RE: [Vo]:Those EMP weapons (and your cellphone) could actually be doing more personal harm than previously thought

2012-12-11 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
We were using an Agilent N5230A for all our testing: http://www.home.agilent.com/en/pd-415192/4-port-pna-l-series Key Features Specifications - Integrated 4-port, balanced measurements - 103 dB dynamic range and 0.004 dB trace noise - 4.5 usec/point measurement speed, 32 channels,

Re: [Vo]:Energy Stored Within MFMP Celani Cell

2012-12-11 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-12-11 05:02, David Roberson wrote: I am seeking a bit of feedback from the Vortex crowd. For more feedback, next time try writing a new thread (by writing a new post to the mailing list at vortex-l@eskimo.com with the write function or its equivalent in your email client) instead of

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread 7323fu...@gmail.com
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:42:40 -0800 At 08:36 AM 12/10/2012, chan.fusion.po...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: http://papp.scienceontheweb.net/Forming.html www.free-energy-info.co.uk/P2.pdf BTW Trying to pass off LENR as

Re: [Vo]:Energy Stored Within MFMP Celani Cell

2012-12-11 Thread David Roberson
Thanks for the advice Akira. I have typically been using a response to another vortex email as a template. I changed the subject and was unaware that this would not work. It seems strange that this occurs, but now I understand. Dave -Original Message- From: Akira Shirakawa

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
I gather “chan.fusion” is accusing Mr. Rothwell of using the lenr-canr website specifically for the purposes of a tax dodge. Oh, give me a tax break! I think not. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: I gather “chan.fusion” is accusing Mr. Rothwell of using the lenr-canr website specifically for the purposes of a tax dodge. I missed that. This would be the world's worst tax dodge, since it costs me a lot more than I can reduce in

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread James Bowery
One can read these optimistic noises with only a day to go as implying that they are delaying any public demonstration of their engine until January's CES show in Vegas. It all hinges on the meaning of the phrase the show as binding to the temporal context of the PowerGen show -- or binding to

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From James: One can read these optimistic noises with only a day to go as implying that they are delaying any public demonstration of their engine until January's CES show in Vegas. It all hinges on the meaning of the phrase the show as binding to the temporal context of the PowerGen show --

[Vo]:Re: PowerGen Plennary Session Is Being Broadcast Live

2012-12-11 Thread James Bowery
Erratum: That was the Opening Keynote Session. It is now over. The PGI Plenary Session will be Thursday at 9am. The exhibit floor just opened but there is no live stream from there AFAIK. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:41 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread James Bowery
Actually, if one reads the entire tome JR posted at http://inteligentry.com/report.html there are a couple of contingencies that must be met before demonstrations either live or via video: 1) There is the matter of pending patents which sets some sort of contingency that may block demonstration.

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:44 AM 12/11/2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: I gather “chan.fusion” is accusing Mr. Rothwell of using the lenr-canr website specifically for the purposes of a tax dodge. Oh, give me a tax break! I think not. Yeah. I would assume that Jed is using another approach. That is

Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-11 Thread Ron Wormus
Vorts, Flocking seems to be a bottom up emergent property of lots of natural systems that can be modeled using complexity theory. It's been awhile since I read it but I belive it's covered in: At home in the Universe by Stuart Kauffman. A really interesting book by the way. A quick search

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Just to be clear on something I recently opined. It’s one thing to express a personal opinion of extreme doubt and suspicion, as I have recently done. It’s quite another thing to assume one’s personal opinion is the correct one that other’s should emulate. If there is the slightest chance that

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:54 AM 12/11/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.comsvj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: I gather chan.fusion is accusing Mr. Rothwell of using the lenr-canr website specifically for the purposes of a tax dodge. I missed that. This would be the

[Vo]:New Energy Paradigm Shift 2012 Art Show

2012-12-11 Thread Ruby
Enjoy the ten artists who responded to the call for new energy inspired work. Your feedback will help determine the show prizes given on Dec 22. http://coldfusionnow.org/gallery/shift-2012-gallery/ Enjoy! -- Ruby Carat r...@coldfusionnow.org mailto:r...@coldfusionnow.org United States

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Inteligentry announced this Popper kit, earlier this year, with a huge fanfare, to allow people to test the technology. Great idea, really. What happened? http://www.plasmerg.com/kits.html Currently, the page says that the original kit is not available. Not to worry, it is being replaced with

[Vo]:Blacklight...

2012-12-11 Thread Craig
Mills: We will announce some substantial developments at some point. Craig Original Message Subject:Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] End of Year Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:07:46 -0500 From: Randell Mills rmi...@blacklightpower.com Reply-To:

Re: [Vo]:Blacklight...

2012-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: Mills: We will announce some substantial developments at some point. How informative! Things would be so different, if they were not as they are. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:New Energy Paradigm Shift 2012 Art Show

2012-12-11 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Ruby, Thank You for this. The range of contributions, depending on one's point of view, goes from the sublime to the almost ridiculous - but one work clearly stands out for me (but an art critic I am not). It stands out the sense of actively adding surprising insight through art.

Re: [Vo]:Blacklight...

2012-12-11 Thread Alain Sepeda
Hi, I hijack a little that thread to ask you all, what are your various opinion on their claimed technology of LENR to electricity direct conversion (CIHT). I don't see any other paper or lab results that are similar. Anomalous heat, transmutation, and radiations are quite validated , but device

Re: [Vo]:Blacklight...

2012-12-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:03:10 +0100: Hi, IMO, Mills is not LENR. It is what he says it is. Hydrinos. However I suspect that most of LENR is mediated by Hydrinos too ;) Hi, I hijack a little that thread to ask you all, what are your various opinion on their

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Yeah. I would assume that Jed is using another approach. That is a charitable activity. It is definitely *not* a profit-making business. Actually, LENR-CANR.org has no legal existence at all. It is informal. However, I get some money from the

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Cy Cle
Answer at bottom:James Bowery Wrote on Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:07:00 -0800On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Cy Cle c...@inbox.lv wrote: No working Papp engine will be displayed or videos shown. It has not been replicated as yet. Rohner brothers do not understood the mechanisms of Papp's engine.

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread James Bowery
This guy checked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHn5gTtLGkc the technology cited at: http://www.oocities.org/waterfuel111/water_explosion_menu.html which was cited by: http://papp.scienceontheweb.net/Forming.html item 12 He apparently didn't want to release his technology because it would

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:42 PM 12/11/2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Just to be clear on something I recently opined. It’s one thing to express a personal opinion of extreme doubt and suspicion, as I have recently done. It’s quite another thing to assume one’s personal opinion is the correct one

RE: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Abd: ... What we have is Sterling Allen, who cut John Rohner a lot of slack. And who is now about as negative as I can imagine him getting. http://pesn.com/2012/12/10/9602241_Inteligentry_Egg-on-Face_PowerGen/

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: They could say so. But what they actually do is to claim that they have something already. They actually did have Popper kits. The question is whether or not they worked, that is, sure, they might pop. the piston

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread 7323fu...@gmail.com
FYI: See: http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659page=56 Copy below: Today, 12:26 AM Post: #1120 Chan Offline Junior Member ** Posts: 20 Joined: Sep 2012 Reputation: 0 Warning Level: 0% RE: Let's build A Popper Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine. Russ, Papp dissociates