Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past -

2005-05-17 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to RC Macaulay's message of Mon, 16 May 2005 21:45:43 -0500: Hi Richard, Why precisely 3450 RPM? [snip] Ron, The cavitation products made by Hydro dynamics Inc. apparently differ from the device used by Knuke. Dr. M.W Youds website has a vortex device that may be closer to what Knuke

Linear Magnet Accelerator

2005-05-17 Thread Grimer
This sounds like a variation of the SMOT ball theme. Does anyone know anything about it? Are there any patents for this Keith? === Howard Johnson Witness Wants to See Linear Magnet Accelerator Developed ---

Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past -

2005-05-17 Thread RC Macaulay
Hi Robin, The M.W.Youds website mentions patents for his device operating at 7225 RPM to achieve the result he reported. He mentioned gamma radiation present so we are careful. Our standard gas inductors run at 3450 RPM. We are working on a design for speeds to 10,500 RPM with VFD drive. Design

Re: Linear Magnet Accelerator

2005-05-17 Thread Grimer
At 01:50 am 1/05/2005 -0700, Frank Grimer wrote: This sounds like a variation of the SMOT ball theme. Does anyone know anything about it? Are there any patents for this Keith? === Howard Johnson Witness Wants to See Linear Magnet Accelerator

Re: Re: Pure Thought, Brains, and Artificial Intelligence

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Atlanta subway cars are made by the same company, but they appear to be fully automatic -- as far as I can tell. The driver does not touch the controls once the train starts to move, or when it pulls into the station and stops. That is basicly

Re: Linear Magnet Accelerator

2005-05-17 Thread Grimer
At 01:23 pm 17/05/2005 +0100, Frank Grimer wrote: Thanks to the miracle of the Google search engine I've been able to answer my own request with everything on the accelerator that anyone would want to know [and some 8^) ] http://www.rexresearch.com/johnson/1johnson.htm It is clear that in the

SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
The article I referred to yesterday is K. Boahen, Neuromorphic Microchips, Scientific American, May 2005, p. 56. The relevant quote is on the first page: The brain does not execute coded instruction; instead it activates links, or synapses, between neurons. Each such activation is equivalent

Re: Re: Pure Thought, Brains, and Artificial Intelligence

2005-05-17 Thread Grimer
At 08:58 am 17/05/2005 -0400, you wrote: From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Atlanta subway cars are made by the same company, but they appear to be fully automatic -- as far as I can tell. The driver does not touch the controls once the train starts to move, or when it pulls into

Re: [OT] Animé Series With Uploading And AI Starting Now (5/16) On TV

2005-05-17 Thread Jones Beene
Mark Bilk writes, The 26-episode (so far) animé Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is replaying, one ep per night, on the (cable/satellite) Cartoon Network. It has people uploading their minds (ghosts) into artificial bodies (shells) and into the Net, also some autonomous AIs. Very good

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Jones Beene
Jed, So computers are already within a factor of 1 million. Perhaps they will have to come within a 3 to 5 orders of magnitude before they begin to look intelligent to us. Wait a second. I hate to harp on a silly toy, and a hyped-up news story, largely overlooked in its ultimate impact, but

Moore's law for hard disks

2005-05-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: The price/performance ratio between that first one and this new one is... lets see 8000 times more storage - for about twenty times less $$ = 160,000:1 . . . I don't think there has been anything which can match this phenomenal change in value in the history of

Oops: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Jones Beene
Big oops on tera still haven't good my expresso machine installed !! tera=10^12 so we are not as close as claimed in premature post, but could still be a factor of 100-1000 away with the Xbox, depending on the flop to neural connection ratio. I still think the xbox can be taught to do

Re: Moore's law for hard disks

2005-05-17 Thread leaking pen
wouldnt work. the modern disks heat up mostly due to the head/platter interaction. if you COULD make heads that small (unlikely) the friction would melt the platter down. a multihead idea thats not quite that ambitious might be useful though. On 5/17/05, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: Oops: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey Jones, A flop is a floating point operation, I don't know how you/they get from one flop to the action of a neuron. It's probably closer to 100 flops/neuron, maybe much more. I'm guessing the first hack for xbox+ will be simulating nuclear bombs, expect a rush order from Iran shortly (

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Ron Wormus
A nice overview (~200pages) of the brain and the emerging science of consciousness is: Stairway to the mind By Alwyn Scott; 1995 Copernicus in which he discusses the non-linear emergance of the mind from brain function. paraphrasing... ...How is the observed activity of the brain related

Magnetic Storage (Was: [OT] Animé Series)

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, my first HD was a whopping 20 megs and cost over $1000. Hah! In 1976 I paid $30,000 for a 1 Mbyte hard drive for a 911 dispatch center. :-Þ BTW, I am involved in a digital video security system procurement for MARTA which will involve multiple

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Ron Wormus, A nice overview (~200pages) of the brain and the emerging science of consciousness is: Stairway to the mind By Alwyn Scott; 1995 Copernicus Here is a much more optimistic assessment (from the perspective of the AI advocate), where the writer

Re: Moore's law for hard disks

2005-05-17 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
leaking pen wrote: wouldnt work. the modern disks heat up mostly due to the head/platter interaction. if you COULD make heads that small (unlikely) the friction would melt the platter down. a multihead idea thats not quite that ambitious might be useful though. Conventional (floating head)

Re: Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] The SciAm article says that Synaptic activity is staggering: 10 quadrillion (10^16) neural connections a second. These types of comparisons with electronics are meaningless. Each neuron has over 100 dendrites and each dendrite might touch a different

Re: Moore's law for hard disks

2005-05-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen will not spare us petty details: wouldnt work. the modern disks heat up mostly due to the head/platter interaction. Ah, then we must go even more retro, and lift the array of read write heads so far above the platter, you can see a crack of light between them. By the way, this array

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no way to compare a brain to a computer: http://www.cochrane.org.uk/opinion/articles/intelligenceandlife.php There is an ironic error in the cited article: Micro-machines and nano-technology will most likely create the next major advance

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Jones Beene
Terry, These types of comparisons with electronics are meaningless. ...Hmm... meaning like beauty... may exist in the mind of the beholder, and several intelligent perspectives on this subject can coexist while differing markedly on the meaning each assigns to these efforts at cross-comparison.

RE: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Keith Nagel
Good point, Ron. Each of those neurons are acting in parallel, all functioning simultaneously. Trying to simulate this with a single threaded machine is just not practical. Another sort of architecture is required, like maybe using carbon rather than silicon *grin* Sort of like nanotechnology.

Re: Moore's law for hard disks

2005-05-17 Thread leaking pen
ammend that. yes, the heads are pretty small. the hookup wires though... that might be a problem. and yeah, that sounds like a feature microsoft would add. of course, remember, since the platter changes size dramatically as it heats up, the array of read heads would have to be able to expand

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eloquent; however, IMO, we will not recognize the world 100, even 50 years from now. Damn. I was so engrossed trying to figure out how much to pay Jonesee that I left off my DNA quote (you noticed he was born the year Crick, Watson, et.al.

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread orionworks
From: Terry Blanton ... I've been pondering whether to renew my SciAm subscription. Hmmm, maybe not. There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more

What's the deal with redox batteries?

2005-05-17 Thread Zell, Chris
Given the amount of published enthusiasm about redox flow batteries, you'd think we'd all be driving vanadium battery electric cars by now. Instead, despite promises of commercialization, I encounter nothing but phone numbers and e-mails that go unanswered.

RE: Moore's law for hard disks

2005-05-17 Thread Don Wiegel
The Hard Drive is on its way out .. Currently MRAM is the NEW replacement technology In the near future they will achieve Hard Drive densities http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=lang_enc2coff=1q=MRAM How MRAM Works http://www.nve.com/otherbiz/mram.php Data is written by a small

Sonofusion page

2005-05-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://members.nuvox.net/~on.jwclymer/snf/ This includes a 1982 patent. - Jed

Re: Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds like something Douglas Adams would have said. ;-) Uh, like, yeah, Douglas Noel Adams, DNA.

Re: Moore's law for hard disks

2005-05-17 Thread Mathias Bage
On Tue, 17 May 2005, Jed Rothwell wrote: [snip] I think many people are beginning to reach the limits of disk storage requirements. I have not filled out more than a third of a disk in several years. If I were a manufacturer trying to compete in the hard disk business, rather than increasing

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread orionworks
From: Terry Blanton ... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds like something Douglas Adams would have said. ;-) Uh, like, yeah, Douglas Noel Adams, DNA. Learn somthing new every day! Thanks for the DNA clarification. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread orionworks
From: Jones Beene ... From other posts on Slashdot: The idea of storing and transmitting information via DNA was also proposed by Jaron Lanier in the Y2K issue of the NYT magazine. The NYT was running a contest to come up with a time capsule that would last till Y3K and asked various

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Plus this query caused a blinding flash of remembrance about a prior typically long-winded probably boring posting (boring to the non-Illuminated, shall we say) - which was actually a DNA obit (or is that orbit): You'll love Salmon. It begins

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Jones Beene
From: Terry Blanton Damn. I was so engrossed trying to figure out how much to pay Jonesee that I left off my DNA quote (you noticed he was born the year Crick, Watson, et.al. determined the double helix structure, right?): Excellent quote. Plus this query caused a blinding flash of

RE: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Keith Nagel
Needless to say, the aptly named Jones has eschewed my cautionary advice and eaten a whole handful of those delicious chocolate espresso beans. Fasten your safety belts, Vo, your collective inboxes are in for a lumpy ride. BTW, regarding my earlier post, we already have a massively paralleled

RE: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Keith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Needless to say, the aptly named Jones has eschewed my cautionary advice and eaten a whole handful of those delicious chocolate espresso beans. http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=q=%22chocolate+covered+coffee+beans%22 14,000 hits on the exact

Do Electrical Arcs Shape Planets

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
I have always wondered what the potential difference was between the earth and moon. This article extrapolates that question: http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050516marineris.htm

Mallove obituary

2005-05-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
[it has been one year since Gene was murdered. Here is an obituary I wrote for Infinite Energy magazine. The family objected to it, so naturally I acquiesced and withdrew it from publication. After all this time I suppose there is no harm to uploading it here. - Jed] Eugene Franklin Mallove To

Re: Mallove obituary

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
I came to vortex over a decade ago on a recommendation of Chris Tinsley (he *knew* I was crazy because he was a Brit). I had bought in to the common sense that CF was flawed. I have learned otherwise. In my heart (and elsewhere g) I named Chris, Jed and Gene the Three Musketeers of Cold

Re: What's the deal with redox batteries?

2005-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
Zell, Chris wrote: Given the amount of published enthusiasm about redox flow batteries, you'd think we'd all be driving vanadium battery electric cars Is this what you mean? http://www.vanadiumbattery.com/

Re: SciAm article on brain

2005-05-17 Thread Harry Veeder
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RE: Moore's law for hard disks

2005-05-17 Thread Grimer
At 01:01 pm 17/05/2005 -0600, Don wrote: The Hard Drive is on its way out .. Currently MRAM is the NEW replacement technology In the near future they will achieve Hard Drive densities http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=lang_enc2coff=1q=MRAM How MRAM Works

Re: Mallove obituary

2005-05-17 Thread Steven Krivit
Jed, I can understand why the family would decline to run your obit and think they made the right choice. As well, I am glad to see what you have written and shared publicly. It honors Gene and his search for truth. None of us is without flaws. To reflect the fullness of Gene as you did, is

Proposed Tesla energy tower

2005-05-17 Thread thomas malloy
The electrophysicist James McCanney in an interview on C to C AM just announced that he is planning on building a tower based on Tesla's design. He proposes to charge the air molecules above it. This charge continues until it reaches the ionosphere at which time energy starts to flow down. It

The Nick Cook Interview

2005-05-17 Thread thomas malloy
Nick Cook, author of Hunt for the Zero Point was interviewed on C to C AM recently. He maintains that we are on the verge of cohering the ZPE. While I would love to see this work, I've yet to see any evidence of it. I'm wondering if anyone has read his book? He is in the process of setting up