Re: [Vo]:Lyndon Larouche found at Before its News as Todays news.

2013-02-04 Thread Harvey Norris
Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ --- On Sun, 2/3/13, Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: From: Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Lyndon Larouche found at Before its News as Todays news. To: vortex-l

[Vo]: MFMP AFC Heat Pump

2013-02-04 Thread David Roberson
The MFMP guys have a new air flow calorimeter that is being calibrated which they are going to use to verify excess power generated by the Celani cells under test. This device is most interesting and everyone hopes that it will be capable of capturing whatever heat is released during the

[Vo]:Shale Cost vs Alternative

2013-02-04 Thread Chris Zell
Shale oil/gas projections have come under fire because such fracking projects frequently have a short life span relative to past 'easy oil'. This may mean that while such a resource is abundant - and seems to be growing as reserves appear from week to week - they may be expensive. So, we

Re: [Vo]:The hydrogen s-orbital and the problem of muonic hydrogen

2013-02-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:16:51 -0800: Hi, [snip] Oh wait a minute, if the electron is inside the proton, doesn’t the whole structure look like a neutron, ie it won’t see a coulomb barrier and can fuse with another hydrogen at will ? See Horace Heffner's Deflation

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker wrote: If the mass of an orbiting satellite is sufficient to deflect the incoming asteroid, I doubt the asteroid is big enough to do much upon impact. If the asteroid is big enough to do much, I doubt the mass of a satellite would deflect it even by a small amount. I agree. Bear

Re: [Vo]:100% conversion of heat to electricity with thermophotovoltaics

2013-02-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:14:17 -0800: Hi Jones, [snip] In the end - if you want to find a practical and gainful heat-to-electricity device close to ambient, then provide the virtual sink well below ambient. That may be difficult, but Dirac permits it – and I

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:02:45 -0500: Hi, [snip] Eric Walker wrote: If the mass of an orbiting satellite is sufficient to deflect the incoming asteroid, I doubt the asteroid is big enough to do much upon impact. If the asteroid is big enough to do much, I

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: This one is not as wide as it is long, so I estimate the mass at about 7 tons. So it is about the same as a 1.5 ton car whacking into 20 g songbird. Not likely to deflect the path much. But even a tiny effect will change the orbit significantly over time. That

Re: [Vo]:OT - Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread Chuck Sites
I'm probably going to make a few enemies, but the deniers of global warming (skeptic is too kind, Contrarian is more like it) really need to head over to NOAA.gov or Climate.gov and see what all of many different satellite data are showing. First, let's answer Craig's comments about not knowing

Re: [Vo]:100% conversion of heat to electricity with thermophotovoltaics

2013-02-04 Thread John Berry
Ok, I think there is something that David and I myself are unclear on... Let's say you take IR radiation, so what is that? A high frequency EM wave in the Teraherz range, if you have a nano antenna and diodes suited it could maybe be rectified directly to usable power, since this can be done

RE: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread Jones Beene
The unspoken assumption is that the asteroid is composed of normal matter - and if so, then it would take substantial mass to deflect it. What would be the effect of an asteroid composed of other kinds of matter - such as mirror matter in our solar system, and was there a precedent for that

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread John Berry
Interesting. I had not heard of mirror matter before, Definite shares of a certain Star Trek episode. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The unspoken assumption is that the asteroid is composed of normal matter – and if so, then it would take substantial

[Vo]:OT Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread Chris Zell
http://www.businessinsider.com/americans-live-on-the-edge-of-financial-ruin-cfed-report-2013-2 The above provides the latest evidence that the US economy is hanging by threads. Much the same goes for Europe and Japan. About half of US households cannot weather any financial emergency nor

Re: [Vo]:OT Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread Alexander Hollins
Falling technology to lower levels due to slow degredation, and burning (literally) of our infrastructure won't end up being more greenhouse gases? On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote: **

Re: [Vo]:OT Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote: I see little need for strident warnings when a coming failed global economy will reduce emissions dramatically . . . That does not follow at all! Per capita emissions are much higher in Mexico and China than they are in the U.S. and Japan. Poverty

RE: [Vo]:OT Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread Chris Zell
Rich nations can afford. No, they can't. That's the point. Their populations are suffering and it's going to get much worse. Nor do developing nations operate in a vacuum as markets are now more tightly correlated than ever, contrary to many predictions. Virtuous cycle? That would be

Re: [Vo]:OT Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Per capita emissions are much higher in Mexico and China than they are in the U.S. and Japan. Poverty causes pollution. Rich nations can afford things like nuclear power, wind power, electric lighting and modern hybrid automobiles. To be a little more concrete, look at the recent

Re: [Vo]:OT Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote: ** Rich nations can afford. No, they can't. That's the point. Their populations are suffering and it's going to get much worse. If we would start to address the problems we will grow richer, not poorer. In the past when we built the

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread David Roberson
I have been wondering about another possible situation with regard to the near miss. What are the chances that gravitational gradient from the Earth might break this asteroid into many smaller pieces that then might cause havoc in small chunks. Remember the large comet that impacted Jupiter.

[Vo]:Observational Evidence for Two Cosmological Predictions Made by Bit-String Physics

2013-02-04 Thread James Bowery
Observational Evidence for Two Cosmological Predictions Made by Bit-String Physics H. Pierre Noyes Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94309 Abstract A decade ago bit-string physics predicted that the baryon/photon ratio at the time of nucleogenesis η = 1/256^4

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: …there are some who think that the Tunguska event was a comet or asteroid composed of another kind of matter. If this is something like anti-matter and it whacks into a satellite, I assume that would cause a large explosion. Wouldn't it? I doubt the

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread ChemE Stewart
Dave, Earth Grazing Meteorites have been known to enter Earth's atmosphere and break up into multiple pieces. A large one came in 1860, after the Carrington Event/Solar Storm in 1859. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth-grazing_fireball I studied Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 that struck Jupiter in

Re: [Vo]:OT - Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread Craig
On 02/04/2013 04:59 PM, Chuck Sites wrote: The bottom line is I just don't understand the thinking of the Global Warming Deniers, the contrarians. Global Warming is so blatantly obvious in the data, observations, theory and models that the only reason I can think that anyone would argue

RE: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread Jones Beene
FWIW - this interesting paper turned up just now in pursuit of other models of mirror hydrogen (there are many besides the one of Robert Foot, which is the most well-known). http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/0111381.pdf Stewart's view seems to be somewhat similar, but now we are presented with

Re: [Vo]:OT - Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread ChemE Stewart
Craig, I agree with your thinking. We are intrinsically connected to the sun thru sunspots, solar flares CME's as well as the solar wind and typical radiation . I think Earth is just a nodal battery in what is primarily a dark matter/entropic Matrix... On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Craig

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread ChemE Stewart
I think 95% of the universe's energy is collapsed and locked behind that small surface area of particles that I consider micro black hole balls of entropy. Which is very good for life else the tremendous heat and radiation would kill us. Interestingly, if you run the calculator at the following

Re: [Vo]:100% conversion of heat to electricity with thermophotovoltaics

2013-02-04 Thread mixent
In reply to John Berry's message of Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:12:21 +1300: Hi John, Ok, I think there is something that David and I myself are unclear on... Let's say you take IR radiation, so what is that? A high frequency EM wave in the Teraherz range, if you have a nano antenna and diodes suited

Re: [Vo]:OT - Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Craig's message of Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:37:26 -0500: Hi, [snip] Since there is no logical way that temperature changes could drive solar activity, then solar activity is driving the temperature to some degree. That's the only thing that makes sense. CO2 may be affecting it somewhat,

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 4 Feb 2013 16:31:30 -0500: Hi, [snip] So it is about the same as a 1.5 ton car whacking into 20 g songbird. Not likely to deflect the path much. But even a tiny effect will change the orbit significantly over time. That is why they are talking about

Re: [Vo]:100% conversion of heat to electricity with thermophotovoltaics

2013-02-04 Thread David Roberson
I like to use thought experiments to answer questions if possible since many times that can show the direction that processes take. It is a known fact that if you take a red hot ball of iron and place it into deep empty space that the heat will slowly radiate away in the form of black body

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread David Roberson
Even if they spin, the reflection from the painted side would generate a net force away from the sun's location. This assumes your paint is more reflective than the raw untreated surface. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent:

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:20:49 -0500: Hi, [snip] I doubt the Tunguska event was caused by anything other than normal matter, but on the other hand they have found no sign of the meteorite. .if it was a gravel meteorite then it may have broken up completely while

Re: [Vo]:OT Global Warming

2013-02-04 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote: ** Rich nations can afford. No, they can't. That's the point. Their populations are suffering and it's going to get much worse. Nor do developing nations operate in a vacuum as markets are now more tightly

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Mon, 4 Feb 2013 23:29:27 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] Even if they spin, the reflection from the painted side would generate a net force away from the sun's location. This assumes your paint is more reflective than the raw untreated surface. True, however I

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread David Roberson
Have you ever tried to paint an asteroid? :-) I would assume that a lot depends upon the magnitude of the force that you calculate is needed to force the thing away from the Earth. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon,

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:27 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Have you ever tried to paint an asteroid? :-) You could have a lot of fun time with rockets filled with paint and high explosives. Eric

Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully

2013-02-04 Thread David Roberson
Yeah, I think so. How do you volunteer for this mission? Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Feb 5, 2013 12:29 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Near miss - hopefully On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:27 PM, David Roberson

Re: [Vo]:Observational Evidence for Two Cosmological Predictions Made by Bit-String Physics

2013-02-04 Thread Rich Murray
bit string physics unifies cosmology and all particles since 1962, H. Pierre Noyes, SLAC 16p full text 2001.03.21 -- actual retrocausality in quantum reality -- unity of physics, math, infinite awareness: Rich Murray 2013.02.04 [ A. F. Parker Rhodes published first scheme in January 1962. ]