Re: [Vo]:MIBs Miffed at Mylow Minderbinder's Magnetic Motor
Jones Beene wrote: - Original Message From: Terry Blanton http://pesn.com/2009/04/03/9501537_Mylow-threatened_told_to_stop/ Can't even trust your own lawyer. That little detail is far easier to believe than a lawyer who makes house calls to an underemployed truck driver, who cannot even remember the lawyer's name. Hey, doofus - who did you write the check to, or was the legal work 'pro bono' ;-) Can you spell 'gullible'? Signed, Yossarian, esq. legal counsel to MMM Inter-prizes One of the Vortexians calculated that even if we mined all the neodymium in the crust and fabricated it into magnets, and build magnetic motors, they would at best provide 10% of our present energy consumption. OTOH, if the MIB come knocking on my door, well I'll keep you posted. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
I think I figured it out... Grok is not a real person. It’s a mediocre computer sci student's implementation of the Turing Test! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test Barely passing grade if you ask me. But it'd probably keep the shrinks busy for a few hours. ;-) -Mark -Original Message- From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: I think salient question is What makes people feel frightened and insecure? It is indeed a salient question. Nevertheless, I think I would prefer to explore what makes us happy. ... People are happy when they get what they want, and they want to have their cake and eat it too. :) Pure socialism epitomizes fairness. Pure capitalism epitomizes freedom. That's a completely false juxtaposition. 'License' is not Freedom -- even tho' the capitalists make it their business to see to it that people do not make the distinction. Fact is, socialism is about Fairness AND Freedom -- because for one thing: being fair is all about being free. Think about it. To wit: What people really want is both fairness and freedom. They need not be totally mutually exclusive, but they must be to some extent. The point has been well-made that true freedom comes with understanding the real and concrete limits imposed by necessity -- i.e. it is only a false, ideal image we have of any 'Freedom' that doesn't have much, if anything, to do with real life. Understanding real limits allows us to understand just how we are _actually_ free in any meaningful sense. IOW we will never be totally happy. The problem with idealist thinking is that it deals in abstract absolutes - -- which have not much to do with Reality. People will be as happy as any animal can be, under communism (never for long, if ever, under capitalism). And who could want more. ; - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn5E0QACgkQXo3EtEYbt3HDiwCdF2lI24TyVZEvovifVwjPu3Ot MzIAnRJ2wy2josDnxurvxwbpH4xvG2P6 =tPgF -END PGP SIGNATURE- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.8/2086 - Release Date: 4/29/2009 6:37 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.8/2086 - Release Date: 4/29/2009 6:37 AM
Re: [Vo]:MIBs Miffed at Mylow Minderbinder's Magnetic Motor
That was based on known placer mines. Placer mines have veins of these rare earths which makes extraction simple and inexpensive. However, some countries, India for example, extract their Nd from sand. I am also aware of a patented extraction method which works similar to uranium enrichment centrifuges that can extract Nd from iron mine tailings. If we need it, we can get more. Terry On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:12 AM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote: Jones Beene wrote: - Original Message From: Terry Blanton http://pesn.com/2009/04/03/9501537_Mylow-threatened_told_to_stop/ Can't even trust your own lawyer. That little detail is far easier to believe than a lawyer who makes house calls to an underemployed truck driver, who cannot even remember the lawyer's name. Hey, doofus - who did you write the check to, or was the legal work 'pro bono' ;-) Can you spell 'gullible'? Signed, Yossarian, esq. legal counsel to MMM Inter-prizes One of the Vortexians calculated that even if we mined all the neodymium in the crust and fabricated it into magnets, and build magnetic motors, they would at best provide 10% of our present energy consumption. OTOH, if the MIB come knocking on my door, well I'll keep you posted. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
[Vo]:Tech Plus does a nice story about me
Technology Plus does a nice story about me. http://www.tplusinc.com/Lounge/ I'm still working on average 27 hrs per of overtime.? I been doing this since Thanksgiving. I am sick of it.? I want to do other things with my life now. Thanks Jed? Steve Jones reprots that he did obtain cold fusion with deuterated cement. This is the highest temperature deutrated material that I can come up with just now. enjoy Frank Z
Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
From Grok: We were lucky that we lived down in El Salvador between major elections. We were told it was not safe to be out on the streets during certain political demonstrations. Fortunately, there has been some land reform since our stay. Gee, and I used to work for the FMLN. Just ask the CIA. Did you, now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMLN A shame they fucked it up -- and ARENA ran the country until just now. Still a shitty place if you're poor, from what I understand. From what I can tell, some things have improved. Some things haven't. Meanwhile, you have conveniently dodged a question I asked you previously. I'll state it again: Let me see if I got this right. It is your belief that you will not be truly happy until –THE- revolution comes? Let me rephrase that: What makes you happy, Grok? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Video of Dr. Robert Duncan at The Missouri Energy Summit
From Walter Faxon. Gentlemen: Dr. Robert Duncan, vice chancellor for research and a professor of physics, University of Missouri-Columbia, spoke at The Missouri Energy Summit, a conference sponsored by the University of Missouri System, April 22-23, 2009. His subject: Prospects for Discovery of New Energy Science. The official abstract of his talk: Dr. Robert Duncan spoke on the importance of objective scientific method in the exploration of new ideas, using cold fusion as an example. And he referenced his recent appearance on 60 Minutes regarding the subject. Both the video of his talk and his powerpoint slides are available at: https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/handle/10355/1263https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/handle/10355/1263 In the video he is the 2nd speaker after Dr. Richard Sayre. He is introduced about 31 minutes in. [Video here:] https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/1263/InvitedspeakersSayreDuncan.wmv See also the bio of Dr. Duncan at: http://www.umsystem.edu/summits/energy2009/program/speakers/#duncanhttp://www.umsystem.edu/summits/energy2009/program/speakers/#duncan FYI !
FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
-Original Message- From: Jeff Fink [mailto:rev...@ptd.net] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:02 AM To: 'g...@resist.ca' Subject: RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity -Original Message- From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fact is, socialism is about Fairness AND Freedom -- because for one thing: being fair is all about being free. Think about it. I just got finished thinking about it. There is no freedom in socialism. Freedom and equality are mutually exclusive concepts unless you limit the definition of equality to equal opportunity rather than equal result. Equal opportunity allows us the freedom to prosper from hard work or suffer the consequences of laziness. With real freedom, some people will get ahead of others. Some call this unfair. They want equality of result without the effort. They want the results of someone else's effort to flow into their pockets, and that is what I call wealth redistribution, and that is what I call unfair. Too many people are riding on the wagon, leaving fewer and fewer to pull the wagon. Many of us in the harness, who are straining and sweating under the load, are beginning to look over our shoulder and see the huge crowd lounging and partying in the wagon, and they are saying, Why am I doing all this work. This is unfair. If we can't ride in the wagon perhaps we should at least have a tea party. Jeff
Re: [Vo]:Video of Dr. Robert Duncan at The Missouri Energy Summit
From Jed: From Walter Faxon. Gentlemen: Dr. Robert Duncan, vice chancellor for research and a professor of physics, University of Missouri-Columbia, spoke at The Missouri Energy Summit, a conference sponsored by the University of Missouri System, April 22-23, 2009. His subject: Prospects for Discovery of New Energy Science. The official abstract of his talk: Dr. Robert Duncan spoke on the importance of objective scientific method in the exploration of new ideas, using cold fusion as an example. And he referenced his recent appearance on 60 Minutes regarding the subject. Both the video of his talk and his powerpoint slides are available at: https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/handle/10355/1263 In the video he is the 2nd speaker after Dr. Richard Sayre. He is introduced about 31 minutes in. [Video here:] https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/1263/InvitedspeakersSayreDuncan.wmv See also the bio of Dr. Duncan at: http://www.umsystem.edu/summits/energy2009/program/speakers/#duncan Fan-Tastic. Thank you, Jed. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Patterson Interview
Vortexians; Several months ago I found Robert Patterson through an Internet search for Schauberger technology. In this clip Sterling Allen interviews him. While I find his energy antenna and wireless transmission of energy interesting, what I'd really like to get your opinion on is the lifter technology, so when you have 35 minutes, watch this. http://speedstream.netro.ca/osen/robert_patterson_uncut500.wmv --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
Mark Iverson wrote: I think I figured it out... Grok is not a real person. It’s a mediocre computer sci student's implementation of the Turing Test! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test Barely passing grade if you ask me. But it'd probably keep the shrinks busy for a few hours. IMHO, Grok is living proof of what Michael Savage, host of the Savage Nation radio show, contends, liberalism is a mental disorder. He is also proof that leftists view everything through the lens of, economics being the root cause of everything. His creative spelling is one manifestation of the leftist belief that they have a right to change the English language to fit their ends. Their most important end is usually the advancing of their political agenda. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: From Grok: We were lucky that we lived down in El Salvador between major elections. We were told it was not safe to be out on the streets during certain political demonstrations. Fortunately, there has been some land reform since our stay. Gee, and I used to work for the FMLN. Just ask the CIA. Did you, now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMLN Well, yes I did. Up here in el Norte. Like I said: ask the CIA. Some people on this eList are likely close enuff to them to get the straight dope. Or the crooked dope. A shame they fucked it up -- and ARENA ran the country until just now. Still a shitty place if you're poor, from what I understand. From what I can tell, some things have improved. Some things haven't. Meanwhile, you have conveniently dodged a question I asked you previously. I'll state it again: Let me see if I got this right. It is your belief that you will not be truly happy until -THE- revolution comes? Let me rephrase that: What makes you happy, Grok? People ask lots of leading questions, fella. This one's right up there, AFAIC. The problem I have with the kind of people who ask such questions is their generally unexamined assumption that they themselves have done quite alright by The System. Of course, they seldom ask themselves just what sort of system it is they are profiting from... I live for a future *communist* society, Jack. This one's pretty shot. And has been for over 100 years. 150.000.000+ massacred human beings in the past century -- not to mention the enslavement of many more than that -- are testament enuff to that. It's sure nice to be one of the ones on the top of the heap, isn't it..? - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn5xBEACgkQXo3EtEYbt3GMfgCgiU5/5w6fRo0vfQMq0fATnbjQ lz4An1YqA8jy6fyDfD7KzzUsz+9Y190d =vdJ/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
- Original Message - From: Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:06 am Subject: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity -Original Message- From: Jeff Fink [mailto:rev...@ptd.net] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:02 AM To: 'g...@resist.ca' Subject: RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity -Original Message- From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fact is, socialism is about Fairness AND Freedom -- because for one thing: being fair is all about being free. Think about it. I just got finished thinking about it. There is no freedom in socialism. Freedom and equality are mutually exclusive concepts unless you limit the definition of equality to equal opportunity rather than equal result. Equal opportunity allows us the freedom to prosper from hard work or suffer the consequences of laziness. With real freedom, some people will get ahead of others. Some call this unfair. They want equality of result without the effort. They want the results of someone else's effort to flow into their pockets, and that is what I call wealth redistribution, and that is what I call unfair. Too many people are riding on the wagon, leaving fewer and fewer to pull the wagon. Many of us in the harness, who are straining and sweating under the load, are beginning to look over our shoulder and see the huge crowd lounging and partying in the wagon, and they are saying, Why am I doing all this work. This is unfair. If we can't ride in the wagon perhaps we should at least have a tea party. Jeff how do you measure person's effort? by a person's income? Harry
Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net mounted the barricade and roared out: -Original Message- From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity Fact is, socialism is about Fairness AND Freedom -- because for one thing: being fair is all about being free. Think about it. I just got finished thinking about it. There is no freedom in socialism. So you claim to be a scientist or sumthin' huh..? Fancy that. Freedom and equality are mutually exclusive concepts unless you limit the definition of equality to equal opportunity rather than equal result. Equal opportunity allows us the freedom to prosper from hard work or suffer the consequences of laziness. With real freedom, some people will get ahead of others. Some call this unfair. They want equality of result without the effort. They want the results of someone else's effort to flow into their pockets, and that is what I call wealth redistribution, and that is what I call unfair. This is real highschool stuff, Jeffie... I deal in concretes, eh? This is the kind of pap they feed you at the JayCees or the Young Republican club. Or you get every day off Fox Nooze. Too many people are riding on the wagon, leaving fewer and fewer to pull the wagon. Many of us in the harness, who are straining and sweating under the load, are beginning to look over our shoulder and see the huge crowd lounging and partying in the wagon, and they are saying, Why am I doing all this work. This is unfair. If we can't ride in the wagon perhaps we should at least have a tea party. Jeff I'll bet you've got a huge GUN collection, right..? - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn5xUcACgkQXo3EtEYbt3GH1gCgzDvqVZ0SFgWD9Y2p6Sd9fg7n AYQAoLcwwtLb0Mngfvk+4TZUneuB4ICj =lj+P -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: From Grok: We were lucky that we lived down in El Salvador between major elections. We were told it was not safe to be out on the streets during certain political demonstrations. Fortunately, there has been some land reform since our stay. Gee, and I used to work for the FMLN. Just ask the CIA. Did you, now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMLN Well, yes I did. Up here in el Norte. Like I said: ask the CIA. Some people on this eList are likely close enuff to them to get the straight dope. Or the crooked dope. A shame they fucked it up -- and ARENA ran the country until just now. Still a shitty place if you're poor, from what I understand. From what I can tell, some things have improved. Some things haven't. Meanwhile, you have conveniently dodged a question I asked you previously. I'll state it again: Let me see if I got this right. It is your belief that you will not be truly happy until -THE- revolution comes? Let me rephrase that: What makes you happy, Grok? People ask lots of leading questions, fella. This one's right up there, AFAIC. The problem I have with the kind of people who ask such questions is their generally unexamined assumption that they themselves have done quite alright by The System. Of course, they seldom ask themselves just what sort of system it is they are profiting from... I live for a future *communist* society, Jack. This one's pretty shot. And has been for over 100 years. 150.000.000+ massacred human beings in the past century -- not to mention the enslavement of many more than that -- are testament enuff to that. It's sure nice to be one of the ones on the top of the heap, isn't it..? - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn5xBEACgkQXo3EtEYbt3GMfgCgiU5/5w6fRo0vfQMq0fATnbjQ lz4An1YqA8jy6fyDfD7KzzUsz+9Y190d =vdJ/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
From Grok: Gee, and I used to work for the FMLN. Just ask the CIA. Did you, now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMLN Well, yes I did. Up here in el Norte. Like I said: ask the CIA. Some people on this eList are likely close enuff to them to get the straight dope. Or the crooked dope. Guess I'll have to ask my kontacts. ;-) ... Meanwhile, you have conveniently dodged a question I asked you previously. I'll state it again: Let me see if I got this right. It is your belief that you will not be truly happy until -THE- revolution comes? Let me rephrase that: What makes you happy, Grok? People ask lots of leading questions, fella. This one's right up there, AFAIC. The problem I have with the kind of people who ask such questions is their generally unexamined assumption that they themselves have done quite alright by The System. Of course, they seldom ask themselves just what sort of system it is they are profiting from... I live for a future *communist* society, Jack. Mr. Beaty! Mr. Beaty. Groked called me a Fella, and... and... then he called me Jack! Make him STOP! Meanwhile, you have yet to answer my question, Grok: What makes you happy? So far, the only answer you seem to have offered up is that I have generally not examined the System that I have allegedly profited from. What does such analysis have to do with my original question? What does -my- alleged ignorance of the facts have to do with avoiding the simple question: What is -your- happiness? From what little you have offered up it would seem that you have pinned all your hopes (a definition of true happiness) towards the future - A brave new world when communist societies flourish world-wide. Is this a correct assumption on my part? This one's pretty shot. And has been for over 100 years. 150.000.000+ massacred human beings in the past century -- not to mention the enslavement of many more than that -- are testament enuff to that. It's sure nice to be one of the ones on the top of the heap, isn't it..? I think a salient question to ask here might be: If one is allegedly at the top of the heap, what are they going to do with their fortune. Silver spoon in the mouth or not, will they leave the world a better place than the one they were born into? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
Thomas sez: IMHO, Grok is living proof of what Michael Savage, host of the Savage Nation radio show, contends, liberalism is a mental disorder. He is also proof that leftists view everything through the lens of, economics being the root cause of everything. That's quite a bit of analysis there, Thomas. Pray tell, what have you pinned as the true root cause of everything? And what's your solution? His creative spelling is one manifestation of the leftist belief that they have a right to change the English language to fit their ends. Their most important end is usually the advancing of their political agenda. Again, what's your solution? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
- Original Message - From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity Thomas sez: IMHO, Grok is living proof of what Michael Savage, host of the Savage Nation radio show, contends, liberalism is a mental disorder. He is also proof that leftists view everything through the lens of, economics being the root cause of everything. I suppose it was a liberal that said Love of money is the root of all evil. Harry
Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
- Original Message From: Harry Veeder I suppose it was a liberal that said Love of money is the root of all evil. Harry, don't confuse the far right with biblical morality, or rationality. Once a mind is tainted with Limbo-Bimbo-speak, there is little hope
RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
I'm at a loss to figure what aspect of human nature would cause a person to write a response like the one you wrote here. -Original Message- From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:36 AM To: Jeff Fink Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net mounted the barricade and roared out: -Original Message- From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity Fact is, socialism is about Fairness AND Freedom -- because for one thing: being fair is all about being free. Think about it. I just got finished thinking about it. There is no freedom in socialism. So you claim to be a scientist or sumthin' huh..? Fancy that. No. I just claim to think. Freedom and equality are mutually exclusive concepts unless you limit the definition of equality to equal opportunity rather than equal result. Equal opportunity allows us the freedom to prosper from hard work or suffer the consequences of laziness. With real freedom, some people will get ahead of others. Some call this unfair. They want equality of result without the effort. They want the results of someone else's effort to flow into their pockets, and that is what I call wealth redistribution, and that is what I call unfair. This is real highschool stuff, Jeffie... I deal in concretes, eh? This is the kind of pap they feed you at the JayCees or the Young Republican club. Or you get every day off Fox Nooze. You claim to deal in concretes. I don't see any substance to your reply. Where's the beef? Too many people are riding on the wagon, leaving fewer and fewer to pull the wagon. Many of us in the harness, who are straining and sweating under the load, are beginning to look over our shoulder and see the huge crowd lounging and partying in the wagon, and they are saying, Why am I doing all this work. This is unfair. If we can't ride in the wagon perhaps we should at least have a tea party. Jeff I'll bet you've got a huge GUN collection, right..? You write as someone who does not own a gun, and I believe that we are all grateful to hear that. Jeff - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn5xUcACgkQXo3EtEYbt3GH1gCgzDvqVZ0SFgWD9Y2p6Sd9fg7n AYQAoLcwwtLb0Mngfvk+4TZUneuB4ICj =lj+P -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
So, the so called swine flu may just be spanish flu? the puerco flu? On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: An interactive article on the current outbreak of H1N1 and the virus' impact in 1918: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/interactive/2008/jan/03/flu And for the conspiricist minded: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sykes Exhumation for biological research In 2007, nearly 90 years after Sir Mark Sykes died, all the living descendants gave their permission to exhume his body for scientific investigation headed by virologist, Prof John Oxford. His remains were exhumed in mid-September 2008[3]. His remains were of interest because he had been buried in a lead-lined coffin, and this was thought likely to have preserved Spanish Flu viral particles intact. Any samples taken are to be used for research in the quest to develop defences against the next flu pandemic, which some scientists[who?] believe is likely to flare up at some stage in the future as a mutation of the bird flu virus named H5N1. The Spanish Flu virus itself became a human infection by a mutation of an avian virus nowadays called H1N1. There are only five other extant samples of the Spanish Flu virus. Prof Oxford's team were expecting to find a well preserved cadaver.[4] However, the lead lined coffin was found to be split because of the weight of soil over it, and the cadaver was found to be badly decomposed. Nonetheless, samples of lung and brain tissue were taken through the split in the coffin, with the coffin remaining in situ in the grave during this process.[5]Soon afterwards, the open grave was sealed again by refilling it with earth. You must admit, it would solve the unemployment problem. Terry
RE: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
how do you measure person's effort? by a person's income? Harry Effort is what is required to put an ability or talent to work. Except for the severely handicapped, we all have things we can do, whether it be picking berries out of someone's field or picking tumors out of someone's brain. The market place determines the value of a person's ability. We all seek to use our ability where it is valued the most. We want to make the most money for our effort. If farmer A is paying me $6.00 an hour to pick berries, and I hear that farmer B down the road is hiring for $6.50 per hour, I'm going to quit farmer A and hire on with farmer B, as long as I have the freedom to choose where I work. Can a migrant worker who is dissatisfied with $6.50 per hour become a brain surgeon? Only in America! I read about it in Reader's Digest. This is a first class example of equal opportunity, but it took tremendous effort to make this migrant worker's desire a reality, and so it should. If you are going under the knife, do you want this guy, or someone who got his degree the easy way? I have a friend Jozef from Slovakia back when it was Czechoslovakia. He was in med school intending to be a doctor. He ran afoul of the communist government on faith issues, was removed from med school and assigned to be an X-ray technician (no freedom of choice here). That may not sound too bad to some people on this forum, but what you don't know is that, at that time, eastern European facilities used no shielding: X-ray technician was a death sentence. (Isn't communism wonderful?) Soon after, he escaped to freedom in the US where he could be what he wanted. By the way, he immigrated legally. Jeff
RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
Harry, Take note of what you wrote here. Money is not the root of all evil. It is the LOVE of money that is the problem. Jeff -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hvee...@ncf.ca] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity - Original Message - From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity Thomas sez: IMHO, Grok is living proof of what Michael Savage, host of the Savage Nation radio show, contends, liberalism is a mental disorder. He is also proof that leftists view everything through the lens of, economics being the root cause of everything. I suppose it was a liberal that said Love of money is the root of all evil. Harry
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leaking pen wrote: So, the so called swine flu may just be spanish flu? the puerco flu? On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: An interactive article on the current outbreak of H1N1 and the virus' impact in 1918: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/interactive/2008/jan/03/flu And for the conspiricist minded: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sykes Hi All, Apparently the CIA has a long history with swine flu, having caused the destruction of 500,000 pigs in Cuba during the 1970's. I found it very interesting that President Obama stayed and ate with an archeologist, during his visit this month (4-09) to Mexico, who shortly thereafter died of pneumonia; his family later declared that he died of a heart attack. Was this another of the 635 Ways to Kill Castro? This swine flu thing has a good chance of kicking our economic recovery in the head; and not just Donald Rumsfeld's Tamiflu company benefits from it. What did the CIA do when the Taliban stopped opium production in Afghanistan? Points of reference are Michael Ruppert (Crossing the Rubicon) and Russ Baker (Family of Secrets). The kleptocrats are not going to give up without a hard fight. Jack Smith
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You gotta love this man Duncan. He has guts! You should see the video. His description of getting a call from High Priest of Physics is hysterical. Help me out with this he says. Ha! I love the last PowerPoint slide: Research funding needs to become less dependent on the common assumptions within the culture of scientific communities, and much more courageous and objective. The Scientific Method is a wonderful thing, use it always, no exceptions! I gather Pickens attended the conference. Maybe he was in the audience. We are trying to get permission to upload the lecture to YouTube. - Jed
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This is a breath of fresh air that can make an old cynic have faith that science is not completely dead. I don't think guts are involved. Duncan simply had to take the time to explore the data. Any rational person who does this comes to the same conclusion. We pay entirely too much attention to the skeptics who have no understanding of science even though they were educated in that subject. Ed On Apr 30, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: You gotta love this man Duncan. He has guts! You should see the video. His description of getting a call from High Priest of Physics is hysterical. Help me out with this he says. Ha! I love the last PowerPoint slide: Research funding needs to become less dependent on the common assumptions within the culture of scientific communities, and much more courageous and objective. The Scientific Method is a wonderful thing, use it always, no exceptions! I gather Pickens attended the conference. Maybe he was in the audience. We are trying to get permission to upload the lecture to YouTube. - Jed
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Edmund Storms wrote: This is a breath of fresh air that can make an old cynic have faith that science is not completely dead. Amen! I don't think guts are involved. I meant the part where he describes how upset the APS is with him, and the phone call from a highly prominent Ivy League prof who was really angry with me for having done the [60 Minutes] piece. Hilarious! Quote starting at 40:42 in the video: The point was, I laid out the scientific case [to the prof on the phone] but he flatly wouldn't consider it. And when I said, 'come on, why don't you just work with me here, through the data,' he said essentially, 'well, you know, us high caliber physicists have done that before, and there has never been anything there. So you charlatans just can go on and do whatever you like.' Okay. Well. It is interesting: my scientific reputation -- I guess, at least to him -- had been stronger before I did the piece. But now, the point is, real science, possibly with outstanding engineering consequences, suddenly becomes a pariah science. A science where no one can go . . . Wow! - Jed
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com mounted the barricade and roared out: This is a breath of fresh air that can make an old cynic have faith that science is not completely dead. I don't think guts are involved. Duncan simply had to take the time to explore the data. Any rational person who does this comes to the same conclusion. We pay entirely too much attention to the skeptics who have no understanding of science even though they were educated in that subject. After all: in this system, it's not so much 'what you know' as really 'who you blow'. Same goes for all politix -- and for my beloved scientific socialism... - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn6L64ACgkQXo3EtEYbt3HtDwCeN3/tt2DDDOrEc1A+iVDhnb6c 9UUAn1bKPLIo1sUlf2834bKp5F4VoxFs =P44J -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Edmund Storms wrote: This is a breath of fresh air that can make an old cynic have faith that science is not completely dead. Amen! I don't think guts are involved. I meant the part where he describes how upset the APS is with him, and the phone call from a highly prominent Ivy League prof who was really angry with me for having done the [60 Minutes] piece. Hilarious! Quote starting at 40:42 in the video: The point was, I laid out the scientific case [to the prof on the phone] but he flatly wouldn't consider it. And when I said, 'come on, why don't you just work with me here, through the data,' he said essentially, 'well, you know, us high caliber physicists have done that before, and there has never been anything there. So you charlatans just can go on and do whatever you like.' Okay. Well. It is interesting: my scientific reputation -- I guess, at least to him -- had been stronger before I did the piece. But now, the point is, real science, possibly with outstanding engineering consequences, suddenly becomes a pariah science. A science where no one can go . . . Wow! - Jed Something to be said for having a sense of timing. As opposed to being a(n often dead) hero. Frankly, I still prefer heroes -- the people who do it, regardless of timing -- because it's right, at any time. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn6MJsACgkQXo3EtEYbt3HcwQCcCPa6pBQ1xmrIRxNmX4X+m8rH IK0AnRwfUpg7vyvZjku0grZOL29MkjCB =esld -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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In a great display of wisdom our Canadian PM, Steven Harper, has called it the Mexican flu. Harry - Original Message - From: leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:36 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity So, the so called swine flu may just be spanish flu? the puerco flu?
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net mounted the barricade and roared out: I have a friend Jozef from Slovakia back when it was Czechoslovakia. He was in med school intending to be a doctor. He ran afoul of the communist government on faith issues, was removed from med school and assigned to be an X-ray technician (no freedom of choice here). That may not sound too bad to some people on this forum, but what you don't know is that, at that time, eastern European facilities used no shielding: X-ray technician was a death sentence. (Isn't communism wonderful?) Soon after, he escaped to freedom in the US where he could be what he wanted. First thing: this was not communism, or even socialism. It was what we call _stalinism_, for want of a better word. Second thing: I think your friend is a liar. By the way, he immigrated legally. Jeff What, like cuban boat people, or pro-U.S. terrorists? Pfft. FUCK bourgeois legality. I'd help a mexican sneak over the U.S. border ANY day. And twice on sundays. Having been an illegal alien myself, for that matter. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn6MqIACgkQXo3EtEYbt3GQ3ACgqBVSySa4uBjEBMxbQP2oJBZH Bo0AoJAZ3NN/pBgA3JdQhOf8N+VjPqyF =uEHB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Harry Veeder hvee...@ncf.ca mounted the barricade and roared out: In a great display of wisdom our Canadian PM, Steven Harper, has called it the Mexican flu. Harry I repudiate this necon/fascist thug and all he and his stand for. What's different from the `30s is that fascists don't have to worry about fighting the working-class these days. Until now, anyway. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn6O4EACgkQXo3EtEYbt3FqpACfXhg2mW4uj+V9ZN/nj+lcDY5f F2UAoNGCzsXXMVlTr6EDJGvL7M5rCJT1 =OCfe -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net mounted the barricade and roared out: Harry, Take note of what you wrote here. Money is not the root of all evil. It is the LOVE of money that is the problem. Jeff Money is essentially just a way to keep track of material things; to keep the relative magnitude of the concrete worth of these things in perspective, as to the resources required to produce them. Which is always changing, of course. Under socialist ekonomix of course, money will become increasingly irrelevant over time -- but not immediately so, mind you. And of course -- basic science will get all the resources its little heart desires, bless it. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn6QHcACgkQXo3EtEYbt3HqmQCg7/vq2qQkmdjrti3aRJaE5dgj u3EAoKY52R6s/MEGNSlBOBKbBPCmkAVm =Rhrv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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- Original Message - From: Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:46 pm Subject: RE: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity how do you measure person's effort? by a person's income? Harry Effort is what is required to put an ability or talent to work. Except for the severely handicapped, we all have things we can do, whether it be picking berries out of someone's field or picking tumors out of someone'sbrain. The market place determines the value of a person's ability. The ability to carry a financial burden seems to be the most valued ability these days. The ability to shoulder other kinds of burdens seems to be devalued. We all seek to use our ability where it is valued the most. We want to make the most money for our effort. If farmer A is paying me $6.00 an hour to pick berries, and I hear that farmer B down the road is hiring for $6.50 perhour, I'm going to quit farmer A and hire on with farmer B, as long as I have the freedom to choose where I work. Can a migrant worker who is dissatisfied with $6.50 per hour become a brain surgeon? Only in America! I read about it in Reader's Digest. This is a first class example of equal opportunity, but it took tremendouseffort to make this migrant worker's desire a reality, and so it should. If you are going under the knife, do you want this guy, or someone who got his degree the easy way? What is the easy way? I have a friend Jozef from Slovakia back when it was Czechoslovakia. He was in med school intending to be a doctor. He ran afoul of the communist government on faith issues, was removed from med school and assigned to be an X-ray technician (no freedom of choice here). That may not sound too bad to some people on this forum, but what you don't know is that, at that time, eastern European facilities used no shielding: X-ray technician was a death sentence. (Isn't communism wonderful?) Soon after, he escaped to freedomin the US where he could be what he wanted. By the way, he immigrated legally. So in your mind people will only make an effort when they are also working to meet a financial obligation. Harry
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net mounted the barricade and roared out: I think I figured it out... Grok is not a real person. Its a mediocre computer sci student's implementation of the Turing Test! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test Barely passing grade if you ask me. But it'd probably keep the shrinks busy for a few hours. ;-) -Mark Barely passed the Turing Test, huh? Does that mean my virtual knuckles are dragging along the Cyberspace as I simulate walking..? Nota Bene that these people always retreat into irrelevant ad hominem past a certain point. Really: I wonder just who'd come off looking like the human in a showdown between them and any real contender? My money is on Hal 9000. - --grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn6QxgACgkQXo3EtEYbt3GlHgCgkFHle2fVu8CiZqTvrqvT0kW1 LyQAnAmRw6c9w9gF+MJPpsoo8fKun7rf =SMiE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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- Original Message - From: Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:49 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity Harry, Take note of what you wrote here. Money is not the root of all evil. It is the LOVE of money that is the problem. Jeff And it is always the other person that loves money. ;-) Harry -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hvee...@ncf.ca] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity - Original Message - From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity Thomas sez: IMHO, Grok is living proof of what Michael Savage, host of the Savage Nation radio show, contends, liberalism is a mental disorder. He is also proof that leftists view everything through the lens of, economics being the root cause of everything. I suppose it was a liberal that said Love of money is the root of all evil. Harry
RE: RE: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
-Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hvee...@ncf.ca] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:27 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: RE: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity - Original Message - From: Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:46 pm Subject: RE: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity how do you measure person's effort? by a person's income? Harry Effort is what is required to put an ability or talent to work. Except for the severely handicapped, we all have things we can do, whether it be picking berries out of someone's field or picking tumors out of someone'sbrain. The market place determines the value of a person's ability. The ability to carry a financial burden seems to be the most valued ability these days. The ability to shoulder other kinds of burdens seems to be devalued. We all seek to use our ability where it is valued the most. We want to make the most money for our effort. If farmer A is paying me $6.00 an hour to pick berries, and I hear that farmer B down the road is hiring for $6.50 perhour, I'm going to quit farmer A and hire on with farmer B, as long as I have the freedom to choose where I work. Can a migrant worker who is dissatisfied with $6.50 per hour become a brain surgeon? Only in America! I read about it in Reader's Digest. This is a first class example of equal opportunity, but it took tremendouseffort to make this migrant worker's desire a reality, and so it should. If you are going under the knife, do you want this guy, or someone who got his degree the easy way? What is the easy way? Perhaps I should have said easier, like having parents who pay your way through school. I have a friend Jozef from Slovakia back when it was Czechoslovakia. He was in med school intending to be a doctor. He ran afoul of the communist government on faith issues, was removed from med school and assigned to be an X-ray technician (no freedom of choice here). That may not sound too bad to some people on this forum, but what you don't know is that, at that time, eastern European facilities used no shielding: X-ray technician was a death sentence. (Isn't communism wonderful?) Soon after, he escaped to freedomin the US where he could be what he wanted. By the way, he immigrated legally. So in your mind people will only make an effort when they are also working to meet a financial obligation. Harry Effort follows motivation. There are all kinds of motivations with financial perhaps being the most prevalent. Jeff
RE: RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
-Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hvee...@ncf.ca] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:38 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity - Original Message - From: Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:49 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity Harry, Take note of what you wrote here. Money is not the root of all evil. It is the LOVE of money that is the problem. Jeff And it is always the other person that loves money. ;-) Harry The money loving affliction is always difficult to self diagnose. Jeff
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net mounted the barricade and roared out: I'm at a loss to figure what aspect of human nature would cause a person to write a response like the one you wrote here. Something tells me you're not a trained sociologist, then... (grok sniggers) I'll bet you've got a huge GUN collection, right..? You write as someone who does not own a gun, and I believe that we are all grateful to hear that. Jeff Actually, I'm waiting for Hugo Chávez to deliver my brand new -- autographed -- AK-103. Any day now. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn6XuAACgkQXo3EtEYbt3FZ/gCfVz2rD0KIR9u0vpfy6C4LLMvP V8oAnA65N6Dio0hiTeEqfWh1xpQBk2Ii =MX3q -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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OrionWorks wrote: Thomas sez: IMHO, Grok is living proof of what Michael Savage, host of the Savage Nation radio show, contends, liberalism is a mental disorder. That's quite a bit of analysis there, Thomas. thank you. Pray tell, what have you pinned as the true root cause of everything? Sin And what's your solution? A Torah Observant theocratic monarchy. His creative spelling is one manifestation of the leftist belief I noted your comment on the 150,000,000 dead people Grok. Marxism and Fascism are opposite sides of the same totalitarian coin. Hitler conducted a sacrifice to his god, of followers of the G-d of Israel, 14,000,000 total. Stalin worshiped the image he saw in the mirror. The Oligarchy which put them both in power has pumped your head full of s__t. They have convinced you that more of what hasn't previously worked is just what the world needs. The return of the king is imminent, but not upon us. IOW, you still have time to repent, or you can burn. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
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Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message - From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity Thomas sez: IMHO, Grok is living proof of what Michael Savage, host of the Savage Nation radio show, contends, liberalism is a mental disorder. He is also proof that leftists view everything through the lens of, economics being the root cause of everything. I suppose it was a liberal that said Love of money is the root of all evil. What you say is true. If you take some of R Yeshua's quotes you can make him out to be a socialist. Jim Wallis of Sojourner's magazine is great hand to do that. If you ignore that Yeshua was Torah Observant, it's just amazing what you can justify using the red letters. BTW, I regard Wallis and his ilk as a wolves in sheep's clothing. My Rabbi and I agree that a wolf which as learned to take on the affectations of a sheep is the most dangerous animal in the woods. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net mounted the barricade and roared out: The return of the king is imminent, but not upon us. IOW, you still have time to repent, or you can burn. Which way to the ovens, O Angel of Death..? - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn6fmEACgkQXo3EtEYbt3G8xQCfXj6Y0bLxgS6wqkI2l9IwahXL AsQAoIR08U+IRa7quw3v+rFX1Aob+X39 =W/Gk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Two recent komments from Grok: What, like cuban boat people, or pro-U.S. terrorists? Pfft. FUCK bourgeois legality. I'd help a mexican sneak over the U.S. border ANY day. And twice on sundays. Having been an illegal alien myself, for that matter. Sounds to me like someone likes to fantasize themselves as a wannabe illegal, and a revolutionary. Isn't it exciting to think of oneself as being wanted? ...And then there's that other salient Grok komment: Actually, I'm waiting for Hugo Chávez to deliver my brand new -- autographed -- AK-103. Any day now. For references, see: http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models/ka126.html As a famous rock group once sang out: But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/the_beatles/revolution.html Let me rephrase that ol'Beatle's song: If you go around carrying AK-103s, while purporting to be a revolutionary You're increasing your chances of ending up incarcerated, or worse. Regardless of the legal ramifications of whether one can legally own an AK-103 - to simply say even in jest that you're waiting for a brand new AK-103 in a public forum like this, and particularly in the manner that you have done so, was IMO one of the worst cases of impulsive stupidity that I've witnessed in over 20 years. You think your Grok persona is that protected hiding under a rock of anonymity playing a wannabe revolutionary, letting everyone know that you're playing the role of a revolutionary? And now you're looking forward to owning an AK-103? Are you that stupid...Grok? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
