See:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/01/report-defkalion-gt-and-moses-ltd-forming-joint-venture/
Gimme a break:
Defkalion state that they are now ready to enter the market, however they
say “this process will not be immediate but will take several years , as it
will allow time for the big players in the energy distribution change their
assets and strategies in a non-traumatic in a synergistic
It seems they will cooperate to incorporate their technology with their
customers instead of releasing their reactors directly to retail.
2013/1/18 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
See:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/01/report-defkalion-gt-and-moses-ltd-forming-joint-venture/
--
If their 'market' is 'licensee market' their announcement is probably
correct.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems they will cooperate to incorporate their technology with their
customers instead of releasing their reactors directly to retail.
on point is also that Defkalion is selling the technology, but depend on
joint-venture like Defkalion Europe and licensee to develop application,
then try to obtain certification, then to get into the market.
It is like IBM selling the technology of the yet smaller transistor to a
silicon
METHOD FOR PRODUCING ENERGY AND APPARATUS THEREFOR
EP2368252B1 - Jan 16, 2013
www.22passi.it/downloads/EP2368252B1[1].pdf
MOSE S.R.L. appears to be a brand new company so this annoucement
doesn't do anything to enhance the credibility of Defkalion's claims.
see
http://www.mose-energy.com/
harry
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
See:
Are Nuclear Reactions Causing Boeing Dreamliner Battery Fires?
Jan. 17, 2013 By Steven B. Krivit
Boeings new 787 Dreamliners use high-capacity lithium-ion batteries.
These batteries have materials similar to those used in the most common
type of low-energy nuclear reaction experiment. Boeing
#11 Robert Greenyer 2013-01-18 14:25
@All
The EU cell had to be taken off line at short notice to be taken to a
big european consortium for preliminary discussion about it. If they
are not time wasters, we will ask them to sign an MFMP Full Disclosure
Agreement (FDA) as soon as
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
If they
are not time wasters, we will ask them to sign an MFMP Full Disclosure
Agreement (FDA) as soon as possible.
That sounds like the opposite of a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA). I
approve!
- Jed
More like airplane engine builders!
2013/1/18 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
on point is also that Defkalion is selling the technology, but depend on
joint-venture like Defkalion Europe and licensee to develop application,
then try to obtain certification, then to get into the market.
I was thinking of a system that appears to take thermal energy and convert it
into mechanical energy in a useful manner. The net effect is that the system
cools down in response.
Suppose that a group of hot heads lives within a world that is at a very high
temperature, so hot in fact that
I've wondered about such systems for sometime, those that convert one form of
energy to another.
Suppose someone had a vessel capable of being pressurized in which water was
electrolyzed. While electrolysis isn't that efficient, nevertheless, are the
pressurized gases therefrom a sort of
Entropic Quantum heat pump, like a rainbow
Stewart
Darkmattersalot.com
On Friday, January 18, 2013, Chris Zell wrote:
I've wondered about such systems for sometime, those that convert one
form of energy to another.
Suppose someone had a vessel capable of being pressurized in which water
In this case you are inputting electrical energy to obtain the gasses. Heat
will be added overall to the system as a result and it will become warmer. If
you find a way to drive the electrolysis by converting the heat energy of the
system into electricity then your concept would be similar to
Who is this big European consortium? All suggestions are open here .
My guess is Siemens. Why?
1. Because they stopped all their investments in Green power technology
(Wind, Solar, .). If LENR becomes a commercial reality, all the business
with Green Technology will be obsolete in the
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:25:13 -0500 (EST):
Hi,
[snip]
In this case you are inputting electrical energy to obtain the gasses. Heat
will be added overall to the system as a result and it will become warmer. If
you find a way to drive the electrolysis by
Robin, does this result in cooling as the heat is converted? If so, does it
not break one of the laws?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Does This System Beat Laws of
Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be wrote:
My guess is Siemens. Why?
1. Because they stopped all their investments in Green power
technology (Wind, Solar, …). If LENR becomes a commercial reality, all the
business with “Green Technology” will be obsolete in the second after.
When there is one equation and you substitute another equation into one of its
variables, the solution is a set of numbers that includes the conditions of
both equations. It is a simultaneous solution.
Were there is a squared term in one equation and another equation is
substituted in for
by definition, wouldnt it be both terms of the square? or am i
misunderstanding the question?
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
When there is one equation and you substitute another equation into one
of its variables, the solution is a set of numbers that includes
the
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:10:12 -0500 (EST):
Hi,
[snip]
I was thinking of a system that appears to take thermal energy and convert it
into mechanical energy in a useful manner. The net effect is that the system
cools down in response.
Suppose that a group of
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:09:49 -0500 (EST):
Hi,
[snip]
Robin, does this result in cooling as the heat is converted? If so, does it
not break one of the laws?
Yes it does result in cooling. As the electrolyte gets colder, the electrolysis
slows even further
I often agree with you to a very large number of topics. But here, I'm not.
Once the LENR is commercially available, the energy prices will decline
slowly but steadily. The wind turbines and solar (heat, or photovoltaic
cell) require a huge amount of capital per kW/h produced. Thus, the
January 17th, 2013 at 10:36 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=776cpage=2#comment-565344
Dear tomconover:
I did not read the report, yet, because it has not been published
yet. By the way, the Third Party members returned this week to make
more tests to clear some points that
Robin, you are right, I was afraid that I would break that nasty thermodynamic
law and become confined within a black hole.
I was actually hoping that the solar cell argument would help me understand why
the heat engine limitations exist. Now, I am a bit confused. It is just too
easy to
Why have a law if it can not be broken? We have laws against stealing because
people actually steal. Maybe we don't need any stinking laws of thermodynamics
since no one can break them.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent:
If they actually returned to perform more tests then it most likely is a good
sign. Had the ECAT been a total failure, it is unlikely that they would bother
to recheck it.
I have my fingers crossed.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
Does it
have a name?
The original equation is called a quadratic equation and has certain solutions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_equation
Maybe this helps?
As far back as 2005, we were suggesting here on vortex that the high failure
rate of Lithium batteries could have a LENR connection
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg09241.html
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
Are Nuclear Reactions Causing Boeing
Dave, you're nothing but a heretic.
. WELCOME to the Collective! J
-Mark
From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Does This System Beat Laws of Thermodynamics?
Robin, you
Maybe the higher radiation environment at high altitude facilitates LENR.
Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:02 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Interesting speculative
You are reminding me of an idea I had long ago.
Take 2 hot radiating objects.
Place then in a perfect thermal insulating container (for fun).
Now I have heard that a magnet can rotate the plane of polarization of
photons.
The second fact this is based on is that if you have 2 polarized lenses
Possibly.
Maybe too, virbration and/or thermal cycling play roles
- even if the problem is eventually found to be purely chemical.
-- Lou Pagnucco
Hoyt Stearns wrote:
Maybe the higher radiation environment at high altitude facilitates LENR.
Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US
Excellent point, Hoyt.
There is solid evidence that a small amount of radiation stimulates LERN by
a factor of thousands of times more than its own energy content. This
relates to quantum correlation fields.
-Original Message-
From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Maybe the higher radiation
Thanks. ...so if Boeing does all their battery testing on the ground, they'd
miss it.
Hoyt
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:08 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Interesting speculative theory from Krivit on
Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net wrote:
Maybe the higher radiation environment at high altitude facilitates LENR.
If that were the case, I think they would have discovered it during flight
tests. There are now 50 Dreamliners in service. I believe there were two
used in testing before
Interesting idea, but I also am not aware that a magnetic field will cause
significant optical rotation. Maybe someone in the vortex is familiar with
this issue to offer guidance. Your suggestion reminds me of a circulator used
in microwave products, less the lenses of course. It can guide
From Wikipdia:
In the presence of magnetic
fieldshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field,
all molecules have optical activity. A magnetic field aligned in the
direction of light propagating through a material will cause the rotation
of the plane of linear polarization. This Faraday
Thanks I was a great help.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Math question
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
Does it
have a name?
The original
Was that really a serious amount of testing before deployment?
- especially for an effect that is so transient (and disbelieved)?
After all, Krivit asserts that all the elements for LENR events are there.
Is he wrong?
If so, how?
Jed Rothwell wrote:
If that were the case, I think they would
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