Jed Rothwell wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
And if you believe that, you will also believe that Martin
Fleischmann, Stanley Pons, Ed Storms, Mike McKubre and ~2,000
professional scientists are engaged in a massive deception to
convince the world that cold fusion is real by publishing fake
The author of this book is almost certainly a professional liar or deluded or -
giving him the most benefit-of-the-doubt possible - he is seriously misled and
is not capable of making a valid rational assessment of data and evidence in
the face of the glaringly obvious. He uses cherry picked
From Mark Iverson:
This sounds too good to be true... a wind generator that doesn't need any
wind!
http://pesn.com/2009/03/11/9501531_Boswell_windless_turbine/
-Mark
Exerpt:
Strange Phone Calls
Jim said he has tried to contact media, motor and government
officials from local to
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
As soon as you include the biosphere in the calculations, then all
the individual interactions that occur within the biosphere are also
included, by default (and there are trillions of them). And you
can't leave the biosphere out, because the annual swings in CO2
thomas malloy wrote:
The notion that thousands of climate experts are engaged in a
massive fraud is preposterous beyond words. It is conceivable that
they are wrong, but absolutely, positively out of the question that
they are engaged in fraud or that
The point of my posting these reports
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From: OrionWorks
This sounds too good to be true... a wind generator that doesn't need any
wind!
[JB:] I am told by an associate in the Fresno area that you magic windmill
guy is well-known there as a political hack and nut case with no
credibility. In general, you
Greetings, all,
Yes. It is human nature when things are complicated and much unseen to
conclude that the situation must be caused by a cabal or a conspiracy.
Usually, though, these perplexing and often frustrating human-based
situations are the result of inadvertent patterns of interaction and
From Jones:
...
... Sterling Allan is too often an unquestioning
advocate of every claim - and does not even try to vet most of
his articles for the simple reason that he, like almost everyone in
alternative energy is understaffed and underfunded - and mainly
because there are always going
-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks [
I hope Mr. Allan never ever looses his quest to dream the impossible
dream, to look under every rock ...
[JB:] There are dedicated sites for wind energy. The first place any
legitimate windpower inventor would go, would be there. The claim of 100
Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
Yes. It is human nature when things are complicated and much unseen to
conclude that the situation must be caused by a cabal or a conspiracy.
The situations with cold fusion and global warming denial do not seem
complicated or unseen to me. I don't know much about
Jones Beene wrote:
In 2008, the U.S. wind industry activated over 8,300 MW of new capacity . . .
Equivalent to roughly 3 average nuke plants after converting
nameplate apples to oranges. I'll bet it was way cheaper than
building 3 nukes. Faster, too.
At the peak of nuke plant construction
From Jones:
[JB:] There are dedicated sites for wind energy. The first place
any legitimate windpower inventor would go, would be there. The
claim of 100 windmills in operation is a giveaway - a red flag
the size of China that this guy is a fraud
BTW in looking on a legitimate wind
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From: OrionWorks [
I keep hoping there is still serious RD working on the technology to
harvest wind energy from 10,000 - 15,000 feet, where the jet stream
blows faithfully 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, and at several times
the ground speed. Yeah, yeah, I know... I
Jed,
On several occasions you have opined that people in the CF field have
done a poor job of PR. Please explain how this can be done better.
Remember, this is science, not selling soap. Only certain methods are
acceptable without making the claims look like a scam, which other
Nick Palmer
On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it
- Original Message -
From: thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net
To: Nick Palmer ni...@wynterwood.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Red Hot Lies
Nick Palmer wrote:
The
(By the way, this list now includes fpur or five Stephens of one
spelling or another, and either two or three Stephen Lawrence's.)
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
Yes. It is human nature when things are complicated and much unseen to
conclude that the situation must be caused
Jones Beene wrote:
... plus if we can also use the a long antenna-tether as the ballast i.e.
as the required drag mechanism against the absolute wind speed (in addition
to the drag of the collection airfoils or propellers), then that long tether
(half mile long??) which is a conductive
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As the smoke cleared, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
As soon as you include the biosphere in the calculations, then all the
individual interactions that occur within the
http://www.lenr-canr.org/StudentsGuide.htm
Terry
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:32 AM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
See:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-your-own-books-from-wikipedia/
http://tinyurl.com/c9l3lg
How'bout a primer on CF?
steve
--
Regards
Steven Vincent
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a shame they can't build those things in Georgia or the rest of the
southeast. We have no wind.
We have plenty of wind in GA from January to April, when the
legislature is in session. :-)
Terry
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
IIRC this was blamed on the motion of the Shuttle across
the Earth's magnetic field.
Was it? I thought it was due to the difference in potential of the
earth gradient and the failure was due to insulation breakdown.
Terry Blanton wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
IIRC this was blamed on the motion of the Shuttle across
the Earth's magnetic field.
Was it? I thought it was due to the difference in potential of the
earth gradient and the failure was due
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From: Stephen A. Lawrence
! Hey, that sounds like it has real potential (no pun intended)!
Remember the tethered satellite fiasco?
[JB:] Yes, that is what I had in mind
Now, a free-flying kite (or, perhaps more practically, a balloon) would
be moving
I don't know what they are. They kinda look like the preying mantis
types described by abductees:
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=7439
Terry
Edmund Storms wrote:
On several occasions you have opined that people in the CF field have
done a poor job of PR. Please explain how this can be done better.
Remember, this is science, not selling soap.
THAT is your first mistake! This is not science. It is selling soap,
and more to the
From Terry:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/StudentsGuide.htm
Terry
See:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-your-own-books-from-wikipedia/
http://tinyurl.com/c9l3lg
How'bout a primer on CF?
Would it be worth it to translate the Student Guide into a Wiki version?
Just wondering out
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Most others just parrot what they read in Wikipedia.
Cold fusion aside, this is actually not a completely stupid thing to do.
As much as I dislike Wikipedia, I must agree. Wikipedia is a good
source of information about conventional subjects. It is not such a
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As the smoke cleared, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:
This is not caused by an Oligarchy but rather by specific people such
as the editor of the Scientific American, the science writer for Time
magazine,
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As the smoke cleared, Lawrence de Bivort ldebiv...@earthlink.net
mounted the barricade and roared out:
Greetings, all,
Yes. It is human nature when things are complicated and much unseen to
conclude that the situation must be caused by a cabal
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:29:19 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
An effect originating in complex phenomena may, in turn, cause
a simple, predictable secondary effect.
[snip]
The secondary effect is only predictable in the sense that one can say A will
cause B. It is not
On Mar 12, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Edmund Storms wrote:
On several occasions you have opined that people in the CF field have
done a poor job of PR. Please explain how this can be done better.
Remember, this is science, not selling soap.
THAT is your first mistake! This is
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
An effect originating in complex phenomena may, in turn, cause
a simple, predictable secondary effect.
[snip]
The secondary effect is only predictable in the sense that one can say A will
cause B. It is not predictable in the sense that one can say A will happen at
Just to summarize my previous message briefly --
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
The secondary effect is only predictable in the sense that one can say A will
cause B. It is not predictable in the sense that one can say A will happen at
such and such a time, and consequently B will happen also.
Edmund Storms wrote:
The people who try to sell science like soap always fail.
On the contrary, they are doing quite well. They
have sold opposition to cold fusion with no more
credence than the 1950s soap advertisement --
without a shred of actual scientific content --
and they have
Snip
Frankly, I am somewhat fed up from hearing from you -- and much more
often from cold fusion researchers -- that nothing can be done and
that we should not even try, and that I do not understand scientists
or how science is done. Scientists are people, and I know a thing or
two
According to a news report I just heard, Minnesota had a record low for
March 12 this morning in Embarass.
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Jed Rothwell wrote:
...
If I am wrong and the time cannot be shortened, then I expect there is
no hope of success. In that case I have wasted most of my adult life. I
refuse to believe that, and I /absolutely/ refuse to give up. Churchill
has nothing on me; see:
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As the smoke cleared, Harry Veeder hvee...@ncf.ca
mounted the barricade and roared out:
To me it looks like a anorexic version of Gumby, especially in the
second video.
Harry
I think I first saw THOUSANDS of these things when Disney's Fantasia
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
We have plenty of wind in GA from January to April, when the
legislature is in session. :-)
I'd be willing to have some tax $ go to mounting wind generators vertically
like ceiling fans in all
state and federal Congressional and Senate
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