequently ignored. Nevertheless, the idea works and provides an incentive for people who need a guide. Ed

Re: [Vo]:about the Scientific Method

2013-05-02 Thread Peter Gluck
I think that in case experiments cannot be done, reality (facts) cannot be known, theory cannot be verified or modified, the virtuous cycle is interrupted and the scientific method fails. Let's focus on LENR Peter On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Axil Axil
I think that QuantumSphere can make a good nickel nanoparticle. http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/3.08/nano.html I would try this particle to start off with Get product info https://portal.luxresearchinc.com/research/profile_excerpt/QuantumSphere Then I would ask them to make a five

Re: [Vo]:about the Scientific Method

2013-05-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I think what people are saying: The concept of science works but the application frequently sucks! Well, also that the method is not perfect. It works sometimes but not other times. It is like any other technique, or any other institution. Some

[Vo]:Robotic insects make first controlled flight

2013-05-02 Thread Eric Walker
Something fun to fret about: the robot itself is a tiny little thing, barely larger than a US cent. http://images.sciencedaily.com/2013/05/130502142649.jpg From the article: the next steps will involve integrating the parallel work of many different research teams who are working on the

Re: [Vo]:Robotic insects make first controlled flight

2013-05-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Quote from article: I want to create something the world has never seen before, adds Ma. Actually, the world has seen this before. They are called insects. We have a long way to go before we catch up with them. However, congratulations are in order. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Robotic insects make first controlled flight

2013-05-02 Thread David Roberson
A new definition of a Stinger Missile. :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 3:03 pm Subject: [Vo]:Robotic insects make first controlled flight Something fun to fret about: the robot itself is a

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread pagnucco
Axil, Don't forget this is dangerous stuff for the amateur. Google nickel nanoparticles danger - You will find references like - Nickel Nanoparticles Favor Development of Cancer http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nickel-Nanoparticles-Favor-Development-of-Cancer-218239.shtml Nickel Nanoparticles may

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread David Roberson
In an emergency situation can a strong magnet pull most of these from the room air? If so, it might be wise to keep one handy when running experiments with nickel powder. Dave -Original Message- From: pagnucco pagnu...@htdconnect.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Axil Axil
I am not discussing using nano-particles. I am recommending MICRO-particles with a nanowire coating. Yes, these can be dangerous if you breath them in. But it is not easy to breath these big particles in. A dust mask will protect from this danger. 5 microns is the grits size of 1000 grit sanding

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread pagnucco
Dave, The literature indicates that the smaller the particle, the more dangerous it may be due to larger surface area/volume ratio. My guess is that these are the hardest to remove from circulating air. - probably it's better to keep them in a confined chamber when preparing a colloid. I am not

RE: [Vo]:Robotic insects make first controlled flight

2013-05-02 Thread Jones Beene
It might be easier to breed or to hybridize a new species of large hornet or wasp, which are amenable to electronic control from a chip they are carrying - which implants into their own nervous system. Some of them are over 5 cm in length already. They are probably amenable to being steered by

Re: [Vo]:Simple phenomenon

2013-05-02 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Not easy to explain, but seems to violate conservation of momentum Why? You have the acceleration of gravity + the acceleration of the magnetic

Re: [Vo]:about the Scientific Method

2013-05-02 Thread Alain Sepeda
I agree more with the vision of Kuhn and Taleb, that it is not accident but structural. all blackswan, paradigm change, inconvenient anomalies, are treated the same, for reason that are clear and unavoidable. today what happened with LENR is described perfectly by Kuhn. nothing else could have

RE: [Vo]:Robotic insects make first controlled flight

2013-05-02 Thread Chris Zell
Why build robots if you can just grow them? There are some who might believe that extraterrestrials have already realized such an advantage in the case of Grey Aliens !

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Teslaalset
I just wonder whether crystalization / re-crystalization of the nickel do overrule the initial particle structures. Since Rossi indicates that shuting down an e-cat takes a few hours, probably due to overcooling, leaves the heated nickel in an amorfhous form. It may even be that the nickel needs

Re: [Vo]:Robotic insects make first controlled flight

2013-05-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote: ** Why build robots if you can just grow them? There are some who might believe that extraterrestrials have already realized such an advantage in the case of *Grey Aliens !* Or human beings for that matter.

Re: [Vo]:Robotic insects make first controlled flight

2013-05-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: It might be easier to breed or to hybridize a new species of large hornet or wasp, which are amenable to electronic control from a chip they are carrying – which implants into their own nervous system. They're onto you! See: Computer controlled

Re: [Vo]:Robotic insects make first controlled flight

2013-05-02 Thread David Roberson
Come to think about it, if I were interested in a far away world inhabited by a species that shoots first I would send a soul less, robotic semi creature to take the risks. The question that arises is why not send a robot that is totally mechanical and that does not require special life

Re: [Vo]:Robotic insects make first controlled flight

2013-05-02 Thread John Berry
Indeed Jones, control of mammals has been long ago perfected :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7dRelyKzes On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: It might be easier to breed or to hybridize a new species of large hornet or wasp, which are amenable to

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Axil Axil
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote: I just wonder whether crystalization / re-crystalization of the nickel do overrule the initial particle structures. No. DGT says that there is a great increase in boron and beryllium near the NAE. So material

Re: [Vo]:Simple phenomenon

2013-05-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Jones, I don't think magnetic shock theory is required to explain the evident gain in momentum. The ball is likely travelling faster when it impacts the cradle with the magnet then when hits the cradle without the magnet. Although the ball is released from the same height in both cases, in the

[Vo]:[Vo) nano nickel powders

2013-05-02 Thread DJ Cravens
Nano nickel Health/safety First, I would like to reiterate what others have pointed out about the health risks. I personally suffered symptoms of pulmonary hypertension as a result to exposure. Initially the doctors diagnosed it as PH and said I had 3 to 5 year life expectancy. But local

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

2013-05-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I now propose it is a chain formed from 2p bonds that allow a series of hydrons to form a chain of atoms. This kind of bond is normally not stable. I propose it becomes stable in the crack for reasons I will not describe

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:47 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: My guess is that these are the hardest to remove from circulating air. - probably it's better to keep them in a confined chamber when preparing a colloid. I am not sure whether they penetrate skin. I suspect that another problem

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

2013-05-02 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: It's clear that you're looking for a way to conserve momentum, so that you don't get 4He fragments and gamma rays -- i.e., hot fusion. I didn't mean to imply that tritium and 3He and gammas are the result of reactions in which momentum is not conserved -- only that you're looking for

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

2013-05-02 Thread Edmund Storms
On May 2, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I now propose it is a chain formed from 2p bonds that allow a series of hydrons to form a chain of atoms. This kind of bond is normally not stable. I propose it

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

2013-05-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Eric, before you make a conclusion you really need to understand what I'm proposing, rather than using your own imagination. First of all, the Hydroton is a neutral molecule consisting of an equal number of elections

[Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

2013-05-02 Thread Harry Veeder
This evening -- while thinking outside the confines of the standard model -- I imagined proton is a neutron with a positron. Then I googled positron inside neutron to see if the concept had be considered previously. I found this letter to the editor of Nature from 1933 where it is proposed by N.

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

2013-05-02 Thread Joseph S. Barrera III
On 5/2/2013 10:16 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: This evening -- while thinking outside the confines of the standard model -- I imagined proton is a neutron with a positron. Well, first of all, you need a neutrino in there as well, otherwise the spins won't add up. But we do know better than we

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

2013-05-02 Thread Axil Axil
How do theories explain lead, boron, iron and beryllium in LENR ash? Explain this: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2010/35/SR35906insights.shtml Isotopic Anomalies Reveal LENR Insights How do theories explain the need for heat and/or electric discharge to activate LENR? Why do only even Z