Dear Vortex,
I have not been following vortex for some time and now receive the
vortex digest.
The beginning of one is 'cut and pasted' below.
I read well and rapidly, but type very slowly.
AND at present my keyboard is a little "crunchy" and sometimes
does not put
the space
Paul and David posted
>> Are you the guy with the Aether theory of everything?
>> If so then when are you going to start on the list provided in
>>another thread?
>
> Are you telling me what to do? Would you like me to tell you what to
do?
>
Please take a look at what you replied to. Both
In reply to Harvey Norris's message of Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:45:46 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>Loud Explosion effect similar to hypothesized scalar
>interferometry. Ravenna(Portage Co Ohio) Military
>arsenal near epicenter; Folks near center not
>experience shock wave but outwards from center shock
>wa
Esa Ruoho wrote:
> On 14/03/07, nothing of worth was said by two or twenty people fighting
> amongst themselves
>
I think you are correct. Debates are good, but this thread with Dave is the
only Vo thread I've seen that's useless. IMHO it's honestly like talking to an
adolescent child.
I'l
David Thomson wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
>> Can you understand the difference between my research focused on capturing
>
> usable ambient temperature energy and your extensive Aether theory?
>
> Yes, my theory is based upon real math, your "research" is based upon
> dreams. That is not rhetoric, it is a
hi so what do you lot think of vladimir b ginzburg?
seems to be slightly touched in the head about vortices!
its a shame his website helicola.com is offline - but he has published 3
books, 3 of which are on amazon. seems fun, he even has a thing called the 3
dimensional spiral super-string theory!
Hi Paul,
> Can you understand the difference between my research focused on capturing
usable ambient temperature energy and your extensive Aether theory?
Yes, my theory is based upon real math, your "research" is based upon
dreams. That is not rhetoric, it is a fact.
> Seriously, can you compr
David Thomson wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
>> No offense, but IMHO this conversation is silly and a waste of time. I
> generally prefer to converse with people at Vo that are primarily interested
> in research geared toward generating so-called "free energy." Are you are
> working on such research? If i
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Harry wrote..
>An article on the work titled "Paradox in Wave-Particle Duality" recently
published in Foundations of Physics, a prestigious, refereed academic
journal, supports Albert Einsteins long-debated belief that quantum physics
is incomplete. For eight decades the scien
Howdy David and Paul,
Please don't throw things in the saloon in Dime Box Texas. Someone may break
the mirror behind the bar with the picture of the "nekkid" woman and get a
fight started.
Richard
Loud Explosion effect similar to hypothesized scalar
interferometry. Ravenna(Portage Co Ohio) Military
arsenal near epicenter; Folks near center not
experience shock wave but outwards from center shock
wave evident at 3.6 on Richter scale. Effects
predominant ALONG OHIO TURNPIKE FROM EAST TO WEST a
Hi Paul,
> No offense, but IMHO this conversation is silly and a waste of time. I
generally prefer to converse with people at Vo that are primarily interested
in research geared toward generating so-called "free energy." Are you are
working on such research? If it's fine with you, lets try and
Nick Palmer wrote:
> Harry Veeder wrote:-
> < So I cam calling on them to TEST the claim. This is not engineering request.
> It is a scientific request!>>
>
> This COP you are talking about is the ratio of input electrical power to
> output heat. Jed was trying to explain to you that this figure
No offense, but IMHO this conversation is silly and a waste of time. I
generally prefer to converse with people at Vo that are primarily interested in
research geared toward generating so-called "free energy." Are you are working
on such research? If it's fine with you, lets try and put an en
Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Harry Veeder wrote:
>
>>> point to bothering with them. We can improve the COP anytime, but
>>> that proves nothing and contributes nothing to our understanding of
>>> the phenomenon.
>>
>> It is hypothetical until you try it. It may be that the conditions
>> which they thi
Take your time, I'll go offline now. Talk to you tomorrow.
Michel
- Original Message -
From: "Michel Jullian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Cold Fusion skeptic Dr. Michael Shermer
> I'll let you find the error yourself it's quite o
Hi Paul,
> No, my definition of thugs is people working for the cause to suppress
technology considered dangerous in the hands of terrorists or rogue
countries such as Iran or North Korea.
You mean like machine guns, hand grenades, and nuclear bombs? It's a little
late for that, don't you think
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
> Howdy Paul,
> You may try contacting Leupold & Stevens Instrument Company in
> Beaverton/Portland, Oregon. They do some work in this area with night
> vision scopes. They are good people.
> Richard
Hi Richard,
Thanks. I'll look them up.
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
> Howdy Paul,
I'll let you find the error yourself it's quite obvious. Same error in the two
quotes.
Michel
- Original Message -
From: "Edmund Storms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Cold Fusion skeptic Dr. Michael Shermer
...
>> -> Ed
>> The title
Harry Veeder wrote:-
<>
This COP you are talking about is the ratio of input electrical power to
output heat. Jed was trying to explain to you that this figure is only
marginally relevant to improving the CF reaction. This topic was discussed
right back at the beginning, almost 17 years ago. T
Michel Jullian wrote:
-> Jed
I think you mean the ratio of chemical energy out (energy stored in
electrolysis products H2 and O2, which you can recover as heat by recombining
them) to electrical energy in. This ratio is close to but cannot exceed one,
and not only won't it make any useful d
-> Jed
I think you mean the ratio of chemical energy out (energy stored in
electrolysis products H2 and O2, which you can recover as heat by recombining
them) to electrical energy in. This ratio is close to but cannot exceed one,
and not only won't it make any useful difference to improve it, bu
David Thomson wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
>> No, the "thugs" are concerned about the release of advanced technology.
>> You're thinking of the science community,
>
> There is technically no such thing as "advanced technology" that is not
> defined as "science that works."
Advanced technology is leading
Hi Paul,
> No, the "thugs" are concerned about the release of advanced technology.
> You're thinking of the science community,
There is technically no such thing as "advanced technology" that is not
defined as "science that works."
The imagined "thugs" are no more than scientists asking you t
On 3/14/07, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John Berry wrote:
>You say they are experts of pancaking buildings and yet you don't
>cite a single case where they have pulled a single floor (in an
>otherwise unweakened building) and had it pancake at freefall speeds.
This has happened hun
Howdy Paul,
I thought you may have picked up on my comment regarding light has "weight"
and expand on it.
Richard
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Lowrance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: MIB persuasions
David Thomson wrote:
> Hi P
Howdy Paul,
You may try contacting Leupold & Stevens Instrument Company in
Beaverton/Portland, Oregon. They do some work in this area with night vision
scopes. They are good people.
Richard
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Lowrance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 20
David Thomson wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
>> What Freedomfuel doesn't want to accept is that my research is based on
> old classical physics! Furthermore, as just one of many examples, modern
> society is killing this planet from gas burning machines.
>
> Actually, they would be more interested in your r
Hi Paul,
> What Freedomfuel doesn't want to accept is that my research is based on
old classical physics! Furthermore, as just one of many examples, modern
society is killing this planet from gas burning machines.
Actually, they would be more interested in your research if you could prove
it is
Harry Veeder wrote:
> point to bothering with them. We can improve the COP anytime, but
> that proves nothing and contributes nothing to our understanding of
> the phenomenon.
It is hypothetical until you try it. It may be that the conditions
which they think will increase the COP actual decrea
That's an idea. It could be difficult to verify what type of active material the
FIR goggles use. I think public night vision goggles use InSb or similar
material. The very expensive military night vision goggles use the expensive
HgCdTe god material. Not sure, but perhaps the really cheap gog
Try buying surplus night vision goggles, or another
component that has the device you want. You might be
able to scavenge parts...
Just a thought
G
--- Paul Lowrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> More discoveries. It appears a HgTe photodiode is
> just about the ultimate
> material for this res
Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Harry Veeder wrote:
>
>> So most reseachers claim they (implicitly) know enough about the phenomena
>> to improve the COP, but it is beneath them to test this claim??
>
> No, that is not what I mean. Please read the message more carefully
> and stop putting words in my mout
Just curious if other people get periodic bothersome PM's from a user at
overunity.com by the name Freedomfuel. He just sent me another PM -->
Quote:
---
Hi paul
We have to face up to the fact that there are real national security and public
safety issues with 'free energy' and that this is t
Harry Veeder wrote:
So most reseachers claim they (implicitly) know enough about the phenomena
to improve the COP, but it is beneath them to test this claim??
No, that is not what I mean. Please read the message more carefully
and stop putting words in my mouth.
Anyone with knowledge of ele
Paul,
I don't know.
The Afshar experiment is new to me.
Harry
Paul Lowrance wrote:
> Hi Harry,
>
> I've been lightly following the Afshar experiment for some time at WikiPedia.
> The article -->
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afshar_experiment
>
> and the discussion -->
>
> http://en.wik
More discoveries. It appears a HgTe photodiode is just about the ultimate
material for this research. It has a band gap of zero eV! Various amounts of Cd
(Hg[x-1]Cd[x]Te) increases the band gap to whatever value you want. Here are
some interesting quotes -->
Quote #1 from WikiPedia:
---
Owin
Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Harry Veeder wrote:
>
>> What makes you sure that COP measurements are not vital to understanding
>> the phenomena?
>
> I think this question is addressed to Ed Storms, but he is probably
> sick of responding, so let me answer one last time.
>
> The required level input po
Hi,
The following is an important consideration for those interested in the very
real upcoming technology that will capture significant continuous energy day or
night from ambient temperature (surrounding air and Earth).
Silicon and Germanium are what is called *Indirect band gap* material. T
Depending on which version (in time) of Wiki one happens to get hold-of,
under the "cold fusion" entry - you may or may not find the Szpak et al.
electron-capture model mentioned, and instead there will be this:
"In 2005, Alan Widom and Lewis Larsen proposed a theory that could
explain the expe
A, thank you Edmund.
Michel
- Original Message -
From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:29 PM
Subject: [Vo]: New paper by Storms
> This was discussed here yesterday:
>
> Storms, E., Anomalous Heat Produced by Electrolysis of Palladium
> usin
John Berry wrote:
You say they are experts of pancaking buildings and yet you don't
cite a single case where they have pulled a single floor (in an
otherwise unweakened building) and had it pancake at freefall speeds.
This has happened hundreds of times. NIST and others have detailed
records
John Berry wrote:
"I think Biberian is still pursuing this. His biggest problem is that
the anode and cathode heat up and lose contact. In other words, they
do not touch, which causes a failure -- the opposite from liquid
electrolysis. "
Wow, you must have some creative reading ability to
On 3/14/07, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
john herman wrote:
>Either you you do not read what you write ...OR
> You are reporting matters outof context
>
>[a] In an aqueous electrolytic system the anode and the cathode are not
>supposed to touch.
>[b] what the Bleet
On 3/14/07, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John Berry wrote:
>A ha, so now who is an authority on pancaking skyscrapers?
>No one.
As noted previously, the people at Controlled Demolition are experts
at pancaking skyscrapers. They have destroyed thousands of
structures, some as large a
This was discussed here yesterday:
Storms, E., Anomalous Heat Produced by Electrolysis of Palladium
using a Heavy-Water Electrolyte. 2007, LENR-CANR.org.
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEanomalousha.pdf
- Jed
Hi Harry,
I've been lightly following the Afshar experiment for some time at WikiPedia.
The article -->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afshar_experiment
and the discussion -->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Afshar_experiment
Has there been a recent change in this debate? Last I checked th
Michel Jullian wrote:
Now, Edmund, could you please refrain your own humility and kindly
recommend one of your F&P excess heat experimental papers? I am not
familiar with F&P as you know. I am looking for good experimental
papers on the subject, notably one of yours if you could advise me.
F
Harry Veeder wrote:
What makes you sure that COP measurements are not vital to understanding
the phenomena?
I think this question is addressed to Ed Storms, but he is probably
sick of responding, so let me answer one last time.
The required level input power is governed by mundane electroch
john herman wrote:
Either you you do not read what you write ...OR
You are reporting matters outof context
[a] In an aqueous electrolytic system the anode and the cathode are not
supposed to touch.
[b] what the Bleet Hawses are you trying to communicate...???
Just what I s
John Berry wrote:
A ha, so now who is an authority on pancaking skyscrapers?
No one.
As noted previously, the people at Controlled Demolition are experts
at pancaking skyscrapers. They have destroyed thousands of
structures, some as large as municipal stadiums. Also, the people at
NIST are
Jones Beene wrote:
... Last week an independent researcher, reviewing
video archives of the BBC's 9/11 coverage, divulged the
earth-shaking incongruence. A BBC reporter in Manhattan
- the lady-talking-head at the center of this forming
vortex - as she was reading the news to Brits - with the
WTC
BlankHarry wrote..
>An article on the work titled "Paradox in Wave-Particle Duality" recently
published in Foundations of Physics, a prestigious, refereed academic
journal, supports Albert Einstein¹s long-debated belief that quantum physics
is incomplete. For eight decades the scientific community
Richard, did you hear the latest news?
BBC reported 20 minutes before WTC7 collapsed that it had collapsed.
But they didn't say WTC7, if they had you might have thought they got their
numbers muddled, they called it by it's full name, the Solomon Brothers
Building which they mentioned had after t
John, I figured since you're active I might get your opinion on Podkletnov's
more recent experiments (admittedly not that recent, just not the old ones
you successfully replicated) accomplished by discharges from a high voltage
source.
Since that is a souped up replication of the Morton effect wh
Dear Vortex and Jed,
I post a 'cut-and-paste' from one of Jed's posts.
NB..please see comment, below...
No, because you'd never base everything on a an appeal to authority
would you?
No, I never do. I had excellent teachers and I learned to avoid all
of the common logical errors
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