Re: [Vo]:Branly's Effect
Makes sense, definitely complimentary. For example, The finnish patent involved increasing tunneling via pyroelectric materials. Sent from my iPod On Dec 30, 2013, at 21:31, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: An
Re: [Vo]:Branly's Effect
http://www.google.com/patents/WO2013076378A2?cl=en [0033] Regarding the penetration of the Coulomb barrier around the atom nucleus, resonance of a wave function of a particle in a quantum well system has been described by David Bohm, Quantum theory, Prentice-Hall, New York 1951, which is incorporated herein by reference. Specifically, a wave is reflecting back and forth across the potential in a quantum well, a wave coming in the quantum well from outside enhances the wave inside the quantum well and a strong standing wave is built up inside the quantum well when the system is in resonance. Further, the waveform of a proton tunnels through the Coulomb barrier to the nucleus of an atom with certain probability. Near a resonance the waveform intensity of the proton is considerable in the quantum well and the probability of fusing proton with the nucleus is increased. The metastable state of the fused nucleus may have such a long lifetime in solid state structures that it can decay in other ways than by re-emission of the incident proton or by emission of gamma-ray photons, and energy is released over relatively long time also as lower energy photons (e.g. X-ray photons) or as phonons (lattice vibrations) to the surrounding solid lattice. [0034] When one or more electrons of an atom are excited to high principal quantum number, the excited electron is in the Rydberg state and the atom becomes a Rydberg atom. It is an electrical dipole with a positive core and a negative excited electron orbiting relatively far from the core. As a result, external electric and magnetic fields have a big effect on Rydberg atoms. Rydberg atoms interact with each other because of the electrical dipole properties and are capable of binding together. Rydberg atoms are produced e.g. by electron impact excitation, charge exchange excitation and optical excitation. Excitation energy below the ionization energy produces Rydberg states in atoms. These Rydberg atoms are electrically polarized, which pulls Rydberg atoms together forming clusters of Rydberg atoms. [0035] Until now elements that have been found to possess Rydberg states comprise H, Li, Na, K, Rb, Cs, N, Ni, Ag, Cu, Pd, Ti and Y. On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Tim blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Makes sense, definitely complimentary. For example, The finnish patent involved increasing tunneling via pyroelectric materials. Sent from my iPod On Dec 30, 2013, at 21:31, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: An
Re: [Vo]:Branly's Effect
the guys at yale are trying to give the hot fusion guys a nudge with: The results reported in this paper predict that Dþ tunneling through MeV Coulombic barriers could be induced by *sequences of low-energy electron impact ionization pulses* Look, yale is doing LENR! :D http://www.chem.yale.edu/~batista/molphys.pdf On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.google.com/patents/WO2013076378A2?cl=en [0033] Regarding the penetration of the Coulomb barrier around the atom nucleus, resonance of a wave function of a particle in a quantum well system has been described by David Bohm, Quantum theory, Prentice-Hall, New York 1951, which is incorporated herein by reference. Specifically, a wave is reflecting back and forth across the potential in a quantum well, a wave coming in the quantum well from outside enhances the wave inside the quantum well and a strong standing wave is built up inside the quantum well when the system is in resonance. Further, the waveform of a proton tunnels through the Coulomb barrier to the nucleus of an atom with certain probability. Near a resonance the waveform intensity of the proton is considerable in the quantum well and the probability of fusing proton with the nucleus is increased. The metastable state of the fused nucleus may have such a long lifetime in solid state structures that it can decay in other ways than by re-emission of the incident proton or by emission of gamma-ray photons, and energy is released over relatively long time also as lower energy photons (e.g. X-ray photons) or as phonons (lattice vibrations) to the surrounding solid lattice. [0034] When one or more electrons of an atom are excited to high principal quantum number, the excited electron is in the Rydberg state and the atom becomes a Rydberg atom. It is an electrical dipole with a positive core and a negative excited electron orbiting relatively far from the core. As a result, external electric and magnetic fields have a big effect on Rydberg atoms. Rydberg atoms interact with each other because of the electrical dipole properties and are capable of binding together. Rydberg atoms are produced e.g. by electron impact excitation, charge exchange excitation and optical excitation. Excitation energy below the ionization energy produces Rydberg states in atoms. These Rydberg atoms are electrically polarized, which pulls Rydberg atoms together forming clusters of Rydberg atoms. [0035] Until now elements that have been found to possess Rydberg states comprise H, Li, Na, K, Rb, Cs, N, Ni, Ag, Cu, Pd, Ti and Y. On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Tim blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Makes sense, definitely complimentary. For example, The finnish patent involved increasing tunneling via pyroelectric materials. Sent from my iPod On Dec 30, 2013, at 21:31, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: An
Re: [Vo]:RE: More on the Kalman paper
Why not two dimensions? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle The universe is just a gigantic turing machine: https://who.rocq.inria.fr/Gilles.Dowek/Publi/universality2d.pdf On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Yes, if 4 don't work, try 5. If 5 fail, try 50. As they say, with enough variables, all data can be fit. It never occurs to these people that their basic model may be wrong. They just keep adding variables and complexity until all the points fall on a line. Ed Storms On Dec 22, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Axil Axil wrote: There is a movement in quantum physics that I am partial to, that movement involves the 5th dimension. Some big names in physics think that the 5th dimension holds the path to new and better explanations involving the subatomic world. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/13070896/#.UrcvUbmA2AI “SEATTLE - The cosmos would make perfect sense … if it turns out we're living in a 10- or 11-dimensional realm where gravity is bubbling off a different plane entirely. At least that's what's emerging as the hottest concept on the frontier of physics.” The 5th dimension makes sense to me as a hidden dimension that provides communication between subatomic particles and supports the infrastructure of gravity. http://phys.org/news/2013-12-creation-entanglement-simultaneously-wormhole.html Creation of entanglement simultaneously gives rise to a wormhole The quarks are connected by a wormhole that exists in the 5th dimension where space and time does not exist. The 5th diminution is where wormholes exist, and where space and time does not. Those who are interested in LENR might want to look beyond the billiard ball model of the universe into waves and strings of light and their tips (topological defects). We can see this multi-dimensional principle in operation in a two dimensional allegorical world on the surface of a swimming pool where the counter rotating solitons are connected in a higher third dimension within the depths of water in the pool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=909o_kbCdFg Quarks are localized and confined vortexes (aka solitons) of energy that exist in the Higgs field that do not dissipate because of the agency of the superfuildic superconductivity of the Higgs field. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ederft9dkag Baths and Quarks: Solitons explained Entanglement exists and is mediated in the 5th dimension and entanglement stores energy when the quarks are formed or when the quarks are moved apart. The 5th dimension is where the connective strong force operates. When a subatomic particle forms, its isospin is rooted deep in the 5th dimension with just its vortex tip projecting into our 4 dimensional world. Electrons are just the tips of broken light strings whose spin is imbedded into the 5th dimension. A cooper pair of protons or electrons is connected by an energy channel that projects into the 5th dimension. Most of the energy that makes up matter is stored in the 5th dimension. Since all quarks are entangled, this entangled 5th dimension is where dark energy lives and gravity operates. Since the strong magnetic fields produced by LENR can destroy the superconductivity that the quarks exist in, the connective energy between the quarks is retrieved from the 5th dimension and made real again to reappear and reenter back into our world. LENR is a way to manipulate the quantum world of the 5th dimension. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Tampe: I couldn't agree more, it's very frustrating to learn QM. You tend to get a lot of powerful mathematical constructs but really no good mental model how it all works. Oh my. This is nonsensical to the max. No one is asking you to learn the deepest secrets of QM. An adequate mental model is available with zero math - but - it is not the same logic as one finds in common sense. How can one NOT have a mental model for quantum tunneling after all these years? In fact QM is more a process of ridding oneself of the wrong mental model than learning a new one. One can mentally accept time reversal, for instance, without leaning the intricacies of CPT symmetry and Kramer's theorem. No good mental model and ignoring what is real are both complete cop-outs. I agree that Quantum tunneling is what may be behind this, and a few Å is enough for it to start do it's work, But the validity of calculation of the expansion with a virtual particle that temporally breaks the momentum conservation for quite some distance, makes me vary and want to wait for the paper to be moderated by experts in the field. I could be wrong here but that's my current intuition, that you need much smaller distances for the expansion to be valid. Anyhow if one can show that the tunneling is
Re: [Vo]:What if we live in a simulated reality?
http://metaversetribune.com/2011/08/22/rosedale-makes-case-for-holographic-universe/ Rosedale was the founder of SecondLife. I frequently worked with the physics engine in SL and I can confirm the marble / cup QM tunneling analogy. Some choice quotes: - “Basically if you leave a marble in a cup in Second Life, and you leave all night and you come back, what happens? The marble is gone.” - If there was a hidden dimension [Holographic Principle - universe as 2 dimensions] wrapped around our universe that contained all the data for the atoms in our world, quantum entanglement starts to make more sense. - The general agreement in quantum mechanics is that subatomic particles like photons behave like waves until looked at by a conscious observer .. Second Life, too, does not render until looked at by a conscious observer, but the data always remains in that hidden dimension outside the 3D virtual space. Just something to think about. On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/geekquinox/weird-science-weekly-may-living-holographic-projection-010534111.html Cool video - the idea that reality is just a projected hologram from a 2 dimensional surface at the boundaries of space. On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.comwrote: It is also possible the universe is just a dream, or a shared hallucination. Maybe all our memories are manufactured and we have not been on this earth and list for x number of years, we may only have implanted memories and started 'fresh' this morning. Many far out and improbable things can be argued as possible, this sim argument is no different. I am not going to take any of these ideas seriously since none of them agree with the incredible detail and broadness of the world. It only distracts from understanding the world we are in. Now we could ask if consciousness comes from dis dimension, at least we perceive consciousness to exist. As far as existential questions go that one makes sense. John On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Eric Walker Of course, the gamers are risking exposure now that A.I. is becoming closer to reality. A.I. may have developed a life (reality) of its own which clears up everything, and possibly within a few decades. I think whether the universe is a simulation is epistemologically inaccessible, unless things were to start to get really weird. The weirdness could easily be that there is both a “real” universe and many ongoing simulations, and especially simulations within simulations. Even if you find the “tell” at one level, you may only advance to the next Sim ! Whether the individual (us, for instance) can ever figure out multiple layering depends on many factors but could easily be impossible, as you say - since any the Sim can have a automatic mechanism for the untimely “demise” of a player who is digging too deep. Think Philip K. Dick. OTOH a few Sims, and maybe our own, could be structured as some kind of test the aim of which is to see how long it takes the subjects of the experiment (i.e. “the meat”) to figure out that they are locked into a Sim. The “untimely demise” mechanism of a Sim is one reason why a large group effort would be preferable :-) At least the “tell” would then be the improbability of the disaster – such as that most of the Vortex News Group did not survive Thanksgiving due… due to… err… tainted turkey? Remember: the red pill is in the cranberries! Actually the Matrix films are an example of early house-of-mirrors layering since any movie is already a Sim on one level.
Re: [Vo]:from Rossi's blog -- destructive tests -- 1MW in 10 secs
if Rossi use the good word and the mouse is a negative feedback (beside establishing a working point temperature), it is a very good news. Until recently I felt concerned that LENR have positive sensitivity with heat, unlike fission reactor in the stable zone. The way it can have negative feedback may be smart... maybe it is a question of hydride loading and unloading. maybe is it not really negative by 90degree phase shift, because LENR may (?) be caused not by temperature or loading, but by temperature variation and loading variation.. if the cat is also 90degree shifting, the you have simply a negative transform function... it can even be more complex with heat variation inducing loading variation, and inducing power... another kind of solution could be that the negative feed back, of the phase shift is done at specific time-scale. I suspect that Defkalion use such time-scale transfer function variety... imagine a system which is slowly supercritical at short term, and subcritical at medium term... you just can just cause pulse that fade away... it looks like what defkalion shows This is only speculation, just to show that thing can be varied... as many people said here, the question of stability and control is not easy, but there are room for engineers ingenuity. after all the real secret of of fission reactor is the negative feed back between temperature and neutron capture. 2013/12/31 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com Could it be that Rossi is using words in the wrong way to describe his invention as follows: It might be that Rossi is meaning that when the temperature of the Cat raises, the mouse is turned off. When the temperature of the cat lowers, the Mouse is turned on. Otherwise. the temperature of the Cat raises when the Mouse is turned off If these words are being used correctly, then the Mouse is a negative feedback device that dampens the Cat like a nuclear control rod. The Cat is therefore supercritical. lowers when the Mouse is turned on is also consistent with a dampening mechanism. On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:13:46 AM The mouse is nothing more than a ceramic canister within his SS tube full of (most probably) MgH and Ni acting as a catalyst to brake the released H2 to atomic from its solid state MgH at high temperatures. If H or Mg are in contact with air or moister then a Lungmuir toarch reaction (reaching 3400C) and/or a violent reaction of Mg with H20 give such explosing results lasting for some seconds. Such are not desirable results but accidents due to poor controllability. - - - You might be right on that one : Andrea Rossi December 29th, 2013 at 6:10 PM Hank Mills: ... 4- the temperature of the Cat raises when the Mouse is turned off, lowers when the Mouse is turned on
Re: [Vo]:from Rossi's blog -- destructive tests -- 1MW in 10 secs
If the mouse achieves some form of active cooling then his recent description would make sense. We have discussed this as a possible means of achieving control of a thermal positive feedback system, but so far Rossi has not clearly come out with a hint, with the exception of that recent statement. It would likely be possible to achieve a much larger net power density and COP if the temperature were controlled in this manner, but then thermal run away would always be close at hand. My belief is that he is still working with external heat input and rapid turn off of that source for control. This type of system would be easier to build and is constructed in the manner to which he has ample experience. Future models of his design may well use some form of active cooling for control, but I suspect that Rossi will want to introduce these techniques with plenty of caution. He should concentrate upon rapid introduction of his devices into the marketplace. After all, the eventual payoff will come when sells and deployment occurs, meanwhile competition is nipping at his heals. Dave -Original Message- From: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com To: Vortex List vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 31, 2013 5:53 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:from Rossi's blog -- destructive tests -- 1MW in 10 secs if Rossi use the good word and the mouse is a negative feedback (beside establishing a working point temperature), it is a very good news. Until recently I felt concerned that LENR have positive sensitivity with heat, unlike fission reactor in the stable zone. The way it can have negative feedback may be smart... maybe it is a question of hydride loading and unloading. maybe is it not really negative by 90degree phase shift, because LENR may (?) be caused not by temperature or loading, but by temperature variation and loading variation.. if the cat is also 90degree shifting, the you have simply a negative transform function... it can even be more complex with heat variation inducing loading variation, and inducing power... another kind of solution could be that the negative feed back, of the phase shift is done at specific time-scale. I suspect that Defkalion use such time-scale transfer function variety... imagine a system which is slowly supercritical at short term, and subcritical at medium term... you just can just cause pulse that fade away... it looks like what defkalion shows This is only speculation, just to show that thing can be varied... as many people said here, the question of stability and control is not easy, but there are room for engineers ingenuity. after all the real secret of of fission reactor is the negative feed back between temperature and neutron capture. 2013/12/31 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com Could it be that Rossi is using words in the wrong way to describe his invention as follows: It might be that Rossi is meaning that when the temperature of the Cat raises, the mouse is turned off. When the temperature of the cat lowers, the Mouse is turned on. Otherwise. the temperature of the Cat raises when the Mouse is turned off If these words are being used correctly, then the Mouse is a negative feedback device that dampens the Cat like a nuclear control rod. The Cat is therefore supercritical. lowers when the Mouse is turned on is also consistent with a dampening mechanism. On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:13:46 AM The mouse is nothing more than a ceramic canister within his SS tube full of (most probably) MgH and Ni acting as a catalyst to brake the released H2 to atomic from its solid state MgH at high temperatures. If H or Mg are in contact with air or moister then a Lungmuir toarch reaction (reaching 3400C) and/or a violent reaction of Mg with H20 give such explosing results lasting for some seconds. Such are not desirable results but accidents due to poor controllability. - - - You might be right on that one : Andrea Rossi December 29th, 2013 at 6:10 PM Hank Mills: ... 4- the temperature of the Cat raises when the Mouse is turned off, lowers when the Mouse is turned on
[Vo]:The Kibble boson
More on the Kibble boson. There was a feeble attempt at New Year's humor (yesterday) in introducing a hypothetical transitory particle for gain in LENR, which can be called a Kibble boson, named after Tom Kibble, who was a co-discoverer of the particle or field which has been so much in the News of late - and since Peter Higgs himself gets wy too much credit and his 6 pals get almost none. I guess it's a matter of convenience in that naming, but it's not fair. However, due to the response of private email to the prior post, this detail on how the precise mass of 126-126 GeV can be seen as a reality in low energy experiments, the endeavor has now turned into a more serious pursuit. This is especially relevant in the context of the special long-lived unstable isotopes of barium/cesium/xenon etc. at this mass level - several of which can give off (in decay) what is about the maximum amount of energy that could go undetected in a reactor (no gamma, no neutron and the isotope transmutes back and forth between the various hosts). It is a nice fit and this coincidence of having a broad area of mass-energy with many identities points the way towards some obvious applications which derive from a base-level field influence which is now becoming understandable. The Kibble boson could be most apparent as a field influence, and perhaps parts of its influence was formerly identified with the zero point field. Which is to say, given the formalism, that the Kibble is probably related to a field in five-dimensions - which does not shows up in 3-space as a unique influence, but does show up in a range of mass-energy equivalence in condensed matter. IOW - It is becoming predictable and useful. The kibble field would influence matter when the mass of an elemental nucleus within its spectrum is resonantly stimulated - and the mass of 134-barium is apparently identical to the Kibble, as is 134-xenon and both are composite bosons. Lo and behold ... look closely at what happens with these related isotopes in certain circumstances and we find the rare and fabulous 135m-barium isotope. Perhaps no other isotope is more desired for weapons RD than those which come with an m. But the Pentagon has dibs on it, so we will move on. First of all, notice that an isotope within a mass range of 134-135 amu (125-126 GeV) can be found in many different elements (!!!) depending on the lifetime cutoff: barium, xenon, cesium, iodine, lanthanum and tellurium. All of these have been seen in LENR experiments. That range of cross-identify for one specific level of mass-energy is somewhat unique in the periodic table, but that anomalous stability cannot yet be pinned to the Kibble (Higgs) field in a proven way ... (good chance of that happening however.) Anyway the main purpose of this post is say that YES - we may indeed find that a relic of the Kibble field plays a strong role in LENR in 2014, but all frivolity aside - let's NOT use the old name. To the degree that we will be the innovators who describe this applications for this field, we owe no duty to mainstream fizzix- to keep their old name ... until and unless they first come around with the mea culpa and recognize the reality of LENR and their 25 years of semi-official dishonesty. Jones attachment: winmail.dat
[Vo]:Fwd: patent by dennis cravens, interesting...
fall on that patent application. dunno if it was discussed here https://www.google.com/patents/US8485791 it does not patent LENR but a way to make hydrogen fuels move inside a metal and be constrained... creative I think, but I'm not expert.
[Vo]:Re: patent by dennis cravens, interesting...
It seems that patent is granted? https://www.google.com/patents/US8485791 am I right? 2013/12/31 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com fall on that patent application. dunno if it was discussed here https://www.google.com/patents/US8485791 it does not patent LENR but a way to make hydrogen fuels move inside a metal and be constrained... creative I think, but I'm not expert.
RE: [Vo]:Re: patent by dennis cravens, interesting...
Correct, a US patent was granted in 2013. -mark From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alain Sepeda Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 10:01 AM To: Vortex List Subject: [Vo]:Re: patent by dennis cravens, interesting... It seems that patent is granted? https://www.google.com/patents/US8485791 https://www.google.com/patents/US8485791 am I right? 2013/12/31 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com fall on that patent application. dunno if it was discussed here https://www.google.com/patents/US8485791 it does not patent LENR but a way to make hydrogen fuels move inside a metal and be constrained... creative I think, but I'm not expert.
Re: [Vo]:The Kibble boson
Mouse, cat, dogs . . . quite the e-menagerie.
Re: [Vo]:Branly's Effect
Blaze and Tim, Excellent references - both the paper and the patent. I also wonder whether the Branly Effect occurs in nanoparticle colloids or in macro-sized metal wires with a complex fractal crystalline structure, or other nano-sized domain structure. If so, LENR energy peaks could correlate with transient current/resistance fluctuations. It could explain the extreme sensitivity of LENR to material preparation. -- Lou Pagnucco Blaze and Tim wrote: the guys at yale are trying to give the hot fusion guys a nudge with: The results reported in this paper predict that Dþ tunneling through MeV Coulombic barriers could be induced by *sequences of low-energy electron impact ionization pulses* Look, yale is doing LENR! :D http://www.chem.yale.edu/~batista/molphys.pdf On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.google.com/patents/WO2013076378A2?cl=en [0033] Regarding the penetration of the Coulomb barrier around the atom nucleus, resonance of a wave function of a particle in a quantum well [...]
[Vo]:Book: The Wright Brothers and the Invention of the Airplane
T. C. Crouch and P. L. Jakab, *The Wright Brothers and the Invention of the Airplane*, published by the Smithsonian and National Geographic, 2003. This is good short introduction to the Wright brothers. It has some of the text from Crouch's book *The Bishop's Boys* plus a large number of photographs, as you would expect from the National Geographic. Many of the photos were taken by the Wrights themselves. They were excellent photographers. Like *The Bishop's Boys*, this book describes both their strengths and weaknesses, making them humans rather than cultural icons. It describes the way they dithered between 1905 and 1908. They nearly lost their advantage and did not get credit for their work. There is a haunting photo on p. 201, showing Orville and five young men. The caption says: 1910: To generate interest and business, the Wrights formed the Wright Flyer's Exhibition Team, shown here with Orville, who taught them to fly. They flew hundreds of exhibition flights, in spite of dangers: five of the original nine died in crashes of Wright airplanes. The role of happenstance in discovery is described on p. 15: Why Wilbur and Orville? How did these two modest small businessmen, working essentially alone, with little formal scientific or technical training, solve a complex and demanding problem that had defied better-known experimenters for centuries? It is perhaps one of the most interesting and important questions that can be asked regarding the invention of the airplane, and the most challenging to answer. Even the Wrights found it difficult to fully explain. Their diaries, letters, notebooks, and photographs revealed much of what they had done, and when. They were far less certain why they had done it, or how they had succeeded where so many others had failed. Wilbur was quick to dismiss the suggestion of his friend and correspondent Octave Chanute, a civil engineer and aeronautical experimenter, that raw genius might be the only explanation. *Do you not insist too strongly upon the single point of mental ability? To me it seems that a thousand other factors, each rather insignificant in itself, in the aggregate influence the event ten times more than mere mental ability or inventiveness If the wheels of time could be turned back six years, it is not at all probable that we would do again what we have done It was due to peculiar combinations of circumstances which might never occur again. * - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Book: The Wright Brothers and the Invention of the Airplane
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Wilbur was quick to dismiss the suggestion of his friend and correspondent Octave Chanute, a civil engineer and aeronautical experimenter, that raw genius might be the only explanation. *Do you not insist too strongly upon the single point of mental ability? To me it seems that a thousand other factors, each rather insignificant in itself, in the aggregate influence the event ten times more than mere mental ability or inventiveness If the wheels of time could be turned back six years, it is not at all probable that we would do again what we have done It was due to peculiar combinations of circumstances which might never occur again.* Human intuition is a remarkable trait. Nikola Tesla attributed many of his inventions to the ability to see the workings of the machine in his mind's eye. In the AC motor, his biography describes visualizing the fields chasing each other between the stator and the rotor. I would not be surprised if the Wrights saw the laminar air flows between the upper and lower surfaces of the wing in order to visualize lift. HG Wells wrote of many things which became true. Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek and follow on movies and series have predicted things which have come and are yet to come. Whether foresight or a guide to inventive paths, intuition is a remarkable trait. Happy New Year, Vorts!
Re: [Vo]:Book: The Wright Brothers and the Invention of the Airplane
The Wrights depended on intuition when they were learning to fly by gliding at Kitty Hawk. They were superb sportsmen and bicycle riders. They tended to take chances, riding bicycles at night at high speed. Later in life, Orville racked up many speeding tickets in a high performance automobile. Typical pilot behavior. But they did not depend on intuition in the design phase. They depended on data. Testing, testing and more testing with the wind tunnel. Page after page and book after book of engineering equations. They marked the spot of every piece of furniture in the room, and the spot where they stood, while operating the wind tunnel, because they found significant differences in the 3 decimal place when they moved a table or stood somewhere else. Chanute asked them once about the wind resistance of the pilot's body. They responded with several paragraphs of precise calculations of the wind resistance of the human head and prone body of a pilot (since they flew lying down in the early flights). They had a low tolerance for imprecision someone said. Crouch wrote: Wilbur was a man who established a goal with care, then never lost sight of it. He was the perfect engineer – isolating a basic problem, defining it in the most precise terms, and identifying the missing bits of information that would enable him to solve it. Other students of the subject lost themselves in a welter of confusing details; they were lured into extraneous, if fascinating, blind alleys that led away from the basic problem. Not Wilbur. He had the capacity to recognize and the dogged determination required to cut straight to the heart of any matter. (p. 165) I wish more cold fusion researchers had these qualities. Although they were fact-based engineers, they had a lyrical side to their personalities. I think it was Orville many years later who was asked: What was the most wonderful thing about inventing the airplane? What was the moment they gave you the most pleasure? The success of the first flight? The public adulation? He said, as I recall, the most wonderful thing was thinking about flying, and dreaming about what it would be like, before we did it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Book: The Wright Brothers and the Invention of the Airplane
Keeping in mind that the Wright Brothers sired no children: “The incursions of barbaric pastoralists seem to do civilizations less harm in the long run than one might expect. Indeed, two dark ages and renaissances in Europe suggest a recurring pattern in which a renaissance follows an incursion by about 800 years. It may even be suggested that certain genes or traditions of pastoralists revitalize the conquered people with an ingredient of progress which tends to die out in a large panmictic population for the reasons already discussed. I have in mind altruism itself, or the part of the altruism which is perhaps better described as self-sacrificial daring. By the time of the renaissance it may be that the mixing of genes and cultures (or of cultures alone if these are the only vehicles, which I doubt) has continued long enough to bring the old mercantile thoughtfulness and the infused daring into conjunction in a few individuals who then find courage for all kinds of inventive innovation against the resistance of established thought and practice. Often, however, the cost in fitness of such altruism and sublimated pugnacity to the individuals concerned is by no means metaphorical, and the benefits to fitness, such as they are, go to a mass of individuals whose genetic correlation with the innovator must be slight indeed. Thus civilization probably slowly reduces its altruism of all kinds, including the kinds needed for cultural creativity (see also Eshel 1972).” Innate Social Aptitudes of Man: An Approach from Evolutionary Genetics by W. D. Hamilton Any civilization led by people who deny their responsibility for the evolutionary effects of their policies is unworthy of the name civilization. On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: The Wrights depended on intuition when they were learning to fly by gliding at Kitty Hawk. They were superb sportsmen and bicycle riders. They tended to take chances, riding bicycles at night at high speed. Later in life, Orville racked up many speeding tickets in a high performance automobile. Typical pilot behavior. But they did not depend on intuition in the design phase. They depended on data. Testing, testing and more testing with the wind tunnel. Page after page and book after book of engineering equations. They marked the spot of every piece of furniture in the room, and the spot where they stood, while operating the wind tunnel, because they found significant differences in the 3 decimal place when they moved a table or stood somewhere else. Chanute asked them once about the wind resistance of the pilot's body. They responded with several paragraphs of precise calculations of the wind resistance of the human head and prone body of a pilot (since they flew lying down in the early flights). They had a low tolerance for imprecision someone said. Crouch wrote: Wilbur was a man who established a goal with care, then never lost sight of it. He was the perfect engineer – isolating a basic problem, defining it in the most precise terms, and identifying the missing bits of information that would enable him to solve it. Other students of the subject lost themselves in a welter of confusing details; they were lured into extraneous, if fascinating, blind alleys that led away from the basic problem. Not Wilbur. He had the capacity to recognize and the dogged determination required to cut straight to the heart of any matter. (p. 165) I wish more cold fusion researchers had these qualities. Although they were fact-based engineers, they had a lyrical side to their personalities. I think it was Orville many years later who was asked: What was the most wonderful thing about inventing the airplane? What was the moment they gave you the most pleasure? The success of the first flight? The public adulation? He said, as I recall, the most wonderful thing was thinking about flying, and dreaming about what it would be like, before we did it. - Jed
[Vo]:Tickle The Dragon
I constructed a new computer model of the ECAT that allows me to modify the variables quickly and made some interesting observations. If the internal temperature of the device reaches the thermal run away level, then it is on its way toward self destruction as Rossi has mentioned on several occasions. It is speculated that he could still reverse the action if some form of active cooling is incorporated within his design to pull it back from the brink. My latest model suggests that the amount of deviation away from the thermal run away temperature determines how much cooling is required to salvage the system. The other side of the equation is also valid. If we assume that the drive is removed at the optimum time, which is when the internal temperature is close to but slightly below the run away point, then the device will immediately begin to cool off and head toward room temperature. This behavior is a typical positive feedback loop where the change in direction reinforces itself and the action gains momentum with time. The longer you wait before you correct the direction, the harder the task becomes. With this in mind, I toyed with the new model to see if it might be possible to use this behavior to our advantage. The model suggests that this is the case and that the net COP of the device can be quite large if it is possible to keep the control input power pulses to low values. For this to operate it is necessary for Rossi to run the ECAT at very near the thermal run away trip point. The closer, the better and this reminds me of tickling a dragon. You better be careful or it might get angry and you know the consequences. I initiated the output power by supplying a large power pulse which is required to push the operation into the negative resistance region so that the positive feedback takes over and the modeled temperature begins to climb toward the thermal run away level. The temperature climb takes place while the large drive level is active so that control is available. Once close operation to the trip point is achieved, the power input is rapidly removed. This removal of input power is the control method which causes the positive feedback system to reverse direction and begin its path toward cooling to room temperature. Then, my new test control concept is put into action. I monitor the internal feedback power which falls rapidly as the device cools even though the temperature and output power falls quite a bit less due to the polynomial power effect. The reversal can be achieved by supplying power greater than the difference between the self sustaining power and the internally generated power. The actual power required approaches zero if the temperature can be kept at a tiny amount below the thermal runaway temperature. If active cooling is available, then both sides of the trip point could be used. The model demonstrates a very large COP, but of course changes in the environment such as the temperature of the coolant and its flow rate as well as many other factors must be considered to determine a safe operation temperature band. And, since the ECAT is not available to test it is not possible to establish real time constants for accurate modeling. With these constraints I have constructed a very general model that can be used to generate concepts and to see how some of the variables interact. I have no way to obtain delay information at this time and of course, that will complicate the performance greatly if excessive. I want to mention that the recent statements that Rossi has made on his blog strongly suggest that the ECAT operates in a manner that is consistent with my model. It is interesting that I can immediately place his numbers into my model in a location that makes sense. The latest discussion of the mouse having a reverse relationship to the main cat does seem out of line unless he is using words to obscure the meaning. Dave
Re: [Vo]:The Kibble boson
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Mouse, cat, dogs . . . quite the e-menagerie. They're called cates and doges these days [1,2]. (Doge is probably pronounced dohj, although this is a point that is in dispute.) These names refer to a meme, a series of silly images that have been modified over and over and that build upon one another as part of an ongoing inside joke. The young kids trade in them in the same spirit that you would trade baseball cards in the past. The images are often too silly even to be funny, but there seems to be in endless supply of them. Eric [1] http://24.media.tumblr.com/d88b9a6407424b536a74e59b5be459b6/tumblr_mwiwh4WjNE1sttl5mo1_500.jpg [2] https://twitter.com/DogeTheDog/status/408766121882300416
Re: [Vo]:Book: The Wright Brothers and the Invention of the Airplane
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: ... They flew hundreds of exhibition flights, in spite of dangers: five of the original nine died in crashes of Wright airplanes. Whoever they were, they were did not let sentiment get in the way of what they were trying to do as they sent those boys off to their deaths. Eric
Re: [Vo]:The Kibble boson
And a virtual currency like bitcoin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.comwrote: Mouse, cat, dogs . . . quite the e-menagerie. They're called cates and doges these days [1,2]. (Doge is probably pronounced dohj, although this is a point that is in dispute.) These names refer to a meme, a series of silly images that have been modified over and over and that build upon one another as part of an ongoing inside joke. The young kids trade in them in the same spirit that you would trade baseball cards in the past. The images are often too silly even to be funny, but there seems to be in endless supply of them. Eric [1] http://24.media.tumblr.com/d88b9a6407424b536a74e59b5be459b6/tumblr_mwiwh4WjNE1sttl5mo1_500.jpg [2] https://twitter.com/DogeTheDog/status/408766121882300416
RE: [Vo]:Tickle The Dragon
Dave, It's New Year's eve. Go have a drink and give the grey-matter a break!!! J Happy New Year, -mark From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:13 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Tickle The Dragon I constructed a new computer model of the ECAT that allows me to modify the variables quickly and made some interesting observations. If the internal temperature of the device reaches the thermal run away level, then it is on its way toward self destruction as Rossi has mentioned on several occasions. It is speculated that he could still reverse the action if some form of active cooling is incorporated within his design to pull it back from the brink. My latest model suggests that the amount of deviation away from the thermal run away temperature determines how much cooling is required to salvage the system. The other side of the equation is also valid. If we assume that the drive is removed at the optimum time, which is when the internal temperature is close to but slightly below the run away point, then the device will immediately begin to cool off and head toward room temperature. This behavior is a typical positive feedback loop where the change in direction reinforces itself and the action gains momentum with time. The longer you wait before you correct the direction, the harder the task becomes. With this in mind, I toyed with the new model to see if it might be possible to use this behavior to our advantage. The model suggests that this is the case and that the net COP of the device can be quite large if it is possible to keep the control input power pulses to low values. For this to operate it is necessary for Rossi to run the ECAT at very near the thermal run away trip point. The closer, the better and this reminds me of tickling a dragon. You better be careful or it might get angry and you know the consequences. I initiated the output power by supplying a large power pulse which is required to push the operation into the negative resistance region so that the positive feedback takes over and the modeled temperature begins to climb toward the thermal run away level. The temperature climb takes place while the large drive level is active so that control is available. Once close operation to the trip point is achieved, the power input is rapidly removed. This removal of input power is the control method which causes the positive feedback system to reverse direction and begin its path toward cooling to room temperature. Then, my new test control concept is put into action. I monitor the internal feedback power which falls rapidly as the device cools even though the temperature and output power falls quite a bit less due to the polynomial power effect. The reversal can be achieved by supplying power greater than the difference between the self sustaining power and the internally generated power. The actual power required approaches zero if the temperature can be kept at a tiny amount below the thermal runaway temperature. If active cooling is available, then both sides of the trip point could be used. The model demonstrates a very large COP, but of course changes in the environment such as the temperature of the coolant and its flow rate as well as many other factors must be considered to determine a safe operation temperature band. And, since the ECAT is not available to test it is not possible to establish real time constants for accurate modeling. With these constraints I have constructed a very general model that can be used to generate concepts and to see how some of the variables interact. I have no way to obtain delay information at this time and of course, that will complicate the performance greatly if excessive. I want to mention that the recent statements that Rossi has made on his blog strongly suggest that the ECAT operates in a manner that is consistent with my model. It is interesting that I can immediately place his numbers into my model in a location that makes sense. The latest discussion of the mouse having a reverse relationship to the main cat does seem out of line unless he is using words to obscure the meaning. Dave
Re: [Vo]:Tickle The Dragon
God bless Dick Clark! On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 12:45 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: Dave, It’s New Year’s eve… Go have a drink and give the grey-matter a break!!! J Happy New Year, -mark *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:13 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* [Vo]:Tickle The Dragon I constructed a new computer model of the ECAT that allows me to modify the variables quickly and made some interesting observations. If the internal temperature of the device reaches the thermal run away level, then it is on its way toward self destruction as Rossi has mentioned on several occasions. It is speculated that he could still reverse the action if some form of active cooling is incorporated within his design to pull it back from the brink. My latest model suggests that the amount of deviation away from the thermal run away temperature determines how much cooling is required to salvage the system. The other side of the equation is also valid. If we assume that the drive is removed at the optimum time, which is when the internal temperature is close to but slightly below the run away point, then the device will immediately begin to cool off and head toward room temperature. This behavior is a typical positive feedback loop where the change in direction reinforces itself and the action gains momentum with time. The longer you wait before you correct the direction, the harder the task becomes. With this in mind, I toyed with the new model to see if it might be possible to use this behavior to our advantage. The model suggests that this is the case and that the net COP of the device can be quite large if it is possible to keep the control input power pulses to low values. For this to operate it is necessary for Rossi to run the ECAT at very near the thermal run away trip point. The closer, the better and this reminds me of tickling a dragon. You better be careful or it might get angry and you know the consequences. I initiated the output power by supplying a large power pulse which is required to push the operation into the negative resistance region so that the positive feedback takes over and the modeled temperature begins to climb toward the thermal run away level. The temperature climb takes place while the large drive level is active so that control is available. Once close operation to the trip point is achieved, the power input is rapidly removed. This removal of input power is the control method which causes the positive feedback system to reverse direction and begin its path toward cooling to room temperature. Then, my new test control concept is put into action. I monitor the internal feedback power which falls rapidly as the device cools even though the temperature and output power falls quite a bit less due to the polynomial power effect. The reversal can be achieved by supplying power greater than the difference between the self sustaining power and the internally generated power. The actual power required approaches zero if the temperature can be kept at a tiny amount below the thermal runaway temperature. If active cooling is available, then both sides of the trip point could be used. The model demonstrates a very large COP, but of course changes in the environment such as the temperature of the coolant and its flow rate as well as many other factors must be considered to determine a safe operation temperature band. And, since the ECAT is not available to test it is not possible to establish real time constants for accurate modeling. With these constraints I have constructed a very general model that can be used to generate concepts and to see how some of the variables interact. I have no way to obtain delay information at this time and of course, that will complicate the performance greatly if excessive. I want to mention that the recent statements that Rossi has made on his blog strongly suggest that the ECAT operates in a manner that is consistent with my model. It is interesting that I can immediately place his numbers into my model in a location that makes sense. The latest discussion of the mouse having a reverse relationship to the main cat does seem out of line unless he is using words to obscure the meaning. Dave
