Re: [Vo]: PLEASE.... RE and not RE .

2006-06-18 Thread Grimer
At 01:21 am 18/06/2006 -0400, John Herman wrote: Dear Vo, Will any contributor please let the lay population of Votex know what the general terms mean if one reads: GAGE GAGUE re gage re gague re gageu or any variants of the above I fully realize these

Re: [Vo]: Free energy in magnets? (was Re: Read it again)

2006-06-18 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] My point is simply that if you use an electromagnet to lift the clip, the Lorentz explanation holds and you clearly have a relativistic effect. Wait a minute, what do you mean by a relativistic effect? Is any

Re: [Vo]: Free energy in magnets? (was Re: Read it again)

2006-06-18 Thread TP Sparber
Michel Jullian wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_current#The_drift_speed_of_electric_charges Almost unbelievable that such a low velocity leads to such a large relativistic effect, but I guess we can trust Einstein's maths. If you read between the lines Michel, I think you will

Re: [Vo]: Free energy in magnets? (was Re: Read it again)

2006-06-18 Thread TP Sparber
Make that electron Loop Current I = q* c/lambda Lambda = 2(pi)R = the Compton Wavelength (h/mc) Sorry about that. :-( Fred - Original Message - From: TP Sparber To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: 6/18/2006 5:56:25 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Free energy in magnets? (was Re: Read it again)

[Vo]: Re:[VO]:PLEASE...RE and not RE. Hunchbabe verbal shorthand

2006-06-18 Thread RC Macaulay
john herman wrote... I hope others in and of votrtex will ask this and similar terms to be understood some how OR: How will we know what vortexians are trying to talk about?? Howdy John, You may become aware as others that the English language is evolving into a "hunchbabe"

Re: [Vo]: Re:[VO]:PLEASE...RE and not RE. Hunchbabe verbal shorthand

2006-06-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
RC Macaulay wrote: You may become aware as others that the English language is evolving into a hunchbabe style communication medium. These evolving forms no longer concern proper spelling and diction. Those old forms of English are left to the Brits. On the contrary, American Engish is

[Vo]: cheap medicine - wOrthy effect

2006-06-18 Thread Heriberto
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[Vo]: Priceless !

2006-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
Apologies in advance to European readers who will not appreciate the contextual nuances in this post (first in a series): which is a take-off on the MasterCharge series of television advertisements in the USA. It is perhaps appropriate to use this particular cultural gimmick for 'drama' - as

[Vo]: Re: Priceless !

2006-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
It had been my intention to see who would be the first to comment on: 1) Bucket of rainwater - ten cents ... as being related to the high cost of everything these days, if bought with nearly wothless warbucks ... but to clarify the point: ... here is the situation which could result in a

[Vo]: Re Priceless !

2006-06-18 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Jones Beene Almost any small negative charge will likely be effective - and the 10 cents per bucketfull might suffice... although a kilowatt applied during a rain storm might be on the low side for a large roof       If your hypothesis is correct,

[Vo]: Re: Priceless !

2006-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
Terry, If your hypothesis is correct, should not burning my grandmother's old rain barrel generate more heat than burning another equivalent mass of wood? Keen observation. However, if hydrinohydrides diffused out of rainwater and accumulates in wood preferentially (as opposed to them

[Vo]: Re: Priceless !

2006-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
Oops.. G no doubt the inveterate TV viewers amongst us have noticed that the writer of the former piece has, in his groogy haste to belabor a point and hurry out a clever posting - totally and egrregiously misidentified the correct name of the charge-card and ad-campaign - it is MasterCard and

Re: [Vo]: Re: Priceless !

2006-06-18 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Jones Beene - it is MasterCard and not MasterCharge It's okay, coming from a lysdexic. Terry (just returning from the blessing of the corner column of the Shri Mandir being built practically in my back yard) http://www.mandir.org Fascinating!

[Vo]: Re: Priceless !

2006-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Grimer In fact that is the very reason that this species can have gone undetected by modern science. That's a very good point. Conventional science ain't very good with transient phenomena. That's why amateurs still make a big contribution in comet

Re: [Vo]: Free energy in magnets? (was Re: Read it again)

2006-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence The predicted magnetic field of a current can be obtained simply by Lorentz transforming the electric field from the rest frame of the charges making up the current to the frame of the observer moving

[Vo]: Beene's Floating Power Source

2006-06-18 Thread hohlrauml6d
Right idea, wrong power source: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0616-04.htm Floating nukes??

Re: [Vo]: cheap medicine - spam

2006-06-18 Thread William Beaty
Hmmm. If spammers send email to vortex-L, while forging the from address to be a vortex subscriber, then their spam gets through. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com

Re: [Vo]: Free energy in magnets? (was Re: Read it again)

2006-06-18 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Harry Veeder wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence The predicted magnetic field of a current can be obtained simply by Lorentz transforming the electric field from the rest frame of the charges making up the current to the frame of the

Re: [Vo]: Beene's Floating Power Source

2006-06-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0616-04.htm QUOTE: Sergey Kiriyenko, the head of Rosenergoatom, said: There will be no floating Chernobyl, referring to the 1986 nuclear disaster. Sergey Obozov, a senior official at the agency, said they would be reliable as a Kalashnikov assault

Re: [Vo]: Free energy in magnets? (was Re: Read it again)

2006-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Charges may be involved. However, the _reality_ of a permanent magnetic body is not recognised by a relativistic charged based model of magnetism. The relativistic model implies that the permanence of a permanent magnetic body is a matter of opinion since one

[Vo]: Jones' Post-Nocturnal Rumblings

2006-06-18 Thread hohlrauml6d
Have been documented in the UK? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/15/aurora/ excerpting: The aircraft has also been spotted across the US, in Norway and the Netherlands, often to the accompaniment of a deafening sonic boom and its characteristic donuts on a string con trail - caused by

[Vo]: [YO] [DEVO] [OT] Yellow Snow Script?

2006-06-18 Thread hohlrauml6d
http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/?articleID=4765 That yellowish stain has attracted the attention of NASA and the Canadian Space Agency because it has a link to extraterrestrial life, Beauchamp, the executive director of the Arctic Institute of North America, told Canada.com. (Frank

[Vo]: [YO]: [MOFO]: [OT]: Kal-El est Iesus?

2006-06-18 Thread hohlrauml6d
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/14/film.supermanchristfigur e.ap/ http://tinyurl.com/fbdl5 Some have also seen the hero as a gay icon, forced to live a double life with his super-self in the closet. A recent edition of the gay magazine The Advocate even asked on its cover, How

Re: [Vo]: Free energy in magnets? (was Re: Read it again)

2006-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Following up my last reply... Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Consider a pure B field (no E field) in inertial frame S. Consider two identical particles, particle P1, at rest in S, and particle P2, moving in S. P1 feels no force, and is not accelerating. A devout relativist (which I am not)