Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.
Bastiaan, you missed this: http://www.1888pressrelease.com/nanospire-inc-successfully-harnesses-cavitation-zero-point-pr-372884.html* * Andre * *On 02/23/2012 12:45 AM, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: What experiment? Am I missing something? On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:08 AM, francis froarty...@comcast.net mailto:froarty...@comcast.net wrote: If this experiment occurred in 2009 and resulted in radiation sickness and transmuted elements at only 840 watts in I have to ask why it is only becoming news now and why the news isn’t all over the front page.. what I am missing that makes this less than earth shattering news?
Re: [Vo]:New site for Cold Fusion Now
Andrea, This is not a new one. It has been around for a while, but on another URL ( http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/). In fact it is one of the better blogs, in the sense that it is not a copy machine of the news of the day, of which I agree many exist. Instead, Ruby often surprises with very high quality articles containing new viewpoints. Andre On 02/23/2012 03:24 AM, Andrea Selva wrote: we really needed a new one ! And another one for ecat? Come on guys! 2012/2/23 Ruby r...@hush.com mailto:r...@hush.com Cold Fusion Now has moved back home. Check out the new digs at our old address: http://coldfusionnow.org/ We have a web expert Wolfgang Knoerr from Berlin, Germany who has volunteered to join our effort, and we are real happy to have him. It will be almost two years that we have been writing letters, holding outreach events, learning about the subtleties of this intersection of science and drama, and there was alot to Import from the old Wordpress.com site. The new platform has alot of broken links, and none of the video embeds came through during the process. It will be a while till its all fixed, and it needs some tweaking, like making the links stand out more (you can hardly see them) but I think it's going to be way better in the end... What do you think? Any suggestions or comments would be much appreciated. Thanks, Ruby
Re: [Vo]:No faster than light neutrinos after all
I think that this is implausible, because American's did get the same result earlier in 2007, although it was not significant. Therefore same problem with connectors had to be also in that experiment. But indeed it is possible, that the same problem was overlooked in both experiments, but still I would wait more observations for confirmation. Especially Horace's suggestion for neutrino beam through the core of Earth should be performed. However, indeed this kind of unexpected problem is the most plausible explanation. It went somewhat hilarious when some scientists tried to prove this result using special theory of relativity. This tells something about how weak is the general understanding of special relativity, even for professional scientists. ―Jouni On 22 Feb 2012, at 23:27, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that it was the discrepancy was only due to a bad connection between gps receiver and computer. http://www.repubblica.it/scienze/2012/02/22/news/neutrini_pi_veloci_della_luce_c_era_anomalia_in_strumenti-30349960/ Giovanni
Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report
All electrical devices depend on the motion of electrons. These motions are fully described by Newton's and Maxwell's formulations. No over-unity is possible. Cold fusion, on the other hand, depends on the motion of free nucleons. Now we are dealing with the motion of the strong nuclear field. Its a new ball game, not well described by anyone, and free energy may be possible. What I did was apply Maxwells equations to moving carriers of the strong nuclear force and showed, at least in my mind, free energy was possible. What happens is a strong long range nuclear magnetic force is induced. My work on that area is now complete. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterf.html I am now doing what I consider to be my last experiment. I have a small copper tube, the kind that connect refrigerators to the water system and I am using it as a wave guide. In the tube I have placed a wire coated with Vaseline. In the Vaseline I have embedded micrometer meter sized nickel particles. The device is now soaking in hydrogen. After a week or so I will stimulate the device with sparks. I have a neon bulb connected to the end of the pipe to monitor the RF energy in the system. I will monitor the bulb and temperature of the device. I don't expect it to work because I have already built devices of similar design that did not work. That's were I am at, papers complete and last experiment in progress. Don't expect to hear much from me in the future. Frank Zndiarsic
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
Antigravity can 'only' have what might be considered an on-board application, and so, anyone who has either a vested-interest, or money, or great faith in it, simply doesn't know about the enormous potential of the yet undiscovered system, that can have no equal. While it does require a moving part spinning at a very high rate of Rpm's, it's the only way to generate the principle dynamic force that will enable an altogether powerfully new efficient form of 'independent' propulsion that will enable a like vehicle/craft to travel space in the extreme, to anywhere that may be at anytime (read it weep!). As I read of Jed and his predictions I wonder will his be bettor or worse. They had the right idea in 1912 but the wrong implementation. No one had a clue of the coming internet until it happened. Some see only tragedy. I see anti-gravity and cold fusion. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
This is what I said to NASA about 3 years ago. I also mentioned that the rotor they had gotten to spin at a sustained 60,000 Rpm's (1,000 Rps's) back in ' 2001 (?), was absolutely essential in-order to achieve the Independent State of Energy/Propusion in what I am convinced is the one system that will not enable us to travel space in the extreme, but as to how it is interpreted. It's a matter of powerfully energizing electromagnetic-force to compensate an equally powerful centrifugal or centripedal force, that will result in a whole new form of energy-field. I doing so, will essentially enable a whole complete variety of functions to be performed, without any physical contact... it's simply a matter of a million years or so, of some serious in-depth RD. Radio transmissions might be an ancient form of communications to an advanced civilization. It could be like us talking to each other with smoke signals. /HTML
[Vo]:Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz?
Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz? Older starters and bulbs emitted a lot of RF energy at about 1 mega-hertz. This signal is modulated at 60 HZ. I am interested because: These bulbs contain a heavy slow moving gas mercury and a light fast moving gas helium or other internet. The interaction between the fast and the slow nucleons resembles that between the dissolved deuterium/hydrogen and the metal lattice within cold fusion experiments. The low pressure in the bulbs extends the mean free path of the gas a bit. The product of the frequency and bulb length is one megahertz-meter. Any ideas about the buzzing, where it comes from, and how to enhance it??? Mike Carrol where are you, you would know?? Frank Znidarsic
RE: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report
/snip/ * There is the initial report showing the system ran 4000 watts for 100 hours that showed a well-thought out overunity test. It was a 3rd party test, paid for by the company. The report remains confidential, but it was impressive enough to get Sterling Allan on a plane. /snip/ We just don't have enough to go on yet. Sterling's FFG review is that the observed power output is supposedly well in excess of the total energy available at the input. Meaning, if the power is actually being consumed at the published rates, the demonstration would be over in less than 1/6 of the time shown. What I witnessed, along with three other scientists that I brought along -- all more qualified than myself -- was a 5 kW unit powered by four batteries, running for three hours continuous, driving a load of approximately 4 KW. According to the amp-hour rating of those batteries (102 Ah each), without being recharged from an external source, they should have lasted only 35 minutes before running down completely, no longer able to power the system. The load was roughly 4 kW, comprised of: - a two-burner stove, each burner consuming 1 kW (rated power according to manufacturer) - a toaster that consumed 850 Watts (rated power) - a pancake maker that consumes 1 kW (rated power) - A 40-Watt fan (rated power) http://pesn.com/2012/02/22/9602042_South_African_Fuel-Free_Generator_Preparing_for_Market/ In Sterling's article, these are all based upon published ratings, and not actual, continual measure. A great deal of assumptions could be false. Lets look just at the burners, for example: - two-burner stove, each burner consuming 1 kW (rated power according to manufacturer) Does this mean that the metal was built to withstand 1 kW, or consume 1kW during peak usage? If it is 1kW when turned all the way up, was it actually turned all the way up, or was any additional resistance in-line? Assuming the burners were each meant to consume 1kW, were they wired in series or parallel? It's counterintuitive, but in series, you would have doubled the curcuit resistance, halved the current, halved the voltage drop across each, and actually dropped circuit power consumption in half. In short, we do not even remotely have the necessary information to determine if the FFG is a simple trick, or something more. Like so much else, it's purely wait-and-see at this point.
RE: [Vo]:Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz?
Just a guess, There is a general arcing characteristic of Fluorescent ballasts. The wide frequency range emissions created by these arcs act much like lightning to an AM radio signal. As the spectrum is wide enough, but varying amplitude, any amplitude modulated signal would be likely effected, but a frequency modulated signal would be relatively immune. As radios are massively amplifying extremely low-level signals (often micro-volts/meter), it doesn't take much interference to make a big difference. Note, an FM radio is still sending alternating current to its speakers, in essence, amplitude-modulated intelligence with wide frequency variance. Any powered speaker (that is amplifying its input: e.g., a poorly-shielded line-level input) could expect interference as well. R.L. To: vortex-l@eskimo.com From: fznidar...@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:31:16 -0500 Subject: [Vo]:Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz? Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz? Older starters and bulbs emitted a lot of RF energy at about 1 mega-hertz. This signal is modulated at 60 HZ. I am interested because: These bulbs contain a heavy slow moving gas mercury and a light fast moving gas helium or other internet. The interaction between the fast and the slow nucleons resembles that between the dissolved deuterium/hydrogen and the metal lattice within cold fusion experiments. The low pressure in the bulbs extends the mean free path of the gas a bit. The product of the frequency and bulb length is one megahertz-meter. Any ideas about the buzzing, where it comes from, and how to enhance it??? Mike Carrol where are you, you would know?? Frank Znidarsic
Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report
Do you also disagree on how I describe the demonstration setup as being ridiculous, and not worth of drawing any positive conclusions from in the way Stirling Allen does? Andre, As I have previous stated, I am not an electrical engineer. As such it is not my place to pass judgment on your current technical analysis of the South African contraption. However, I noticed that a lot of your analysis is heavily layered with subjective conclusions that, quite frankly, have little to do with your technical analysis, such as your conclusion of Sterling's inability to discern when he is being used, in your words, as a prostitute. You strike me as being more interested in defending your original conclusions which regrettably includes a strong belief in that Sterling is not terribly bright. Well, maybe Sterling isn't the brightest bulb on the planet, but then maybe he has a few more watts than some of us might think. Frankly, I dunno. Be that as it may, in this particular situation I'm not interested in conclusions pertaining to speculation of the so-called personality faults of Sterling. I see enough of that kind of folly with Mr. Krivit and his attempt to analyze Rossi's quirky behavior. I will repeat once again: My primary concern is that we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I wait for more definitive tests to be performed, such as when Sterling presumably gets one of the contraptions in house where definitive testing can then be performed. You may recall that I have also previously stated that I have serious doubts as to whether any so called OU will be discovered. However, my current pessimism could turn out to be completely misplaced. It would be unwise of me to allow my pessimism to overrule what Nature may actually be trying to tell us. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to interest you, and that puzzles me. It's as if to show any more curiosity that what you have currently allowed yourself to indulge in could possibly contradict your current conclusion which seems to be based on a belief in Sterling is an idiot. Unless I have been missing a lot, this whole magnet motor thing does not have the scientific support or endorsements that LENR has, so I find it to be in a completely different league. I think you may have indeed missed a few things that go on in this list. Granted, LENR makes up a large part of what is discussed here, but LENR is not by any means the only topic of interest. The kind of magnetic related research that Sterling refers to has often been discussed extensively here. BTW, you continue to refer to this particular device as a magnet motor. That is an incorrect description. It also suggests to me that you haven't been following this particular topic extensively. I can certainly forgive you on that matter because there are many topics on this list that also I do not follow in great detail. I have only so many hours in a day. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:From a Casimir Newbie: Casimir Force vs. Newtonian Gravity
I've never delved into Casimir Force, but I have to say, it's really intriguing. As I understand the basic evidence of Casimir Force: experiments seem to verify that metal plates at extremely close distances in a vacuum preclude longer wavelengths of the aether-equivalent, creating a higher pressure outside the plates than between. I just have a few questions, and the Vortexians seem an excellent crew to ask: 1) Does the measured Casimir Force match with those predicted by the underlying theory with precision? Have any specific materials (esp. conductors/nonconductors) been discovered to be Casimir-outliers? 2) Does the force exercised upon the plates necessarily have to be an aether repulsion, in lieu of a plate attraction? It is known that precision-milled metals can bond together when brought into proximity in a vacuum. I'd always attributed this to broken crystalline structures being essentially unbalanced, and desiring chain completion, much like molecular bonds. For reference on the metal bonding, see cold welding as a quick reference:(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_welding) I ask, because it seems that, experimentally, in order to get the plates close enough without touching, the milling precision would be identical to, possibly far surpass, the level at which one would demonstrate cold welding. 3) With the presence of Casimir Force, how does one measure the effects of Newtonian Gravity at nano-scales? In consulting Occam, I would first ask the question as to whether this is just another incarnation or variance of gravity (another completely invisible force, with which we cannot contribute any of its characteristics to a detectable particle, but can only verify its existance through inferrence of evidence, and conformance to mathematical models) The immediate thought would be to alternate the same experiments with plates of different mass, but that gets rendered moot by practicality, as at those distances, the mass at the back of the plates is rendered virtually meaningless. Really, only the faces of each plate feel the largest attraction with rapid, exponential dropoff within nanometer(s)
Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report
The Vaseline only holds the nickel dust on the wire. If it melts, good, then I will have made some heat. I do not worry abut the Vaseline but a I do worry about the hydrogen. I do the experiments in a small plastic bottle to limit the amount hydrogen and shrapnel. I energize remotely (outside if possible) from a range of over 20ft. I am attempting to produce RF energy and heat. I do not even attempt high pressure experiments with my personal resources and facilities. Frank -Original Message- From: Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 11:24 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report Frank, Vaseline melts around 167 F. Aren't you going to end up with it running off the wire and puddling at the bottom of your tube along with a lump of Ni powder? Or are you going to try real cold fusion and keep it below 167 F? Petroleum jelly is a flammable, semi-solid mixture of hydrocarbons, having a melting-point usually ranging from a little below to a few degrees above 167°F (75°C) On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:29 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: All electrical devices depend on the motion of electrons. These motions are fully described by Newton's and Maxwell's formulations. No over-unity is possible. Cold fusion, on the other hand, depends on the motion of free nucleons. Now we are dealing with the motion of the strong nuclear field. Its a new ball game, not well described by anyone, and free energy may be possible. What I did was apply Maxwells equations to moving carriers of the strong nuclear force and showed, at least in my mind, free energy was possible. What happens is a strong long range nuclear magnetic force is induced. My work on that area is now complete. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterf.html I am now doing what I consider to be my last experiment. I have a small copper tube, the kind that connect refrigerators to the water system and I am using it as a wave guide. In the tube I have placed a wire coated with Vaseline. In the Vaseline I have embedded micrometer meter sized nickel particles. The device is now soaking in hydrogen. After a week or so I will stimulate the device with sparks. I have a neon bulb connected to the end of the pipe to monitor the RF energy in the system. I will monitor the bulb and temperature of the device. I don't expect it to work because I have already built devices of similar design that did not work. That's were I am at, papers complete and last experiment in progress. Don't expect to hear much from me in the future. Frank Zndiarsic
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
I am under the impression that the antigravity concept has been discussed in details on vortex before. Unfortunately, I was not privileged to be involved in that discussion so I have one concept that seems to be required for it to function. Assume that a mass of material is shielded by an antigravity system of some type. The same mass requires a certain amount of energy to raise it upward a meter without the system. My suspicion is that at least this amount of energy must be expended by the antigravity device if the same final mass displacement is achieved. The conservation of energy would require this to happen in my opinion. Has this issue been covered before in the collective? Dave -Original Message- From: LORENHEYER lorenhe...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 11:49 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens Antigravity can 'only' have what might be considered an on-board pplication, and so, anyone who has either a vested-interest, or money, or great aith n it, simply doesn't know about the enormous potential of the yet ndiscovered system, that can have no equal. While it does require a moving part pinning at a very high rate of Rpm's, it's the only way to generate the rinciple dynamic force that will enable an altogether powerfully new efficient orm of 'independent' propulsion that will enable a like vehicle/craft to ravel space in the extreme, to anywhere that may be at anytime (read it eep!). As I read of Jed and his predictions I wonder will his be bettor or orse. They had the right idea in 1912 but the wrong implementation. No one ad a clue of the coming internet until it happened. Some see only tragedy. see anti-gravity and cold fusion. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz?
Hi Frank, I suspect that the 60 hertz radio buzz is caused by the breaking of the instantaneous current through the vapor at phase reversals. This sharp waveform would be loaded with high frequency energy. I know for sure that HID bulbs have to be reignited on each current cycle reversal when regulated by a magnetic ballast. Dave -Original Message- From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 12:31 pm Subject: [Vo]:Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz? Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz? Older starters and bulbs emitted a lot of RF energy at about 1 mega-hertz. This signal is modulated at 60 HZ. I am interested because: These bulbs contain a heavy slow moving gas mercury and a light fast moving gas helium or other internet. The interaction between the fast and the slow nucleons resembles that between the dissolved deuterium/hydrogen and the metal lattice within cold fusion experiments. The low pressure in the bulbs extends the mean free path of the gas a bit. The product of the frequency and bulb length is one megahertz-meter. Any ideas about the buzzing, where it comes from, and how to enhance it??? Mike Carrol where are you, you would know?? Frank Znidarsic
Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report : Theory?
Summary : could be an LENR effect -- Lead+H or Tin+H -- Tin HAS been a component of some positive experiments. From: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:32:32 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report What I witnessed, along with three other scientists that I brought along -- all more qualified than myself -- was a 5 kW unit powered by four batteries, running for three hours continuous, driving a load of approximately 4 KW. According to the amp-hour rating of those batteries (102 Ah each), without being recharged from an external source, they should have lasted only 35 minutes before running down completely, no longer able to power the system. The load was roughly 4 kW, comprised of: - a two-burner stove, each burner consuming 1 kW (rated power according to manufacturer) - a toaster that consumed 850 Watts (rated power) - a pancake maker that consumes 1 kW (rated power) - A 40-Watt fan (rated power) http://pesn.com/2012/02/22/9602042_South_African_Fuel-Free_Generator_Preparing_for_Market/ Except for the fan, these are all resistive loads, and hard to fool. Note in the report that for the larger units they had an industrial resistor bank at hand as a load. AND http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg63222.html … but as we have mentioned here on vortex many times, if this battery shuttling technique, using back EMF, does work – and there is no firm proof that it does but lots of positive anecdotal evidence, then the reason it works is probably related to some from of LENR in the battery itself ! IOW - the battery, which is an electrochemical cell, not unlike the ones used in PF and most of LENR, is the active source of power. Lead-acid batteries seem to be particularly adaptable to the technique. NB: the sum of the first three electrons in the valence shell of the atom of Pb, has net ionization potential of 54.4 eV, which is the prime Rydberg value for the T-effect (Thermacore effect) which is seen in experiments going back to 1990, first patented by Thermacore. Jones - - - - - - - - - - Lets presume for the moment that the output is real. The effect occurs only in lead-acid batteries, during the discharge phase, at a time when the negative plate is mostly lead. (During this phase the other battery is recharged -- their roles are switched periodically) Discharge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93acid_battery#Discharge Negative plate reaction: Pb(s) + HSO− 4(aq) → PbSO4(s) + H+(aq) + 2e− Positive plate reaction: PbO2(s) + HSO− 4(aq) + 3H+(aq) + 2e− → PbSO4(s) + 2H2O(l) So hydrogen is intimately involved with both plates. This may be analogous to the classical LENR loading requirement. Secondly, a high-frequency FUTZ is applied to the discharging battery. Again, note the similarity to the various triggers required for LENR -- particularly voltage pulses. So at least TWO of the required LENR conditions are satisfied. So ... what are the candidate metals? a) Lead -- but I can't find any reports of Lead in LENR (except in the solder on the terminals). But if we look at : Plates http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93acid_battery#Plates Practical cells are usually not made with pure lead but have small amounts of antimony, tin, calcium or selenium alloyed in the plate material to add strength and simplify manufacture. b) Tin -- NOW we start to get some hits: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MenloveHOreproducib.pdf REPRODUCIBLE NEUTRON EMISSION MEASUREMENTS FROM Ti METAL IN PRESSURIZED D2 GAS H. O. Menlove, ... Los Alamos National Laboratory, Jones Brigham Young University During the past year, we have measured neutron emission from samples of titanium (Ti) metal and sponge in pressurized D2 gas. By measuring high-mass samples (300 g Ti) over several weeks, with many liquid nitrogen temperature cycles, we have detected neutron emission above the background from most of the samples with a significance level of 3 to 9 sigma ALL of the active samples contain some Ti662 (Ti, 6% Al, 6%V, and 2% Sn) Also see Geo-fusion and Cold Nucleosynthesis www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/JonesSEgeofusiona.pdf NEW PHYSICAL EFFECTS IN METAL DEUTERIDES http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Hagelsteinnewphysica.pdf Tin has also been mentioned as a possible surface contaminant on Pd. c) antimony calcium or selenium (I haven't searched these yet)
Re: [Vo]:Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz?
Thanks Dave and Bob. Nothing over unity about sharply breaking a circuit. I did some tests with a radio and some bulbs. I found more RF emission during the first 1 second that bulb is on, then it dies down. Over unity in other systems has been associated with an element of shock. Perhaps a florescent tube is something that we should work with. I am sure that enough people have worked with enough bulbs for a long enough time to have noticed any over unity associated with the bulbs plasma but then again, maybe they were not looking. Frank Z -Original Message- From: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 6:10 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz? Hi Frank, I suspect that the 60 hertz radio buzz is caused by the breaking of the instantaneous current through the vapor at phase reversals. This sharp waveform would be loaded with high frequency energy. I know for sure that HID bulbs have to be reignited on each current cycle reversal when regulated by a magnetic ballast. Dave -Original Message- From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 12:31 pm Subject: [Vo]:Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz? Why do florescent lights make the radio buzz? Older starters and bulbs emitted a lot of RF energy at about 1 mega-hertz. This signal is modulated at 60 HZ. I am interested because: These bulbs contain a heavy slow moving gas mercury and a light fast moving gas helium or other internet. The interaction between the fast and the slow nucleons resembles that between the dissolved deuterium/hydrogen and the metal lattice within cold fusion experiments. The low pressure in the bulbs extends the mean free path of the gas a bit. The product of the frequency and bulb length is one megahertz-meter. Any ideas about the buzzing, where it comes from, and how to enhance it??? Mike Carrol where are you, you would know?? Frank Znidarsic
Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report : Theory?
NEW PHYSICAL EFFECTS IN METAL DEUTERIDES http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Hagelsteinnewphysica.pdf Ti(662) In all cases in the recent Jones experiments, excess nuclear counts diminish with time, positive signals are observed greater than 50% of the time, and no excess nuclear counts are observed when H2 is substituted for D2.
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
Yes antigravity has been discussed. I went to the Marshall Spaceflight center and here is my report. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter3.html This was 12 years ago and nothing much has happened since. Frank Z This is what I said to NASA about 3 years ago. I also mentioned that the rotor they had gotten to spin at a sustained 60,000 Rpm's (1,000 Rps's) back in ' 2001 (?), was absolutely essential in-order to achieve the Independent State of Energy/Propusion in what I am convinced is the one system that will not enable us to travel space in the extreme, but as to how it is interpreted. -Original Message- From: LORENHEYER lorenhe...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 12:22 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens This is what I said to NASA about 3 years ago. I also mentioned that the rotor they had gotten to spin at a sustained 60,000 Rpm's (1,000 Rps's) back in ' 2001 (?), was absolutely essential in-order to achieve the Independent State of Energy/Propusion in what I am convinced is the one system that will not enable us to travel space in the extreme, but as to how it is interpreted. It's a matter of powerfully energizing electromagnetic-force to compensate an equally powerful centrifugal or centripedal force, that will result in a whole new form of energy-field. I doing so, will essentially enable a whole complete variety of functions to be performed, without any physical contact... it's simply a matter of a million years or so, of some serious in-depth RD. Radio transmissions might be an ancient form of communications to an advanced civilization. It could be like us talking to each other with smoke signals. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:From a Casimir Newbie: Casimir Force vs. Newtonian Gravity
In reply to Robert Leguillon's message of Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:29:59 -0600: Hi, [snip] I've never delved into Casimir Force, but I have to say, it's really intriguing. As I understand the basic evidence of Casimir Force: experiments seem to verify that metal plates at extremely close distances in a vacuum preclude longer wavelengths of the aether-equivalent, creating a higher pressure outside the plates than between. I just have a few questions, and the Vortexians seem an excellent crew to ask: 1) Does the measured Casimir Force match with those predicted by the underlying theory with precision? Have any specific materials (esp. conductors/nonconductors) been discovered to be Casimir-outliers? Last I read, it matches to within about 5%. Not sure what the experimental error was, but these measurements are rather difficult. 2) Does the force exercised upon the plates necessarily have to be an aether repulsion, in lieu of a plate attraction? How can one tell the difference? It is known that precision-milled metals can bond together when brought into proximity in a vacuum. I'd always attributed this to broken crystalline structures being essentially unbalanced, and desiring chain completion, much like molecular bonds. For reference on the metal bonding, see cold welding as a quick reference:(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_welding) I ask, because it seems that, experimentally, in order to get the plates close enough without touching, the milling precision would be identical to, possibly far surpass, the level at which one would demonstrate cold welding. How do you know that cold welding isn't due to Casimir force? 3) With the presence of Casimir Force, how does one measure the effects of Newtonian Gravity at nano-scales? If you are talking about Newtonian gravity between the two plates, then this goes as the square of the distance *between centers of mass*, whereas the Casimir force goes as the 4th power of the distance between the plates. Furthermore, the Casimir force should be independent of the mass of the plates. In consulting Occam, I would first ask the question as to whether this is just another incarnation or variance of gravity (another completely invisible force, with which we cannot contribute any of its characteristics to a detectable particle, but can only verify its existance through inferrence of evidence, and conformance to mathematical models) The immediate thought would be to alternate the same experiments with plates of different mass, but that gets rendered moot by practicality, as at those distances, the mass at the back of the plates is rendered virtually meaningless. Really, only the faces of each plate feel the largest attraction with rapid, exponential dropoff within nanometer(s) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report : Theory?
- Original Message - Summary : could be an LENR effect -- Lead+H a) Lead -- but I can't find any reports of Lead in LENR (except in the solder on the terminals). Turns out Lead-Hydrogen is ... interesting : http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0378436381908883 Localized modes of oscillation in hydrogen and deuterium doped lead * B.W. Nedrud∗, D.M. Ginsberg * a Department of Physics and Materials Research Laboratory 1110 West Green Street USA * b University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Urbana, IL 61801 USA We have measured the tunneling characteristics of quench-condensed films of pure Pb, hydrogen-doped Pb, and deuterium- doped Pb. We have determined phonon spectra to fit the electronic densities of states calculated from our data. The phonon spectra for Pb/H and Pb/D exhibit additional phonon peaks which we associate with a localized mode (or modes) of the impurity. The magnitudes of the peaks indicate that this mode is strongly coupled to the electronic system. - - - - - - - http://www.mendeley.com/research/isotopic-exchange-between-hydrogen-deuterium-process-permeating-through-li017pb083/ Fusion Engineering and Design (2010) Volume: 85, Issue: 7-9, Pages: 1225-1228 The permeation process of hydrogen isotopes through Li0.17Pb0.83 has been investigated experimentally. We obtained the overall D permeation rates that take into consideration of the effects of the H-D isotopic exchange reaction on the surface and diffusion in the Li-Pb layer. It was proved that the rate-determining step was not the surface reaction but the diffusion in the Li-Pb bulk.
RE: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report : Theory?
-Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher Summary : could be an LENR effect -- Lead+H or Tin+H -- Tin HAS been a component of some positive experiments. Yes, Alan it does looks like a LENR effect, and a significant anomaly but not novel as they admit the Bedini influence - and sadly it is one that does not have positive economic value. They admit that the limit of usefulness for the system is now a few weeks. Let's say they can get that up to 1000 hours before battery failure (and do it before shipping prototypes next month, which is doubtful). Well, on the one hand it indicates an impressive energy anomaly, pointing towards LENR - but then again, they have consumed about $ 500 worth of batteries to produce about $400 worth of electricity. They need to team up with a University first - to document the gain and then get a top flight engineering firm involved to see if the lifetime of batteries can be increased by a large factor. Otherwise - like the Bedini battery swapping technique which they have copied - this is going nowhere commercially. Jones
RE: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
Considering the never-ending conundrum of whether we are alone I came up with the following 500 word short story. I submitted it to a local science fiction community for a writing contest. While the story didn't win any prizes it was one of the finalists. I suspect Stephen Hawking might find aspects amusing... or not. ;-) Enjoy! __ THE SOURCE Were we alone? Surely that wasn't the case. But no one had ever answered our calls. When we finally mastered interstellar space travel we felt it was time to find out if that was truly the case. We soon discovered life existed outside the nurturing confines of our home system. Not only that, life was sprinkled everywhere, generously so. Then came the surprise. DNA, appeared to be the only blueprint used to build life throughout the universe. Even more astonishing was the fact that DNA samples taken from all our travels revealed that life seemed to have originated from a singular genetic source, origins unknown, including our own. Externally, life everywhere looked different, but underneath tissue, hide, hair, scales, and feathers, we were all related. How could evolution throughout the galaxy have spawned such incredible genetic uniformity? We obviously don't know how evolution really works; that's how we consoled ourselves. We eventually discovered advanced civilizations, some having even achieved space travel. They could have visited us long ago had they chosen to travel our way. Why hadn't they visited us? Clearly they must have been aware of our presence, our radio broadcasts. We had to know. We chose a candidate; a civilization we had repeatedly transmitted greetings to in the past. We dispatched our finest emissary ship and entered their solar system as non-threateningly as we could, all the while continuously broadcasting our peaceful intentions. We settled our ship as delicately as we could, close to a metropolis, next to what appeared to be a hastily gathered assemblage of officials - witnesses to the historic event. The ship's hatch opened. Dignitaries and ambassadors filed out one-by-one. Our greeters shuffled nervously, all the while remaining quiet. Eventually we broke the silence. We extended warm greetings, wishing them peace and prosperity. Finally, we asked them Why haven't you answered our calls? We wish you no harm. Leave, immediately! was their answer. It was too late for us, they added. They demanded we cease all further communication, especially anything that could give away their position. And then they scurried back to the safety of their city, leaving us standing alone. We raced home, entering our system just in time to witness the armada assembling. Like a swarm of hungry hornets, black needles kilometers in length fired deadly energy beams that screamed through our home world's atmosphere, slicing through continents and oceans as if cutting through soft butter. The tiniest bacterium to the largest leviathans in our oceans, everything was sucked into vast geostationary interstellar refineries parked above. Molecular structures evolved over eons were unraveled, then recombined into new matrices more suitable to the nutritional requirements of an unknown consumer. After the armada's storage facilities were filled they sterilized our ravaged planet with bursts of deadly gamma radiation. The surface was then reseeded with a single bacterium possessing a unique genetic strain, a hauntingly familiar source. And then they left, content to let evolution once again grow to fruition. We discovered we were alone. __ C 2012 Steven Vincent Johnson Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Test day in Greece time
I thought I'd bring the discussion back on topic a little bit. Not too long before the testing starts. It is now the day of the test and if the Hyperion performs as claimed, it is the moment society has needed for a long time. We probably won't get very good results at least for a few days, but hopefully we get positive news very soon.
Re: [Vo]:From a Casimir Newbie: Casimir Force vs. Newtonian Gravity
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Robert Leguillon's message of Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:29:59 -0600: Hi, [snip] I've never delved into Casimir Force, but I have to say, it's really intriguing. As I understand the basic evidence of Casimir Force: experiments seem to verify that metal plates at extremely close distances in a vacuum preclude longer wavelengths of the aether-equivalent, creating a higher pressure outside the plates than between. I just have a few questions, and the Vortexians seem an excellent crew to ask: 1) Does the measured Casimir Force match with those predicted by the underlying theory with precision? Have any specific materials (esp. conductors/nonconductors) been discovered to be Casimir-outliers? Last I read, it matches to within about 5%. Not sure what the experimental error was, but these measurements are rather difficult. 2) Does the force exercised upon the plates necessarily have to be an aether repulsion, in lieu of a plate attraction? How can one tell the difference? I would expect that detecting the casimir force is a process of elimination. The total force is measured first and then the predicted contribution from the gravitational component is subtracted. Harry
