[Vo]: Re: Einstein's Elevator Le Sage's Gravity Theory

2007-01-26 Thread Frederick Sparber
Will a sphere within a sphere (a ball-bearing in a transparent hollow sphere) due to the gravitational attraction between them, center itself during free fall? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage%27s_theory_of_gravitation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_general_relativity Or?

[Vo]: Re:[VO]: Energy *Violations* using standard physics

2007-01-26 Thread RC Macaulay
Blank Excerps from Paul's post.. You are asking way too much from nature. Nature?.. do you mean Physics? we actually know little about physics.. perhaps some assumed values is all. My theory simply states energy is simply moved from one location to another. Location? do you mean

[Vo]: Re: Re: Einstein's Elevator Le Sage's Gravity Theory

2007-01-26 Thread RC Macaulay
Fred wrote.. Will a sphere within a sphere (a ball-bearing in a transparent hollow sphere) due to the gravitational attraction between them, center itself during free fall ? The inner ball should began to rotate until it begins to rub the inner wall. Richard

Re: [Vo]: Re: Einstein's Elevator Le Sage's Gravity Theory

2007-01-26 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Frederick Sparber wrote: Will a sphere within a sphere (a ball-bearing in a transparent hollow sphere) due to the gravitational attraction between them, center itself during free fall? First, in Newtonian gravitation: Inside a uniform spherical shell there's no gravitational field (no

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-26 Thread Paul
Hi, Michel Jullian wrote: I did read your reply, I did think for a while, but I still disagree ;-) You insist on some _internal_ energy being spent while the object falls. Where would it come from when the object is an elementary particle such as an electron, would it lose mass or

Re: [Vo]: Re:[VO]: Energy *Violations* using standard physics

2007-01-26 Thread Paul
RC Macaulay wrote: Blank Excerps from Paul's post.. You are asking way too much from nature. Nature?.. do you mean Physics? we actually know little about physics.. perhaps some assumed values is all. Some call it nature. Some call it the universe, etc. The name universe

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-26 Thread Michel Jullian
I didn't understand your reply, would the elementary particle (any particle, e.g. a neutron, a quark) lose something while falling towards a planet? BTW, I wonder if PE shouldn't be viewed as a property of the universe rather than of an object. BTW2, the universe is all that exists, by

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-26 Thread Harry Veeder
That begs the question how much PE does the universe have? Harry Michel Jullian wrote: I didn't understand your reply, would the elementary particle (any particle, e.g. a neutron, a quark) lose something while falling towards a planet? BTW, I wonder if PE shouldn't be viewed as a property

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-26 Thread Paul
Michel Jullian wrote: I didn't understand your reply, would the elementary particle (any particle, e.g. a neutron, a quark) lose something while falling towards a planet? Basically you're asking what sustains such particles. To perhaps provide you with a different POV, here's an analogy

[Vo]: was-Einstein's Elevator Le Sage's Gravity Theory

2007-01-26 Thread Harry Veeder
From the link Frederick Sparber provided on LeSage's theory of gravity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage%27s_theory_of_gravitation In the context of mainstream science (albeit not as an explanation of gravitation), the Lesage mechanism has been identified as a significant factor in the

Re: [Vo]: Re: Einstein's Elevator Le Sage's Gravity Theory

2007-01-26 Thread Harry Veeder
Consider the situation far from any planets or stars. If the ball-bearing is initially at the centre of the shell it will remain there. If it is initially off centre, the ball bearing and the shell will move so as to minimize the distance between the point on the shell that was initially

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-26 Thread Paul
Harry Veeder wrote: Paul, I think what you are alluding to is more correctly called power rather than energy. Indeed, power can be defined without the concept of energy. Hi Harry, The discussion was regarding PE. So I was referring to energy. Harry Veeder wrote: That begs the

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-26 Thread Harry Veeder
Paul wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: Paul, I think what you are alluding to is more correctly called power rather than energy. Indeed, power can be defined without the concept of energy. Hi Harry, The discussion was regarding PE. So I was referring to energy. I know. Let be

[Vo]: Launch Loop concept for earth to orbit access

2007-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
[This message bounced for some reason. It said Vortex-L does not exist.] Here is a fascinating concept! This resembles a space elevator, but the author believes it could be built with conventional materials, rather than superstrong materials that have not yet been invented. It seems like it

[Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday January 26, 2007

2007-01-26 Thread Akira Kawasaki
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Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-26 Thread Paul
Harry Veeder wrote: Paul wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: Paul, I think what you are alluding to is more correctly called power rather than energy. Indeed, power can be defined without the concept of energy. Hi Harry, The discussion was regarding PE. So I was referring

[Vo]: FW: [Vo]: Launch Loop concept for earth to orbit access

2007-01-26 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
That sounds really ingenious :-) ! Thanks for posting it. I was thinking of a much smaller application to aircraft, i.e. a lot of weight of an airplane is in the wing spar. Suppose a ring of mercury or any liquid is circulating around the wings at high speed holding tension on the wings. They

Re: [Vo]: Launch Loop concept for earth to orbit access

2007-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: moving along at 50,000 kph. (I think it is a steel band, but perhaps it is made up discrete pieces of iron?) It has to be a steel band. - Jed

[Vo]: Rethinking Alternative Energy

2007-01-26 Thread DonW
http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=342064rel_no=1 Rethinking Alternative Energy Some potentially powerful sources not getting attention Sebastian Baciu (SebastianB)   Alternative energy sources have been gaining increasing attention as of late, both in the media and